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[thecatch]

Went from hating my PS3 (mostly due to their network) and love my 360 to being all in on the PS4 and I wont even think about purchasing the X1. Am I the only one that thinks this MS decision could go down as one of the biggest blunders ever?

Nope. Since you're starting fresh with this generation of games/consoles there's no history to compare with. At least at launch of the PS3/360 you had some legacy effect with backwards compatibility. Now, it's more "what have you done for me lately and what are you going to do to me in the near future". MSFT has indicated that they're going to make the experience much more intrusive, difficult to use, and expensive. Sony just seems to be saying "Here. Have fun."

Have to agree. Maybe MS can comeback with cheaper games (steam model) or more exclusives (developers enticed by killing off used games), but I haven't seen any indication that this will be the case. Otherwise, they will have to revamp their strategy or risk getting blown out this generation.

 

[cstu]

I still think there is potential for the xbox family-share/friend-share game system. A 10-member "family" that all have full time access to the game? How does it work exactly? Being able to share digital (?) games with friends from your friends list? Seems pretty awesome for anyone who has a close group of online friends.

If you've got friends who've been on your list for 30 days you can effectively split the cost of a game by installing the game on your Xbox and giving them the disc.

IMO this is actually better than selling used games for people who buy new games, presuming you can find one of your friends who want to split the cost. Who it hurts is the person who likes to buy a game after a year or so for $10.

 

[Worm]

I still think there is potential for the xbox family-share/friend-share game system. A 10-member "family" that all have full time access to the game? How does it work exactly? Being able to share digital (?) games with friends from your friends list? Seems pretty awesome for anyone who has a close group of online friends.

If you've got friends who've been on your list for 30 days you can effectively split the cost of a game by installing the game on your Xbox and giving them the disc.

IMO this is actually better than selling used games for people who buy new games, presuming you can find one of your friends who want to split the cost. Who it hurts is the person who likes to buy a game after a year or so for $10.

I guess my questions are this:

1. Who can go on my 10-person family list, and how?

2. Does the 10-person family list have 24/7 access to my purchased games, and can we play at the same time?

3. What are the game loan restrictions that you mention? Is that only physical disc games or is that digital as well?

 

[Northern Voice]

I still think there is potential for the xbox family-share/friend-share game system. A 10-member "family" that all have full time access to the game? How does it work exactly? Being able to share digital (?) games with friends from your friends list? Seems pretty awesome for anyone who has a close group of online friends.

If you've got friends who've been on your list for 30 days you can effectively split the cost of a game by installing the game on your Xbox and giving them the disc.

IMO this is actually better than selling used games for people who buy new games, presuming you can find one of your friends who want to split the cost. Who it hurts is the person who likes to buy a game after a year or so for $10.

Is it? Around here, you can get $45-$50 for reselling a used game a couple weeks after it's come out. Tons of people buy them new, beat them, flip them and hardly end up any $$$ out of their pocket.

 

[cstu]

I still think there is potential for the xbox family-share/friend-share game system. A 10-member "family" that all have full time access to the game? How does it work exactly? Being able to share digital (?) games with friends from your friends list? Seems pretty awesome for anyone who has a close group of online friends.

If you've got friends who've been on your list for 30 days you can effectively split the cost of a game by installing the game on your Xbox and giving them the disc.

IMO this is actually better than selling used games for people who buy new games, presuming you can find one of your friends who want to split the cost. Who it hurts is the person who likes to buy a game after a year or so for $10.

Is it? Around here, you can get $45-$50 for reselling a used game a couple weeks after it's come out. Tons of people buy them new, beat them, flip them and hardly end up any $$$ out of their pocket.

If you are one of those people then it's worse, but how many of those gamers wouldn't rush through the game if they knew it wasn't a depreciating asset? Also after eBay/PayPal fees it probably costs them almost $30 for the game anyway.

 

[cstu]

I still think there is potential for the xbox family-share/friend-share game system. A 10-member "family" that all have full time access to the game? How does it work exactly? Being able to share digital (?) games with friends from your friends list? Seems pretty awesome for anyone who has a close group of online friends.

If you've got friends who've been on your list for 30 days you can effectively split the cost of a game by installing the game on your Xbox and giving them the disc.

