Fennis
Footballguy
Is this the rumors you are talking about?
http://gamerant.com/resident-evil-ps4-xbox-one-specs-identical/
http://gamerant.com/resident-evil-ps4-xbox-one-specs-identical/
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
***official*** all things Microsoft Xbox One (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter wazoo11
- Start date
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
can you link some of this, I am very interested
Frank Drebin
Footballguy
He's referring to this...
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/10/well-that-escalated-quickly/
There is a rumor flying that the Xbox One version of COD Ghosts runs at 720p while the PS4 version runs at 1080p. Nothing confirmed of course, but that's never stopped the innerwebs from crucifying something before.
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/10/well-that-escalated-quickly/
There is a rumor flying that the Xbox One version of COD Ghosts runs at 720p while the PS4 version runs at 1080p. Nothing confirmed of course, but that's never stopped the innerwebs from crucifying something before.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Right. Also, Battlefield is "rumored" to be 720 on Xbox and 900 on PS4. The sneer quotes are there on "rumored" because this has been confirmed by multiple independent sources in the industry who have no reason to lie.
I know you're one of the guys who won't read Gaf, but those folks have been consistently breaking news and getting right all year. If you followed Gaf, you knew about the DRM situation, the specs gap, and now this. If you relied instead on press releases from Microsoft (or Sony for that matter) you've spent the past bunch of months in the dark and mostly misinformed.
Frank Drebin
Footballguy
Fair enough. I don't read GAF. I know they've broken a lot of stories there, but I barely keep up with the stuff I want to follow around here. The articles I've read have been mostly rumor and speculation, but that has been mostly on the more mainstream gaming sites.
Jobber
Footballguy
You're quite a console warrior, Ivan. Jeez, this isn't a political election. Anyway...rumors abound about both consoles these days. I can rattle off a few for your entertainment. Though number 2 is not a rumor.
1. Arthur Gies tweet hinting that the PS4 version of BF4 may not be able to run 64-player multi. https://twitter.com/aegies/status/394278804614434816
2. Kevin Dent posts on GAF regarding the Internet blow up today about Sony not allowing anyone access to the retail PS4 prior to launch. As well as Xbox being more dev friendly in that any Xbox can be used as a dev kit, Sony not allowing HDMI game capture, nor EVER allowing any reviewer to capture their own video for reviews. Instead, Sony will provide them with canned gameplay in a controlled environment of Sony's. This one is not a rumor. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87628981&postcount=1056
3.
SlaX
Footballguy
#1 isn't even a question. Both Playstation 4 and XBox One can run 64-player Battlefield 4. In fact, in the link you provided, he's stating that it's the only distinction that makes the Playstation 4 next-gen, in his opinion. He's not questioning or hinting that it can't.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Yeah, Ivan, you know Im a fan of you but I certainly can't take anything you type with regards to consoles seriously as you're as biased as they come.
To be fair I am not saying I'm unbiased. I was certainly in the 360's camp but liek every single new generation I'll go with whichever system is better for my needs. No brand loyalty here. In fact, I'm sorta hoping Sony is better but ONLY if they get the online right.
Worst case scenario is the ONE is underpowered but has the far better online aspect and the Sony is crazy powerful but the online is the crap I read about in the GTAV thread.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
That's the thing -- I'm not actually a console warrior. I opted for the PS4 against the Xbox, but I've posted several times in multiple threads that there are good reasons why a person might reasonably go the other way, and I'm on record that Titanfall is far and away the best system-seller of near-launch titles, with nothing else even close. I was unhappy when Sony announced that online would no longer be free, and I mentioned in the other thread that I'm also unhappy with BF4 not hitting 1080p on PS4. I'm giving BF a little bit of a pass here because it's a bigger and more ambitious game than COD and Killzone -- I'd rather have a 900p BF4 with 64 players than a 1080p KZ with 24 or whatever it is. But really 1080/60 should be standard for next gen titles regardless and I'll be ticked if PS4 games routinely fail to hit that target. You can feel free to quote me on that as often as you'd like.
What prompted this bump last night is that I got called a fanboy for making completely uncontroversial statements that happened to reflect negatively on the Xbox. The first is that it has weaker hardware than the PS4. This has been common knowledge since last spring. I'm not a tech guy, so if people were going to argue about whether Sony's 8GB of RAM was better than Microsoft's 8GB or RAM, I wouldn't be qualified to have an opinion on the matter. But following along with sites like Gaf, where people actually do know what they're talking about, revealed that there's really no argument to be had there. So now that we have two different multiplatform titles running non-trivially better on one console than the other, I think it's fair to say that I was right about this and I wasn't just being a fanboy.
