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Official CJ Spiller (1 Viewer)

3RD ROUND ?!

Wow, that amazes me. The DD has him going anywhere from around 5th - 6th. He's fallen to at least the 5th in just about all mocks I've done. Was hoping the surgery may have pushed him down a little further still. If you get 1RB beast early, another solid one around 4th-5th, then Spiller begins to become a lot more attractive a punt at around the 6th/7th.
I think his adp is going to go up again to at least 4th ADP in PPR.

 
3RD ROUND ?!

Wow, that amazes me. The DD has him going anywhere from around 5th - 6th. He's fallen to at least the 5th in just about all mocks I've done. Was hoping the surgery may have pushed him down a little further still. If you get 1RB beast early, another solid one around 4th-5th, then Spiller begins to become a lot more attractive a punt at around the 6th/7th.
I think his adp is going to go up again to at least 4th ADP in PPR.
Yeah sorry I'm non ppr.

 
3RD ROUND ?!

Wow, that amazes me. The DD has him going anywhere from around 5th - 6th. He's fallen to at least the 5th in just about all mocks I've done. Was hoping the surgery may have pushed him down a little further still. If you get 1RB beast early, another solid one around 4th-5th, then Spiller begins to become a lot more attractive a punt at around the 6th/7th.
I think his adp is going to go up again to at least 4th ADP in PPR.
Yeah sorry I'm non ppr.
oh ... ok ... now there's 3 of you. :P

 
Any other thoughts on Spiller? I don't think he should fall to the fifth in PPR. While he is injury prone as suggested by his history, he has good upside. He is dynamic and could get a long gain on any play. He might even be used more in the rushing game than some think. Spiller was a 3rd round pick in PPR before the clean up. If he can get straight back to work then a 4th is good value.

 
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Could he pick up where Sproles left off a few years ago? Sure.

But, this cat has been a huge disappointment year after year. I'd be ok taking him 5th or 6th round. The boom potential is there, but because of his injury history anything before those rounds is just too risky for me in my big money leagues.

That said, from a fan's perspective, I would love to see what he could do in that offense/dome if he can stay healthy.

 
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Could he pick up where Sproles left off a few years ago? Sure.

But, this cat has been a huge disappointment year after year. I'd be ok taking him 5th or 6th round. The boom potential is there, but because of his injury history anything before those rounds is just too risky for me in my big money leagues.

That said, from a fan's perspective, I would love to see what he could do in that offense/dome if he can stay healthy.
The myth of his "injury history" has been addressed more than a couple times.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Fantasysports1 said:
His current ADP suggests 2nd round in PPR formats, 3rd round for standard. We believe that's a pretty fair assessment.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Dude I didn't write that. That was from the source.

From sportsinjurypredictor.com :

2015 NFL Knee : Spiller needed a clean up scope on his knee during the preseason

2014 NFL Upperarm : Spiller fractured his clavicle in week 7 and required season ending surgery. He was placed on IR

2013 NFL Leg : Spiller had to leave the game due to a helmet hitting his thigh. It shouldn't be serious and he is expected back in week 4

2013 : NFL Ankle Spiller hurt his ankle and had to leave the game. It didn't affect him too badly as he was able to play the next week

 
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matuski said:
HurryUpSundays said:
Could he pick up where Sproles left off a few years ago? Sure.

But, this cat has been a huge disappointment year after year. I'd be ok taking him 5th or 6th round. The boom potential is there, but because of his injury history anything before those rounds is just too risky for me in my big money leagues.

That said, from a fan's perspective, I would love to see what he could do in that offense/dome if he can stay healthy.
The myth of his "injury history" has been addressed more than a couple times.
What about the "myth" of him being a huge disappointment? Year after year.

 
matuski said:
HurryUpSundays said:
Could he pick up where Sproles left off a few years ago? Sure.

