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Official 2025 Professional Golf thread - Scottie setting records again...and he debuted on tour as a high schooler btw (1 Viewer)

What's the deal with all the crazy putting? Bryson with a 30 foot long putter. Rose pushing the putter with his right hand.
 
What's the deal with all the crazy putting? Bryson with a 30 foot long putter. Rose pushing the putter with his right hand.
Putting technology and theory has advanced significantly the last few years. Research suggests that putting stats improve when players use equipment that eliminates variation in the stroke and putter face. While this generally does not improve stats from distance, putting stats overall improve inside 20 feet (particularly inside 8 feet) when the putter forces the player to make the same stroke every time. Hence the Bryson arm long monstrosity and the boom of zero torque putters.

In other words, gone are the days of the "touch" putters like the Scotty blades and whatever the heck that thing is that Mickelson putted with. In now are the zero-torque, massive mallet heads, with shafts designed to create robotic strokes and grips such as cross-handed, the arm lock, and the claw which are designed to take the wrists out of play. Out are the blade putters designed for an arc stroke and the traditional touch putting stroke.

Golf purists may be crying because putting was previously viewed as an art form, but like the defensive shift in baseball or the move to nothing but three point shots and layups in the NBA, statistical analysis has prevailed over beauty.
 
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What's the deal with all the crazy putting? Bryson with a 30 foot long putter. Rose pushing the putter with his right hand.
Putting technology and theory has advanced significantly the last few years. Research suggests that putting stats improve when players use equipment that eliminates variation in the stroke and putter face. While this generally does not improve stats from distance, putting stats overall improve inside 20 feet (particularly inside 8 feet) when the putter forces the player to make the same stroke every time. Hence the Bryson arm long monstrosity and the boom of zero torque putters.

In other words, gone are the days of the "touch" putters like the Scotty blades and whatever the heck that thing is that Mickelson putted with. In now are the zero-torque, massive mallet heads, with shafts designed to create robotic strokes and grips such as cross-handed, the arm lock, and the claw which are designed to take the wrists out of play. Out are the blade putters designed for an arc stroke and the traditional touch putting stroke.

Golf purists may be crying because putting was previously viewed as an art form, but like the defensive shift in baseball or the move to nothing but three point shots and layups in the NBA, statistical analysis has prevailed over beauty.
I'm still rocking an original Teardrop

 
What's the deal with all the crazy putting? Bryson with a 30 foot long putter. Rose pushing the putter with his right hand.
Putting technology and theory has advanced significantly the last few years. Research suggests that putting stats improve when players use equipment that eliminates variation in the stroke and putter face. While this generally does not improve stats from distance, putting stats overall improve inside 20 feet (particularly inside 8 feet) when the putter forces the player to make the same stroke every time. Hence the Bryson arm long monstrosity and the boom of zero torque putters.

In other words, gone are the days of the "touch" putters like the Scotty blades and whatever the heck that thing is that Mickelson putted with. In now are the zero-torque, massive mallet heads, with shafts designed to create robotic strokes and grips such as cross-handed, the arm lock, and the claw which are designed to take the wrists out of play. Out are the blade putters designed for an arc stroke and the traditional touch putting stroke.

Golf purists may be crying because putting was previously viewed as an art form, but like the defensive shift in baseball or the move to nothing but three point shots and layups in the NBA, statistical analysis has prevailed over beauty.
I'm still rocking an original Teardrop

man i just fell down that hole and read the entire thing that was pretty interesting except for the huffy part banana seats have no place in golf take that to the bank bromigos
 
Plenty of people still play blades / arc swing.

It's just not the blade you may be familiar with

Morikawa
Spieth uses a Scotty

They setup blade putters with different weight balances based on swing arc
 
Will be at the RBC on Friday. Pretty pumped. Have tickets to Doc's BBQ tent on the 15th green. Of the 6 of us going, I am by far the most into PGA tour golf. I told the others to do whatever they want and not worry about me.

Was at a Nike tour even 25+ years ago, but this will be my first PGA tour event.
 
Wesley Bryan appears to be indefinitely suspended for playing in a YouTube scramble event that LIV players were also part of.
 
Anybody watch that Western Intercollegiate golf tourney? I'm jonesing to play Pasatiempo! That kid from Arizona lit it up, shooting -13. 3 rounds in the 60's, winning it back to back. What a magnificent looking course and the green undulations almost make Augusta National look tame. Alister MacKenzie was a genius.
 
