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[hxperson]

It's not just download speed - it's the fact that they need so many updates. It's constant (or at least it seems that way to a once-in-awhile user.)

Again, it's very, very rare that I need to do an update of any kind. Their system updates are released about once a quarter - if that.



Here's the history of system updates.

Just going back to recent years, I count 9 for 2011, 7 for 2012. That's 16 over two years. I would wager that's more than MS has had in the 360's entire life.

So yea, for a guy who turns it on every month to every other month, it indeed prettymuch always needs an update.

In 7 years the Xbox 360 had 35 updates that are considered system updates. 14 of those were in the last two years by my count.

Really not that big a difference in frequency, especially when you factor in the need to make updates related to the PSP/PS Vita and as a blu ray player. I agree though that the downloads and installations do seem to take longer. However, I personally only found it noticeable the times I was updating after not turning it on for several months. Lately I've been using it probably once a month, and haven't felt any annoyance from it.

 

[jwb]

It's not just download speed - it's the fact that they need so many updates. It's constant (or at least it seems that way to a once-in-awhile user.)

Again, it's very, very rare that I need to do an update of any kind. Their system updates are released about once a quarter - if that.



Here's the history of system updates.

Just going back to recent years, I count 9 for 2011, 7 for 2012. That's 16 over two years. I would wager that's more than MS has had in the 360's entire life.

So yea, for a guy who turns it on every month to every other month, it indeed prettymuch always needs an update.

In 7 years the Xbox 360 had 35 updates that are considered system updates. 14 of those were in the last two years by my count.

Really not that big a difference in frequency, especially when you factor in the need to make updates related to the PSP/PS Vita and as a blu ray player. I agree though that the downloads and installations do seem to take longer. However, I personally only found it noticeable the times I was updating after not turning it on for several months. Lately I've been using it probably once a month, and haven't felt any annoyance from it.

This is probably what I need to do - then it won't seem as annoying/etc.

 

[larry_boy_44]

From IGN, who is winning E3:

Thank you for voting!
Sony 83.22%
Microsoft 12.38%
Nintendo 4.4%

most of those votes were before Nintendo even said anything...

Good point. I'm sure that 4.4% has probably dropped since then.

Nintendo showed exactly what people expected/wanted out of them.

No one expects "Call of Duty: Mushroom Kingdom"...

They'll sell a bunch of WiiU's every time Mario 3D, Mario Kart, or Smash Bros. comes out, plus Zelda in October. they'll probably drop their price around holidays to 250-300.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

From IGN, who is winning E3:

Thank you for voting!
Sony 83.22%
Microsoft 12.38%
Nintendo 4.4%

most of those votes were before Nintendo even said anything...

Good point. I'm sure that 4.4% has probably dropped since then.

Nintendo showed exactly what people expected/wanted out of them.

No one expects "Call of Duty: Mushroom Kingdom"...

They'll sell a bunch of WiiU's every time Mario 3D, Mario Kart, or Smash Bros. comes out, plus Zelda in October. they'll probably drop their price around holidays to 250-300.

4.4% of the people or less are expecting and/or care about that though

 

[belljr]

im guessing xbox is counting on all the online gamers to stick with them... well that is their intended target

 

[Steve Tasker]

I would probably buy Call of Duty: Mushroom Kingdom if it was on PS4 or X1....

 

[Spanky267]

I dont know if you guys missed this during the M$ PC. But I was complaining on the boards a few months ago when M$ quietly ended the Live Gold Family subscription. Now it turns out that theyve scrapped that for a better incarnation.

You'll now be able to share a single Gold account with the other members of your household. Thats great for me as there are three of us that use the Xbox in my house, myself and both of my sons. So if they keep the subscription rate the same for Gold then it saves me $40 over the old Family deal and $120 over getting seperate Gold accounts for both of my boys.

On the PS3 front, mine is largely a Blu Ray player and rarely a gaming console. I too have the update issue but I chalk it up to its infrequent use. I used to love the Playstation controller, until I got an Xbox.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I dont know if you guys missed this during the M$ PC. But I was complaining on the boards a few months ago when M$ quietly ended the Live Gold Family subscription. Now it turns out that theyve scrapped that for a better incarnation.