But, this cat has been a huge disappointment year after year. I'd be ok taking him 5th or 6th round. The boom potential is there, but because of his injury history anything before those rounds is just too risky for me in my big money leagues.

That said, from a fan's perspective, I would love to see what he could do in that offense/dome if he can stay healthy.
The myth of his "injury history" has been addressed more than a couple times.
What about the "myth" of him being a huge disappointment? Year after year.
Year after year would also be a myth.. but that claim would be a new one on me.

 
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HurryUpSundays said:
Could he pick up where Sproles left off a few years ago? Sure.

But, this cat has been a huge disappointment year after year. I'd be ok taking him 5th or 6th round. The boom potential is there, but because of his injury history anything before those rounds is just too risky for me in my big money leagues.

That said, from a fan's perspective, I would love to see what he could do in that offense/dome if he can stay healthy.
Yeah, you should go with Foster, or Benjamin.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Fantasysports1 said:
His current ADP suggests 2nd round in PPR formats, 3rd round for standard. We believe that's a pretty fair assessment.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Dude I didn't write that. That was from the source.

From sportsinjurypredictor.com :

2015 NFL Knee : Spiller needed a clean up scope on his knee during the preseason

2014 NFL Upperarm : Spiller fractured his clavicle in week 7 and required season ending surgery. He was placed on IR

2013 NFL Leg : Spiller had to leave the game due to a helmet hitting his thigh. It shouldn't be serious and he is expected back in week 4

2013 : NFL Ankle Spiller hurt his ankle and had to leave the game. It didn't affect him too badly as he was able to play the next week
Removed your name. ;)

:lol: at the SIP site and algorithm.

 
Report: Saints running back C.J. Spiller to miss first two weeks of season?

http://whodatdish.com/2015/08/27/saints-c-j-spiller-miss-first-two-weeks-of-season/
Ouch. I have my first money draft tomorrow and this really changes my draft strategy now...I was set on taking him in the fifth round range.

If given the choice, at this point what presents a better bet in PPR leagues at this point....Spiller with this "all of a sudden" 2 week thing or Foster with his newly reduced return timeline.

For WR early guys like myself this one kind of stings....he had the makings of a prototype PPR fantasy back. Now you have to wonder if those "1-2" weeks doesn't turn into 4, 5 or 6 weeks.

 
Report: Saints running back C.J. Spiller to miss first two weeks of season?

http://whodatdish.com/2015/08/27/saints-c-j-spiller-miss-first-two-weeks-of-season/
Ouch. I have my first money draft tomorrow and this really changes my draft strategy now...I was set on taking him in the fifth round range.

If given the choice, at this point what presents a better bet in PPR leagues at this point....Spiller with this "all of a sudden" 2 week thing or Foster with his newly reduced return timeline.

For WR early guys like myself this one kind of stings....he had the makings of a prototype PPR fantasy back. Now you have to wonder if those "1-2" weeks doesn't turn into 4, 5 or 6 weeks.
I think this news might save you if you now avoid him.

 
Report: Saints running back C.J. Spiller to miss first two weeks of season?

http://whodatdish.com/2015/08/27/saints-c-j-spiller-miss-first-two-weeks-of-season/
Ouch. I have my first money draft tomorrow and this really changes my draft strategy now...I was set on taking him in the fifth round range.

If given the choice, at this point what presents a better bet in PPR leagues at this point....Spiller with this "all of a sudden" 2 week thing or Foster with his newly reduced return timeline.

For WR early guys like myself this one kind of stings....he had the makings of a prototype PPR fantasy back. Now you have to wonder if those "1-2" weeks doesn't turn into 4, 5 or 6 weeks.
It was reported almost 2 weeks ago that spiller was having the scope on the knee. This isn't an all of a sudden thing. I drafted aware he may be pushing it to be ready to go week 1. It's a very minor thing, would be shocked if it turned into 6 weeks.
 
