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Anything below a 3rd, right now, isn't worth it. I 'think' if you trade him this offseason it's breakeven - you don't save any cap money basically. So there is no upside $$ wise. You'd need SOME value, and there is a chance he can be fixed. One bad season doesn't mean all his other promising seasons didn't exist.
We saw different things with his arm. His arm was noticeable weaker than Wentz’s.
Evaluation time.
He was drafted and pegged a a development QB by a team that’s done a crap job of development.
It is an interesting thought, as getting that money off the books would be huge IF we decide to move on from Wentz. If we end up somehow drafting a QB early, than I think at this point we would take a late pick for Wentz, but this doesn't seem likely for many reasons.
Agreed. I actually think he will come and try to do the right things... be decisive, let it rip, but also make mistakes. Just hope they don't ruin him by throwing him to the wolves before he's ready.
i think they had to make this move, was evident ever since the Dallas/Cle games after the bye. Wentz hasn't shown any improvement this year, and has been regressing. if you want to save his career it was best to take him out since it was evident he couldn't fight his way out of this slump. Seattle game was the most telling as well with their 30th ranked pass defense.
All of his actions since like week 2 or 3 have sounded as desperate as this reads. The team is in shambles, everyone knows it and he's fighting for his job. The offensive starters, coaches, QB etc are all his doing and they've failed across the board. He's down to his last straw or believes he is.
Seeing what a developmental QB has, with this OL and WR core is dangerous. We are paying Sudfeld 3 million and had him as the back up and he's just inactive every week. He's who should have been the back up and the guy getting the start. If/when he sucks along with the surrounding cast he's gone after this year anyway.
Wentz looks like a statue compared to these. In fact, Wentz looked like a statue this season compared to his old self, not to take anything away from all the pounding he took running for his life. We discussed at length about he looking over his shoulder all year. In addition to that, having had two season ending injuries in a short career maybe took a toll on his psyche as well. I mean this is not a good career progression so far...
I don't see how neither Carson nor Jalen would succeed under the circumstances if both Wentz and Hurts are on the team and Hurts turns out to be more than competent ROS this year. The Indy comments here and in Wentz's thread are intriguing, if not for the dollars that will handcuff both teams from making things easy. What a mess.
That’s if I had to make a bet at that time. I’d have to see where we are come the Dallas game and how we match up. If you’d like I’ll do the next two with you. Name the price and shoot me a PM
When someone disagrees with you, or doesn’t like the Eagles, or expresses joy in the the sucktitude of the Eagles....that doesn’t make them a troll
Guess you don't know what trolling is. Guess that makes sense since you got a week ban for trolling a few weeks ago.
I don’t think his injuries have anything to do with what we’re seeing now. His last injury of any significance was in 2018 and didn’t require any surgery. He’s coming off of a 64% 4,000 yard season going 27-7 and getting us into the playoffs with a trash team. When you look at how he’s played in the past he didn’t all of a sudden forget how to play. On NFLN today they even mentioned a bunch of QB’s that have had this issue and rebounded. He mentioned Brady this year, Rodgers and Wilson in the past etc. this is a correctable issue. The lack of OL and weapons combined with inept coaching (silly 4th down decisions, not taking FG’s, going for 2 down 4, crap game plans etc) can not continue.
I didn’t get a ban for trolling. There was a poster who was making a fool of himself and I told him he was making a fool of himself. That’s frowned upon here
Dude, much of that is literally the definition of trolling especially when you do it in this thread lol
Exactly lol.
Imo, trolling is what you did in a game thread when you posted that I whine when people say anything at all bad about the Cowboys in that team thread
Pretty much what you posted the last time. You going to pretend none of that happened?
People read these threads, and they now know you’re totally full of crap
Just a horrible spot for them. As I read it they take a monstrous cap hit next year but it improves greatly in futures years if they trade him as opposed to outright releasing him?Bigboy10182000 said:
Is it all dead money no matter what the trade details? What are the chances/dead money hit if let's say Indy trades for him?Bigboy10182000 said:
You’d have to have him restructure before dealing him. Next year is the first year of his extension and he’s not going to give up that money.
Tomlin always has 1-2 quotes a week that standout as greatBigboy10182000 said:
I can only give them a backhanded compliment with those. We thought Dillard and Peters were better than Mailata
Bleeding Green came out with an Article talking to a few NFL people who said there would be multiple teams bidding if Carson was available. Around the league he's still viewed as a top QB in a bad situation and bad year. Compared to some of the other young QBs and their contracts if Wentz gets back to MVP level that is incredible team friendly compared to what some of these other QBs are making.Balco said:
If Im a betting man I keep Wentz. Hurts just to me looks like another one of those QBs who looks good his first few yrs then fall off such a huge cliff once teams figure him. He needs to be moving out of the pocket to succeed. Make this kid stand back there as a pocket passer and I don't think he will look like an NFL QB.Bigboy10182000 said:
I don't know the guy personally and was talking to a friend about this but if they fire GM Howie anyway they keep him in his old role as a cap/contract guy like he was before being GM? Not sure how realistic that is but in a perfect world that would be preferred.Deamon said:
Coaching thought that. GM provides a variety of talent from all angles. Coaching is supposed to sort that out. Best man wins.