You'll now be able to share a single Gold account with the other members of your household. Thats great for me as there are three of us that use the Xbox in my house, myself and both of my sons. So if they keep the subscription rate the same for Gold then it saves me $40 over the old Family deal and $120 over getting seperate Gold accounts for both of my boys.

On the PS3 front, mine is largely a Blu Ray player and rarely a gaming console. I too have the update issue but I chalk it up to its infrequent use. I used to love the Playstation controller, until I got an Xbox.

That is cool, except that I've already paid up both the accounts in my household separately for like the next 4 years

 

[Insein]

From IGN, who is winning E3:





Thank you for voting!

Sony 83.22%



Microsoft 12.38%



Nintendo 4.4%

most of those votes were before Nintendo even said anything...

Good point. I'm sure that 4.4% has probably dropped since then.

Nintendo showed exactly what people expected/wanted out of them.

No one expects "Call of Duty: Mushroom Kingdom"...

They'll sell a bunch of WiiU's every time Mario 3D, Mario Kart, or Smash Bros. comes out, plus Zelda in October. they'll probably drop their price around holidays to 250-300.

4.4% of the people or less are expecting and/or care about that though

4.4% of the hardcore gamer fanboys from ign anyway.

 

[Worm]

Trying to review the xbox verbiage to get a clear understanding of things. This is what I get (and it may just be re-hash but might be useful to someone):

1. Need to connect every 24 hours for gaming only. TV/movies/etc. do not need to connect.

2. Anyone can play any game you or they own on your console.

3. Can give (with no fees) a disc-based game to your friend (30 days on friends list required). Each game can only be given once. Can trade in disc-based games to retailers (which implies you can buy used disc-based games, per usual).

4. Loaning games and/or renting games will NOT be available at launch, but they are exploring these.

5. You can give 10 family members the ability to log in to your shared games library on any XB1. Both you and they can play the game at the same time.

So, I think my only question is: how is the 10 member family determined? If it is just determined by you giving certain accounts access, then that's huge to me. I have a small group of friends that I trust implicitly, and would have no problem granting their XBL accounts full access to my XBL account.

The only thing different from the PS4 on the used games front (as far as I can tell) is that giving to your friend is limited to a one time thing. Buying/selling from retailers should work as normal.

 

[Spanky267]

I dont know if you guys missed this during the M$ PC. But I was complaining on the boards a few months ago when M$ quietly ended the Live Gold Family subscription. Now it turns out that theyve scrapped that for a better incarnation.

You'll now be able to share a single Gold account with the other members of your household. Thats great for me as there are three of us that use the Xbox in my house, myself and both of my sons. So if they keep the subscription rate the same for Gold then it saves me $40 over the old Family deal and $120 over getting seperate Gold accounts for both of my boys.

On the PS3 front, mine is largely a Blu Ray player and rarely a gaming console. I too have the update issue but I chalk it up to its infrequent use. I used to love the Playstation controller, until I got an Xbox.

That is cool, except that I've already paid up both the accounts in my household separately for like the next 4 years

Sorry about that. I was upset initially because I had let the family plan lapse and then couldnt renew it. I havent paid to add both my boys back on to Gold yet. We've been sharing my account, which is exceedingly frustrating.

Soon I wont have to do that anymore.

I wonder if you could roll all the accounts into yours and have the subscriptions youve paid for run consecutively?

 

[Jobber]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

 

[Spanky267]

Trying to review the xbox verbiage to get a clear understanding of things. This is what I get (and it may just be re-hash but might be useful to someone):

1. Need to connect every 24 hours for gaming only. TV/movies/etc. do not need to connect.

2. Anyone can play any game you or they own on your console.

3. Can give (with no fees) a disc-based game to your friend (30 days on friends list required). Each game can only be given once. Can trade in disc-based games to retailers (which implies you can buy used disc-based games, per usual).

4. Loaning games and/or renting games will NOT be available at launch, but they are exploring these.

5. You can give 10 family members the ability to log in to your shared games library on any XB1. Both you and they can play the game at the same time.