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Report: Saints running back C.J. Spiller to miss first two weeks of season?

http://whodatdish.com/2015/08/27/saints-c-j-spiller-miss-first-two-weeks-of-season/
Ouch. I have my first money draft tomorrow and this really changes my draft strategy now...I was set on taking him in the fifth round range.

If given the choice, at this point what presents a better bet in PPR leagues at this point....Spiller with this "all of a sudden" 2 week thing or Foster with his newly reduced return timeline.

For WR early guys like myself this one kind of stings....he had the makings of a prototype PPR fantasy back. Now you have to wonder if those "1-2" weeks doesn't turn into 4, 5 or 6 weeks.
It was reported almost 2 weeks ago that spiller was having the scope on the knee. This isn't an all of a sudden thing. I drafted aware he may be pushing it to be ready to go week 1. It's a very minor thing, would be shocked if it turned into 6 weeks.
This rumor is the only news out on him in the last week. Should push top ten in PPR if he is healthy all season, but a big question mark for week one.

 
No he's not, Khiry was dinged for PS game 3, Hightower was just filling his role IMO. My point is they could use Murphy in Spiller's role in the passing game if need be and give Spiller an extra week of rest.

 
Report: Saints running back C.J. Spiller to miss first two weeks of season?

http://whodatdish.com/2015/08/27/saints-c-j-spiller-miss-first-two-weeks-of-season/
Ouch. I have my first money draft tomorrow and this really changes my draft strategy now...I was set on taking him in the fifth round range.

If given the choice, at this point what presents a better bet in PPR leagues at this point....Spiller with this "all of a sudden" 2 week thing or Foster with his newly reduced return timeline.

For WR early guys like myself this one kind of stings....he had the makings of a prototype PPR fantasy back. Now you have to wonder if those "1-2" weeks doesn't turn into 4, 5 or 6 weeks.
I think this news might save you if you now avoid him.
Took CJ at the 6.3 in my 12 team PPR re-draft league yesterday. Worth the risk at that point...

 
When he's healthy, Spiller will also be returning kickoffs and punts, right? This is my first year doing return yardage points...

 
The Saints won't change their game plan much, expect a lot of Marcus Murphy.
He battled for the last spot on the 53 man. What is your definition of a lot?
I shouldn't have said "a lot", I can't say that so people rely on it. It's just speculation, my guess is they use Murphy in the pass catching role. They have 4 WRs and he looked very good and natural in that role during the preseason. Something to watch I'd say.

 
When he's healthy, Spiller will also be returning kickoffs and punts, right? This is my first year doing return yardage points...
All these Spiller fans and I can't get a yes or a no on this? Google isn't good at the phrase punt and kickoff returns.

 
The Saints won't change their game plan much, expect a lot of Marcus Murphy.
He battled for the last spot on the 53 man. What is your definition of a lot?
I shouldn't have said "a lot", I can't say that so people rely on it. It's just speculation, my guess is they use Murphy in the pass catching role. They have 4 WRs and he looked very good and natural in that role during the preseason. Something to watch I'd say.
I wouldn't expect him to get much at all considering Ingram proved plenty effective catching the ball out of the back field in the preseason.

 
When he's healthy, Spiller will also be returning kickoffs and punts, right? This is my first year doing return yardage points...
All these Spiller fans and I can't get a yes or a no on this? Google isn't good at the phrase punt and kickoff returns.
The FBG Depth Charts are FREE and indicate which players are slated to handle both PR and KR duties.

HTH

 
When he's healthy, Spiller will also be returning kickoffs and punts, right? This is my first year doing return yardage points...
You'll probably have better luck asking in the punt and kick returner thread as most people in the individual player threads just worry about the offensive stuff.

Saints haven't been clear that I've seen on who will handle returns. Preseason, Spiller and Cooks were on the depth chart for it and they still haven't changed their depth chart from that. Murphy has looked great in preseason and my guess is that we see both he and Spiller doing returns when both are healthy, unless one guy vastly outperforms the other. I don't think Cooks will see much unless there are injuries. Those are just my hunches though.

