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***Official 2018 Stanley Cup playoffs thread: Caps and Mystics to raise banners together in October. Congrats DC!!!!!!! (1 Viewer)

Dickie Dunn said:
Just quickly went back through the SC Finals history. Since the Original Six era ended in 1968, there have been 21 times in which a team has gone up 3-1 in a series. Only three times has the trailing team even forced a Game 7.

2006: Edmonton trailed 3-1, won Game 5 in OT in Raleigh, then Game 6 at home, lost Game 7 on the road.

1994: Vancouver trailed 3-1, won Game 5 at MSG and Game 6 in 'Couver, lost Game 7 on the road.

1987: Philly trailed 3-1, won Game 5 in Edmonton and Game 6 back home, lost Game 7 on the road.

Of all the other series, 10 were ended by the winning team in Game 5, the other eight went to Game 6.
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My buddy had Rangers season tickets that year - sold his Game 5 tix for enough to pay for the entire season, then still got to see them win the Cup in Game 7. 

 
Brunell4MVP said:
Assuming the Caps win, I shudder to think how fast a celebration might turn into a riot given how little the people of DC proper care about hockey.  Most Caps fans are from the suburbs.  Those people on TV they show at the watch parties ... maybe 5% if that are from downtown DC. 

DC has come incredibly far from the drug and murder capital that it was 40 years ago, and now really is one of the prettiest cities in the US.  I've lived here my whole life and I used to see prostitution and drugs on a daily basis outside my office only a block from the White House.  In the 80s I was robbed at gunpoint twice less than a block from the Capitol building.  Now the downtown part of the city is totally awesome and you feel very safe.

But the miscreants of society will use these events as a way to loot and pillage.  We're no Philly or Detroit, as the bad elements of DC tend to stay hidden these days (or in full view from a political standpoint).  But this is gonna bring those gangs out of SE and NE DC for sure.  Hopefully the authorities have their act together and are prepared to protect our sweet city and the 99% of people that are there to celebrate the right way
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if you're going to rip hockey riot cities you start with Montreal and Vancouver

 
Dickie Dunn said:
2006: Edmonton trailed 3-1, won Game 5 in OT in Raleigh, then Game 6 at home, lost Game 7 on the road.
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Game 5. 2006 Stanley Cup Finals. Worm is splitting postseason tickets with a friend (thanks to @IC FBGCav hookup). I go to Game 1, friend to game 2. Game 5 comes around and I need to decide... Game 5 vs. Game 7... I get to pick! No way the ####### oilers would win game 5 in Raleigh right? I will surely see the clincher!

Then effing Cory Stillman turns it over in our end in OT and ####s me over.

I mean, they still won the cup... but I've never forgiven him for costing me probably my only chance to watch them skate it.

 
Brunell4MVP said:
Assuming the Caps win, I shudder to think how fast a celebration might turn into a riot given how little the people of DC proper care about hockey.  Most Caps fans are from the suburbs.  Those people on TV they show at the watch parties ... maybe 5% if that are from downtown DC. 

DC has come incredibly far from the drug and murder capital that it was 40 years ago, and now really is one of the prettiest cities in the US.  I've lived here my whole life and I used to see prostitution and drugs on a daily basis outside my office only a block from the White House.  In the 80s I was robbed at gunpoint twice less than a block from the Capitol building.  Now the downtown part of the city is totally awesome and you feel very safe.

But the miscreants of society will use these events as a way to loot and pillage.  We're no Philly or Detroit, as the bad elements of DC tend to stay hidden these days (or in full view from a political standpoint).  But this is gonna bring those gangs out of SE and NE DC for sure.  Hopefully the authorities have their act together and are prepared to protect our sweet city and the 99% of people that are there to celebrate the right way
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Yeah, I really don't see that happening. Maybe things get a bit rowdy at the victory parade, but I can't envision a nighttime hockey riot anywhere in the vicinity of downtown. 

 
The_Man said:
Yeah, I really don't see that happening. Maybe things get a bit rowdy at the victory parade, but I can't envision a nighttime hockey riot anywhere in the vicinity of downtown. 
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Haha. I didn't even read that far into the post. Yeah, I don't see "those gangs out of SE and NE DC" flooding 7th Street to burn cars or break restaurant windows or steal TVs.

 
dgreen said:
Haha. I didn't even read that far into the post. Yeah, I don't see "those gangs out of SE and NE DC" flooding 7th Street to burn cars or break restaurant windows or steal TVs.
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Just from a logistical point of view, how would these gangs even get there? 