IMO this is actually better than selling used games for people who buy new games, presuming you can find one of your friends who want to split the cost. Who it hurts is the person who likes to buy a game after a year or so for $10.

I guess my questions are this:

1. Who can go on my 10-person family list, and how?

2. Does the 10-person family list have 24/7 access to my purchased games, and can we play at the same time?

3. What are the game loan restrictions that you mention? Is that only physical disc games or is that digital as well?

1/2 - There are two separate things going on - you can 'gift' the game to anyone on your friends list (unlimited number) as long as they've been on for 30 days. That person could play the game at the same time you are playing the game.

The 10 person family list are people who can play your games however only one person can play your games at one time. It's not clear yet if the same game can be played at the same time by two different people. This one sounds great but you have to trust the people you are giving access to since they will need to log into your account.

3 - With the friends sharing you have to give them the actual disc. I'm not clear if you have to do the same thing with those on your family list.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Future eXboxer here.

 

[Slapdash]

Sony really did a great job yesterday. Still not sure if I am getting one, but there is no way I am getting XB1. It will be sad to lose Halo, but 343 has been a big let-down anyways.

 

[Slapdash]

How to share games on the Playstation 4

I was literally

 

[Worm]

I still think there is potential for the xbox family-share/friend-share game system. A 10-member "family" that all have full time access to the game? How does it work exactly? Being able to share digital (?) games with friends from your friends list? Seems pretty awesome for anyone who has a close group of online friends.

If you've got friends who've been on your list for 30 days you can effectively split the cost of a game by installing the game on your Xbox and giving them the disc.

IMO this is actually better than selling used games for people who buy new games, presuming you can find one of your friends who want to split the cost. Who it hurts is the person who likes to buy a game after a year or so for $10.

I guess my questions are this:

1. Who can go on my 10-person family list, and how?

2. Does the 10-person family list have 24/7 access to my purchased games, and can we play at the same time?

3. What are the game loan restrictions that you mention? Is that only physical disc games or is that digital as well?

1/2 - There are two separate things going on - you can 'gift' the game to anyone on your friends list (unlimited number) as long as they've been on for 30 days. That person could play the game at the same time you are playing the game.

The 10 person family list are people who can play your games however only one person can play your games at one time. It's not clear yet if the same game can be played at the same time by two different people. This one sounds great but you have to trust the people you are giving access to since they will need to log into your account.

3 - With the friends sharing you have to give them the actual disc. I'm not clear if you have to do the same thing with those on your family list.

- re: gifting... are you sure? That doesn't sound right. That means I can buy any new game for basically half price if I have a friend that is also getting it?

- yeah still need clarification on the 10 person family

- are "sharing" and "gifting" not the same? have they clarified those are two different things? (link?)

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

So has there been any M$ reaction? Do they have any events today?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

you can 'gift' the game to anyone on your friends list (unlimited number) as long as they've been on for 30 days. That person could play the game at the same time you are playing the game.

Where did you hear the bolded part? That doesn't seem likely to me.

 

[Slapdash]

Is the PlayStation Network really that bad? I have always had a frustrating amount of issues using XBL anyways.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Honestly, other than a few games, my PS3 basically collected dust. I originally bought it for MLB the show and metal gear solid 4. But other than that, I basically had to go out of my way to find games I was interested in. I ended up buying some sports games on it just so I could say I was using it. Total waste of money in the long run. The xbox 360 is better in just about every way. Better controller, better dashboard, better online experience, better exclusives, more of my friends are on it, etc.

But Sony is just absolutely murdering MS in the PR war for next gen.

There are reasons more people (especially in America) ended up on X360 over PS3 that aren't going to happen next gen.

But now that PSN is doing a bit better (supposedly) and everyone starts off on a $399 vs. $499 + $20/month basis, I have no doubt that $399 is going to win.

 

[Slapdash]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

 

[gandalas]

you can 'gift' the game to anyone on your friends list (unlimited number) as long as they've been on for 30 days. That person could play the game at the same time you are playing the game.

Where did you hear the bolded part? That doesn't seem likely to me.

Yeah, I would think that if you "gift" the game, then you no longer have access to it under your account.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Is the PlayStation Network really that bad? I have always had a frustrating amount of issues using XBL anyways.