So, I think my only question is: how is the 10 member family determined? If it is just determined by you giving certain accounts access, then that's huge to me. I have a small group of friends that I trust implicitly, and would have no problem granting their XBL accounts full access to my XBL account.

The only thing different from the PS4 on the used games front (as far as I can tell) is that giving to your friend is limited to a one time thing. Buying/selling from retailers should work as normal.

I am pretty sure that your 10 family members can be anyone that you designate as such.

The interesting thing will be how they handle DLC.

For example if I purchase Battlefield and its associated DLC will my Family Members be able to play online and access the DLC? Or will they have to pay for the DLC seperately as is the case today?

 

[NCCommish]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

See I'm the opposite. I don't care a lot about online play my interest is single player.

 

[Worm]

Trying to review the xbox verbiage to get a clear understanding of things. This is what I get (and it may just be re-hash but might be useful to someone):

1. Need to connect every 24 hours for gaming only. TV/movies/etc. do not need to connect.

2. Anyone can play any game you or they own on your console.

3. Can give (with no fees) a disc-based game to your friend (30 days on friends list required). Each game can only be given once. Can trade in disc-based games to retailers (which implies you can buy used disc-based games, per usual).

4. Loaning games and/or renting games will NOT be available at launch, but they are exploring these.

5. You can give 10 family members the ability to log in to your shared games library on any XB1. Both you and they can play the game at the same time.

So, I think my only question is: how is the 10 member family determined? If it is just determined by you giving certain accounts access, then that's huge to me. I have a small group of friends that I trust implicitly, and would have no problem granting their XBL accounts full access to my XBL account.

The only thing different from the PS4 on the used games front (as far as I can tell) is that giving to your friend is limited to a one time thing. Buying/selling from retailers should work as normal.

I am pretty sure that your 10 family members can be anyone that you designate as such.

The interesting thing will be how they handle DLC.

For example if I purchase Battlefield and its associated DLC will my Family Members be able to play online and access the DLC? Or will they have to pay for the DLC seperately as is the case today?

And if so, my cost for new games is about to drop to about $10-$20 per game. Me and 5-6 buddies splitting the cost of games is pretty sick.

 

[Worm]

Maybe the "family" members will have to have their XBL subscription linked to your account/credit card.

 

[Slapdash]

Trying to review the xbox verbiage to get a clear understanding of things. This is what I get (and it may just be re-hash but might be useful to someone):

1. Need to connect every 24 hours for gaming only. TV/movies/etc. do not need to connect.

2. Anyone can play any game you or they own on your console.

3. Can give (with no fees) a disc-based game to your friend (30 days on friends list required). Each game can only be given once. Can trade in disc-based games to retailers (which implies you can buy used disc-based games, per usual).

4. Loaning games and/or renting games will NOT be available at launch, but they are exploring these.

5. You can give 10 family members the ability to log in to your shared games library on any XB1. Both you and they can play the game at the same time.

So, I think my only question is: how is the 10 member family determined? If it is just determined by you giving certain accounts access, then that's huge to me. I have a small group of friends that I trust implicitly, and would have no problem granting their XBL accounts full access to my XBL account.

The only thing different from the PS4 on the used games front (as far as I can tell) is that giving to your friend is limited to a one time thing. Buying/selling from retailers should work as normal.

I am pretty sure that your 10 family members can be anyone that you designate as such.

The interesting thing will be how they handle DLC.

For example if I purchase Battlefield and its associated DLC will my Family Members be able to play online and access the DLC? Or will they have to pay for the DLC seperately as is the case today?

And if so, my cost for new games is about to drop to about $10-$20 per game. Me and 5-6 buddies splitting the cost of games is pretty sick.

No way is this going to be the case, but it would be really awesome.

 

[Worm]

Maybe the "family" members will have to have their XBL subscription linked to your account/credit card.