 
Worm said:
Game 5. 2006 Stanley Cup Finals. Worm is splitting postseason tickets with a friend (thanks to @IC FBGCav hookup). I go to Game 1, friend to game 2. Game 5 comes around and I need to decide... Game 5 vs. Game 7... I get to pick! No way the ####### oilers would win game 5 in Raleigh right? I will surely see the clincher!

Then effing Cory Stillman turns it over in our end in OT and ####s me over.

I mean, they still won the cup... but I've never forgiven him for costing me probably my only chance to watch them skate it.
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haha...that sucks... when Teemu was given the cup, he skated right towards us. I will never forget that.

 
Just watched the Oshie play again from last night.  If you keep watching after he leaves the puck for Backstrom and destroys Miller, he skates to the front of the net and lifts the defenders stick to clear a lane for the cross-ice pass and when Kempny scores Oshie hardly reacts.  It's like he saw the whole thing at center ice when he got on the puck.

 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Just watched the Oshie play again from last night.  If you keep watching after he leaves the puck for Backstrom and destroys Miller, he skates to the front of the net and lifts the defenders stick to clear a lane for the cross-ice pass and when Kempny scores Oshie hardly reacts.  It's like he saw the whole thing at center ice when he got on the puck.
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Which Oshie play from last night? 

More links needed. 

:D

 
My mom texted me last night and said that my Dad (recently retired) was watching game 4 for the 4th time when she got home yesterday.  He's going to be in withdrawal when the finals are over.  My whole family have been Caps fans since the mid 80's, and I think Dad sincerely thought we'd never be in this position.  

 
Fat Nick said:
My mom texted me last night and said that my Dad (recently retired) was watching game 4 for the 4th time when she got home yesterday.  He's going to be in withdrawal when the finals are over.  My whole family have been Caps fans since the mid 80's, and I think Dad sincerely thought we'd never be in this position.  
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You should suggest he go back and listen to the postgame podcasts too

 
dgreen said:
This is when I started to believe this might actually be the year and was the second most exciting moment next to Kuznetsov's OT winner.

Speaking of excitement, kind of weird that these last two games have been lacking in that department. For years, I've begged for comfortable playoff wins and dreaded all those 1 goal games and OT games. Caps fans should never feel like this, but I'm starting to get greedy for a great moment to end the series rather than a comfortable, dominating win. How great would an Ovechkin OT winner be? I don't dare hope for that to be in DC, though. Just end this Thursday.

An Ovechkin OT winner would be like the last script to flip. They were the ones to overcome a 2 game series deficit. They've won more OTs than they've lost. They beat Pittsburgh. They've had the hot goalie post back-to-back shutouts to end a series while facing elimination. They've benefited from great bounces. They've overcome injuries and suspensions. Last playoff narrative to overcome is that Ovechkin doesn't have a playoff OT goal despite playing in about 500 OT games.
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You know, upon further review, I think the top 3 moments have been the Kuzy goal, the Ovie goal 1 minute into Game 7 at Tampa, and the Ovie winner with 1 minute left in Game 3 at Pittsburgh. Though not as dramatic, that Game 7 goal was such a statement of Ovechkin's pure will. The game was as good as over after a minute, because you felt there was no way the Caps were going to be denied. 

As far as any more excitement for the remainder of the series, I'll take a repeat of Game 4 and call it a day. I can't stand the tension. 

Also, I think back to the end of the 2004 World Series. I'm no Red Sox fan, but my wife is Boston born and raised, and I spent many years of my life living in New England. So when it came time for them to finally win a title, I was glad that the Series was pretty much a victory lap after the drama of winning the ALCS. As that final game went along, I thought of all the people I love who had spent their entire lives waiting for a Red Sox championship, and it was actually kind of moving and meaningful to me. It made it possible to appreciate the moment even as it was happening, which was kind of cool.

I'm also still so scared of the rug getting pulled out from under all of this. If they lose Thursday, then it's back to DC for an incredibly pressure-packed Game 6, which could result in a nightmare scenario Game 7. So no OT, no drama, just one more win.

 
Did a little more digging last night.

The last team to lose Game 1 on the road and then win the next three was the '86 Canadiens. They won the series in Game 5 in CalGary.

The other teams since then to lose Game 1 (all on home ice) and then win the next three:

2002 Red Wings (won it in Game 5)

1994 Rangers (lost Games 5-6, won Game 7)

1993 Canadiens (won it in Game 5)

 
Dickie Dunn said:
Did a little more digging last night.