I think it's just a matter of getting used to it. Being that I do 99% of my online gaming on the Xbox it's always really frustrating when I log onto PSN. I get an "invite" from a friend and I always spend the first couple minutes trying to figure out how the heck to "accept" it, forgetting that this concept doesn't really exist on the PSN (at least in the games I've played). I don't think there's such thing as a PSN "invite". Each game has its own invite system that you have to be in-game to accept, so a PSN "invite" is just basically a hack that just sends message saying "hey your buddy playing UC3 sent you an invite in that game, go ahead and log in to that game and find it in the menus there and you can see the invite".

No party chat is a killer for me because I use the heck out of that the way I play, though it looks like the PS4 will have it. I imagine the above issue will be sorted out with the PS4 as well. I think Sony just threw PSN together as a bullet point to match XBL without realizing how huge a part of the gaming ecosystem these networks were going to become, and they've sort of hacked things together sloppily ever since then. Building a new version from the ground up, knowing its importance, on the PS4 I'm pretty confident they'll do it well. Mandatory PS+ should help with that too.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

$499 + $20/month

WTF you talking 'bout, Larry?

 

[Jobber]

Is the PlayStation Network really that bad? I have always had a frustrating amount of issues using XBL anyways.

My bad PS3 wifi card aside, yes it sucks. I was attempting to connect to Multiplayer Uncharted (can't recall which one, UC2 or UC3) recently. Basically you pop in the disc, choose Multiplayer and you should be good right? Nope. I got prompted for some kind of key to enter to be able to play online for that particular game. It wasn't Sony, but the game developer. I have no key, and tried for a few minutes to google how to find one. No luck, so I gave up.

So no, the PSN online isn't even close to Xbox Live. It's not a nice seamless experience where you have any multiplayer game and it just connects without hassle.

 

[cstu]

you can 'gift' the game to anyone on your friends list (unlimited number) as long as they've been on for 30 days. That person could play the game at the same time you are playing the game.

Where did you hear the bolded part? That doesn't seem likely to me.

Yeah, I would think that if you "gift" the game, then you no longer have access to it under your account.

Perhaps I'm wrong about that. It seems odd that they'd limit it to people in your friends list then.

The way I read it was that the person you gifted it to wouldn't be able to install the game, only play from the disc. That's the reason I thought two people would be able to play at the same time.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Can someone unpack this? Hard to tell if they mean all XB1 games will actually have dedicated servers (by mandate), or if they're making their servers available for all games to use (and if it's the latter, is it free for devs or do they have to lease them from MS).

Perhaps most intriguing, however, is that Xbox One gives game developers the ability to access Microsoft’s Azure cloud computing platform. That leads to a few obvious and immediate applications: All your downloaded and installed games and achievements are synced to the cloud and can be accessed and played without interruption on any Xbox One you sign in to; stable, dedicated servers for every multiplayer game rather than the notoriously fragile practice of hosting matches on one participant’s console; even multiplayer matches that can grow to 64, even 128 participants, rather than the usual limit of 16 or 32.

 

[culdeus]

Yeah, I'm starting to think Xbox is looking like Sega at this point.

The online multiplayer seems to be the only thing the 1 can still maybe hold up as a large advantage.

This seems like Sony pushing all in. I had no idea just how much they got murdered in the last go-round. The game division didn't make profit for any quarter, ever. The PS3 only just now standing alone made a whisper of a profit but got eaten up by psp2 or whatever they are on handheld wise.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it...

Mario Kart 8

Super Mario World U (3D mario)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game)

Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that.

But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it...

Mario Kart 8

Super Mario World U (3D mario)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game)

Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that.

But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

 

[larry_boy_44]

$499 + $20/month

WTF you talking 'bout, Larry?

me typing too fast and deciding to put down what I remember my brother paying for XBox live instead of looking it up.

But since Sony is charging now, too (and seemingly similar), that won't matter.

 

[bshell27]

Xbox has done a few things right, beefed up their network and they have been aggressive locking up exclusives and Xbox first releases.

