***Official 2022 World Cup Thread*** (3 Viewers)

[NewlyRetired]

Finally turned my phone on after 7.5 hours of avoiding spoilers. Not too bad today, fellas.

oh that is impressive to avoid the score for that long. Well done!!

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Where is a good place to buy soccer jerseys? Kid wants a Ronaldo jersey for Christmas (I assume the Portugal one but I guess his regular team would work too)

Anyway I googled it and seemed like a lot of shady knockoffs so looking for some good legit sites

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Those first however many minutes, where we just shredded a defense that was happy to bunker and try to keep the game tied, makes me very happy. They couldn't come close to stopping us.

Would love to have prime Jozy on this team.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Kid wants a Ronaldo jersey for Christmas (I assume the Portugal one but I guess his regular team would work too)

note that he has no regular team right now. He is the only player in the WC with out a current team as he left Manchester United shortly before the WC started. Go for the Portugal shirt to be safe.

 

[NewlyRetired]

US players consoling an Iranian who has broken down into tears

https://twitter.com/TelemundoSports/status/1597731883307085824?s=20&t=RonQHKrKdp8XrAAeqPehfQ

 

[NewlyRetired]

Those first however many minutes, where we just shredded a defense that was happy to bunker and try to keep the game tied, makes me very happy. They couldn't come close to stopping us.

Would love to have prime Jozy on this team.

Jozy, McBride, or Dempsey would all have worked really nicely in this team to help fill the talent gap at the 9.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

• Shots on target xG: USA 1.77-0.00 Iran
• All shots xG: USA 1.12-0.82 (0.51 on that 98th minute shot by Taremi)

 

[gianmarco]

Those first however many minutes, where we just shredded a defense that was happy to bunker and try to keep the game tied, makes me very happy. They couldn't come close to stopping us.

Would love to have prime Jozy on this team.

Jozy, McBride, or Dempsey would all have worked really nicely in this team to help fill the talent gap at the 9.

Or @Sand

 

[Skipdog77]

I'm now a little sad that Iran lost.

https://twitter.com/JoeyKnish22/status/1597708050156376066

 

[NewlyRetired]

• (0.51 on that 98th minute shot by Taremi)

was that the low header that made me crap my pants?

 

[culdeus]

• Shots on target xG: USA 1.77-0.00 Iran
• All shots xG: USA 1.12-0.82 (0.51 on that 98th minute shot by Taremi)

Link me to an ELI5 on this

 

[NewlyRetired]

• Shots on target xG: USA 1.77-0.00 Iran
• All shots xG: USA 1.12-0.82 (0.51 on that 98th minute shot by Taremi)

hmmm , something looks off here as I must be misunderstanding how this is compiled.

Isn't xG a sum of all shots (be they on target or not). If that is true (which I am pretty sure it is), how can the all shots xG be lower than the Shots on Target xG? Shouldn't "all shots xG" always bigger or at the very worst, equal than "shots on target xG"?

 

[NewlyRetired]

• Shots on target xG: USA 1.77-0.00 Iran
• All shots xG: USA 1.12-0.82 (0.51 on that 98th minute shot by Taremi)

Link me to an ELI5 on this

What does xG mean?


Put simply, xG (Expected Goals) is the probability of any shot taken to result in a goal. It weighs up the difficulty of a chance by analysing a number of relevant factors to produce a probability figure (between 0 and 1) for whether a goal ought to have been scored from the given situation.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Isn't xG a sum of all shots (be they on target or not). If that is true (which I am pretty sure it is), how can the all shots xG be lower than the Shots on Target xG? Shouldn't be always bigger or at the very worst, equal?

I think we probably made more of our shots than you'd expect. Like more of them went on goal than expected. Just a guess though.

 

[massraider]

(I assume the Portugal one but I guess his regular team would work too)

Last I heard, some Saudi team offered him 225 million for three years.

Getting your kid a Ronaldo jersey from some off-brand Saudi team would be a power move.

 

[BassNBrew]

Sarge ran 9.5K

So did this guy

Find Your Greatness

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Berhalter and Gio share a moment after the game (no, seriously)

 

[bagger]

From my son who is watching at school:

we ran out of our class and started screaming when pulisic scored

Granted we are in soccer-loving Miami but I hope the same thing happened all over the US.

My kids at middle school and elementary school both told me teachers were playing the game. That made me really happy that the kids are getting this kind of exposure and excitement from this. Kids were saying they were all going crazy for Pulisic’s goal.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Berhalter and Gio share a moment after the game (no, seriously)

there is still time for the prodigal son to have his moment this WC......I hope....

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

 

[Frostillicus]

US players consoling an Iranian who has broken down into tears

https://twitter.com/TelemundoSports/status/1597731883307085824?s=20&t=RonQHKrKdp8XrAAeqPehfQ

The emotion you see in the World Cup is really something else.

