Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (1 Viewer)

[Mingooch]

long term dynasty I love Hyde. Even more than Sankey. In my league I pick #2 and 3, I am anticipating getting Evans and Hyde in the rookie draft

 

[cstu]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

So you think Sankey is on an equivalent talent plane as Gio?

I think Gio is more talented, but how much more I'm not sure. To my eyes Gio has much better lateral agility and I've seen that only occasionally from Sankey. My support of Sankey is partially what I see in him right now and partially what how much he can improve in the NFL.

 

[Ilov80s]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

So you think Sankey is on an equivalent talent plane as Gio?

I think Gio is more talented, but how much more I'm not sure. To my eyes Gio has much better lateral agility and I've seen that only occasionally from Sankey. My support of Sankey is partially what I see in him right now and partially what how much he can improve in the NFL.

Keep in mind that down the stretch last year, BGE had more production and a higher than Gio.

 

[Noah Davis]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

So you think Sankey is on an equivalent talent plane as Gio?

I think Gio is more talented, but how much more I'm not sure. To my eyes Gio has much better lateral agility and I've seen that only occasionally from Sankey. My support of Sankey is partially what I see in him right now and partially what how much he can improve in the NFL.

Keep in mind that down the stretch last year, BGE had more production and a higher than Gio.

By down the stretch do you mean those additional 4 games the NFL plays over the college schedule? Sankey has to overcome that same wall.

 

[Ilov80s]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

So you think Sankey is on an equivalent talent plane as Gio?

I think Gio is more talented, but how much more I'm not sure. To my eyes Gio has much better lateral agility and I've seen that only occasionally from Sankey. My support of Sankey is partially what I see in him right now and partially what how much he can improve in the NFL.

Keep in mind that down the stretch last year, BGE had more production and a higher than Gio.

By down the stretch do you mean those additional 4 games the NFL plays over the college schedule? Sankey has to overcome that same wall.

It was over the last 5 games. I'm not a big Sankey supporter and you are right there might be a walk college RBs hit. My point was just that I'm not sure Gio is as talented as some people make him to be.

 

[Noah Davis]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

So you think Sankey is on an equivalent talent plane as Gio?

I think Gio is more talented, but how much more I'm not sure. To my eyes Gio has much better lateral agility and I've seen that only occasionally from Sankey. My support of Sankey is partially what I see in him right now and partially what how much he can improve in the NFL.

Keep in mind that down the stretch last year, BGE had more production and a higher than Gio.

By down the stretch do you mean those additional 4 games the NFL plays over the college schedule? Sankey has to overcome that same wall.

It was over the last 5 games. I'm not a big Sankey supporter and you are right there might be a walk college RBs hit. My point was just that I'm not sure Gio is as talented as some people make him to be.

I'd put Gio on par with Shane Vereen, Sankey I would put on par with Leon Washington.

 

[cstu]

Sankey I would put on par with Leon Washington.

That's utterly ridiculous for a bunch of reasons.

 

[jurb26]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

I don't care about the stats. I care that Sankey isn't on the field at all early in games with the first team.

 

[cstu]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

I don't care about the stats. I care that Sankey isn't on the field at all early in games with the first team.

We'll find out Saturday where he stands with that.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Check out his playoff games. Thanks.

I did.

He didn't lead his team in rushing or touches in either '09 or '10. During those 6 playoff games, he had 2 good games, 1 average game, and 3 poor games. I don't see how his regular season roles were "significant" factors in getting to the playoffs/AFCC, nor do I see how having 1/2 his playoff games being poor performances would indicate he played a "significant" role in the Jets "success."

At the risk of getting into a semantics based (and meaningless) discussion, what I said was "Jets went to two AFC championship games with Shonn Greene playing a significant role". So the two "bad" games (one of which he left injured, but was running real well) both occurred in the AFC championship game, and are thus not relevant to getting the team to that game.

2010 Playoffs

NYJ 24 Bengals 14: 135 yards rushing, 1 TD

NYJ 17 Chargers 14: 128 yards rushing, 1 TD

2011 Playoffs

NYJ 17 Colts 16: 70 yards rushing

NYJ 28 Patriots 21: 76 yards rushing, 1 TD

Those look like stat line's that had real significance in what were tight playoff games.

Anyway, yes during those regular seasons he played a secondary role to two veterans, Thomas Jones and LaDanlian Tomlinson, but since both offenses were run based and at or near the top of the league in rushing yards his role could be considered "significant" to the team's success.

However, my response to the original post probably wasn't all that relevant anyway, because at 29 years old, Greene has seen his better days. So you win. Crack open a beer and celebrate.