Cod - Xbox first

BF- Xbox first now

Titanfall- exclusive

Halo- exclusive

They have all of the bigger franchises locked up. I am a casual gamer. I don't play RPG or much else other than FPS. I buy the game and don't need used games. My console is always plugged in. If they spy on me with the kinect they will hear crickets and see nothing but my empty chair as it sits upstairs in my office and the only time I'm up there is to game.

All in all, I see more benefit in Xbox despite the higher price and restrictions on trading in games.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

How to share games on the Playstation 4

I was literally

I am confused. I can't do this with 10 of my friends can I?

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Xbox has done a few things right, beefed up their network and they have been aggressive locking up exclusives and Xbox first releases.Cod - Xbox firstBF- Xbox first nowTitanfall- exclusiveHalo- exclusiveThey have all of the bigger franchises locked up. I am a casual gamer. I don't play RPG or much else other than FPS. I buy the game and don't need used games. My console is always plugged in. If they spy on me with the kinect they will hear crickets and see nothing but my empty chair as it sits upstairs in my office and the only time I'm up there is to game.All in all, I see more benefit in Xbox despite the higher price and restrictions on trading in games.

Just to be clear, Titanfall is PC and X1 exclusive

 

[Worm]

How to share games on the Playstation 4

I was literally

I am confused. I can't do this with 10 of my friends can I?

Microsoft would be extremely well served to have a reply video showing "This is how to share a game on XB1" with a guy clicking a "share" button on the dashboard.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm betting that the guys at MSFT can't conceive of someone actually having 10 real-life friends to share something with.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it...

Mario Kart 8

Super Mario World U (3D mario)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game)

Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that.

But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

They put out new stuff all the time... Everyone then immediately asks them when the next Mario/Zelda/DK/Metroid/etc. game comes out.

The thing is that they can fund whole systems based on those base Nintendo franchises, and it doesn't look like that is ever going to end.

But they have created some new things that worked. Pikmin and Animal Crossing are both pretty decent (Pikmin I've played and like, Animal Crossing i have no idea on). They still have Fire Emblem and the Wars series.

And they just announced Mega Man was gonna be in the new Smash Bros., so that's cool

 

[bshell27]

Just to be clear, Titanfall is PC and X1 exclusive

Quite right. I was looking at it more console vs console. I'm not a PC gamer.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Can someone unpack this? Hard to tell if they mean all XB1 games will actually have dedicated servers (by mandate), or if they're making their servers available for all games to use (and if it's the latter, is it free for devs or do they have to lease them from MS).

Perhaps most intriguing, however, is that Xbox One gives game developers the ability to access Microsofts Azure cloud computing platform. That leads to a few obvious and immediate applications: All your downloaded and installed games and achievements are synced to the cloud and can be accessed and played without interruption on any Xbox One you sign in to; stable, dedicated servers for every multiplayer game rather than the notoriously fragile practice of hosting matches on one participants console; even multiplayer matches that can grow to 64, even 128 participants, rather than the usual limit of 16 or 32.

This will be interesting if it's true. It seems like that could create all sorts of messes for cross platform games like COD and Battlefield.Either the developers will have to code for 2 completely different multiplayer connection models (a HUGE task), or they'll have to code for different servers. I have to imagine that option 1 wouldn't even really be a legitimate option. So the other possibility if MS forces their own dedicated servers is and Sony doesn't, is the developer leasing their own servers and forcing PS4 users to pay an additional fee of some type to play multiplayer online.

 

[Worm]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it...

Mario Kart 8

Super Mario World U (3D mario)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game)

Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that.

But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

They put out new stuff all the time... Everyone then immediately asks them when the next Mario/Zelda/DK/Metroid/etc. game comes out.

The thing is that they can fund whole systems based on those base Nintendo franchises, and it doesn't look like that is ever going to end.

But they have created some new things that worked. Pikmin and Animal Crossing are both pretty decent (Pikmin I've played and like, Animal Crossing i have no idea on). They still have Fire Emblem and the Wars series.

And they just announced Mega Man was gonna be in the new Smash Bros., so that's cool

Sorry Larry, Nintendo is done.

 

[biggamer3]

Add another one to the future ex xboxer club. Unless xbox stops their ridiculous used game restrictions, Sony is my next system.

 

[Slapdash]

Is the PlayStation Network really that bad? I have always had a frustrating amount of issues using XBL anyways.