 
Khiry and CJ are completely different types of players. If anything would happen to Ingram, who would be the player to own?

 
When he's healthy, Spiller will also be returning kickoffs and punts, right? This is my first year doing return yardage points...
All these Spiller fans and I can't get a yes or a no on this? Google isn't good at the phrase punt and kickoff returns.
The FBG Depth Charts are FREE and indicate which players are slated to handle both PR and KR duties.

HTH
Good answer! I know that Ive seen the IDP section cover ALL returners w/ some discussion. For the most part, on the offensive side of the ball it usually means a player isn't seeing many actual snaps.. If he see a lot of snaps, then sometimes another player takes return duty..

Id suggest researching all the Rookies, and looking up info like: Which position usually covers punts, and which covers kickoffs? WR/RB

http://theadvocate.com/sports/saints/13314498-123/marcus-murphy-leaves-strong-impression

*(imho) Murphy is the designated return man.. IF for some reason hes inactive, then ya may see CJ on kickoffs (per somewhat current Team depthchart)

What I personally suggest is looking for a WR (Rookie)who is known for his returns skillz.

Do you know if LaMichael James is rostered? (imho) He might get returns and some snaps (temporarily?).

But, honestly research things and find a WR!!

 
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The Saints signed and then cut Hightower, which I think is a good sign, Payton did not mention Spiller in the morning presser, which I also think is good. I will post a practice update if I hear it.

 
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What are peoples expectations for him and Ingram moving forward? I own both, but not feeling good about it. Feel like I'm doomed to always start the wrong one.

 
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Drew Brees on practice field, when asked about Spiller as the next Bush/Sproles today.... said (paraphrasing) everyone is missing the boat on just how good Ingram is at catching and protection.
http://www.neworleanssaints.com/news-and-events/article-deshazier/John-DeShazier-Mark-Ingram-proves-that-hes-a-factor-in-Saints-passing-game/98c2d5be-8bf7-49bb-a2e3-17847bcc76c3

With 8 catches for 98 yards on a team high 9 targets, it looks like Brees was being pretty damn honest. His 12.25 yards per catch is a phenomenal average.

 
Drew Brees on practice field, when asked about Spiller as the next Bush/Sproles today.... said (paraphrasing) everyone is missing the boat on just how good Ingram is at catching and protection.
http://www.neworleanssaints.com/news-and-events/article-deshazier/John-DeShazier-Mark-Ingram-proves-that-hes-a-factor-in-Saints-passing-game/98c2d5be-8bf7-49bb-a2e3-17847bcc76c3

With 8 catches for 98 yards on a team high 9 targets, it looks like Brees was being pretty damn honest. His 12.25 yards per catch is a phenomenal average.
He has gotten a lot better. A lot. The ypc is based on a big 63 yarder that he took down the sidelines, OTOH a Sproles or (I'm betting) Spiller would have taken it to the house.

 
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The Saints infamously traded Jimmy Graham for Brian Unger. Well one thing that's become clear is that Unger is a fantastic downfield blocker and he pairs up really well with Armstead in that way. The screen should be back in a big way in the NO offense, it already was vs AZ.

 
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What are peoples expectations for him and Ingram moving forward? I own both, but not feeling good about it. Feel like I'm doomed to always start the wrong one.
When the Payton Saints have had a true satellite back--Reggie Bush in his early years, Sproles in his 3 seasons--that back has seen about 6-7 targets a game. I think that's about what Spiller sees weekly. Carry-wise, somewhere between 6 and 10, probably dependent on game flow. I basically think he gets the workload Robinson got last week.

I'm expecting Ingram to get about the same amount of touches as the 17 he got last week, but for many more of them to be rushes than receptions. I could see either guy losing some work if Robinson continues to rotate in, but I think his skillset would be more likely to impact Ingram than Spiller.

 

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