 

[mbuehner]

His size and running style remind me of Tiki Barber in his early days. But Tiki bulked up and brought some power into his game before he became an elite all around back.

 

[Brewtown]

As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.

Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards

I don't care about the stats. I care that Sankey isn't on the field at all early in games with the first team.

Coaches flip the switch just before the regular season all the time!Cool your jets!

 

[Brewtown]

Big game tonight for Sankey. He needs some 1st team reps. Without 1st team reps and the opportunity to show what he can do tonight there may be a waiting game on him being unleashed this season....

I think tonight's the night!

 

[jurb26]

Big game tonight for Sankey. He needs some 1st team reps. Without 1st team reps and the opportunity to show what he can do tonight there may be a waiting game on him being unleashed this season....

I think tonight's the night!

I hope so. I want to see what this kid's got vs. real competition.

 

[Ilov80s]

Big game tonight for Sankey. He needs some 1st team reps. Without 1st team reps and the opportunity to show what he can do tonight there may be a waiting game on him being unleashed this season....

I think tonight's the night!

I hope so. I want to see what this kid's got vs. real competition.

Me too. I had no plans to draft him, but he just fell so far into my lap that I had to take the plunge. I really need to see something from him.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Definitely troubling that Sankey is not getting any touches with the first team for his immediate fantasy value early in the season. Greene is sucking too which should bode well for Sankey getting more touches sooner than later.

 

[Brewtown]

Shonne Green just biffed in pass protection... Very badly!!!!

 

[ponchsox]

Sankey's ADP is pure insanity. Why would anyone trust this guy as a RB2?

 

[bagger]

Definitely troubling that Sankey is not getting any touches with the first team for his immediate fantasy value early in the season. Greene is sucking too which should bode well for Sankey getting more touches sooner than later.

or Mccluster.

 

[Brewtown]

Definitely troubling that Sankey is not getting any touches with the first team for his immediate fantasy value early in the season. Greene is sucking too which should bode well for Sankey getting more touches sooner than later.

or Mccluster.

Does anyone really think that McCluster is standing in the way of somebody?

Yes - this guy named Bagger...

 

[SameSongNDance]

Definitely troubling that Sankey is not getting any touches with the first team for his immediate fantasy value early in the season. Greene is sucking too which should bode well for Sankey getting more touches sooner than later.

or Mccluster.

Does anyone really think that McCluster is standing in the way of somebody?

Yes - this guy named Bagger...

The TEN coaching staff atm.

 

[RenegadeGM]

Definitely troubling that Sankey is not getting any touches with the first team for his immediate fantasy value early in the season. Greene is sucking too which should bode well for Sankey getting more touches sooner than later.

or Mccluster.

Does anyone really think that McCluster is standing in the way of somebody?

Yes - this guy named Bagger...

Kevin Hart?

 

[Brewtown]

Here comes the Bishop!

 

[Brewtown]

Really nice run/spin move there...

 

[Brewtown]

Mettenberger looks like a stud!

 

[buck naked]

Definitely troubling that Sankey is not getting any touches with the first team for his immediate fantasy value early in the season. Greene is sucking too which should bode well for Sankey getting more touches sooner than later.

or Mccluster.

Does anyone really think that McCluster is standing in the way of somebody?

Yes - this guy named Bagger...

You cannot honestly spin tonight's pecking order in RBs in any way other than bad for Sankey. He ONLY played in the second half. This is shaping up very poorly for him.

I really wish you were right, as I wanted Sankey to grab ahold of this job. BUt it is definitely not going to happen, at least at the beginning of this year.

 

[Ilov80s]

Definitely troubling that Sankey is not getting any touches with the first team for his immediate fantasy value early in the season. Greene is sucking too which should bode well for Sankey getting more touches sooner than later.

or Mccluster.

Does anyone really think that McCluster is standing in the way of somebody?

Yes - this guy named Bagger...

You cannot honestly spin tonight's pecking order in RBs in any way other than bad for Sankey. He ONLY played in the second half. This is shaping up very poorly for him.

I really wish you were right, as I wanted Sankey to grab ahold of this job. BUt it is definitely not going to happen, at least at the beginning of this year.

It looks like Sankey might not have much value until the 2nd half of the year. I am not sure how anyone can say otherwise.

 

[gump]

TD

 

[Brewtown]

Explodes up the middle for a Tuddy!!!!!!

 

[Ilov80s]

Explodes, lol

 

[Brewtown]

That's what you need!!!!!

 

[EBF]

It looks like Sankey might not have much value

Fixed.

