*Official 2020 Philadelphia Eagles Thread* Humanity will never recover from the most horrible event to happen in the last 100 years: Doug Pederson pla (2 Viewers)

[Insein]

Or maybe we can become the QB factory and trade Hurts for a 2nd round pick.

I mean so far Hurts has looked like rookie Carson. Using his legs to get yardage and extend the play. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I mean so far Hurts has looked like rookie Carson. Using his legs to get yardage and extend the play. 

Yep. Like the bad is the sum of many parts so is the first half of this game. 

Running the ball, short throws, no sacks, no turnovers and D playing the best game all season. 

 

[Insein]

So eagles win and wash loses and suddenly we're half game out if first,

 

[fred_1_15301]

So eagles win and wash loses and suddenly we're half game out if first,

I thought the Giants had turned the corner and then today happened.  You just don't know what will happen in this league.  

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Step 1: bench quarterback.

Step 2: bench kicker?

 

[Insein]

Step 1: bench quarterback.

Step 2: bench kicker?

Cut kicker

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Step 1: bench quarterback.

Step 2: bench kicker?

Cut kicker

Another awful contract too

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Perfect example of Doug being Doug. Defense is playing crazy good, punt the damn ball and make them go 80+ while you’re UP TWO SCORES!! Moronic 

 

[Insein]

The exact game plan we expected. Miles Sanders, short passes, roll outs and zone reads for Hurts. Solid defense. 

So now we ruin our draft pick just enough, still lose the division. Trade Carson to Indy. Hurts comes back down to earth next year. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The exact game plan we expected. Miles Sanders, short passes, roll outs and zone reads for Hurts. Solid defense. 

So now we ruin our draft pick just enough, still lose the division. Trade Carson to Indy. Hurts comes back down to earth next year. 

It’s a win that makes Doug look even worse IMO. 

 

[Insein]

It’s a win that makes Doug look even worse IMO. 

But people won't see it that way. 

 

[need2know]

The exact game plan we expected. Miles Sanders, short passes, roll outs and zone reads for Hurts. Solid defense. 

So now we ruin our draft pick just enough, still lose the division. Trade Carson to Indy. Hurts comes back down to earth next year. 

Why didn't we see this plan in any of the previous 12 games?   This is winning football

 

[Insein]

Why didn't we see this plan in any of the previous 12 games?   This is winning football

That's exactly the problem. Carson wouldn't have looked nearly as bad or get as shell shocked if we ran the damn ball. 

 

[Insein]

Most complete game they played all season. Balanced offense. Over 200yds rushing. Solid defense. Just wish they would have done that at any point in time before now. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Most complete game they played all season. Balanced offense. Over 200yds rushing. Solid defense. Just wish they would have done that at any point in time before now. 

Did Doug decide “I’m genuinely at risk of getting fired, I should start doing things differently”? 

 

[Insein]

Did Doug decide “I’m genuinely at risk of getting fired, I should start doing things differently”? 

He does it every time he goes to the backup. When it's carson we need to have him throw it 40+ times because he's being paid $100m apparently.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

He does it every time he goes to the backup. When it's carson we need to have him throw it 40+ times because he's being paid $100m apparently.

Reid was the same. All passing when McNabb was playing but a balanced attack when the Jeff Garcia types were playing.

 

[DJackson10]

Guess Doug decided to bench Cam Johnston, too!

Why he's been our best player all season. Pro Bowl year for our Punter. 

 

[DJackson10]

I thought the Giants had turned the corner and then today happened.  You just don't know what will happen in this league.  

ANY GIVEN SUNDAY. It's why I love the NFL. Unlike the NBA you know you got a chance every year. NBA unless you put some super team together hope for a fairytale catch lightening in the bottom because there's no point in watching. 

 

[DJackson10]

It’s a win that makes Doug look even worse IMO. 

The Jabronies won't see it that way. Hopefully Lurie doesn't fall for it either. 

 

[Insein]

Doug Peterson with backup QBs. 11-3. 

With Wentz. 35-33-1. 

He just calls it differently with the backup.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

The best part of the thread title is that (Everybody Hurts Now) works on 2 (3?) levels.

 

[Insein]

Narrative already starting. 

Seth Joyner: "This is the same number of carries Miles Sanders always gets. Carson just sucks."

