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*Official 2018 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles* - Tough way to go out. Magic finally gone. (4 Viewers)
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I'm an upgrade over our CB's at this point.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Remember when we couldn’t understand why Douglas didn’t play more?
GoBirds
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Our corners right now are Chandon Sullivan, Cra'Von LeBlanc, and DeVante Bausby.
I don’t know any of them.
I don’t know any of them.
Sean Payton has gone 7-9 three of the last five seasons with a healthy Drew Brees. Some seasons, the players stay healthy and the ball bounces the right way. Other seasons they don't. The Eagles have a top 5 quarterback in the league and will for the next dozen years. Sometime in the very near future, we'll look back and simply roll our eyes about this season.
Lol. Same here. Never heard of any of them. They might be from one of the local high schools.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Exactly. Sucks we won’t win back to back Super Bowls. Still in a hell of a lot better spot that a lot of franchises. Need to get healthy and take the kick in the nuts to get focused again.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Bad but who knows what they did or didn’t do.
Wentz coming off the injury. Ajayi and Sproles don’t play. Wallace and Hollins out all year. Peters and Lane missing games and the healthy ones stink.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
I will never forgive Josh McDaniels. And NY radio is already talking about getting DeFilippo to replace Bowles.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Yep. Worst loss by a defending SB champ in NFL history. I think we all expected the loss but that #### today was embarrassing.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I think we now know why Schwartz wasn't in HC talks. Maybe its time for Howie to phone is Alma Mater and ask what Todd Grantham thinks of being the Eagles new DC. He's aggressive on 3rd downs BTW.
DJackson10
Footballguy
SO what's Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown, Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, Eric Allen (Already is offering his services btw on twitter today), Dawkins and Quinton Mikell doing these days? Any of them in football shape? As old as these guys are it's better then the trash we'll send out there next Sunday
Deamon
Footballguy
That was rough. But not in the least surprised. I don't think any of us expected this game... Saints are likely SB favourites after this week.
Injuries and heartbreaking losses (not this one) have been the story of the year. No doubt that with a healthy-ish squad and a couple improbable plays not happening, we'd be leading this division. Likely better this way though... even if we were healthy and those bounces went our way, no way we could compete with the Saints in the playoffs this year. Hopefully this team can refocus and not totally implode. Time to scour teams' practice rosters for CBs. Jacksonville must have a few on there that would be instant starters for us.
Injuries and heartbreaking losses (not this one) have been the story of the year. No doubt that with a healthy-ish squad and a couple improbable plays not happening, we'd be leading this division. Likely better this way though... even if we were healthy and those bounces went our way, no way we could compete with the Saints in the playoffs this year. Hopefully this team can refocus and not totally implode. Time to scour teams' practice rosters for CBs. Jacksonville must have a few on there that would be instant starters for us.
babydemon90
Footballguy
This team is going to have to go through a LOT of changes next year. Hopefully at OC and DC as well as personnel.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Yup and they may be catching the Giants at the wrong time. Wouldn't really surprise me if the Eagles lose.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
He will be I’m sure but at the same time our DL needs to actually play better. I don’t think he’s as bad as people think either. At the end of the day players need to actually want to do well
I disagree with this. The talent is there. There have been SO many injuries and combined with the SB hangover it’s a recipe for disaster.
IMO we really just need one thing- a rock solid draft.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Best part is if the Giants win my one Giants manager won't even be happy. He wants them to lose for a QB.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Until we have something that resembles and NFL Seconday we may not win another game.
I said 6-10/7-9 a week ago. It’s heading toward 5-11
babydemon90
Footballguy
Cowboys will probably squak out the division now. Jason Clapper's job saved?
Hmm, might be worth it. No way they'd win a playoff game, plus there's no way I want Jason Garrett out of there.
Insein
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modogg
Footballguy
little jealous, i am more than dissapointed. And i really hope the team is too. Getting embarrassed on national TV is never good, and completely reinforces the idea that last year was a fluke where everything went their way. Not having any fight or ability to swing back is just depressing. Coaching staff does need a big kick in the ### too, not sure how you let that happen and just move on.
Bit worried too. Lot of talk about injuries sure, but what is worrisome is some of those guys are on the wrong side of their career. that means we are getting to see the potential guys who will be taking their spots. Was funny thinking pre-season we had too many CBs and we should look to trade one like Darby or something. I don't know who they can have start at CB that i can say i feel confident we will have a good secondary. Sure there are multiple injuries, but not sure where this team's future lies.
Look at position by position. One position not effected by injuries too much is LB. But where the hell have they been? barely hear them mentioned most games. I know a lot has to do with scheme, but how the hell are we hearing about Jenkins making big tackles at the line of scrimmage? are the LBs even around? Brandon Graham has to be a bit concerned he didn't sign any of the previous offers with his contract cause he has pretty much 0 chance of coming back at a price he wants.
where is the leadership in the locker room? felt it was a strength last year, seems abundantly absent now. After that surprising loss to the Cowboys you would have thought they would have got together and put up a solid effort today. is the whole team depressed or what?
I mean honestly, losing by 40+ points is not something that should be glossed over. I get not panicking, but this whole season has been a letdown. What have they had 1 good game? i don't know the answer, but i certainly expected better. Kind of feel for the guys who were working out all last year to get back for this year to this?
Just gross, and embarrassing. And i hope they show something, because it is taking away from that SB win like it may have been a fluke and that sucks more and more by each of these crap games
Deamon
Footballguy
Yep. Need to get healthy, refocused, get a RB, and have a solid draft and we're right back in it. Curious who will be favoured to win the div next year.