Although thinking about it more, the way the verbiage reads seems to imply that these are family members which do not have their own paid accounts, but just have accounts under the 'parent' account umbrella. So you would just have to give your buddies log in information to a family g-tag.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Doesn't the NFL have a deal with Xbox1 I basically only play online sports games so not sure what way to go here and what has the better outside perks

 

[SlaX]

Xbox has done a few things right, beefed up their network and they have been aggressive locking up exclusives and Xbox first releases.Cod - Xbox firstBF- Xbox first nowTitanfall- exclusiveHalo- exclusiveThey have all of the bigger franchises locked up. I am a casual gamer. I don't play RPG or much else other than FPS. I buy the game and don't need used games. My console is always plugged in. If they spy on me with the kinect they will hear crickets and see nothing but my empty chair as it sits upstairs in my office and the only time I'm up there is to game.All in all, I see more benefit in Xbox despite the higher price and restrictions on trading in games.

Just to be clear, Titanfall is PC and X1 exclusive

And they also said XBox 360.

 

[SlaX]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it... Mario Kart 8Super Mario World U (3D mario)Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game) Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that. But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

Nintendo has always been if it aint broke don't fix it. They just keep finding new ways to give you the same old and it works.

Also, gamers act like they expect Nintendo to be a video game company. But Nintendo is really a toy company who makes video games. And that's why it works.

 

[Steve Tasker]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

I'm almost-there with you, but it does ultimately come to whatever system my friends are going to get. If X1 has dedicated servers but all of my friends have PS4s, I just don't think I'll really enjoy Xbox.

 

[Worm]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

I'm almost-there with you, but it does ultimately come to whatever system my friends are going to get. If X1 has dedicated servers but all of my friends have PS4s, I just don't think I'll really enjoy Xbox.

Yep. That's it.

 

[Spanky267]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

I'm almost-there with you, but it does ultimately come to whatever system my friends are going to get. If X1 has dedicated servers but all of my friends have PS4s, I just don't think I'll really enjoy Xbox.

Yep. That's it.

This is it in a nutshell. If all of the guys that I game with switch to PS4 then I will have to do one of two things. 1. Get a PS4 or 2. Get a whole new friends list.

Getting a new friends list might be cheaper but wont be as fun.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Trying to review the xbox verbiage to get a clear understanding of things. This is what I get (and it may just be re-hash but might be useful to someone):

1. Need to connect every 24 hours for gaming only. TV/movies/etc. do not need to connect.

2. Anyone can play any game you or they own on your console.

3. Can give (with no fees) a disc-based game to your friend (30 days on friends list required). Each game can only be given once. Can trade in disc-based games to retailers (which implies you can buy used disc-based games, per usual).

4. Loaning games and/or renting games will NOT be available at launch, but they are exploring these.

5. You can give 10 family members the ability to log in to your shared games library on any XB1. Both you and they can play the game at the same time.

So, I think my only question is: how is the 10 member family determined? If it is just determined by you giving certain accounts access, then that's huge to me. I have a small group of friends that I trust implicitly, and would have no problem granting their XBL accounts full access to my XBL account.

The only thing different from the PS4 on the used games front (as far as I can tell) is that giving to your friend is limited to a one time thing. Buying/selling from retailers should work as normal.

I am pretty sure that your 10 family members can be anyone that you designate as such.

The interesting thing will be how they handle DLC.

For example if I purchase Battlefield and its associated DLC will my Family Members be able to play online and access the DLC? Or will they have to pay for the DLC seperately as is the case today?

And if so, my cost for new games is about to drop to about $10-$20 per game. Me and 5-6 buddies splitting the cost of games is pretty sick.

No way is this going to be the case, but it would be really awesome.

I cant remember where I read it (IGN or Joystiq probably) but of the 10 people who can access your library, only 2 can play the same game at the same time.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

See I'm the opposite. I don't care a lot about online play my interest is single player.

Sony has been the way to go for single player for quite a while now. What single player exclusives does MS even have? Xbox's advantage has been rooted in MP ever since Sony got their act together enough for Mass Effect, Bioshock, etc to go multi-plat.

 

[NCCommish]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

See I'm the opposite. I don't care a lot about online play my interest is single player.