 

[jasvic]

This thread title. *chef's kiss* Perfection!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Narrative already starting. 

Seth Joyner: "This is the same number of carries Miles Sanders always gets. Carson just sucks."

I don’t even care about the QB’s. If ANY Eagles fan watched all games and came away from this one thinking anything other than “WHERE TF WAS THIS PLAYCALLING AND DESIGN EARLIER?!” I don’t know what to say. 

Isnt it crazy what happens when you give the ball to your stars and work with what you have? How many rollouts? How many new plays? OL actually blocked and our D played awesome. It’s funny how competitive you can be when you play above average. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And regarding the QB’s I thought Hurts played ok all things considered. He reminds me of a lesser Dak Prescott with maybe more mobility. 

The differences between Wentz and him are similar to the ones between him and Foles as a passer. For instance on Hurts’ TD that’s a ball Wentz wouldn’t throw IMO. He’d try to spin out if it and make a play instead of going back shoulder like that. Hurts also threw a few balls that allowed receivers to run through it without breaking momentum so they could gain extra yards. 

I just don’t know his sustainable this offense is with him. The kid gloves were on for sure and when the pressure was on he nearly had a pick 6 and fumbled late. Obviously him being a rookie making his first start factored in. Curious to see the next couple games when defenses adjust. 

Not QB related— Sanders is a damn stud

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And this win moves us from 4th to 9th in the draft 

 

[Deamon]

And this win moves us from 4th to 9th in the draft 

I thought we had a 0% chance to beat the Saints.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I thought we had a 0% chance to beat the Saints.

Yep and IIRC you didn’t give yours and the highest was like 20%

*ETA*

Highest was 25% and if I’m being honest I’d rather have 4 than 9 lol

 

[Deamon]

Yep and IIRC you didn’t give yours and the highest was like 20%

Yes I did not think it would happen.  My whole point from that entire back and forth was that NOTHING is a "lock" or 100%  but you guys kept sticking to the fact that the chance to win today was ZERO.  Nothing is 0% in the NFL.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Yes I did not think it would happen.  My whole point from that entire back and forth was that NOTHING is a "lock" or 100%  but you guys kept sticking to the fact that the chance to win today was ZERO.  Nothing is 0% in the NFL.

Didn’t realize all of that meant so much to you. 

 

[Ash]

My score prediction lines up with yours pretty much exactly.  Hurts 150 yds passing 70 yds rushing with 2 turnovers.

Gameplan needs to be all about space.  Saints mostly play 2 high over man against spread looks, which means a light box.  Also makes it tough to keep a spy on Hurts with that look.

So, spread to run with Miles, designed runs for Hurts and zone read.  It’s tough to go deep against this coverage, but take the underneath matchups.  Need to see some slants, crossers to beat man underneath.  how about we bring back Chip’s mesh / wheel play for the day?  The ran it with Foles so it’s been in Doug’s playbook at some point.

Not a bad prediction, except for the score. 

Hurts played better than I expected.  There were accurate, on time throws to open targets, and calm, level headed decision making.  That should be table stakes for any QB, even a backup. Shows how much this season has sucked that we haven't seen that for so many weeks.

 

[modogg]

Doug press conference was weird. the guys from Birds with Friends said it too, but really was Doug praises Carson on losing games then he praised Jalen tonight. it was like Doug doesn't like Hurts at all

 

[Deamon]

Didn’t realize all of that meant so much to you. 

Figured you'd try to turn the script with something like that.

Either way, the "lock" of the top 5 pick didn't happen.  Which sucks... some amazing players in the top 5 next year, this win is really going to hurt us next year for many reasons.

 

[modogg]

lol, Eagles are 11-2 with Doug coaching back-up QBs

 

[Deamon]

Doug press conference was weird. the guys from Birds with Friends said it too, but really was Doug praises Carson on losing games then he praised Jalen tonight. it was like Doug doesn't like Hurts at all

Wouldn't doubt it.  The switch may have come from above.

 

[Deamon]

Doug Peterson with backup QBs. 11-3. 

With Wentz. 35-33-1. 

He just calls it differently with the backup.

lol, Eagles are 11-2 with Doug coaching back-up QBs

read up Mo

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Figured you'd try to turn the script with something like that.