His August dynasty ADP on DLF is RB15. Ahead of...Lynch, Michael, T-Rich, Hyde, Gerhart, Mathews, Bush, West, Mason, A Williams, Bryce Brown, Mark Ingram, and other superior dynasty backs. If I owned him anywhere, I'd cash out and make him somebody else's problem. There's an argument that he'll win the job during the season and pump up his stock into the top 10 dynasty backs, but I haven't liked what I've seen so far and he's been unable to claim the starting job even though this staff made him the #1 RB in the draft and his only competition has been Greene and McCluster. Not good.

If you loved him at UW and you think he looks legit then that's your prerogative, but I'm not seeing it.

 

[Brewtown]

Take that McCluster lovers!!!!

And Greene lovers if there are any remaining....

Sankey ran right up the gut!!!! He has a nose for the end zone - look at the TDs he had in the PAC 10...

 

[Brewtown]

EBF - go back to bashing Kelvin Benjamin and Mike Evans....

Where are your pre-draft rookie rankings again? They seem to be missing from your signature...???

 

[buck naked]

Take that McCluster lovers!!!!

And Greene lovers if there are any remaining....

Sankey ran right up the gut!!!! He has a nose for the end zone - look at the TDs he had in the PAC 10...

Feel free to stake your fantasy season on him. Draft him in the 4th round and ride him to 3 - 11 record.

 

[bagger]

Take that McCluster lovers!!!!

And Greene lovers if there are any remaining....

Sankey ran right up the gut!!!! He has a nose for the end zone - look at the TDs he had in the PAC 10...

way to outperform another RB with an adp in the 16th round.Against the teams 3rd string defense.

 

[Ilov80s]

It looks like Sankey might not have much value

Fixed.

His August dynasty ADP on DLF is RB15. Ahead of...Lynch, Michael, T-Rich, Hyde, Gerhart, Mathews, Bush, West, Mason, A Williams, Bryce Brown, Mark Ingram, and other superior dynasty backs. If I owned him anywhere, I'd cash out and make him somebody else's problem. There's an argument that he'll win the job during the season and pump up his stock into the top 10 dynasty backs, but I haven't liked what I've seen so far and he's been unable to claim the starting job even though this staff made him the #1 RB in the draft and his only competition has been Greene and McCluster. Not good.

If you loved him at UW and you think he looks legit then that's your prerogative, but I'm not seeing it.

Yeah, I was looking at it from a redraft POV. He fell pretty far in my draft, so I don't think anyone is hot on him (including me). I think I just have to hold and hope.

 

[Brewtown]

My advice for fantasy players that want to win: don't stray from Sankey!!!!!

Keep the faith - talent don't lie!!!

 

[Brewtown]

Sankey scored a TD in 15 straight games at Washington...

No need to remove him at the stripe!!!

 

[Ilov80s]

Sankey scored a TD in 15 straight games at Washington...

No need to remove him at the stripe!!!

Are you alright?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Aneurism alert.

 

[Brewtown]

Sankey scored a TD in 15 straight games at Washington...

No need to remove him at the stripe!!!

Are you alright?

I'm good - you?

 

[Ilov80s]

Sankey scored a TD in 15 straight games at Washington...

No need to remove him at the stripe!!!

Are you alright?

I'm good - you?

Yes, you just seem to be pushing the entire Sankey train all by yourself right now.

 

[bagger]

Sankey scored a TD in 15 straight games at Washington...

No need to remove him at the stripe!!!

Are you alright?

I'm good - you?

how many drinks are you in?

 

[Brewtown]

Sankey scored a TD in 15 straight games at Washington...

No need to remove him at the stripe!!!

Are you alright?

I'm good - you?

Yes, you just seem to be pushing the entire Sankey train all by yourself right now.

Ok... If you say so...

 

[Brewtown]

Sankey scored a TD in 15 straight games at Washington...

No need to remove him at the stripe!!!

Are you alright?

I'm good - you?

how many drinks are you in?

Honestly, about 6....

But that is very common... Those outside of Wisconsin would not understand.

Sankey is a stud! I've seen all that I need to....

 

[KellysHeroes]

was wondering why he wasn't in w/ the starters

 

[SameSongNDance]

I think it's odd they didn't run him with the starters once this preseason to find out what they were really working with.

 

[Brewtown]

Was wondering the same thing myself...

Wouldn't be surprised if he was announced as starting RB just before week 1...

 

[SameSongNDance]

Was wondering the same thing myself...

Wouldn't be surprised if he was announced as starting RB just before week 1...

I don't think that's quite how it works and is why I'll be passing on him in the 5th. If he falls and I can stash him I'm on board but that's about it.