Uruk-Hai
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I’m ok with that. I’m wondering about the domino effect on flights, though. I’m due out Friday morning
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*** Official 2024 Atlantic Hurricane Season Thread *** Post Helene and Milton (2 Viewers)
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Capella
Footballguy
Most of my family is there. Always crazy when they get a storm. I bought in high ground. Not for me.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
They were going over the WORST case scenario on the Weather Channel and ripping right into the outer barriers of Naples/Ft Myers, Captiva/Sanibel, just about every dreamy outer barrier up and down the Gulf side of Florida
They ran a clip of the County Commissioner for Pasco County and they already are ordering mandatory evacuations for 40,000 people
He went on to say that they are going to cut the power before the storm ever makes landfall, I would like to know why exactly.
No spin or spooky language, why does someone feel that's a good idea?
Pasco County Declares Local State Of Emergency, Evacuations Ordered Ahead Of Tropical Storm Helene
PASCO COUNTY, Fla. - Pasco County is bracing for the impact of Tropical Storm Helene, prompting the Board of County Commissioners to declare a Local State of
www.tampafp.com
What is this bluechew they keep running on the Weather Channel? Must be some new requirement for home first aid kits
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
They were going over the WORST case scenario on the Weather Channel and ripping right into the outer barriers of Naples/Ft Myers, Captiva/Sanibel, just about every dreamy outer barrier up and down the Gulf side of Florida
They ran a clip of the County Commissioner for Pasco County and they already are ordering mandatory evacuations for 40,000 people
He went on to say that they are going to cut the power before the storm ever makes landfall, I would like to know why exactly.
No spin or spooky language, why does someone feel that's a good idea?
-From what I hear whenever I talk to officials about these things away from the cameras when it's NOT hurricane season, the answers I get are more about liability and not wanting to be on the hook if people die. They say that even if they warn residents that emergency assistance will not come during the storm, it's not enough and residents will stay if they aren't under mandatory evacuations. We were right on the beach in Juno/Jupiter for Mathew back in 2017 I think it was, it ended up pushing North and was about 50 miles off the coast, maybe even closer. We were told to leave and all the condo building emptied out except for us and 1 other couple and we decided to hunker down and ride it out. Glad we did because the horror stories of folks getting stuck on the road and then actually going North which ended up being where the storm was going, I wouldn't have wanted thatPasco County Declares Local State Of Emergency, Evacuations Ordered Ahead Of Tropical Storm Helene
PASCO COUNTY, Fla. - Pasco County is bracing for the impact of Tropical Storm Helene, prompting the Board of County Commissioners to declare a Local State of
What is this bluechew they keep running on the Weather Channel? Must be some new requirement for home first aid kilt.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
What ever happened to your trip up north? You never gave us an update. Hope they are well and you took care of business, although the family sounded like a lot.They were going over the WORST case scenario on the Weather Channel and ripping right into the outer barriers of Naples/Ft Myers, Captiva/Sanibel, just about every dreamy outer barrier up and down the Gulf side of Florida
They ran a clip of the County Commissioner for Pasco County and they already are ordering mandatory evacuations for 40,000 people
He went on to say that they are going to cut the power before the storm ever makes landfall, I would like to know why exactly.
No spin or spooky language, why does someone feel that's a good idea?
-From what I hear whenever I talk to officials about these things away from the cameras when it's NOT hurricane season, the answers I get are more about liability and not wanting to be on the hook if people die. They say that even if they warn residents that emergency assistance will not come during the storm, it's not enough and residents will stay if they aren't under mandatory evacuations. We were right on the beach in Juno/Jupiter for Mathew back in 2017 I think it was, it ended up pushing North and was about 50 miles off the coast, maybe even closer. We were told to leave and all the condo building emptied out except for us and 1 other couple and we decided to hunker down and ride it out. Glad we did because the horror stories of folks getting stuck on the road and then actually going North which ended up being where the storm was going, I wouldn't have wanted thatPasco County Declares Local State Of Emergency, Evacuations Ordered Ahead Of Tropical Storm Helene
PASCO COUNTY, Fla. - Pasco County is bracing for the impact of Tropical Storm Helene, prompting the Board of County Commissioners to declare a Local State of
What is this bluechew they keep running on the Weather Channel? Must be some new requirement for home first aid kits
Clown Car
Footballguy
Got half the hurricane snacks ready. Finishing up today. My bil lives in Wakulla county and they are under mandatory evacuation for the whole county. He went to their parents in Panama City. We are in Jefferson and staying put. I don’t think we’ve ever sat under a 3 before. Will be something.
gump
Footballguy
Good move. I have my Mom near Clwtr CC and family / friends in Belleair…that’s all high ground with no flooding worries. Friends on the bayside in St Pete however are living this every year. Crazy how low it is vs middle county or even gulf side.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Never thought I’d say this, but I agree with MoP.
Really wish the fear mongering for these things would stop.
