Spin
Footballguy
Yah, I was just wondering if there are any regulations that restrict when you can renegotiate the original rookie contract?
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cstu
Footballguy
I'm not concerned with Jenkins numbers the rest of the way, but I'd like to see him play well. Here's some info about the WR situation:
attaché case
Footballguy
I wanna see some 4 WR sets with Crab, Moss, Manningham and Jenkins, and let Kaep air it out. Just a few times a game. TE stays home to pass protect.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Tonight on NFLN: A Football Life with Eddie DeBartolo and how he and the 9ers were brought down by a corrupt Louisiana governor.
File under "comedy."
Ah the good ol' days. Congrats on the win - that defense is ##### championship good.
File under "comedy."
Ah the good ol' days. Congrats on the win - that defense is ##### championship good.
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BaBastage
Footballguy
Tough loss to swallow today against an inferior St. Louis team.
I'd put about half of the loss on Kaep's shoulders. We definitely saw some growing pains out there.
First, he should have never been in the end zone for the grounding / safety play; he ran back about 8 yards before heaving the ball. Some blame there goes to the refs for not getting the call right.
Second, for the fumbled - pitch play, I split the blame three ways on that one. First the coaching for calling it in the first place. Then Kaep for the bad toss, then Ginn for not falling on the ball or punching it out of bounds. WTH was he thinking trying to pick it up? I'm ready to call it quits on Ginn, he almost lost the game for us last week too.
Third, Kaep running out of bounds before we kicked the field goal with about 1:30 left in the game. He wasn't picking up any yards, so at least he should have made the Rams burn their timeout.
The rest of the blame goes to the coaches for the mediocre gameplan, and Goldson (?) for the penalty when he hit Bradford sliding. And something's clearly not right with Akers. He'd have been money on that last year. (And again some blame goes to the coaches, why are they playing for that 50 yard field goal knowing Aker's isn't solid instead of being more aggressive to get closer?)
Equally concerning is how they handled the running game and Gore. They should know he won't hold up using him like a workhorse, yet they did nothing to ease the load.
Yes, I think we lost the #2 seed today. SF lost to an inferior team and I'm sick to my stomach. But Harbaugh will (and should) stick with him. The damage has been done, now he has to see this through.
I'm as dejected as I've been all season. Let's hope they turn it around.
I'd put about half of the loss on Kaep's shoulders. We definitely saw some growing pains out there.
First, he should have never been in the end zone for the grounding / safety play; he ran back about 8 yards before heaving the ball. Some blame there goes to the refs for not getting the call right.
Second, for the fumbled - pitch play, I split the blame three ways on that one. First the coaching for calling it in the first place. Then Kaep for the bad toss, then Ginn for not falling on the ball or punching it out of bounds. WTH was he thinking trying to pick it up? I'm ready to call it quits on Ginn, he almost lost the game for us last week too.
Third, Kaep running out of bounds before we kicked the field goal with about 1:30 left in the game. He wasn't picking up any yards, so at least he should have made the Rams burn their timeout.
The rest of the blame goes to the coaches for the mediocre gameplan, and Goldson (?) for the penalty when he hit Bradford sliding. And something's clearly not right with Akers. He'd have been money on that last year. (And again some blame goes to the coaches, why are they playing for that 50 yard field goal knowing Aker's isn't solid instead of being more aggressive to get closer?)
Equally concerning is how they handled the running game and Gore. They should know he won't hold up using him like a workhorse, yet they did nothing to ease the load.
Yes, I think we lost the #2 seed today. SF lost to an inferior team and I'm sick to my stomach. But Harbaugh will (and should) stick with him. The damage has been done, now he has to see this through.
I'm as dejected as I've been all season. Let's hope they turn it around.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Agreed. I also want to pile on 2 guys mentioned. They have to think about unloading Akers. He cannot be relied on from 40+ and kickers in today's game need to be able to do that. I'd probably give him 1 more week. Also, if Goldson wants franchise FS money he's out of his mind. He's good for multiple boneheaded plays per game. He's a plus run defender and isn't a total liability in coverage, but that's 7-8 million better spent elsewhere.'Dr. Awesome said:'BaBastage said:Well said.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
The Rams aren't as inferior as you think.'BaBastage said:
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
You guys are building a great team and will surely be strong contenders for the Super Bowl in the near future. Right now they're definitely inferior to SF. Plus this is the homer thread. Whining, complaining, and being bitter after losing to a division rival and hurting the playoff seeding are expected and somewhat encouraged. TIA for your understanding.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Harbaugh needs to manage the game better. The weak hand option up against your own goal line was idiotic. Then the shot at the endzone after the 2 minute warning saved the Rams another 40 seconds. No way in hell they should be passing or running the edge. Gotta force St.Louis to come out of that drive with no TOs and under 90 seconds. Kaep has gotta make better decisions as well but the HC can't be rolling the dice in spots where a mistake is going to be magnified like they were.