Sony has been the way to go for single player for quite a while now. What single player exclusives does MS even have? Xbox's advantage has been rooted in MP ever since Sony got their act together enough for Mass Effect, Bioshock, etc to go multi-plat.

Sony had huge problems with Skyrim as I recall. That is one of my biggest plays. In fact I have never had a problem with a single player game on my 360. And I can play ME, Bioshock, etc. I don't know of any PS exclusives except perhaps Uncharted I am all that interested in.

 

[Spanky267]

For me, the thing that'll sway me the most is the online play. Most games, I don't even bother with the single player campaign and jump right into multi (eg Halo, GOW, COD). So if either of these guys have server hosted gaming (non P2P), and a good offering of MP games I'm in.

See I'm the opposite. I don't care a lot about online play my interest is single player.

Sony has been the way to go for single player for quite a while now. What single player exclusives does MS even have? Xbox's advantage has been rooted in MP ever since Sony got their act together enough for Mass Effect, Bioshock, etc to go multi-plat.

Forgive me if I am wrong but dont Gears and Halo have pretty decent single player campaigns? I dont play either but It has seemed that way. I am also sure that Sony had to pay a pretty penny to get Mass Effect and Bioshock to go multiplatform. In those cases if there hadnt been an Xbox360 then the PS3 faithful would never have had the chance to experience either title.

Sony does have some strong single player exclusives though.

 

[LAUNCH]

Are you guys who intend to go XB1 and have decent headsets just planning to buy new ones if they don't have a converter? I begrudgingly preordered a PS4, but have a bad feeling about the onslaught of new users to the PSN. I would have loved to be in the M$ board room today. It probably looks like the ED-209 scene from Robocop.

 

[NCCommish]

On the whole topic of buying a new console I won't for a while. I'm almost always playing last years games anyway so I have no need to be on the bleeding edge. So I'll make my decision after we get a legitimate real world comparison of the two over several months or a years time.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I am also sure that Sony had to pay a pretty penny to get Mass Effect and Bioshock to go multiplatform.

Not sure if this is fishing or not, but in case it isn't I'll give a straightforward answer. Both of these games were timed exclusives. Microsoft was the one the opened up its wallet to keep these games as exclusives on its console for a limited amount of time. Once that period expired, it made economic sense for 2K and Bioware to port their games over to the PS3 due to the size of its install base.

That's why you very rarely see third party exclusives anymore. It doesn't make economic sense for a developer to sink a bunch of up-front production costs into a game for only one console, when you can almost double your sales by investing in a port to the other one too.

 

[Wrigley]

X1 vs P4 sans Wii

edit: oh wait, the Wii is in there

 

[biggamer3]

For me I love my Xbox 360. But I am not a first day go to store guy to buy games. I always wait a few months for the price to go down 50-70%. So by not having that secondary market anymore I will more than likely be switching to PS4. It does suck I would leave Xbox after over 10 years with the brand, but I am not sure Xbox understands the implications of not allowing used games will have on them. I would think they might change their tune and allow used games before its too late and they lose a lot of their market share to Sony.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I haven't seen a single thing that leads me to believe more than one person at a time can play the same game at the same time even under the 10 person family designation. Each person has access to it under their own gamertag that is a sub-tag of the main one, but only one person can play at a time. I'd be interested in reading anything differently from a confirmed source.

It also wouldn't surprise me one bit if they locked family accounts by IP address. So if you try to login to a sub account at a different IP address than the main one, it won't allow it. I haven't heard that, but it would make a lot of sense IMO.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That's just it.

I don't think people will have the patience to figure out how this stuff works and/or take the risk that it won't fit the way they want to buy and play.

So they'll end up ignoring the XB1 and choosing PS4 by default.

 

[Worm]

X1 vs P4 sans Wii

edit: oh wait, the Wii is in there

How does the "exclusive games" list not even talk about the biggest Xbox exclusive (Titanfall)? And why does it say "used game fee: yes" for Microsoft? There are no used game fees imposed by microsoft.

 

[Slapdash]

That's just it.

I don't think people will have the patience to figure out how this stuff works and/or take the risk that it won't fit the way they want to buy and play.