Either way, the "lock" of the top 5 pick didn't happen.  Which sucks... some amazing players in the top 5 next year, this win is really going to hurt us next year for many reasons.

There’s no script to flip. It’s like some strange moral victory even though you thought they’d lose too. You can win, lose or tie. You don’t get extra credit for predicting a loss but with a different percentage  . We ALL thought they’d lose 

 

[Deamon]

There’s no script to flip. It’s like some strange moral victory even though you thought they’d lose too. You can win, lose or tie. You don’t get extra credit for predicting a loss but with a different percentage  . We ALL thought they’d lose 

Not really at all.  I said we had a small chance.  That chance happened.  You said it was not possible for us to win.  Big difference.

 

[BassNBrew]

I thought 0-4 was a 100% lock. Some of the fans in here make the coach look like Lombardi

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Doug Peterson with backup QBs. 11-3. 

With Wentz. 35-33-1. 

He just calls it differently with the backup.

When he has the back ups in he is so creative and keeps defenses guessing. Today and the SB run are perfect examples and why you can feel like punching him when you watch the previous 12 weeks 

 

[BassNBrew]

There’s no script to flip. It’s like some strange moral victory even though you thought they’d lose too. You can win, lose or tie. You don’t get extra credit for predicting a loss but with a different percentage  . We ALL thought they’d lose 

Not me. I had them at 50/50 to win the division. Remember last year?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Not really at all.  I said we had a small chance.  That chance happened.  You said it was not possible for us to win.  Big difference.

Whatever makes you feel better lol. You thought lose and so did I....

I’m not making pages out of this man lol

I thought 0-4 was a 100% lock. Some of the fans in here make the coach look like Lombardi

Yep and I never got that PM from you either. Guessing you missed my reply huh?

 

[Ash]

Doug's record with backups and the differences in the gameplans we see in those situations is an interesting thing.

How much of the difference is down to Carson's preferences vs. Doug's choices, I wonder?  

ETA: And has Doug's biggest issue being catering to Wentz's preferences too much?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Doug's record with backups and the differences in the gameplans we see in those situations is an interesting thing.

How much of the difference is down to Carson's preferences vs. Doug's choices, I wonder?  

Interesting for sure. He really doesn’t have a feel for how to run an offense with Carson it seems. Even in his rookie year Doug loves to go 40+ passes with him. He just sees him in a different light 

 

[Deamon]

Whatever makes you feel better lol. You thought lose and so did I....

I’m not making pages out of this man lol

Haha jeez so defensive  

I like you and your posts, but man.... it's not the same.   I said it was possible we win, you said it was actually IMPOSSIBLE.... we won.  End of story. 

Either way the win isn't a good thing.  But there's a chance we win out now and win the div.

 

[BassNBrew]

Maybe it’s time to give Doug credit and question Wentz 

 

[Deamon]

Doug's record with backups and the differences in the gameplans we see in those situations is an interesting thing.

How much of the difference is down to Carson's preferences vs. Doug's choices, I wonder?  

Or is it just less pressure? 

One thing we KNOW about Doug's Eagles is that we play better as underdogs with backs up against the wall.  When we are favoured, or healthy, or expected to win, we suck. 

We play to the competitions level.  Hell, this year we have pushed some of the top teams in the league to either losses or near losses.  And then we go and lose to scrub teams.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Maybe it’s time to give Doug credit and question Wentz 

More questions for Doug. It shows you how great he can be and at the same time how stupid he has been 

 

[Insein]

Maybe it’s time to give Doug credit and question Wentz 

Question how? Carson is not the coach. He doesn't call the plays. He's not a pitcher waving off a catcher to get a better pitch to throw. He runs the play that is called or audibles to a play that is also decided for him. Doug has chosen to not run his stud RB in the 2nd half the last 4 weeks since he's been back from injury until today. He's chosen not to roll carson out or do RPOs with him. He's chosen to have long developing routes for the WRs and 5&7 step drops for Carson to run. Yet he choose none of those things with a backup. So I'd say he has a lot of justified questions coming his way. 

He needs to either say Carson doesn't listen to him and forces him to call bad plays (making him an ineffective coach) or he just chooses to think Carson is Brett Favre that will gunsling every game for 45 passes (also stupid).