Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Show the whole game on NBC sports if you can't show the celebration on NBC.

Terrible
Show the whole game on NBC sports if you can't show the celebration on NBC.
Yep, not surprised by that. Too bad.Game 2 apparently.Whenever that happened, Bolts were done. He was their best player for three rounds and he almost won the Detroit series by himself.@TBTimes_JSmith: #TBLightning Tyler Johnson said he played with a broken right wrist. Suffered early in this series.
Geez
Sucks man.
Great team down there for you guys. To bad too few support them like you do. Hope you get to experience this side of a SCF.Chicago scored more than 2 goals just once in the whole series (in a game they lost no less) and they still won in 6.
#### me, that's going to sting for a while.
Thanks. I did in 04 which was great, but this was more meaningful because I got my wife into the game this year. We went to all 13 playoff games together. This is her first sports pain, lol.Great team down there for you guys. To bad too few support them like you do. Hope you get to experience this side of a SCF.Chicago scored more than 2 goals just once in the whole series (in a game they lost no less) and they still won in 6.
#### me, that's going to sting for a while.
Why bother flipping over cars when the weather can do it for you.Pretty lame rioting tonight. Stupid tornadoes.
Great team down there for you guys. To bad too few support them like you do. Hope you get to experience this side of a SCF.Chicago scored more than 2 goals just once in the whole series (in a game they lost no less) and they still won in 6.
#### me, that's going to sting for a while.
speak for yourself, screw the hawksTotal dynasty and one of the few dynasties in sports that I don't despise![]()
when he stopped taking faceoffs it was obvious he was hurting@TBTimes_JSmith: #TBLightning Tyler Johnson said he played with a broken right wrist. Suffered early in this series.
Geez
He roots for many teams,depends on how much money is on the line.Lol is this a new thing I missed?Congrats Rud, .
I thought it was pretty well known that after the Sabres he's a Blackhawk fan from his years in Chicago.Lol is this a new thing I missed?Congrats Rud, .
I think the wording that I used was a little unclear. I don't despise the franchise at all. I actually like them. It's just rare because I do despise most dynasties.Was thinking the same. Pretty remarkable. I'd go way more positive than "don't despise" though.Total dynasty and one of the few dynasties in sports that I don't despise![]()
Well I was speaking for myselfspeak for yourself, screw the hawksTotal dynasty and one of the few dynasties in sports that I don't despise![]()
My respect for Bishop skyrocketed after we learned he has a torn groin. Can't imagine how painful it is for Bishop to make a pad save or when there's a mad scramble in front of the net.Kinda surprised they don't replace some of these guys that are so obviously significantly injured to the point that their play suffers
yeah, I'm still a Sabres fan above all else. But, I've lived in Chicago for the past 16 years, which is just about the same length of time I lived in Buffalo for. My wife is from here, my daughter was born here, and the home I bought is within walking distance of the United Center. 10 years ago, nobody I knew in this city even cared about or followed the NHL or the Hawks, so it was pretty easy to ignore them. But, as they started to turn into the monster they are, it was hard not to get sucked in. I used to celebrate the wins, but not really get upset over any losses so I was pretty clearly not a fan. But, over the years, I've bought in a bit more. I'm not a die hard Hawks fan like some here, but I probably care more about hockey than most so I'm going to appreciate a dynasty being formed right in my backyard. Tough not to love this team. Also helps that the Sabres are a non-factor right now, so I don't have to worry about many conflicts.I thought it was pretty well known that after the Sabres he's a Blackhawk fan from his years in Chicago.Lol is this a new thing I missed?Congrats Rud, .
there's probably little chance they can. he's going to get paid by someone. he won his Cup so not much reason to take a huge discount to be a 3rd line player here when he can have a bigger role somewhere else.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
I agree with everything you said. Wishful thinking.there's probably little chance they can. he's going to get paid by someone. he won his Cup so not much reason to take a huge discount to be a 3rd line player here when he can have a bigger role somewhere else.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
they need to move Sharp, and hopefully Bickell too.
I don't think they can keep both Vermette and Saad. Saad is the #1 priority, and he's going to get a big raise.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
doubt they can move Bickell and between Sharp and Oduya one has to be moved/let walk. they are pinched pretty good and Saad is going to command a nice deal so it wouldn't be surprising to see him get poached.there's probably little chance they can. he's going to get paid by someone. he won his Cup so not much reason to take a huge discount to be a 3rd line player here when he can have a bigger role somewhere else.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
they need to move Sharp, and hopefully Bickell too.
I'll settle for keeping Desjardins and dumping Bickell and watching Sharp leave. Lots of kids coming up next year I think, especially on the D.I agree with everything you said. Wishful thinking.there's probably little chance they can. he's going to get paid by someone. he won his Cup so not much reason to take a huge discount to be a 3rd line player here when he can have a bigger role somewhere else.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
they need to move Sharp, and hopefully Bickell too.