Spin
Footballguy
Brandon Jacobs Suspended
Looks like Harbaugh is making his point clear about what happens when you challenge him. I had no idea about his twitter/instagram pics etc. I did find it odd that it was Dixon in on that 1 yard td, instead of Jacobs as I assumed that's why we brought him in to begin with. I guess this explains it. Although I'm glad, I've always liked Dixon.
Looks like Harbaugh is making his point clear about what happens when you challenge him. I had no idea about his twitter/instagram pics etc. I did find it odd that it was Dixon in on that 1 yard td, instead of Jacobs as I assumed that's why we brought him in to begin with. I guess this explains it. Although I'm glad, I've always liked Dixon.
attaché case
Footballguy
Good. I hated the signing, he brings nothing to the table, let him go somewhere else and be overpaid.Suspended the rest of the reg season without pay? I didn't know a team could do that.
goldenchild
Footballguy
attaché case
Footballguy
Lol, Jacobs says he wants to be released and that the only team he is willing to play for is the Giants. What a buffoon.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
'attaché case said:
Good grief there's an unbelievable amount of stupid coming from this idiot.
attaché case
Footballguy
Yup. We've really needed his 5 carries for 7 yards this season. Lol. He should know and accept his role on the team. With Gore/Hunter/Dixon here, how many carries did he think he was gonna get once he was healthy enough to even play? The funniest thing about this is Giants fans on Twitter telling him they need him and would love to have him back.
He sucks.
He sucks.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
http://podcast.957thegame.com/kbwf5/3765364.mp3?rhidownloadlink=true
Good luck at the Clink in two weeks. Seattle local radio created that musical masterpiece for the 49ers.
Good luck at the Clink in two weeks. Seattle local radio created that musical masterpiece for the 49ers.
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Yeah I doubt he plays in the league again.
proninja
Footballguy
That's terrible, and I'm a Seahawks fanhttp://podcast.957th...wnloadlink=true
Good luck at the Clink in two weeks. Seattle local radio created that musical masterpiece for the 49ers.
attaché case
Footballguy
Harbaugh sticking with Akers. 
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/kevin-kurz/harbaugh-sticking-akers
SANTA CLARA – Despite David Akers’ inconsistency this season, 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh is not considering replacing his kicker "at this time," he said at his Monday press conference at the team’s practice facility.
Akers converted two-of-three field goal attempts on Sunday in New England, missing a 39-yard attempt late in the first quarter, but making a 20-yard attempt as time expired in the first half and a 29-yard try late in regulation to essentially put the game away.
Still, Harbaugh would like to see Akers find his rhythm. The 38-year-old veteran has made just 25-of-35 attempts this season (71.4 percent), and has missed five of his last 16 tries over the last six games.
"The specialists, sometimes they only get four or five opportunities a game. You’ve got to make the play,” Harbaugh said. “We’ve got to see him do it. We’ve got to see him make those plays."
Akers, a long-time kicker for thePhiladelphia Eagles before he joined the49ers in 2011, set an NFL record with 44 field goals last season.
Late last month, the team worked out unemployed veteran kickers Nate Kaeding and Billy Cundiff.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/kevin-kurz/harbaugh-sticking-akers
SANTA CLARA – Despite David Akers’ inconsistency this season, 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh is not considering replacing his kicker "at this time," he said at his Monday press conference at the team’s practice facility.
Akers converted two-of-three field goal attempts on Sunday in New England, missing a 39-yard attempt late in the first quarter, but making a 20-yard attempt as time expired in the first half and a 29-yard try late in regulation to essentially put the game away.
Still, Harbaugh would like to see Akers find his rhythm. The 38-year-old veteran has made just 25-of-35 attempts this season (71.4 percent), and has missed five of his last 16 tries over the last six games.
"The specialists, sometimes they only get four or five opportunities a game. You’ve got to make the play,” Harbaugh said. “We’ve got to see him do it. We’ve got to see him make those plays."
Akers, a long-time kicker for thePhiladelphia Eagles before he joined the49ers in 2011, set an NFL record with 44 field goals last season.
Late last month, the team worked out unemployed veteran kickers Nate Kaeding and Billy Cundiff.
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attaché case
Footballguy
Injuries mounting fast...this season isn't gonna end with a ring, but that's okay, this team will contend for years to come. Harbaugh took a team that had finished .500 or worse the previous 8 years and they will finish 24-7-1 or 23-8-1 in the reg season since he was hired.
Its fun to be a 49er fan again.
Its fun to be a 49er fan again.