 

[bagger]

We can beat the Dutch right? This rules.

It’s soccer. Anyone can win. Except Qatar. They suck.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Where is a good place to buy soccer jerseys? Kid wants a Ronaldo jersey for Christmas (I assume the Portugal one but I guess his regular team would work too)

Anyway I googled it and seemed like a lot of shady knockoffs so looking for some good legit sites

The soccer Gods demand that you get him an OG Ronaldo jersey. Maybe the Inter Milan one.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

…..Gio apparently?

 

[AAABatteries]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

Had the same thought but the top sides are constantly moving in new guys as they progress. There may not be a guy on the radar now but I’d say it’s around 50/50 they will be the starting midfield in 2026.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

Had the same thought but the top sides are constantly moving in new guys as they progress. There may not be a guy on the radar now but I’d say it’s around 50/50 they will be the starting midfield in 2026.

I am going to do this when the world cup ends for the US but I am going to line up all the players 24 and under who made this roster and I will try to convince people that 3-5 of the names on the list won't make the roster in 2026.

 

[Dickies]

Have you guys seen the various twitter videos of the people in Tehran celebrating the US victory? I fear that may not end well :(

The people of Iran really are amazing people. It's a shame their government is so backwards.

 

[BassNBrew]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

Had the same thought but the top sides are constantly moving in new guys as they progress. There may not be a guy on the radar now but I’d say it’s around 50/50 they will be the starting midfield in 2026.

I am going to do this when the world cup ends for the US but I am going to line up all the players 24 and under who made this roster and I will try to convince people that 3-5 of the names on the list won't make the roster in 2026.

Moore, 2 goal keepers, Sargent, Haji, Ream, Zimmerman, CCV, Long, Yedlin, Acosta, Morris
I think that's a slam dunk. Probably need to about 10

 

[AAABatteries]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

Had the same thought but the top sides are constantly moving in new guys as they progress. There may not be a guy on the radar now but I’d say it’s around 50/50 they will be the starting midfield in 2026.

I am going to do this when the world cup ends for the US but I am going to line up all the players 24 and under who made this roster and I will try to convince people that 3-5 of the names on the list won't make the roster in 2026.

Moore, 2 goal keepers, Sargent, Haji, Ream, Zimmerman, CCV, Long, Yedlin, Acosta, Morris
I think that's a slam dunk. Probably need to about 10

Most of those guys are over 24.

 

[BassNBrew]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

Had the same thought but the top sides are constantly moving in new guys as they progress. There may not be a guy on the radar now but I’d say it’s around 50/50 they will be the starting midfield in 2026.

I am going to do this when the world cup ends for the US but I am going to line up all the players 24 and under who made this roster and I will try to convince people that 3-5 of the names on the list won't make the roster in 2026.

Moore, 2 goal keepers, Sargent, Haji, Ream, Zimmerman, CCV, Long, Yedlin, Acosta, Morris
I think that's a slam dunk. Probably need to about 10

Most of those guys are over 24.

RIF

2 hours sleep last night. Interested in this post when you do it.

 

[TripItUp]

Agree with the sentiment that the expectation should be that we get out of the group stage.

Anybody peddling something different is protecting the Federation.

This isn’t 20 years ago.

 

[QuizGuy66]

US players consoling an Iranian who has broken down into tears

https://twitter.com/TelemundoSports/status/1597731883307085824?s=20&t=RonQHKrKdp8XrAAeqPehfQ

Rezaeian really played his butt off - should be proud of his effort.
-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

I mean bad enough we regularly have to play Trinidad AND Tobago at the same time but now we have to play Holland, the Dutch, and the Netherlands ALL AT ONCE?!?!
-QG

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I've gotta say, watching these next few days of games is going to be so relaxing knowing that we're already through, as all these other teams press and struggle to get there.

 

[Sand]

So tomorrow the Argentina Poland game and the Denmark Australia game look super juicy. Recording set! Would love to see Poland get a result and I gotta cheer for Australia, though it's highly unlikely they make it through.

Dang - odds on Poland are worse than Australia - +750 vs +600. That's nutty.

 

[Sand]

I mean bad enough we regularly have to play Trinidad AND Tobago at the same time but now we have to play Holland, the Dutch, and the Netherlands ALL AT ONCE?!?!
-QG

Paul Caligiuri just smiled.

 

[QuizGuy66]

coming to a thread near you at some point - 2026 sample pots and groups (both 16x3 and 12x4)
-QG

 

[NewlyRetired]

I mean bad enough we regularly have to play Trinidad AND Tobago at the same time but now we have to play Holland, the Dutch, and the Netherlands ALL AT ONCE?!?!
-QG

Ted Lasso: "How many countries are in this country?"