Wesley Bryan appears to be indefinitely suspended for playing in a YouTube scramble event that LIV players were also part of.
I’m reading it was a LIV event. That seems distinguishable and I’d side with the PGA if accurate.
Looks like it was Grant Horvats YouTube channel, and LIV agreed to provide six pros for six YouTubers to play against.

Idk. Seems fairly unreasonable to me. He didn't go play at a LIV tournament or join their tour.

The whole thing is idiotic still.
 
Wesley Bryan appears to be indefinitely suspended for playing in a YouTube scramble event that LIV players were also part of.
I’m reading it was a LIV event. That seems distinguishable and I’d side with the PGA if accurate.
Looks like it was Grant Horvats YouTube channel, and LIV agreed to provide six pros for six YouTubers to play against.

Idk. Seems fairly unreasonable to me. He didn't go play at a LIV tournament or join their tour.

The whole thing is idiotic still.
It’s weird, I’m reading conflicting reports. I can say that Charlie Beljan is railing against the PGA for this. If this wasn’t a LIV event, then I’d agree that he shouldn’t be suspended.
 
Wesley Bryan appears to be indefinitely suspended for playing in a YouTube scramble event that LIV players were also part of.
I’m reading it was a LIV event. That seems distinguishable and I’d side with the PGA if accurate.
Looks like it was Grant Horvats YouTube channel, and LIV agreed to provide six pros for six YouTubers to play against.

Idk. Seems fairly unreasonable to me. He didn't go play at a LIV tournament or join their tour.

The whole thing is idiotic still.
It’s weird, I’m reading conflicting reports. I can say that Charlie Beljan is railing against the PGA for this. If this wasn’t a LIV event, then I’d agree that he shouldn’t be suspended.
You can find it. It's literally on Grant Horvats YouTube channel and he seems to be the organizer of it all

The whole thing is stupid to begin with. It's golf. Just have a way to qualify and if you go play somewhere else too then I guess you're risking the points you need to keep a tour card. Oh well. The whole thing is idiotic. If you can be good enough to keep a card and do other stuff sometimes more power to you.
 
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Wesley Bryan appears to be indefinitely suspended for playing in a YouTube scramble event that LIV players were also part of.
I’m reading it was a LIV event. That seems distinguishable and I’d side with the PGA if accurate.
Looks like it was Grant Horvats YouTube channel, and LIV agreed to provide six pros for six YouTubers to play against.

Idk. Seems fairly unreasonable to me. He didn't go play at a LIV tournament or join their tour.

The whole thing is idiotic still.
It’s weird, I’m reading conflicting reports. I can say that Charlie Beljan is railing against the PGA for this. If this wasn’t a LIV event, then I’d agree that he shouldn’t be suspended.
You can find it. It's literally on Grant Horvats YouTube channel and he seems to be the organizer of it all

The whole thing is stupid to begin with. It's golf. Just have a way to qualify and if you go play somewhere else too then I guess you're risking the points you need to keep a tour card. Oh well. The whole thing is idiotic. If you can be good enough to keep a card and do other stuff sometimes more power to you.
Assuming arguendo the bold is true, then I completely agree with you then. The first article I read on this must have been biased to the PGA because the article asserted that it was a LIV event.
 
Wesley Bryan appears to be indefinitely suspended for playing in a YouTube scramble event that LIV players were also part of.
I’m reading it was a LIV event. That seems distinguishable and I’d side with the PGA if accurate.
Looks like it was Grant Horvats YouTube channel, and LIV agreed to provide six pros for six YouTubers to play against.

Idk. Seems fairly unreasonable to me. He didn't go play at a LIV tournament or join their tour.

The whole thing is idiotic still.
It’s weird, I’m reading conflicting reports. I can say that Charlie Beljan is railing against the PGA for this. If this wasn’t a LIV event, then I’d agree that he shouldn’t be suspended.
You can find it. It's literally on Grant Horvats YouTube channel and he seems to be the organizer of it all

The whole thing is stupid to begin with. It's golf. Just have a way to qualify and if you go play somewhere else too then I guess you're risking the points you need to keep a tour card. Oh well. The whole thing is idiotic. If you can be good enough to keep a card and do other stuff sometimes more power to you.
Assuming arguendo the bold is true, then I completely agree with you then. The first article I read on this must have been biased to the PGA because the article asserted that it was a LIV event.
Scottie/Rory just played vs Bryson/Brooks in a 3rd party event...how does that make sense unless this one was a LIV event?
 