I think it's just a matter of getting used to it. Being that I do 99% of my online gaming on the Xbox it's always really frustrating when I log onto PSN. I get an "invite" from a friend and I always spend the first couple minutes trying to figure out how the heck to "accept" it, forgetting that this concept doesn't really exist on the PSN (at least in the games I've played). I don't think there's such thing as a PSN "invite". Each game has its own invite system that you have to be in-game to accept, so a PSN "invite" is just basically a hack that just sends message saying "hey your buddy playing UC3 sent you an invite in that game, go ahead and log in to that game and find it in the menus there and you can see the invite".

No party chat is a killer for me because I use the heck out of that the way I play, though it looks like the PS4 will have it. I imagine the above issue will be sorted out with the PS4 as well. I think Sony just threw PSN together as a bullet point to match XBL without realizing how huge a part of the gaming ecosystem these networks were going to become, and they've sort of hacked things together sloppily ever since then. Building a new version from the ground up, knowing its importance, on the PS4 I'm pretty confident they'll do it well. Mandatory PS+ should help with that too.

Is the PlayStation Network really that bad? I have always had a frustrating amount of issues using XBL anyways.

My bad PS3 wifi card aside, yes it sucks. I was attempting to connect to Multiplayer Uncharted (can't recall which one, UC2 or UC3) recently. Basically you pop in the disc, choose Multiplayer and you should be good right? Nope. I got prompted for some kind of key to enter to be able to play online for that particular game. It wasn't Sony, but the game developer. I have no key, and tried for a few minutes to google how to find one. No luck, so I gave up.

So no, the PSN online isn't even close to Xbox Live. It's not a nice seamless experience where you have any multiplayer game and it just connects without hassle.

Thanks for the input guys. I do like party chat so I agree that blows. Hopefully the put it on the next go round.

Doesn't sound like you guys are noting any performance issues. That would be my biggest concern.

 

[jwb]

How to share games on the Playstation 4

I was literally

I am confused. I can't do this with 10 of my friends can I?

Microsoft would be extremely well served to have a reply video showing "This is how to share a game on XB1" with a guy clicking a "share" button on the dashboard.

It blows my mind how they could leave these things so unclear.

 

[hxperson]

Is the PlayStation Network really that bad? I have always had a frustrating amount of issues using XBL anyways.

No party chat makes multiplayer gaming infinitly less enjoyable. They dropped the ball horribly there, partly I suspect because they were a bit myopic about who the typical PS2 gamer was. It is a cultural problem that Sony is constantly guilty of (see mp3 player/minidisc, viao laptops, mobile phones, etc.) - always concerned about who the customer is, rather than who it is going to be.

 

[thecatch]

Sony really did a great job yesterday. Still not sure if I am getting one, but there is no way I am getting XB1. It will be sad to lose Halo, but 343 has been a big let-down anyways.

I thought halo 4 was fantastic. Frankly, I've played the major PS3 exclusives and they just don't stack up with the Halo series in terms of my personal enjoyment (when factoring in multiplayer etc), so that would make a PS4 switch extremely difficult for me.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it...

Mario Kart 8

Super Mario World U (3D mario)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game)

Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that.

But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

They put out new stuff all the time... Everyone then immediately asks them when the next Mario/Zelda/DK/Metroid/etc. game comes out.

The thing is that they can fund whole systems based on those base Nintendo franchises, and it doesn't look like that is ever going to end.

But they have created some new things that worked. Pikmin and Animal Crossing are both pretty decent (Pikmin I've played and like, Animal Crossing i have no idea on). They still have Fire Emblem and the Wars series.

And they just announced Mega Man was gonna be in the new Smash Bros., so that's cool

Sorry Larry, Nintendo is done.

get back to me when someone other than Nintendo is making a profit. Even with bad sales, Nintendo is still making money, companies that make money don't go under.

Microsoft and Sony are both, typically, losing money on video games and subsidizing this with all of their other things.

I'm not worried about Nintendo going under.

 

[Worm]

How to share games on the Playstation 4

I was literally

I am confused. I can't do this with 10 of my friends can I?

Microsoft would be extremely well served to have a reply video showing "This is how to share a game on XB1" with a guy clicking a "share" button on the dashboard.