 

[facook]

Have you guys seen the various twitter videos of the people in Tehran celebrating the US victory? I fear that may not end well :(

The people of Iran really are amazing people. It's a shame their government is so backwards.

Supreme Leadership forms of government rarely govern with the best interests of its people as a key focus.

Hope some change is coming. /No politics.

American Democracy is the worst form of government in the world.

Other than all the rest.

#nopolitics

#freeiran

 

[bagger]

MLS Buzz

We are leaving the group stages with 5 points and the youngest starting XI in the tournament all with a doofus manager handicapping us. This team is elite.

But have you seen that doofus' behind-the-back bounce passes?

That’s his best quality. I do love the bounce passes.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Sounds like Belgium is this years dysfunctional team.

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[Cabine Desportiva] Courtois warns the person who leaked the news of clashes in the Belgium national team locker room to the press: "If we find out who sent this, it will be his last day in the national team."​

 

[Harry Frogfish]

US players consoling an Iranian who has broken down into tears

https://twitter.com/TelemundoSports/status/1597731883307085824?s=20&t=RonQHKrKdp8XrAAeqPehfQ

Pretty sure that's the same guy that got a yellow card, while he was on the bench/sideline. Anyone know what that was about, specifically (besides probly laying into an official)?

 

[RCon]

From my son who is watching at school:

we ran out of our class and started screaming when pulisic scored

Granted we are in soccer-loving Miami but I hope the same thing happened all over the US.

My kids at middle school and elementary school both told me teachers were playing the game. That made me really happy that the kids are getting this kind of exposure and excitement from this. Kids were saying they were all going crazy for Pulisic’s goal.

Picked my kid up from school at halftime. Kids were walking through the parking lot chanting U-S-A, couple of them watching on their phones. Security guard directing traffic asked one of them the score, kid yelled back "One nil US!"

 

[Joe Bryant]

Also worth noting that non/new fans don't quite look at it like we do. While we all want the team to do well, I think we all know this a dress rehearsal for 2026 given the age of the team.

Any experience we pick up here is only going to feed into the next cycle (which hopefully US Soccer does not botch since we need to find as many competitive games as possible with out qualifying being in the picture).

Thanks. That's a good point.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

From my son who is watching at school:

we ran out of our class and started screaming when pulisic scored

Granted we are in soccer-loving Miami but I hope the same thing happened all over the US.

My kids at middle school and elementary school both told me teachers were playing the game. That made me really happy that the kids are getting this kind of exposure and excitement from this. Kids were saying they were all going crazy for Pulisic’s goal.

My last period of the day is a class in U.S. Government that runs from 1:45-2:30. I spent the first 15 minutes of class teaching the kids about the history of relations between the U.S. and Iran, up to the latest controversy with the U.S tweeting out the old Iranian flag. Then we watched the game for the last 30 minutes of class. Kids left too early to see the goal though.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Our talent pool is past the point of being happy about a draw at Honduras or El Salvador. And we should be beyond the point of having to hold on by the skin of our teeth against Iran. Iran are a well organized team with SOME talent, but I didn't see anyone out there with game-changing quality. And we played scared against them instead of going for the jugular

I know non-positive comments are often not well received so I say this with hesitation, but for me, as a total noob, but someone that could be brought into the fold, the words above are a big deal.

It's surprising, and a bit sad honestly, to put this much effort into soccer and we're at a point where we're thrilled to tie a country with 3 million people. Or to have to eke out a win against Iran. Is that American delusion or stupidity? Maybe. But my honest opinion is it seems frustrating we're still at the point of being happy with a draw at Honduras.

Iran is ranked 19th in the World and the crowd was behind them.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Apologies for the question, from here on out, it's single elimination, right?

 

[AAABatteries]

Apologies for the question, from here on out, it's single elimination, right?

There’s 3 more days of group stage games for groups C-H. Then starting Saturday it’s the equivalent of the Sweet Sixteen in CBB. Knockout tournament - winner advances. If required, there will be extra time and then penalty kicks to determine the winner.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Man, if I were an 17-20 year old midfielder in the US system I'd be bummed at my prospects of starting for the next 5 or 6 years. MMA have probably got it locked up when healthy for quite awhile. Lots of room for depth and maybe some tactical flexibility, but it's going to be hard for anyone to break in.

ETA: who in that age range is even legit on the radar right now? McGlynn?

Just looked up Ben Lederman and see that he’s capped with Poland. I had no idea. He’s a bit outside the age range at 22.

Adrian Gill is 16. I only know about him because he’s a friend of a friend in Denver, never seen him play. He’s a midfielder who’s at Barcelona, dual nat who recently turned down an invite from Spain saying he’s committed to the US.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Agree with the sentiment that the expectation should be that we get out of the group stage.

Anybody peddling something different is protecting the Federation.

This isn’t 20 years ago.

agree with the first sentence; disagree with the second; will begrudgingly concede the third