So they'll end up ignoring the XB1 and choosing PS4 by default.

I am going to wait to see if the PS4 is worth getting.

No way I will go with the XB1 since Kinect is required. Just no chance.

 

[Slapdash]

X1 vs P4 sans Wii

edit: oh wait, the Wii is in there

How does the "exclusive games" list not even talk about the biggest Xbox exclusive (Titanfall)? And why does it say "used game fee: yes" for Microsoft? There are no used game fees imposed by microsoft.

Because Titanfall will be on the PC and 360?

 

[Worm]

I haven't seen a single thing that leads me to believe more than one person at a time can play the same game at the same time even under the 10 person family designation. Each person has access to it under their own gamertag that is a sub-tag of the main one, but only one person can play at a time. I'd be interested in reading anything differently from a confirmed source.

It also wouldn't surprise me one bit if they locked family accounts by IP address. So if you try to login to a sub account at a different IP address than the main one, it won't allow it. I haven't heard that, but it would make a lot of sense IMO.

Link

Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

Seems to imply that basically two people can play from your library at a time. You and one other of the 10 people.

 

[Worm]

X1 vs P4 sans Wii

edit: oh wait, the Wii is in there

How does the "exclusive games" list not even talk about the biggest Xbox exclusive (Titanfall)? And why does it say "used game fee: yes" for Microsoft? There are no used game fees imposed by microsoft.

Because Titanfall will be on the PC and 360?

But the comparison is XB1 vs. PS4.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I haven't seen a single thing that leads me to believe more than one person at a time can play the same game at the same time even under the 10 person family designation. Each person has access to it under their own gamertag that is a sub-tag of the main one, but only one person can play at a time. I'd be interested in reading anything differently from a confirmed source.

It also wouldn't surprise me one bit if they locked family accounts by IP address. So if you try to login to a sub account at a different IP address than the main one, it won't allow it. I haven't heard that, but it would make a lot of sense IMO.

Link

Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friends house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

Seems to imply that basically two people can play from your library at a time. You and one other of the 10 people.

Ok, so that's good that it's not locked down by IP address. The other part still just seems way too vague and strangely worded to me.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

X1 vs P4 sans Wii

edit: oh wait, the Wii is in there

How does the "exclusive games" list not even talk about the biggest Xbox exclusive (Titanfall)? And why does it say "used game fee: yes" for Microsoft? There are no used game fees imposed by microsoft.

It might be that the author is thinking only of titles that will be available at launch. Technically Titanfall doesn't come out until early 2014.

More generally, though, I think the author was just making the point that there don't seem to be a lot of exclusives out there right now that are going to tie folks to a particular console. That seems to be general consensus here and elsewhere. Obviously if Titanfall is appealing enough to you that you're willing to pay an extra $100 for it, then your list is different than this guy's. And that's completely okay.

 

[Spanky267]

I am also sure that Sony had to pay a pretty penny to get Mass Effect and Bioshock to go multiplatform.

Not sure if this is fishing or not, but in case it isn't I'll give a straightforward answer. Both of these games were timed exclusives. Microsoft was the one the opened up its wallet to keep these games as exclusives on its console for a limited amount of time. Once that period expired, it made economic sense for 2K and Bioware to port their games over to the PS3 due to the size of its install base.

That's why you very rarely see third party exclusives anymore. It doesn't make economic sense for a developer to sink a bunch of up-front production costs into a game for only one console, when you can almost double your sales by investing in a port to the other one too.

Sorry, wasnt fishing. You refreshed my memory a bit. I do remember that these were limited time exclusives. But correct me if I am wrong. PS3 never did get a stand alone version of Mass Effect 1.

 

[Spanky267]

Are you guys who intend to go XB1 and have decent headsets just planning to buy new ones if they don't have a converter? I begrudgingly preordered a PS4, but have a bad feeling about the onslaught of new users to the PSN. I would have loved to be in the M$ board room today. It probably looks like the ED-209 scene from Robocop.

This one does bug me. I have a decent headset and potentially not being able to use chat on the new Xbox will upset me. But I cant imagine that Tritton wont come out with an adapter.

