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Pretty sure it was reasonable to expect more than one catch.Did people really expect him to be a WR1/2 every week?
Pretty sure it was reasonable to expect more than one catch.Did people really expect him to be a WR1/2 every week?
Off topic here but I've kinda noticed throughout the years that often times teams 2nd-3rd Wr's tend to have decent games against better defenses. They will shut down the #1 forcing teams to go to their #2's and 3's.You almost have to ignore matchups with these stupid WRs. Last week, the Saints were a terrible matchup on paper. Their pass D was awesome. So of course, Alshon explodes. Tonight, the matchup couldn't have been any sweeter, and he lays a turd. Pick your two or three best WRs and start them every week. It's worth it just to not second-guess yourself constantly.
Going to guess we see a big correction this week on Alshon with Marshall getting his.
Maybe not right at this moment. But there's absolutely no reason that he can't and won't develop into one in the near future. People (myself included) were just playing the hot hand.Did people really expect him to be a WR1/2 every week?
If we learned one thing last night. You don't bet against Marshall during Mental Health Awareness week, and you lower expectations for the guy playing opposite hiim.
The Bears only throw the ball to 4 guys. Every week, one of Marshall, Jeffrey or Bennet will probably be below expectations based on what the defense gives them. Jeffrey's floor is probably what you saw today: 5 targets.
Alshon owners, please come back from the ledge. He was open on two passes that would have been TD's but missed by inches. Had another batted down at the line of scrimmage, and tonight Cutler was trying to keep Marshall happy.
And if owners in your league think like this, then this is a perfect time to try and get Jeffrey.hi eddie royal
Agreed. And if you think like this, time to get your annual eye exam. Expect to get trifocals and quite possibly a punch in the face from your local optometrist if you live in Chicago.And if owners in your league think like this, then this is a perfect time to try and get Jeffrey.hi eddie royal
He's not a fluke. He might be hard to project weekly, but he is a talent.Ballstein said:hi eddie royal
Not even close. You clearly haven't watched both play.Ballstein said:hi eddie royal
I call it chasing pointsShamrockPride said:Maybe not right at this moment. But there's absolutely no reason that he can't and won't develop into one in the near future. People (myself included) were just playing the hot hand.RushHour said:Did people really expect him to be a WR1/2 every week?
You take each game as it comes. He had a great matchup last night, they just went to different guys. Unless you had 3 top 10 WRs to go with ahead of him, he was pretty much a must start last night.I call it chasing pointsShamrockPride said:Maybe not right at this moment. But there's absolutely no reason that he can't and won't develop into one in the near future. People (myself included) were just playing the hot hand.RushHour said:Did people really expect him to be a WR1/2 every week?
I need you to start him weekly as I own Marshall. Thanks for the help.Guys, there's a simple expectation for his numbers last night. I started him in both leagues I owned him - just like I did weeks 1, 2 and 3. Of course I sat him weeks 4 and 5.
So if you want to know how he'll do just ask me if I'm starting him.
I need you to start him weekly as I own Marshall. Thanks for the help.Guys, there's a simple expectation for his numbers last night. I started him in both leagues I owned him - just like I did weeks 1, 2 and 3. Of course I sat him weeks 4 and 5.
So if you want to know how he'll do just ask me if I'm starting him.
The Chicago Bears relied on Brandon Marshall so much last season that he was targeted on roughly 40 percent of his quarterback's passes. No NFL wide receiver came within seven percentage points of Marshall's figure.
Through seven games this season, Marshall is not even leading his team in receiving yards. Second-year breakout star Alshon Jeffery actually is tied with Eric Decker of the Denver Broncos for the most receiving yards in the league over the past five weeks. Jeffery has 561 receiving yards on the season compared with 540 for Marshall.
Jeffery's emergence as one of the NFL's premier downfield threats led Gregg Rosenthal to ask NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell if Jeffery might be every bit as good as Marshall.
Cosell told the "Around The League Podcast" that "ability-wise" it's not crazy to believe Jeffery is on Marshall's level, but he has to prove it over time.
"I happen to know some people down at South Carolina, and I remember talking to their offensive staff," Cosell added. "They told me that if he could keep his weight down, he would have a chance to be a special receiver. ... I think Jeffery is a very talented kid."
Jeffery has been a complete receiver this season, moving the chains and excelling as a vertical threat. One unexpected contribution is his playmaking ability on end-arounds, as shown in the highlight package to the right. Thanks in part to those 88 yards on six rushing attempts, Jeffery leads all NFL receivers in yards from scrimmage.