They'll move Bickell, they won't get anything for him but he should be gone. Oduya is a foregone conclusion, he's going to get at least 6M and Sharp is likely traded for not much as well.doubt they can move Bickell and between Sharp and Oduya one has to be moved/let walk. they are pinched pretty good and Saad is going to command a nice deal so it wouldn't be surprising to see him get poached.there's probably little chance they can. he's going to get paid by someone. he won his Cup so not much reason to take a huge discount to be a 3rd line player here when he can have a bigger role somewhere else.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
they need to move Sharp, and hopefully Bickell too.
tough to say never when we've seen contracts like Gomez, Clarkson, and Horton get dealt.doubt they can move Bickell and between Sharp and Oduya one has to be moved/let walk. they are pinched pretty good and Saad is going to command a nice deal so it wouldn't be surprising to see him get poached.there's probably little chance they can. he's going to get paid by someone. he won his Cup so not much reason to take a huge discount to be a 3rd line player here when he can have a bigger role somewhere else.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
they need to move Sharp, and hopefully Bickell too.
I guess I just wonder at what point do you sit a guy who clearly isn't at 100%, or anything close. Seems like hockey more than any other sport sticks with injured guys. Bishop was what, 75%? he couldn't push to one side hard, couldn't get back up quickly. Johnson was just invisible. Oduya couldn't use one of his arms for a couple of games. Is there no one else deserving of a chance when these injuries happen? I get that they want to gut it out, but it sure seems like it's hurting the team, not helping.My respect for Bishop skyrocketed after we learned he has a torn groin. Can't imagine how painful it is for Bishop to make a pad save or when there's a mad scramble in front of the net.Kinda surprised they don't replace some of these guys that are so obviously significantly injured to the point that their play suffers
He was amazing this series.
I didn't say never. Bickell has very little trade value IMO without keeping salary. I think a buyout would be more likely. either way I don't think they will be able to save much money there.tough to say never when we've seen contracts like Gomez, Clarkson, and Horton get dealt.doubt they can move Bickell and between Sharp and Oduya one has to be moved/let walk. they are pinched pretty good and Saad is going to command a nice deal so it wouldn't be surprising to see him get poached.there's probably little chance they can. he's going to get paid by someone. he won his Cup so not much reason to take a huge discount to be a 3rd line player here when he can have a bigger role somewhere else.Hope they can find some way to keep Vermette. Going to be an interesting offseason.
Now I need to let my liver take a break for awhile. At least until Saturday.
they need to move Sharp, and hopefully Bickell too.
Pretty sure Oduya is gone.
Their top-11 players under contract are going to count $61.8MM against the cap next year.
Kane, Toews, Sharp, Hossa, Bickell, Versteeg, and Shaw at F.
Seabrook, Keith, Hjalmarsson at D
Crawford in goal.
Sharp ($5.9MM) and Bickell ($4.0MM) and Versteeg ($2.2MM) would be the best candidates to get rid of. They may have to consider trading Seabrook too since he's going to be a UFA next year.
Bishop put up a .939 save percentage with the injury, they should tear it before the start of next year too.I guess I just wonder at what point do you sit a guy who clearly isn't at 100%, or anything close. Seems like hockey more than any other sport sticks with injured guys. Bishop was what, 75%? he couldn't push to one side hard, couldn't get back up quickly. Johnson was just invisible. Oduya couldn't use one of his arms for a couple of games. Is there no one else deserving of a chance when these injuries happen? I get that they want to gut it out, but it sure seems like it's hurting the team, not helping.My respect for Bishop skyrocketed after we learned he has a torn groin. Can't imagine how painful it is for Bishop to make a pad save or when there's a mad scramble in front of the net.Kinda surprised they don't replace some of these guys that are so obviously significantly injured to the point that their play suffers
He was amazing this series.
I know you didn't. I almost did. Just saying there are ways to make it happen if the Hawks are desperate enough whether it's sweetening the deal with other pieces, or retaining salary, etc. I didn't realize at first he has just 2 years left on that deal so maybe a buyout is a better way to go. I think that would be $6MM spread out over 4 years, so they'd have $1.5MM in dead space for 4 years and would save $2.5MM/year over the next 2.I didn't say never. Bickell has very little trade value IMO without keeping salary. I think a buyout would be more likely. either way I don't think they will be able to save much money there.
Horton/Clarkson was a very unique scenario, not a great example.
sure, but how often do you have a budget conscious team sitting with a high earning, long term injured player on roster that will likely never play again? pretty rare to find the match they did.Clarkson/Horton situation was unique, but wasn't Clarkson's deal worse than Bickell's? Columbus decided they'd rather pay a guy to play than just to sit on IR all year. Leafs got cap relief from it.
I hear ya. But watching him try to move, it was just obvious he couldn't do everything. I mean watch him on Kane's goal last night, he couldn't push at all, just sort of stepped. Maybe he never makes that save, but maybe if Kane doesn't know his limitations, he tries to be a little more perfect.Bishop put up a .939 save percentage with the injury, they should tear it before the start of next year too.I guess I just wonder at what point do you sit a guy who clearly isn't at 100%, or anything close. Seems like hockey more than any other sport sticks with injured guys. Bishop was what, 75%? he couldn't push to one side hard, couldn't get back up quickly. Johnson was just invisible. Oduya couldn't use one of his arms for a couple of games. Is there no one else deserving of a chance when these injuries happen? I get that they want to gut it out, but it sure seems like it's hurting the team, not helping.My respect for Bishop skyrocketed after we learned he has a torn groin. Can't imagine how painful it is for Bishop to make a pad save or when there's a mad scramble in front of the net.Kinda surprised they don't replace some of these guys that are so obviously significantly injured to the point that their play suffers
He was amazing this series.