*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (13 Viewers)

[LawFitz]

Australia sees a 17% increase in deaths from heart attacks and experts are dumbfounded suspect everything but the vaccine.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1617225724640854016

The first thing I would suspect is the COVID virus itself.

Why not suspect both? Oh yeah, because it's too scary. Carry on.

Because the virus is highly more likely to be the cause.

Sorry, but you don't know that to be true.

But you know it's the vaccines. Got it.

I didn't say that. You and your bros here keep saying I said it. But I've maintained all along a willingness to consider that Long Covid may also be a causal factor at play.

Difference between you and I is that I am considering all possibilities, vax included.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I brought my wife up to speed on the Hamlin debacle too. He's dead from the vaccine...just a body double at this point. She was asking if I'd heard any new info on his status because she hadn't so I had to break the bad news to her.

What if Russell Wilson died suddenly from the vaccine back in July and had to be replaced with a body double so that nobody was the wiser? That would explain a lot of the Broncos' season to be honest.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

In New York, the hospitalizations peaked on 1/3 and have come down at a nice clip since then. Interestingly, the peaks in 2021 and 2022 occurred almost at the same time: 1/19 in 2021 and 1/11 in 2022. Regionally, there appears to be a seasonal pattern that seems pretty clear now with 3 years worth of data available (not counting 2020 as measurements didn't begin in earnest until the end of March).

The idea of an annual shot, similar to the flu, that has been proposed recently seems like a wise approach. Hopefully manufacturers can work on developing formulas that cover multiple strains, and importantly recent strains. Also, looking at the age and comorbidity data, folks over 50 and folks with the key conditions should be the target audience. Frankly, for folks under say 40 years old that don't have any of the comorbidities associated with worse outcomes for COVID, they can probably skip it for the most part. Individual choices armed with good information seems to be where we are now. And that's a relatively pretty good place to be, IMO, compared to when this all started.

NYS Hospitalizations

 

[Scoresman]

Australia sees a 17% increase in deaths from heart attacks and experts are dumbfounded suspect everything but the vaccine.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1617225724640854016

The first thing I would suspect is the COVID virus itself.

Why not suspect both? Oh yeah, because it's too scary. Carry on.

Because the virus is highly more likely to be the cause.

Sorry, but you don't know that to be true.

But you know it's the vaccines. Got it.

I didn't say that. You and your bros here keep saying I said it. But I've maintained all along a willingness to consider that Long Covid may also be a causal factor at play.

Difference between you and I is that I am considering all possibilities, vax included.

This is all you need to read to understand my (and I assume many others') position. You're considering a possibility based on disinformation.

The science (and business) behind COVID-19 disinformation. And what to do about it.

Rumors around COVID-19 vaccines and death, like the Died Suddenly video we highlighted earlier this week, aren’t random.

yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com

 

[LawFitz]

Australia sees a 17% increase in deaths from heart attacks and experts are dumbfounded suspect everything but the vaccine.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1617225724640854016

The first thing I would suspect is the COVID virus itself.

Why not suspect both? Oh yeah, because it's too scary. Carry on.

Because the virus is highly more likely to be the cause.

Sorry, but you don't know that to be true.

But you know it's the vaccines. Got it.

I didn't say that. You and your bros here keep saying I said it. But I've maintained all along a willingness to consider that Long Covid may also be a causal factor at play.

Difference between you and I is that I am considering all possibilities, vax included.

This is all you need to read to understand my (and I assume many others') position. You're considering a possibility based on disinformation.

The science (and business) behind COVID-19 disinformation. And what to do about it.

Rumors around COVID-19 vaccines and death, like the Died Suddenly video we highlighted earlier this week, aren’t random.

yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com

I've read that article. It's a completely one-sided and short-sighted summary of the prevailing (but steadily declining) narratives. Good luck with it.

 

[The Commish]

@Scoresman No offense GB, but you need to get with the program...so does YLE. There is a completely NEW list out there they're running with these days. That list you provided is old news my man! "You can't stop them, you can only hope to contain them" and even THAT is a tall order in this day and age of social media where in the minds of many watching a youtube video on topic X is the SME equivalent of years of academic study/research/data collection on topic X.

 

[Scoresman]

@Scoresman No offense GB, but you need to get with the program...so does YLE. There is a completely NEW list out there they're running with these days. That list you provided is old news my man! "You can't stop them, you can only hope to contain them" and even THAT is a tall order in this day and age of social media where in the minds of many watching a youtube video on topic X is the SME equivalent of years of academic study/research/data collection on topic X.

Don't worry. My guns are clean and ready.

 

[LawFitz]

Convenient...

"Vaccine status of cases admitted to hospital, admitted to ICU and those who die will no longer be reported." - NSW Health

https://twitter.com/i/status/1615517708526977026

 

[The Commish]

Not for nothing but a rather large list of states, including Florida, stopped reporting months ago. Not sure what this particular decision would be newsworthy. Maybe it's really true that Ron D is in control of the entire COVID narrative and he's slowly working his way through all the different healthcare networks forcing them to bend the knee.

 

[LawFitz]

Meanwhile, the drumbeat grows significantly louder in Japan...

Japan Launches Official Investigation Into Millions of COVID Vaccine Deaths​

Hiroshima University School of Medicine Prof. Masataka Nagao highlighted how the bodies of vaccinated persons he performed autopsies on were abnormally warm, with upwards of 100 degree F body temperatures.