The other point is that every resource going into Kinect is a resource that can't be used elsewhere. Kinect was absolutely a commercial success for Microsoft. It sold a boatload of units and a major selling point for the XB1. Slax is right that from a strategic perspective, Microsoft had a good reason for bundling it with the new Xbox. All I said is that you're not the kind of person who likes Kinect games (and I'm definitely not), it is a net negative for the console because it drains resources that you would have liked to have used someplace else. In this case, it certainly looks like the joint decisions to put Kinect into every SKU and to keep the price point no higher than $500 forced Microsoft to skimp on hardware. It's not like their engineers couldn't have matched the PS4, but they can't match the PS4 and include Kinect and keep the price reasonable. One of those three had to give, and it was hardware.
By all means, feel free to buy an Xbox. It's not like games are going to look like #### on it or anything -- it's a big upgrade over the PS360 era. Enjoy Dead Rising and Titanfall and the other flagships like Halo. Just don't tell me that I'm delusional for stating the obvious. I'm not a console warrior, but I do enjoy following the industry, I like to be right, and I don't like being told that I'm an idiot for posting stuff that is true.
Last edited by a moderator:
OK.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I started to post a response to this, but since you just disregarded a four paragraph explanation of how and why I arrived at my position on some of this stuff, I realized there's no point in typing it up. Enjoy your Xbox. I'm sure you'll be happy with it, and all that really matters is that people buy the hardware and software that fits their personal preferences.
Jobber
Footballguy
Here's the thing. You keep posting this stuff in the Xbox thread. When's the last time you contributed to the PS4 thread?I started to post a response to this, but since you just disregarded a four paragraph explanation of how and why I arrived at my position on some of this stuff, I realized there's no point in typing it up. Enjoy your Xbox. I'm sure you'll be happy with it, and all that really matters is that people buy the hardware and software that fits their personal preferences.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
If the PS4 thread was active, I'd be there. I post all the time in video game related threads. That one is just dead. Sorry.Here's the thing. You keep posting this stuff in the Xbox thread. When's the last time you contributed to the PS4 thread?I started to post a response to this, but since you just disregarded a four paragraph explanation of how and why I arrived at my position on some of this stuff, I realized there's no point in typing it up. Enjoy your Xbox. I'm sure you'll be happy with it, and all that really matters is that people buy the hardware and software that fits their personal preferences.
All you did was continue to state as fact your speculation that you arrived at using limited facts and a clear and apparently unacknowledged case of homerism. It's just as likely the MS just made another design screwup (if your facts are even right) as it is that all the console's problems are the result of this kinect boogeyman you have constructed.I started to post a response to this, but since you just disregarded a four paragraph explanation of how and why I arrived at my position on some of this stuff, I realized there's no point in typing it up. Enjoy your Xbox. I'm sure you'll be happy with it, and all that really matters is that people buy the hardware and software that fits their personal preferences.
Last edited by a moderator:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
That's fine. We're going to see how all this plays out over the next few weeks and months regardless.All you did was continue to state as fact your speculation that you arrived at using limited facts and a clear and apparently unacknowledged case of homerism. It's just as likely the MS just made another design screwup (if your facts are even right) as it is that all the console's problems are the result of this kinect boogeyman you have constructed.I started to post a response to this, but since you just disregarded a four paragraph explanation of how and why I arrived at my position on some of this stuff, I realized there's no point in typing it up. Enjoy your Xbox. I'm sure you'll be happy with it, and all that really matters is that people buy the hardware and software that fits their personal preferences.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Hey now. I've tried to be a good sport about all of this -- no reason to go below the belt. I mean, there are some lines you just don't cross.
and stick to the important stuff?
Sean
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
I'm an XBox fanboy and I don't really see anything IK said that is in dispute. The PS4 does have better hardware. But so did the PS3 and that didn't necessarily mean anything. There were plenty of games that, on the PS3, were inferior graphically or technically or both to their Xbox counterparts. I'm sure the reverse is also true.
ETA: Wasn't referring to his speculation about the Kinect and exclusive titles. The rest was covered on the previous page anyway so whatevs
ETA: Wasn't referring to his speculation about the Kinect and exclusive titles. The rest was covered on the previous page anyway so whatevs
Last edited by a moderator:
Jobber
Footballguy
Now THAT is why the Kinect is included with the X1. The voice commands worked perfectly. And the Skype call where Kinect follows the guy around the room...wow.
Sand
Footballguy
Absolutely. If I can't get the voice of HAL to greet me when I turn my XBone on I'm gonna be pissed.