Really wish the fear mongering for these things would stop.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Script has flipped a bit. Bands of showers, but the wind is getting it
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Post event sensationalization is a huge issue too as "ruin pron", with people flooding in to the impacted areas to get social media pics and videos, has made matters worse and hampered emergency and recovery efforts. I deploy to disasters full time for work and Hurricane Michael in 2018, was among the worse examples of this I have encountered in 34 years of doing this. The hotel we had pre-booked to react to Michael had its roof tore off by the hurricane, so the closest we could get was in Ft. Walton Beach. For the first week+ after, trying to get to our response tents at the mall in Panama City was taking around 3 hours, one way; and any limited restroom facilities, etc were slammed with "ruin tourists". I will say, FL did appear to learn from Michael as access, in general, for Hurricane Ian was much better. My first assignment then was to charter a boat and survey Sanibel Island (on foot and bikes). Getting through Fort Myers was still a struggle, but much of coastal areas near the dock we were able to use required ID. And, we needed to apply for and use a pass to access the Island as well (by boat at first and by car when the bridge was built back). For Wildfires, California has this generally dialed in as they issue, in advance of "fire season", access permits so essential individuals have immediate access post event and hold back as much ruin tourism (or worse, looting).
Using Michael to gauge Helene, I suspect the impact will be significant. Unlike south FL, northern FL is blanketed with huge trees. I was surprised at the extent of tree damage from Michael (and not just where it came ashore, but up into area like Tallahassee and up in to Georgia), along with expected surge in areas like Mexico Beach.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
-Just to be clear, my son has a home in St Pete and I am a little more concerned today than I was say yesterday
75-80 mph gusts of wind certainly should be something locals there should pay attention to
I do feel for the folks that are in that bend area of Florida, 2nd time this season they are getting smacked around
But then I see Pasco evacuating 40,000 people yesterday and threats of shutting the power down
This is not one of those more compact hurricanes and that might be good in some ways, less likely to hit the Cat-5 since it's so spread out but the flip side is people that are not directly in the path might get taken by surprise if the right feeder band passes over
Good luck over there, stock up on beer for the Hurricane Watch party
HERBERT DA HIPPO
Footballguy
-Just to be clear, my son has a home in St Pete and I am a little more concerned today than I was say yesterday
75-80 mph gusts of wind certainly should be something locals there should pay attention to
I do feel for the folks that are in that bend area of Florida, 2nd time this season they are getting smacked around
But then I see Pasco evacuating 40,000 people yesterday and threats of shutting the power down
This is not one of those more compact hurricanes and that might be good in some ways, less likely to hit the Cat-5 since it's so spread out but the flip side is people that are not directly in the path might get taken by surprise if the right feeder band passes over
Good luck over there, stock up on beer for the Hurricane
The current path is looking somewhat better at the moment for the Tampa/St. Pete area as there's been a slight shift to the west. We will certainly get wind and rain but it's starting to look like we will be spared from anything really serious. If you want some great updates on this area follow a local weather guy on Facebook named Denis Phillips, he gives updates on the area every hour or so.
-Just to be clear, my son has a home in St Pete and I am a little more concerned today than I was say yesterday
75-80 mph gusts of wind certainly should be something locals there should pay attention to
I do feel for the folks that are in that bend area of Florida, 2nd time this season they are getting smacked around
But then I see Pasco evacuating 40,000 people yesterday and threats of shutting the power down
This is not one of those more compact hurricanes and that might be good in some ways, less likely to hit the Cat-5 since it's so spread out but the flip side is people that are not directly in the path might get taken by surprise if the right feeder band passes over
Good luck over there, stock up on beer for the Hurricane Watch party
Osaurus
Footballguy
I am in Riverview. We aren't prepping much outside (single story house with block construction) bc we keep it minimal by design. Just have to take down a shelving unit in the covered lanai full of bins for gardening and the like. Glad to see Helene wobble a bit west, but there's a lot of time left before it gets here. Always mindful of where that wobble goes and those this storm will significantly impact. We replaced all of our windows a couple years ago with the 175 mph impact resistant version. Worth every
-Just to be clear, my son has a home in St Pete and I am a little more concerned today than I was say yesterday
75-80 mph gusts of wind certainly should be something locals there should pay attention to
I do feel for the folks that are in that bend area of Florida, 2nd time this season they are getting smacked around
But then I see Pasco evacuating 40,000 people yesterday and threats of shutting the power down
This is not one of those more compact hurricanes and that might be good in some ways, less likely to hit the Cat-5 since it's so spread out but the flip side is people that are not directly in the path might get taken by surprise if the right feeder band passes over
Good luck over there, stock up on beer for the Hurricane
The current path is looking somewhat better at the moment for the Tampa/St. Pete area as there's been a slight shift to the west. We will certainly get wind and rain but it's starting to look like we will be spared from anything really serious. If you want some great updates on this area follow a local weather guy on Facebook named Denis Phillips, he gives updates on the area every hour or so.