It sounded like hyperbole when Marshall declared earlier this month that Jeffery has the potential to become the greatest receiver in Bears history. Now it doesn't seem so far-fetched.
The "Around The League Podcast" spoke with NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell on Wednesday. Click here to listen and subscribe.
I'd still take the Three New Amigos in Denver... and you could argue any two of them that include J Thomas would be right up there, if not the best. Personally, I think J Thomas and Welker if you have to go down to two, because of their range of skills.Aside from Julio/Roddy, is their a better 1-2 punch in the league than Alshon/BMarsh?
Alshon Jeffery caught nine passes for 114 yards in Week 10 against the Lions.
Jeffery was targeted a game-high 18 times, six more looks than Brandon Marshall saw from Jay Cutler and Josh McCown. Jeffery could have had a bigger day, but he was stripped of a 14-yard touchdown when officials deemed he bobbled the ball out of bounds. It was Jeffery's fourth 100-yard game of the season, with two of them coming against Detroit. He's a legitimate WR2. The Bears and Jeffery take on the Ravens next weekend.
Oof.I think Bloom is going to regret that comment.I got dogged by Bloom on the audible for making him the 2nd WR off the board after Blackmon in my dynasty league. Called him "nothing more than a jump ball specialist." I don't even need him to play this year. Wouldn't be surprised to hear those two talked up as the best receiver tandem outside of ATL heading into 2013.
yeah working out with marshall really changed him. luckily i got him a lot of dynasty startups this summer once i realized the error of my waysOof.I think Bloom is going to regret that comment.I got dogged by Bloom on the audible for making him the 2nd WR off the board after Blackmon in my dynasty league. Called him "nothing more than a jump ball specialist." I don't even need him to play this year. Wouldn't be surprised to hear those two talked up as the best receiver tandem outside of ATL heading into 2013.
I only saw one of the drops, but it was very close to an amazing catch. So that wasn't cause for concern.This guy is way better than I thought he would be. He's going to be a stud. Dropped a couple tds today, though.
I agree with this. He's as good as Blackmon but without the baggage. He's not quite to Dez's level yet but he's getting there and again, no baggage.There aren't many young receivers I'd rather have in dynasty.
X3- Top 5 (if staying healthy) by end of next season. Maybe mid-season.I agree with this. He's as good as Blackmon but without the baggage. He's not quite to Dez's level yet but he's getting there and again, no baggage.There aren't many young receivers I'd rather have in dynasty.
Marshall's presence helps more than it hurts. Jeffery will never draw the opposing team's best corner.Because of the pure ability of Marshall (meaning hall of fame level ability) we could see a bit of a delay before Alshon can meet his ceiling.
Jeffery was the one who was double teamed last week, not Marshall. I found that really interesting.Marshall's presence helps more than it hurts. Jeffery will never draw the opposing team's best corner.Because of the pure ability of Marshall (meaning hall of fame level ability) we could see a bit of a delay before Alshon can meet his ceiling.
Is that right? Hmmm.Jeffery was the one who was double teamed last week, not Marshall. I found that really interesting.Marshall's presence helps more than it hurts. Jeffery will never draw the opposing team's best corner.Because of the pure ability of Marshall (meaning hall of fame level ability) we could see a bit of a delay before Alshon can meet his ceiling.
Yup, even the color commentary guy on the broadcast noted it.Is that right? Hmmm.Jeffery was the one who was double teamed last week, not Marshall. I found that really interesting.Marshall's presence helps more than it hurts. Jeffery will never draw the opposing team's best corner.Because of the pure ability of Marshall (meaning hall of fame level ability) we could see a bit of a delay before Alshon can meet his ceiling.
I just traded for Jeffery yesterday, and this thread helped in my thoughts about it. My hope is that he can be a top 15 PPR WR for the rest of the year.Thoughts on Alshon ROS? It seems to me Cutler tends to lean on either Marshall or Jeffery (depending on who the D tries to take away?), while McCown throws at Marshall a ton regardless.
Yes. Andre Ellington will be playing for me because of this.Anyone else considering benching Alshon based on concerns about the weather?
Maybe if I have a viable option. Discounting him 20% based on the weather.Anyone else considering benching Alshon based on concerns about the weather?
I have no qualms putting him out there everywhere I have him. All ppr leagues though. A lot of his catches are shorter with YAC.Maybe if I have a viable option. Discounting him 20% based on the weather.Anyone else considering benching Alshon based on concerns about the weather?
I'm leaving him in. my next option would be Percy Harvin, but I want to wait and see him play before using him.Anyone else considering benching Alshon based on concerns about the weather?