Wesley Bryan appears to be indefinitely suspended for playing in a YouTube scramble event that LIV players were also part of.
I’m reading it was a LIV event. That seems distinguishable and I’d side with the PGA if accurate.
Looks like it was Grant Horvats YouTube channel, and LIV agreed to provide six pros for six YouTubers to play against.

Idk. Seems fairly unreasonable to me. He didn't go play at a LIV tournament or join their tour.

The whole thing is idiotic still.
It’s weird, I’m reading conflicting reports. I can say that Charlie Beljan is railing against the PGA for this. If this wasn’t a LIV event, then I’d agree that he shouldn’t be suspended.
You can find it. It's literally on Grant Horvats YouTube channel and he seems to be the organizer of it all

The whole thing is stupid to begin with. It's golf. Just have a way to qualify and if you go play somewhere else too then I guess you're risking the points you need to keep a tour card. Oh well. The whole thing is idiotic. If you can be good enough to keep a card and do other stuff sometimes more power to you.
Assuming arguendo the bold is true, then I completely agree with you then. The first article I read on this must have been biased to the PGA because the article asserted that it was a LIV event.
Scottie/Rory just played vs Bryson/Brooks in a 3rd party event...how does that make sense unless this one was a LIV event?
I think LIV sponsored Horvat's idea. They got publicity and provided golfers. It seems pretty grey and the PGA woke up and chose violence lol.
 
JT may be the story for his low round today but Gary Woodland is once again in the hunt. A GW win would be huge, for me personally bigger than Rory winning the masters
 
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JT may be the story for his low round today but Gary Woodland is once again in the hunt. A GW win would be huge, for me personally bigger than Rory winning the masters
Woodland the guy with the brain tumor? Think i just watched that Full Swing episode last night
 
A few observations from my first PGA tour event:

These guys are really good. We spent the first few hours sitting behind the par 5 15th green. Many of the first players through laid up to between 95 and 125 yards from the green. They could throw absolute darts from there with the Friday pin placement. Being outside of 15 feet was an average shot compared to the rest.

If you think these guys play slow on TV, it's even worse is person. Wyndham Clark took an excruciatingly long time to hit his third from 108 yards into 15. The crowd was starting to get restless. Then he stuffed it to within about 2 feet and the crowd was like, "ok, we get it now."

In person, these guys look a lot smaller, skinny/athletic than they do on TV. The camera adds 10 pounds and all that. Zalatoris could hide behind his putter. Finau is an absolute unit compared to most of the other guys. I knew he was short, but I always thought Brian Harman was built a little stockier. He is also skinny and has learned to play a little quicker.

I know they hit 100s of shots with the crowd around, but I do not like standing 20 feet to the right of these guys when they are hitting driver. Spieth's tee came right at us and a bunch of us ducked. The best angle is from directly behind. Amazing to see the ball flight from that angle.

I was in a group of 6 people and worried about how much the rest of them would enjoy it. They all had a blast and want to go again nest year. I can't find video of Fowler's hole-out on 15 for birdie, but that helped get things started. Everyone wanted to watch the highlights for the remaining days, and we made sure to get back to my sister's place to watch the finish on Sunday.

I would give Doc's BBQ on 15 at the RBC a 10/10. $325 per ticket, but included free drinks, great food, and great seats. We spent a few hours there, then followed a couple groups, came back to Doc's to see those players come in, then followed them to 18.

I would highly recommend a PGA/LIV/LPGA/Korn Ferry event if one is in your area. Pretty amazing to see how good they are.
 
Watching more youtube gold than pro golf.

Josh Allen / Rahn vs. Horvat and Phil



Josh changes Phil's range finder from yards to meters.

Phil hit's it into a bush and the ball bounces out. Josh - "We all came out of a bush"

What a golf player not only hanging with these guys, but excelling.
 
The PGA Pro Champ is going to be a wild ending it appears, in the windy and tough conditions at PGA Village…where the top 20 go to Quail Hollow and the PGA Champ in 2 weeks. My boy John Somers has been charging for 2 days and is trying to make his 3rd straight PGA Champ.

 

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