It blows my mind how they could leave these things so unclear.

Same here. Either 1) they were waiting for Sony to announce full details, and ended up blundering it and executing extremely poorly, or 2) they don't know WTF the actual policies are yet, and ended up blundering it and executing extremely poorly.

 

[Slapdash]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it...

Mario Kart 8

Super Mario World U (3D mario)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game)

Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that.

But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

They put out new stuff all the time... Everyone then immediately asks them when the next Mario/Zelda/DK/Metroid/etc. game comes out.

The thing is that they can fund whole systems based on those base Nintendo franchises, and it doesn't look like that is ever going to end.

But they have created some new things that worked. Pikmin and Animal Crossing are both pretty decent (Pikmin I've played and like, Animal Crossing i have no idea on). They still have Fire Emblem and the Wars series.

And they just announced Mega Man was gonna be in the new Smash Bros., so that's cool

Never got into Pikmin or AC much. Always good to play another Mario Cart and Smash Bros.

If it isn't broke, why fix it?

 

[Slapdash]

Sony really did a great job yesterday. Still not sure if I am getting one, but there is no way I am getting XB1. It will be sad to lose Halo, but 343 has been a big let-down anyways.

I thought halo 4 was fantastic. Frankly, I've played the major PS3 exclusives and they just don't stack up with the Halo series in terms of my personal enjoyment (when factoring in multiplayer etc), so that would make a PS4 switch extremely difficult for me.

I had a lot of fun with Halo 4 online, but its gameplay was different in a bad way.

 

[Insein]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it... Mario Kart 8Super Mario World U (3D mario)Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game) Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that. But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

Nintendo has always been if it aint broke don't fix it. They just keep finding new ways to give you the same old and it works.

 

[Worm]

The negative XB1 press is just absolutely steamrolling downhill at full speed. They need to get someone in front of a mic, or issue a press release ASAP.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I suppose that's true. Nintendo is the comfort food of the gaming industry.

I personally find Mario Party/Donky Kong/Smash Bros./Zelda/Pokemon/Kart anything to be tear inducing boring.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Doesn't sound like you guys are noting any performance issues. That would be my biggest concern.

The only performance issues I had were that downloads (especially updates) seemed to take MUCH longer on the PS3 than the 360 for me.In-game I didn't really notice a difference. However, if it's true that the XB1 will have dedicated servers for all MP games while PS4 games are still predominately P2P, there could be a much bigger difference this go-around. Not sure how true the story is about dedicated servers on the XB1 though.

 

[Slapdash]

I suppose that's true. Nintendo is the comfort food of the gaming industry.

I personally find Mario Party/Donky Kong/Smash Bros./Zelda/Pokemon/Kart anything to be tear inducing boring.

I can see that angle for the platformers, but the multiplayer games are always very well done and a blast to play with friends. Even things like Mario Super Strikers.

 

[Fennis]

Maybe I should just stick with my PC + WiiU plan. How has E3 been going for Nintendo, Larry?

Nintendo Direct right now, but I can't watch it...

Mario Kart 8

Super Mario World U (3D mario)

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Retro Studios game)

Smash Bros. is coming probably last... I'm super excited about that.

But I can't see anything 'cuz their site doesn't work at my job...

I can smell the dust from here. Are these guys ever going to come up with something new?

They put out new stuff all the time... Everyone then immediately asks them when the next Mario/Zelda/DK/Metroid/etc. game comes out.

The thing is that they can fund whole systems based on those base Nintendo franchises, and it doesn't look like that is ever going to end.

But they have created some new things that worked. Pikmin and Animal Crossing are both pretty decent (Pikmin I've played and like, Animal Crossing i have no idea on). They still have Fire Emblem and the Wars series.

And they just announced Mega Man was gonna be in the new Smash Bros., so that's cool

Sorry Larry, Nintendo is done.

get back to me when someone other than Nintendo is making a profit. Even with bad sales, Nintendo is still making money, companies that make money don't go under.

Microsoft and Sony are both, typically, losing money on video games and subsidizing this with all of their other things.

I'm not worried about Nintendo going under.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/04/26/nintendos-530-million-loss

 

[Worm]

Not sure how true the story is about ... XB1 [insert policy here].

I'm sensing a pattern...