Now THAT is why the Kinect is included with the X1. The voice commands worked perfectly. And the Skype call where Kinect follows the guy around the room...wow.
The ability to switch faster between applications is pretty nice but none of that Kinect stuff is interesting.
OC Zed
Footballguy
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Thanks for speaking for all of us.
I hope you wont mind if I push back a little- as a guy who isn't a big kinect supporter I liked what I saw .
OC Zed
Footballguy
This probably does nothing for the mid-20s guy who lives alone, but as a parent, I would love being able to use this with my daughter when Skyping with relatives (grandparents, brother, nieces, etc.). Microsoft has said from day one that they want this to be a media center device for the whole family. This is a big element of that.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Look here, Boss, that won't stop me from being a smart ### for the sake of being a smart ###. Bub.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I used to be a big PC guy. I could write some small code. I was fluent in DOS. Fast forward 25 (30) years and I don't use skype. You know why? Cause I have to download it and get all the setting right and then when the mic doesn't work on their end I have to walk them through it and.....
When I saw that I immediately thought to myself ..Oh, wow, I'll actually use skype now."
It isn't anything that cant be done already, but its packaged nicely and more importantly, will work flawlessly, every time more then likely on xbox (which is ironic cause their PC stuff rarely ever works well). I could see all these little extras having major crossover appeal for the dreaded "casual" buyers out there.
ETA - The NFL license will be HUGE if it's exclusive to the ONE.
Last edited by a moderator:
OC Zed
Footballguy
Exactly. And I'm definitely moving into the casual buyer category at this point in my life. I've used my PS3 10x as much for Netflix and Bluray than for actual gaming. That will probably be the case again for me for the next generation of consoles as well.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
Based on the Dark Souls thread I find that a bit hard to believe. Hardly seems casual.Oh no, so am I.
culdeus
Footballguy
Statcruncher
Footballguy
:31 seconds in "magical experience"
1:04 "magic moment"
2:12 "really magical"
4:35 "magical examples"
6:40 "how it's doing some of that magic"
7:31 "create something magic"
:31 seconds in "magical experience"
1:04 "magic moment"
2:12 "really magical"
4:35 "magical examples"
6:40 "how it's doing some of that magic"
7:31 "create something magic"
That sounded so forced.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Moving there he said. I used to buy 20+ new games a year. Now I play Dark Souls A LOT I admit .NCCommish said:Based on the Dark Souls thread I find that a bit hard to believe. Hardly seems casual.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:Oh no, so am I.OC Zed said:
I just started playing NCAA
I'm all but but done with GTAV and really only play when my friends are on.
I'm not buying anything not named Dark Souls II. Unless that bombs I'll play that for at least a year before buying the new system .
Last edited by a moderator:
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I love the idea of being able to switch to apps, etc without actually having to navigate to it.Slapdash said:
"Xbox, Netflix" is much better than guide button->scroll right->scroll right->scroll right->apps->Netflix
What would really be a win is if you can use it to invite people to a party or game. It's a pain to have to navigate through the menus while you're in a multiplayer match to invite someone.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I thought that video did a nice job of showing off the Xbox interface and illustrating its role as an entertainment hub. I don't do a lot of switching back and forth between gaming and television, but I do do a little of that on Sunday afternoons if the late games aren't particularly appealing. But I'd like to have the option to check back in on football without having to switch boxes. Not that it's a huge deal or anything, but the Xbox does do that seamlessly.
I'm not the target audience for the all-in-one hub and I don't see myself ever using Skype, but the UI is definitely slick.
I'm not the target audience for the all-in-one hub and I don't see myself ever using Skype, but the UI is definitely slick.
Fennis
Footballguy
check this out: http://www.homedepot.com/p/STC-RL2000-21-in-Robomower-Robotic-Lawn-Mower-RL2000/203264238?N=c5at#.Un2UTF7TmtUi am officially old.... none of this excites me anymore
belljr
Footballguy
check this out: http://www.homedepot.com/p/STC-RL2000-21-in-Robomower-Robotic-Lawn-Mower-RL2000/203264238?N=c5at#.Un2UTF7TmtUi am officially old.... none of this excites me anymore
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Yea, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't still a serious gamer. I do play a lot less now and I refrain from buying almost everything these days.NCCommish said:Based on the Dark Souls thread I find that a bit hard to believe. Hardly seems casual.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:Oh no, so am I.OC Zed said:Moving there he said. I used to buy 20+ new games a year.Now I play Dark Souls A LOT I admit .
I just started playing NCAA
I'm all but but done with GTAV and really only play when my friends are on.
I'm not buying anything not named Dark Souls II. Unless that bombs I'll play that for at least a year before buying the new system .