Deamon
Footballguy
Hate when people use the term 'fluke'. We were the best team in the league the entire year last year. Yes, the stars aligned for our playoff run.... most times it does for teams unless they're totally dominant teams. But that SB win was fully, completely, deserved. Nothing that happens this season can take that away or make that cheapened. This is a different team this year.
That said, still think we are better than Tampa Bay, better than Carolina, and better than Tennessee. The second two being games that we win 99/100 times. We aren't in New Orleans' league, nor the Rams, and likely not even Chicago, Green Bay, Minny. The meltdown is overstated. We are no longer an A grade team and that sucks.
Agree with you on the leadership stuff. Not sure where that hunger is this year. Don't know where that fight is. Maybe we're just too decimated that we don't have the talent to ride that emotion to wins like we could last year. That is likely the case.
Frustrating for sure and I just hope we at least show up next week. We've still got the talent to beat the Giants... so that game will really tell us if we have any fight/leadership left in that locker room. It'll be too little too late for this year, but at least we'll know how the mental strength of this team is.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
We all know where it is. These guys were rock stars starting February 5th. We were so hungry and starving for a ring and when we got it everyone took it easy. Coaches, players and fans. This year will be humbling for everyone on the team and I look forward to them bouncing back big time next season.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Wow.
Deamon
Footballguy
I think it's a tiny bit of A, and a tiny bit of B. But neither are significant reasons. Would put C (injuries) and D (bad luck... aka giving up 2 4th and longs for losses) as the main culprits. But yes, the talent not being super elite and the complacency are also to blame. Lots of reasons but probably a good year to have a down year. Those top 2 NFC teams are super elite.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Derrick Gunn tweeted that at least one of todays injured is possible a season ender but won't know till MRI's tomorrow. I'd guess Avonte Maddox.
modogg
Footballguy
didn't see this during the game:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2806710-malcolm-jenkins-explains-why-he-gave-sean-payton-the-finger-in-eagles-vs-saints
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2806710-malcolm-jenkins-explains-why-he-gave-sean-payton-the-finger-in-eagles-vs-saints
DJackson10
Footballguy
SO basically he didn't like that Sean Payton ran two plays he'd consider **** moves to call up by 31 near the end of the game.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Many are the same guys we had last year that looked much, much better. The talent is there, the hunger is not. I refuse to believe that guys like Lane Johnson, Jason Kelce, Hick, Bradham, Jeffery, Graham, Darby etc all just lost their talent
I mentioned it last year and heard another person on NFL Network allude to the same. Last year they were all hype and looked like a college team. Everyone was pumped up and on the same page. This year they’re just there. They don’t even look like they know how or when to celebrate. We all saw it in the very first game of the pre-season and chalked it up to just being the pre-season and it rolled right into week 1 and hasn’t stopped since.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
I didn't see it, but did see them hug and chat after the game, so doesn't seem like a big deal...except to the media, of course.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Guys. I get Schwartz deserves a lot of shade. But we all knew they had to get into an Arena game to have a chance. Schwartz is literally playing guys off the street.
Wentz deserves most of the blame. I don’t give two ####s about his “improved stats” this year. He doesn’t have a clutch bone this year.
Wentz deserves most of the blame. I don’t give two ####s about his “improved stats” this year. He doesn’t have a clutch bone this year.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
I 
Malcolm.
Malcolm.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I’m not going to do this one either. Why is he not clutch? Because he doesn’t let us fall behind to bring us back? There’s tons of clutch plays he’s made. Tons.
Everyone wants to blame one person or coach. THE ENTIRE TEAM LOOKS AWFUL. Not even like below average. All of them, at the same time all look bad.
Our lone F’ing highlight yesterday was a damn tackle our punter made.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
There are no fires to be lit this season. The time for that has come and gone.
The ONLY thing we have to gain, from this year, is valuable experience to never let it happen again. That goes for management, coaches players and even fans.
babydemon90
Footballguy
- Injuries are even worse
- Offense has flat struggled. I'm guessing defenses adjusted to what we did last year, and we have not responded well. Put that on coaching.
- Defense has struggled - they weren't good last year, but have been even worse this year. I think this is due in large part to injuries/secondary losses, and a much less effective DL push. Last year everything revolved around that DL pressure, so without it this year we've been bad. Run defense also took a HUGE step back, we were great at that last year.
A lot of these high priced vets are going to be gone this offseason. We're going to need some of our young guys to step up next year. I would love to see some outside blood at OC as well. I don't think the hire from within worked out.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Could you imagine this season if we lost the SB? I may have quit football lol
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
babydemon90
Footballguy
Was just saying that to my wife yesterday. If we had come so close, but didn't make it, then crashed? I think this season would be less painful, but makes it even better then we pulled it out when we did.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Defensive line
• 49 snaps: Fletcher Cox
• 42 snaps: Michael Bennett
• 42 snaps: Brandon Graham
• 39 snaps: Chris Long
• 33 snaps: Haloti Ngata
• 30 snaps: T.Y. McGill
• 23 snaps: Treyvon Hester
• 20 snaps: Josh Sweat
Cox and Sweat are the only ones that are going to be on the team next year.
• 49 snaps: Fletcher Cox
• 42 snaps: Michael Bennett
• 42 snaps: Brandon Graham
• 39 snaps: Chris Long
• 33 snaps: Haloti Ngata
• 30 snaps: T.Y. McGill
• 23 snaps: Treyvon Hester
• 20 snaps: Josh Sweat
Cox and Sweat are the only ones that are going to be on the team next year.
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