-Just to be clear, my son has a home in St Pete and I am a little more concerned today than I was say yesterday
75-80 mph gusts of wind certainly should be something locals there should pay attention to
I do feel for the folks that are in that bend area of Florida, 2nd time this season they are getting smacked around
But then I see Pasco evacuating 40,000 people yesterday and threats of shutting the power down
This is not one of those more compact hurricanes and that might be good in some ways, less likely to hit the Cat-5 since it's so spread out but the flip side is people that are not directly in the path might get taken by surprise if the right feeder band passes over
Good luck over there, stock up on beer for the Hurricane Watch party
imo.
Osaurus
Footballguy
I get it, but at the same time you know how stupid people are down here. If it's downplayed even to a moderate level, people will make bad decisions which could be very costly. I peronally don't like folks on the Weather Channel treating these events like a sport. It's like bloodlust for hurricanes imo.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
To clarify I'd like to see a more objective reporting of the forecast in each area versus it seemingly always being " just prepare for the absolute worst no matter where you are" so everyone in Florida freaks out and everything has to close across the entire damn state.
It absolutely sucks for the people that get the brunt of it, but the majority of the state gets an extended thunderstorm at most and we deal with those just about every day in the summer.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
I like listening to Dennis because he has a son (?) at FSU like I do and tends to throw in some Tallahassee specific information because he knows a lot of concerned FSU and Florida A&M parents watch him to get information on the impacts to Tally.
culdeus
Footballguy
What is wrong with what the nhc offers?
culdeus
Footballguy
This looks like someone stole windy's API and put a skin on top
3C's
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
I was the kind of person that kept the Weather Channel on for background noise. I don't anymore. Between the over the top graphics and sensationalism, it's like watching a reality game show.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Could. Might. Possible. Maybe.
Osaurus
Footballguy
Most models predict a high 3 so what’s a few more mph?
3C's
Footballguy
The NHC intensity forecast now shows an intensity of 115 kt (Category 4) at 24 hours, which is mirrored by several of the regional hurricane models and the SHIPS guidance. It should be noted that additional strengthening is possible beyond 24 hours before Helene makes landfall Thursday evening.
Even 130mph forecast is likely low upon landfall.
Even 130mph forecast is likely low upon landfall.
culdeus
Footballguy
Nhc has it at a 4 at landfall in latest advisory. There's not much to slow her down until landfall except reed timmer
3C's
Footballguy
Will
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Still a Cat-1 this morning
It's making landfall tonight, this storm must be moving fairly quickly
Already isolated tornadoes down in South Florida
-The storm is massive or wide but the flip side is larger storms typically cannot get quite as powerful as more compact storms
I see the Weather Channel is running the word "Unsurvivable" with this storm and I think that's nuts to keep up on the screen
It is gonna be pretty miserable this afternoon and evening but Florida will be about done with this by late tonight/tomorrow morning
Georgia on the other hand, Atlanta, those places look like they might get some serious rain
20 foot storm surge they're advertising? Hmmmm, i don't know
It's making landfall tonight, this storm must be moving fairly quickly
Already isolated tornadoes down in South Florida
-The storm is massive or wide but the flip side is larger storms typically cannot get quite as powerful as more compact storms
I see the Weather Channel is running the word "Unsurvivable" with this storm and I think that's nuts to keep up on the screen
It is gonna be pretty miserable this afternoon and evening but Florida will be about done with this by late tonight/tomorrow morning
Georgia on the other hand, Atlanta, those places look like they might get some serious rain
20 foot storm surge they're advertising? Hmmmm, i don't know
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beer 30
Footballguy
In the Upstate of South Carolina right by the border from Charlotte. Started raining hard and steady around 7am, probably not going to stop until tomorrow night.
coopersdad
Footballguy
what was on the menu?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
We had a mini feeder band down here on the East Coast, rain was sideways, palm trees bending over pretty far, I thought it was a tornado
The clouds are moving a little more circular
Nothing like what the folks n the Gulf side will experience
325 miles from center you can still feel TS winds
-The eye just doesn't seem that organized which again is a good thing
Osaurus
Footballguy
Pear muffins
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Yeah. Already closed CMS tomorrow so I'm sure the day care is going to shut down too
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
St Pete is gonna have some flooding issues tonight
www.fox13news.com
-Live stream, local weather man is pretty calm on there
FOX 13 Tampa Bay | Local News, Weather, and Live Streams | WTVT
Tampa Bay area news, weather, radar, sports, traffic, live newscasts, and more. From WTVT-TV FOX 13 News in Tampa, home of SkyTower Radar.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Tallahassee, brace for impact, this thing was lined up to for the eye wall to pass directly over, latest has just a slight push to the East but still gonna be a long night
Next up looks like Valdosta is going to be on the "dirty side" of the storm not far from where the eye will pass as it first makes landfall.
It is moving along at 14 mph, that's good.
Next up looks like Valdosta is going to be on the "dirty side" of the storm not far from where the eye will pass as it first makes landfall.
It is moving along at 14 mph, that's good.
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