The last team to lose Game 1 on the road and then win the next three was the '86 Canadiens. They won the series in Game 5 in CalGary.

The other teams since then to lose Game 1 (all on home ice) and then win the next three:

2002 Red Wings (won it in Game 5)

1994 Rangers (lost Games 5-6, won Game 7)

1993 Canadiens (won it in Game 5)
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Like the Caps, those 93 Habs also lost the first 2 games in Round One, to the Nordiques, with Roy letting in a couple of weak goals. The media said he should be traded and a Quebec coach said they had solved Roy. So then the Habs won the next 11 games, eliminating Quebec, sweeping Buffalo, and going up 3-0 on the Isles. 

In the finals, Montreal won Games 3 and 4 on OT goals by John LeClair, who became the first player since Rocket Richard in 1951 to score overtime goals in back-to-back playoff games. I had moved to Vermont right before the 93 playoffs started and immediately became a Hockey Night in Canada addict, since we got CBC on cable. And when Vermont local and UVM alum LeClair came up huge, the entire state went crazy.  That far north, the loyalties were split, but there were probably more Habs fans than Bruins fans.

And the the next year, there was the 94 series that's reminding me a little of this year - in that everyone pretty much assumed Game 5 was going to be the Rangers' coronation. They had already schedule the parade, but then blew Game 5 at home before getting beat bad in Game 6 at Vancouver. There was so much pressure going into Game 7 - in retrospect, it's easy to say everyone know Messier would lead them through, but at the time there was a lot of thinking that the Rangers would never end their jinx. 

 
The_Man said:
Like the Caps, those 93 Habs also lost the first 2 games in Round One, to the Nordiques, with Roy letting in a couple of weak goals. The media said he should be traded and a Quebec coach said they had solved Roy. So then the Habs won the next 11 games, eliminating Quebec, sweeping Buffalo, and going up 3-0 on the Isles. 

In the finals, Montreal won Games 3 and 4 on OT goals by John LeClair, who became the first player since Rocket Richard in 1951 to score overtime goals in back-to-back playoff games. I had moved to Vermont right before the 93 playoffs started and immediately became a Hockey Night in Canada addict, since we got CBC on cable. And when Vermont local and UVM alum LeClair came up huge, the entire state went crazy.  That far north, the loyalties were split, but there were probably more Habs fans than Bruins fans.

And the the next year, there was the 94 series that's reminding me a little of this year - in that everyone pretty much assumed Game 5 was going to be the Rangers' coronation. They had already schedule the parade, but then blew Game 5 at home before getting beat bad in Game 6 at Vancouver. There was so much pressure going into Game 7 - in retrospect, it's easy to say everyone know Messier would lead them through, but at the time there was a lot of thinking that the Rangers would never end their jinx. 
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I sat six rows behind the goal he scored on for each of those games.

In game 3, third period, about 5 minutes to go, puck gets iced at the other end.  Roy turns to his right, flips mask to take a drink of water. I stand up and yell, "Roy, you're going to choke," and give him the choke sign. He stares me down with his beady little eyes for like eight seconds. Our section goes ape####.  

 
Getzlaf15 said:
I sat six rows behind the goal he scored on for each of those games.

In game 3, third period, about 5 minutes to go, puck gets iced at the other end.  Roy turns to his right, flips mask to take a drink of water. I stand up and yell, "Roy, you're going to choke," and give him the choke sign. He stares me down with his beady little eyes for like eight seconds. Our section goes ape####.  
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He probably heard you because he didn't have two Stanley Cup rings blocking his ears yet.  

 
The_Man said:
Like the Caps, those 93 Habs also lost the first 2 games in Round One, to the Nordiques, with Roy letting in a couple of weak goals. The media said he should be traded and a Quebec coach said they had solved Roy. So then the Habs won the next 11 games, eliminating Quebec, sweeping Buffalo, and going up 3-0 on the Isles. 

In the finals, Montreal won Games 3 and 4 on OT goals by John LeClair, who became the first player since Rocket Richard in 1951 to score overtime goals in back-to-back playoff games. I had moved to Vermont right before the 93 playoffs started and immediately became a Hockey Night in Canada addict, since we got CBC on cable. And when Vermont local and UVM alum LeClair came up huge, the entire state went crazy.  That far north, the loyalties were split, but there were probably more Habs fans than Bruins fans.

