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***Official 2018 St. Louis Cardinals Thread*** -- Matheny gone (2 Viewers)

Going to Roger Dean Stadium down the block today for the Spring Trainging opener for Cardinals-Marlins

 
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Holliday playing 1B today.  All for it - let's see what he learned over the winter.  
Gyorko playing 2B - Cards acquired him to play some 2B and 3B against lefties, seems like the team should be better if Wong and Carp can get a little more rest during the season.

Carlos Peguero getting a look in LF.  He's in spring training on a minor-league deal.  Lefty bat with a bunch of AAA HRs who hasn't done much besides strike out in the show.  IIRC, he led the Royals organization in HRs two years ago but they didn't bring him up because he didn't make enough contact.  

 
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
It's not May yet, though
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That was my first thought when I read the news.

Hope Brandon Moss can play left field.  Otherwise there's gonna be a lot of Grichuk-Pham-Piscotty outfield nights, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that.

####, if this makes me think "Trading Jon Jay was a mistake", I'm going to be 80% as angry as I get when I see Broxton up and throwing in the bullpen.

 
The first home game against the Cubs should be "Jorts And Shirseys Night", where all fans in Jorts and Shirseys get 2-for-1 Bud Lights as long as they two-fist them back at their seats.  

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
The first home game against the Cubs should be "Jorts And Shirseys Night", where all fans in Jorts and Shirseys get 2-for-1 Bud Lights as long as they two-fist them back at their seats.  
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I'll be there in my Ankiel shirsey (24, not 66) and a pair of whitewashed homemade cutoffs screaming vulgarities at John Lackey because of his punchable face.  :hifive:  

 
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RnR said:
I'll be there in my Ankiel shirsey (24, not 66) and a pair of whitewashed homemade cutoffs screaming vulgarities at John Lackey because of his punchable face.  :hifive:  
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That's a high standard.  The homemade cutoffs take it up a notch.  

I'll have to check if my Edmonds 15 is still wearable.  I usually wear a red unnumbered bird-on-bat batting practice jersey to games, but I may have to reload on a new Shirsey honoring one of the new outfielders.  Or a Wainwright 50.  

You've got the Lackey shtick covered, so I'll get an outfield seat and read mean Tweets about Hayward at the top of my lungs.   

ETA:
#BFIB

 
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ffldrew said:
Peralta out with thumb injury 2-3 months
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Cardinals: General Manager John Mozeliak said SS Jhonny Peralta will return to St. Louis for a second opinion on what the team believes is a torn ligament in his left thumb. Peralta, who averaged 156 games during his first two seasons with the Cards, could miss the first two months of the season. ...

:wall: :wall: :wall:

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
That was my first thought when I read the news.

Hope Brandon Moss can play left field.  Otherwise there's gonna be a lot of Grichuk-Pham-Piscotty outfield nights, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that.

####, if this makes me think "Trading Jon Jay was a mistake", I'm going to be 80% as angry as I get when I see Broxton up and throwing in the bullpen.
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:lmao:

How do you feel about

3B Carp

2B Wong

LF Piscotty

1B Holliday

RF Grichuk

C Molina

SS Diaz

CF Pham

 
If the AJC is to be believed, it would take a starting SS, #2 hitter, pitching prospect, and a gallon of Adam Wainwright's semen.

 
RnR said:
What's Khalil Greene up to these days?
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Occupato

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Bruce Dickinson said:
The Braves should have at least a quart of Waino semen back from before they traded him to STL for JD Drew.
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It really is amazing to see how often the Cardinals have come out way ahead in big trades. Lou Brock/Sutter/Mcgwire/Edmonds/Holliday. That's a ridiculous run. 

Although Steve Carlton for Rick Wise....  :unsure:

 
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If this team struggles, I think that will be a convenient excuse.  Knew Lynn was going to be out.  Yes, Peralta is a blow, but a team should be able to overcome losing its 5th hitter for half a season.  None of the rest of them are earth-shattering.  If it's a struggle, it's going to be because the young bats and the front of the rotation can't hang.

 
Drat.  

Bullpen pitches six innings tonight with zero hits, zero walks, and nine strikeouts.  
But that ended with one out in the 11th. 

I think it's time to panic.


Not really.  

I dug that they brought Diaz up and put him on the field tonight.  If he's here, may as well see if he can play.  

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Drat.  

Bullpen pitches six innings tonight with zero hits, zero walks, and nine strikeouts.  
But that ended with one out in the 11th. 

I think it's time to panic.


Not really.  

I dug that they brought Diaz up and put him on the field tonight.  If he's here, may as well see if he can play.  
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Can't help but think that's one they win with Peralta at SS. A couple of big misplays there in critical moments tonight.

Great bullpen effort though. Really liked what I saw out of THE FINAL BOSS tonight.

 
Bob Sacamano said:
Hazelbaker shirsey?
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Also might be time to build the Aldemys Diaz bandwagon.

As much as the injuries to the front lines concern me (I have considerable doubt Yadi plays more than 60 games, just don't trust that they had to do the surgery twice), I am impressed with the firepower the bench has shown so far.  Also liking the balance of lefty and righty bats.

 
gianmarco said:
More impressive so far:  Hazelbaker or Diaz?
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Going to be a matter of how they adjust once the league has a scouting report on them. 

It's tough to argue against Diaz, strictly going by offensive production, but Hazelbaker has yet to give away a game with his glove.  It would be an insult to Timmy Lupus to say this team has looked like the Bad News Bears at times, so I'll take the guy who appears to be able to field his position.

 
Nice catch by Hazelbaker today

Who's idea is it for Yadi to be stealing bases - just ups the risk of injury to the hand/wrist

Not sure what to think of all this hitting in the last 4 games - Braves and Brewers are not very good

 
Annyong said:
Is the Final Boss legit? Or is it kind of smoke and mirrors?
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He throws a four-seamer about 93 that seems to rise late, and a slider around 85 that moves pretty good.  He mainly sticks to those two.  Has a slow curve and split-finger fastball, but has command issues with them and has the closer's mentality of "I can't lose throwing my third-best pitch".

Most of his batters faced have been strikeouts and walks, a bunch of called third strikes.  So he's doing something that's freezing hitters.  Not sure if it's a general lack of familiarity that will get solved his next time through the league, or if there's something about his windup or release that makes his pitches tough to pick up.

When he comes in and throws 93 upstairs in the 7th, it makes Rosenthal's 100 MPH in the four-seamer in the 9th look like a video game cheat code.

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
He throws a four-seamer about 93 that seems to rise late, and a slider around 85 that moves pretty good.  He mainly sticks to those two.  Has a slow curve and split-finger fastball, but has command issues with them and has the closer's mentality of "I can't lose throwing my third-best pitch".

Most of his batters faced have been strikeouts and walks, a bunch of called third strikes.  So he's doing something that's freezing hitters.  Not sure if it's a general lack of familiarity that will get solved his next time through the league, or if there's something about his windup or release that makes his pitches tough to pick up.

When he comes in and throws 93 upstairs in the 7th, it makes Rosenthal's 100 MPH in the four-seamer in the 9th look like a video game cheat code.
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I thought I remember hearing one of the announcers talk about the fact that hitters have a hard time picking up his pitches due to his release.  Apparently they all look the same coming out.  Seems to be the case based on short term results thus far.  If that's the case, then definitely legit.

 
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