analog_hiss
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Right after he decided RB2 wasn't good enough for him.
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shining path
:prettyplease:
Gloria "Lucrecia" Borger
And Ari Fleischer looks like a straight up thug. Jesus.
And Ari Fleischer looks like a straight up thug. Jesus.
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Death Bytes
Footballguy
If someone had predicted two months ago that Clinton wouldn't win 10 states on Super Tuesday, I would have said they're nuts! Clinton has inertia, but Obama is accelerating hard.Because of the unique mechanics of this, it can be both. Obama is going to be trailing in delegates. He's going to need to tell a story. The story to tell is that he won 12 or however many primaries. At the same time, that story wouldn't have mattered if this had been a winner take all event and he had lost Mass, NY, NJ, and California. By the same token, if Barack had lost every primary by only 2 or 3 percentage points, then maybe he would be still competitive on delegates. But Clinton could tell a very compelling story about momentum. That she won 22 primaries.Despite what was being reported after Iowa, Obama has to win this thing in the fourth quarter if he's going to do it. It looks like he'll at least be in the game.It's all about the delegate counts at this point. It would have been great for him to win the popular vote, but he can still do really well in the # of delegates.I'm psyched about the Mizzou turnaround.#### Cali....
Which is it? Missouri will basically break even on delegates. Either it's a big win and California is a disappointment or the net delegate count won't be that bad for Obama when factoring in California and Missouri.
scoobygang
Footballguy
Note to CNN. If you're going to broadcast in HD, don't let Larry King anchor.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
I agree with some of the commentators who are saying tonight is basically a tie - but the tie goes to Obama.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
MSNBC calling Missouri for Obama
LHUCKS
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Damn middle America doesn't get it.Obama gets Missouri
shining path
:prettyplease:
Obama gets Alaska now, too. Getting the votes where the people aren't.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
I take it backDamn middle America doesn't get it.Obama gets Missouri
LHUCKS
Footballguy
CNN reporting that all of Edwards rural America votes are going to Obama.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
That brings NC into play for Obama!
Mark Davis
Footballguy
And winning a lot of Republican states (Utah, Alabama, Georgia, Alaska, Kansas)
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Death Bytes
Footballguy
That's been a strategy that's won the republicans the past couple presidential races. Maybe he gets it?
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
MSNBC estimates that the delegate count is going to be almost exactly a tie for the night. I'm going to bed.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Where are you finding these numbers?
NCCommish
Footballguy
If that's the count range Obama won.
scoobygang
Footballguy
Agaisnt Hilary Clinton. I'm not sure how compelling this argument is. Barack Obama will do better in Utah! We'll only lose by seven points. Missouri matters. Maybe Kansas could be in play. But I'm not sure I care which Dem is most competive in Alaska or Utah.
shining path
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A tie delegate count would be an immense Obama victory, wouldn't it?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
MSNBC is projecting...this ##### is going down to the wire.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Maybe the nomination. If Obama does win, I'll lay even money he doesn't win a single state out of Alaska, Kansas, Utah, Alabama, and Georgia come November. He's got to improve in the more Democratic leaning states. That said, McCain must improve in the Republican leaning states. The fact the majority of his wins are coming in states that will vote Democratic has to be troubling to Republicans.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Definitely a good sign to win 13 of 22 states.
scoobygang
Footballguy
Ah, the return of Campbell Brown. Who knew Shiny was a [Word that won't fly here]Hunter?
shining path
:prettyplease:
Campbell Brown just back from maternity leave. I guess that puts that fantasy to bed. Birthy stuff is gross.
shining path
:prettyplease:
Death of a dream, buddy, death of a dream.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
If that's accurate. I can't find an outlet showing any count that high yet for either candidate. I don't see how that much ground could have been made up tonight to draw into a virtual tie.
Death Bytes
Footballguy
She's gotta be pissed about that.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
We had some Clinton supporters suggesting that Obama was only going to win 2 states tonight. I can't wait to see the spin as they try to turn the night into being all about California, Mass, and NY/NJ.
Death Bytes
Footballguy
I don't see why. You aren't really suggesting that those states will go red if Hillary isn't nominated are you?
scoobygang
Footballguy
Wine country for Obama. If we can get Starbucks to award delegates, we'll be set.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Latest count I just saw was:
Clinton 624
Obama 518
That's the highest count for either candidate I've seen out there. I don't know how accurate that is.
Clinton 624
Obama 518
That's the highest count for either candidate I've seen out there. I don't know how accurate that is.
ffldrew
Footballguy
Big night for Obama - a tie for the night in delegates, big money coming in, and favorable states on the near term calendar.
Louisiana and Washington on Saturday
Virginia and Maryland next week
He takes at least three out of 4 or all 4 and that will be good momentum until the March elections, he is going to raise a ton of cash for February, much more than Hillary and it will set the narrative for Texas and Ohio. He really needs to find someone to help him carry Texas and that someone has to be in with Hispanic voters.
Louisiana and Washington on Saturday
Virginia and Maryland next week
He takes at least three out of 4 or all 4 and that will be good momentum until the March elections, he is going to raise a ton of cash for February, much more than Hillary and it will set the narrative for Texas and Ohio. He really needs to find someone to help him carry Texas and that someone has to be in with Hispanic voters.
shining path
:prettyplease:
The ArcticEdge canvassing effect.
trader jake
Footballguy
Big night for Obama. 
Better numbers in Mass and Cali would have been nice but overall tonight was exactly what Barack needed to win the nomination.
Better numbers in Mass and Cali would have been nice but overall tonight was exactly what Barack needed to win the nomination.
scoobygang
Footballguy
If it ends up that close, then we're going to be hearing alot about those Florida and Michigan delegates in the coming weeks.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
...and the f'ing super delegates.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Already starting.
Death Bytes
Footballguy
Well, maybe those Obama supporters who supported Gore's post election efforts will now begin to see why changing the rules after the fact is not a good thing.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Please let's not confuse legitimate questions about vote counts with voters that were told they wouldn't count if they moved up their primary. Voters need to take it out on the state party.
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Fixed.Damn middle America folks who think the entire planet lives within 50 miles of an ocean doesn't get it.Obama gets Missouri
Chadstroma
Footballguy
If Obama fails to win the nomination it will because he failed to get the Hispanic vote.
trader jake
Footballguy
No doubt Barack still has an issue with a deficit in superdelegates and a problem with seating of Michigan and Florida at the convention. However he has closed to gap ever so slightly with women and Latino voters against Hillary. Also, he should have an advantage moving forward raising money (even w/ $0 from lobbyists) and the way the primaries remaining line up he could yet pull this off. Wow.
We have a tie moving forward...but momentum is once again with Barack Obama.
We have a tie moving forward...but momentum is once again with Barack Obama.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Like I said earlier...if they count those delegates, I will start burning #### down.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
But was that not the point of the 'undecided' votes in Michigan that those votes could go to Obama?
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
I think after today though, the only place it will matter is in Texas. AZ, NM, CA, and CO are all water under the bridge...I don't see much more harm coming from the Latino bloc.