It's always rough the week coming off a big loss, but they still have a shot this year. How many teams can lose two of their top 4 wide outs and slide in a first round pick? I'd be afraid of going into Seattle again obviously, but I don't hate any of their other matchups in the playoffs if Justin smith makes it back. They win this week and they won't have to go to Seattle, and it looks like the NYG are out of it. Long term, if they were able to identify a long term QB in Kaepernick, that's the second best thing that could have happened to the franchise (outside a SB win) this year.
goldenchild
Footballguy
I'm seeing a tired defense that is in desperate need of a 1st round bye.
Back to back away games to NE and SEA was brutal especially how SEA is playing right not, but if it is any consolation, they do get the Cardinals at home. On paper, that's the best they could ask for. Besides, GB has no easy game @ MIN. Here's to hoping he breaks the rushing record this week.
goldenchild
Footballguy
With Manningham done for the year, who else do they have after Crab, Moss, and Jenkins and Ginn :X ?
Somewhere in LA, I'm envisioning TO anticipating a ring on his cell phone...
Somewhere in LA, I'm envisioning TO anticipating a ring on his cell phone...
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I know I'm probably in a very small minority, but IF he's still got some talent, I'd support bringing him in. It'll never happen but still, if he can help I say do it!This team is still a contender. Seattle gave 'em quite the beatdown but it's just one game. If Justin Smith is back I think this team has as good a chance as any to win it all.'goldenchild said:
butcher boy
Footballguy
What are the odds the Niners give Alex Smith one last snap/series in the Arizona game, especially if they have the game in hand at some point? It's obvious he won't be here next year and the guy deserves to go out with an ovation for being such a classy dude during his tenure here.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Justin Smith with a partially torn triceps. 
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/12/source-justin-smith-has-partially-torn-triceps.html#storylink=cpy
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/12/source-justin-smith-has-partially-torn-triceps.html#storylink=cpy
attaché case
Footballguy
Bummer. Even if he plays in the post season we won't be nearly as effective as he usually is.
If/when we get bounced in the playoffs, people can blame the QB switch all they want, but the bottom line is its tough to win in this league when injuries mount up like they have in SF recently.
If/when we get bounced in the playoffs, people can blame the QB switch all they want, but the bottom line is its tough to win in this league when injuries mount up like they have in SF recently.
butcher boy
Footballguy
True, but part of the justification behind switching to Kaepernick this early was that he'd be able to give us more of a fighting chance if and when we got behind in a game. I'm excited to see how he handles adversity in the playoffs.
Hooper31
Footballguy
He had that "deer in the headlights" look in the Seattle game, but I still think SF made the right choice in going with Kap. As a Seattle fan I would rather they stuck with Smith. I just don't think Smith is ever going to be special, but Kap just might be. Time will tell.Also, I understand that the SF faithful is down this week, but I think you guys have a ton to thankful for. Your defense is still better than the Seahawks on a neutral field.
Hooper31
Footballguy
I can just see eyes rolling over in SF after reading this tid bit from Vernon Davis. It was on national TV. Everyone saw it in super slow-motion over and over. I know Davis had a tough time making fans a few years ago when Singletary was the coach. Has he made other comments similar to the one below? How does a home team fan deal with that?
http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_22269374/san-francisco-49ers-vernon-davis-practices
http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_22269374/san-francisco-49ers-vernon-davis-practices
goldenchild
Footballguy
After watching the slow-mo replay, it looked like a clean hit to me. The only thing I could think of is first impact on the chest and the crown of the safety's helmet rolling up to the bottom of Davis' facemask. He doesn't even hit his head on the ground when he falls on his back.
attaché case
Footballguy
2nd seed, beaches!!!!
goldenchild
Footballguy
Div champs!!!
attaché case
Footballguy
Also Walker dropped an easy TD. I think we can be okay with Crab, Moss, VD and Walker, but it ain't gonna be easy.
proninja
Footballguy
Half of your receiving corps sounds like bad news after a one night stand
attaché case
Footballguy
good call.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
attaché case
Footballguy
Brandon Jacobs has been released. See ya.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
This is especially true if your coach insists on playing every defensive player for every snap of a game. If the back-ups get zero game time, then your depth really suffers.
attaché case
Footballguy
49ers working out 2 kickers: Billy Cundiff and Justin Medlock. Neither strike me as much of an upgrade, but we gotta sign somone.
drummer
Footballguy
David Akers goes from first team All-Pro, leading scorer in a season in 2011 with 166 (a record that was held by Jerry Rice), to a train wreck in 2012. In the past two seasons he has attempted almost 100 FG - starting at the age of 37 to 38 - with 52 in 2011, and 42 in 2012. Is that too much to ask and 'old' kicker? Morten Andersen and Gary Anderson who kicked until almost 50 years old never attempted more than 50+ in a season their entire career.
CalBear
Footballguy
Please. It's a field goal.
drummer
Footballguy
From 63 yards it ain't "just a FG".
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