 

[Worm]

X1 vs P4 sans Wii

edit: oh wait, the Wii is in there

How does the "exclusive games" list not even talk about the biggest Xbox exclusive (Titanfall)? And why does it say "used game fee: yes" for Microsoft? There are no used game fees imposed by microsoft.

It might be that the author is thinking only of titles that will be available at launch. Technically Titanfall doesn't come out until early 2014.

More generally, though, I think the author was just making the point that there don't seem to be a lot of exclusives out there right now that are going to tie folks to a particular console. That seems to be general consensus here and elsewhere. Obviously if Titanfall is appealing enough to you that you're willing to pay an extra $100 for it, then your list is different than this guy's. And that's completely okay.

Yeah, forgot it won't be at launch. Really both companies sort of failed on the 'big blockbuster exclusive launch title' front. I guess that is just the way things are going now.

 

[Bogeys]

I am also sure that Sony had to pay a pretty penny to get Mass Effect and Bioshock to go multiplatform.

Not sure if this is fishing or not, but in case it isn't I'll give a straightforward answer. Both of these games were timed exclusives. Microsoft was the one the opened up its wallet to keep these games as exclusives on its console for a limited amount of time. Once that period expired, it made economic sense for 2K and Bioware to port their games over to the PS3 due to the size of its install base.

That's why you very rarely see third party exclusives anymore. It doesn't make economic sense for a developer to sink a bunch of up-front production costs into a game for only one console, when you can almost double your sales by investing in a port to the other one too.

Sorry, wasnt fishing. You refreshed my memory a bit. I do remember that these were limited time exclusives. But correct me if I am wrong. PS3 never did get a stand alone version of Mass Effect 1.

It can be downloaded from the PS store right now. I was actually looking at it last night, ME1 was $15, ME2 & ME3 were $20 each and the bundle of all 3 games was $60....I was puzzled why anyone would buy the bundle.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I was actually looking at it last night, ME1 was $15, ME2 & ME3 were $20 each and the bundle of all 3 games was $60....I was puzzled why anyone would buy the bundle.

lol.

 

[LAUNCH]

Are you guys who intend to go XB1 and have decent headsets just planning to buy new ones if they don't have a converter? I begrudgingly preordered a PS4, but have a bad feeling about the onslaught of new users to the PSN. I would have loved to be in the M$ board room today. It probably looks like the ED-209 scene from Robocop.

This one does bug me. I have a decent headset and potentially not being able to use chat on the new Xbox will upset me. But I cant imagine that Tritton wont come out with an adapter.

With the money grab M$ is making, there will be no adapter, and they'll just have you yell into the Kinect.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I was actually looking at it last night, ME1 was $15, ME2 & ME3 were $20 each and the bundle of all 3 games was $60....I was puzzled why anyone would buy the bundle.

lol.

Everyone knows that the Japanese are bad at math.

Oh...wait...

 

[SlaX]

X1 vs P4 sans Wii

edit: oh wait, the Wii is in there

How does the "exclusive games" list not even talk about the biggest Xbox exclusive (Titanfall)? And why does it say "used game fee: yes" for Microsoft? There are no used game fees imposed by microsoft.

It might be that the author is thinking only of titles that will be available at launch. Technically Titanfall doesn't come out until early 2014.

More generally, though, I think the author was just making the point that there don't seem to be a lot of exclusives out there right now that are going to tie folks to a particular console. That seems to be general consensus here and elsewhere. Obviously if Titanfall is appealing enough to you that you're willing to pay an extra $100 for it, then your list is different than this guy's. And that's completely okay.

Yeah, forgot it won't be at launch. Really both companies sort of failed on the 'big blockbuster exclusive launch title' front. I guess that is just the way things are going now.

I don't recall either company having a huge title at launch for the PS3 or X360. XBox 360's "killer app" was Perfect Dark Zero, which bombed and PS3 had Resistance: Fall of Man. I haven't played Resistance; I think it got pretty decent reviews, but I don't think it was ever treated as a big blockbuster game.