And the the next year, there was the 94 series that's reminding me a little of this year - in that everyone pretty much assumed Game 5 was going to be the Rangers' coronation. They had already schedule the parade, but then blew Game 5 at home before getting beat bad in Game 6 at Vancouver. There was so much pressure going into Game 7 - in retrospect, it's easy to say everyone know Messier would lead them through, but at the time there was a lot of thinking that the Rangers would never end their jinx. 
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Couver got robbed in that series....pavel hit the post several times in game 7 iirc....

 
So far during the playoffs, the Caps have gone:

0-2
10-2
0-3
5-1

They've alternated between looking like they would never win another game, and looking like they would never lose another. Just hoping to avoid one more 0-3 stretch. They've closed each of the first 3 series out on the road - would love to see that streak continue tonight, which would also tie them for the record of most road playoff wins in a season (10).

 
Line tonight is Vegas -150. Series line down to Vegas +500.  My fellow DC sports fans seem totally oblivious to both of these possibilities.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Line tonight is Vegas -150. Series line down to Vegas +500.  My fellow DC sports fans seem totally oblivious to both of these possibilities.
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Too interested in the outcome. If you told me the Red Sox line in 2004 before games four, five, six and seven, I wouldn't have cared a bit. It was all-in, emotionally and everything else one can muster.  

 
rockaction said:
Too interested in the outcome. If you told me the Red Sox line in 2004 before games four, five, six and seven, I wouldn't have cared a bit. It was all-in, emotionally and everything else one can muster.  
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Yeah, and obviously none of us have any experience in this situation so nobody knows what to think or feel.

But IMO there's a big difference between being up 3-1 with home ice and being up 3-1 but only having once chance left to close it out as favorites, and I haven't heard one member of the local media even mention it.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Yeah, and obviously none of us have any experience in this situation so nobody knows what to think or feel.

But IMO there's a big difference between being up 3-1 with home ice and being up 3-1 but only having once chance left to close it out as favorites, and I haven't heard one member of the local media even mention it.
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home ice is way overrated

 
TobiasFunke said:
Yeah, and obviously none of us have any experience in this situation so nobody knows what to think or feel.

But IMO there's a big difference between being up 3-1 with home ice and being up 3-1 but only having once chance left to close it out as favorites, and I haven't heard one member of the local media even mention it.
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Ah, I see. I'll leave it to Brasky to talk about home ice and hockey. Way different than the NBA or others, even. (Though the Astros showed last year how much home field meant in Game Seven.)

Anyway, as Leslie Nielsen would say: Good luck. We're all counting on you.   

 
Seven of the last 10 Cup clinchers were on the road. The only exceptions:

Blackhawks 2015

Kings in both 2012 and 2014

However, before that, all six Cups from 2001-07 were won on home ice.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Line tonight is Vegas -150. Series line down to Vegas +500.  My fellow DC sports fans seem totally oblivious to both of these possibilities.
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I'm already camping out on Pennsylvania Avenue to reserve my spot for the parade.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Yeah, and obviously none of us have any experience in this situation so nobody knows what to think or feel.

But IMO there's a big difference between being up 3-1 with home ice and being up 3-1 but only having once chance left to close it out as favorites, and I haven't heard one member of the local media even mention it.
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Yeah, there could be some widespread panic starting around 11 pm tonight. 

And yet ... I can't help feel good about how the Caps are playing. After going down 1-0 in Game 2, they outscored Vegas 10-2 over 2+ games, before going 2-2 during mostly garbage time in Game 4. Of the 5 goals they've given up in the last 3 games, 2 were fairly close to meaningless.

If the Caps can withstand the first 10 minutes, keep it tied as the crowd settles down, keep dealing out the hits and playing smart defense - none of that Game 1 run-and-gun BS - and deal with whatever line shakeups Vegas throws out there to change things up, I think things start to go their way. 

 
this thread has really been lacking in FC42 StubHub updates this year, but here's one:

@Ticket_IQ: Secondary market demand for Game 6 tickets has exploded while Games 5 & 7 have flatlined. Current cheapest Game 6 ticket is $1,939... over double the $700 Get-in of tonight's Game 5.
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Already suffered a devastating setback. Settling into the couch, reaching for a brimming frosted glass full of a Union Brewing Double Duckpin, and I dumped the whole damn thing on the basement wall to wall carpet. 

Not coincidentally I’m half drunk already so I won’t miss the beer that much. But it’s not a good omen, plus my wife at some point is going to come down here and note it smells like a frat house. Which is actually where we met, so she has harbored a negative association with that smell for nearly a quarter-century now 

 
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