“The first concern was that the body temperatures of the corpses were very high when the police performed the autopsy,” Nagao declared.

Graphing the data, Nagao’s research team found there were significant changes to the genetic makeup of vaccinated autopsied patients’ immune systems.

The research has led Nagao to conclude the vaccine causes immune system abnormalities that prompt inflammation throughout the body, which is likely the cause of the high body temperatures at the time of autopsy.

“People are already doing research all over the world,” Fukushima told health ministers during a conference earlier this month. “Japan’s prestige is at stake. You have vaccinated so many people. And yet, only 10% of the members of the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, who are leading members of the vaccine campaign have been vaccinated. Is this a ****ing joke?”

Japan Launches Official Investigation Into Millions of COVID Vaccine Deaths

Japan has launched an official investigation into the unprecedented numbers of people dying after receiving the Covid-19 vaccination.

newspunch.com

 

[LawFitz]

Meanwhile, the drumbeat grows significantly louder in Japan...

Japan Launches Official Investigation Into Millions of COVID Vaccine Deaths​

Hiroshima University School of Medicine Prof. Masataka Nagao highlighted how the bodies of vaccinated persons he performed autopsies on were abnormally warm, with upwards of 100 degree F body temperatures.

“The first concern was that the body temperatures of the corpses were very high when the police performed the autopsy,” Nagao declared.

Graphing the data, Nagao’s research team found there were significant changes to the genetic makeup of vaccinated autopsied patients’ immune systems.

The research has led Nagao to conclude the vaccine causes immune system abnormalities that prompt inflammation throughout the body, which is likely the cause of the high body temperatures at the time of autopsy.

“People are already doing research all over the world,” Fukushima told health ministers during a conference earlier this month. “Japan’s prestige is at stake. You have vaccinated so many people. And yet, only 10% of the members of the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, who are leading members of the vaccine campaign have been vaccinated. Is this a ****ing joke?”

Japan Launches Official Investigation Into Millions of COVID Vaccine Deaths

Japan has launched an official investigation into the unprecedented numbers of people dying after receiving the Covid-19 vaccination.

newspunch.com

That is an interesting site! I now have a plethora of stuff to check out instead of working here. I do like that they have that double fact checked logo on all their articles so I know. Some of my saved articles to review are now:

Farmers Warn Millions of Chickens Have Been Poisoned as Part of Globalist ‘Food Crisis’ Plot​

Ukraine’s Nazi Azov Regiment Taken Off Meta- Facebook’s Dangerous Organizations List​

Elon Musk Caught Supplying WEF With Mind Control Chips To Enslave Humanity​

6-Month-Old Baby Dies “Suddenly” After Receiving Four Vaccines – Doctors Baffled​

Scientists Warn Eggs Are Causing Thousands of People to ‘Suddenly’ Form Blood Clots​

German Gov’t Bombshell: ‘Alarming Number of Vaccinated Are Developing AIDS’​

Canadian Officials Warn ‘After Flu Season Comes Stroke Season’​

Top Scientist Says “Covid mRNA Vaccines Should Be Withdrawn Immediately”​

Pfizer CEO Trembles With Fear As Crowd Chant ‘Murderer’ During Davos Visit​

Official Study: COVID Boosters Result in Complete Collapse of the Immune System​

Pfizer Told To Compensate Millions of Americans Damaged by Their COVID Vaccines​

Some older stories...

2015 -U.S. And Russia Prepare For World War Three In Syria​

2015 - Could This Be A Case Of Spontaneous Human Combustion?​

2017 - Federal Judge Drops Prosecution Bombshell About Obama​

2017 - Journal Of American Medical Association: FDA Drugs Are Dangerous​

Maybe just focus on the one article detailing what is happening in Japan. Thanks.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Individual choices armed with good information seems to be where we are now. And that's a relatively pretty good place to be, IMO, compared to when this all started.

Let's not forget that it took us three years to arrive at this point.

 

[LawFitz]

Official Study: COVID Boosters Result in Complete Collapse of the Immune System​

Actually, I take back my last post. This story was very interesting as well. The referenced study is pointing to signs of apparent ADE in vaxxed individuals, which was a problem with the original mRNA vax trials in animals during the pre-Covid era. ADE stands for Antibody-Dependent Enhancement, and refers to when a vaccine actually makes a person more susceptible to subsequent infections of variant viruses, basically due to a screwed up immune system. Conspiracy Theorists claimed in 2020 that ADE was a long-term risk of these experimental mRNA vaxxes. Very interesting indeed.

 

[AAABatteries]

Individual choices armed with good information seems to be where we are now. And that's a relatively pretty good place to be, IMO, compared to when this all started.

Let's not forget that it took us three years to arrive at this point.

Given what we were facing I honestly have no sense of whether that is good or bad. I mean only the nuttiest among us don’t consider this to have been a global pandemic - not a ton of those going around and for us to compare to. I for one am still ecstatic at the relative speed we were able to finalize the vaccine and get it to us to essentially assure we wouldn’t die. I totally agree red tape, messaging and bureaucratic ineptitude has impacted the overall story but I’m ultimately pleased with how this has gone.

 

[The Commish]

Individual choices armed with good information seems to be where we are now. And that's a relatively pretty good place to be, IMO, compared to when this all started.

Let's not forget that it took us three years to arrive at this point.

Given what we were facing I honestly have no sense of whether that is good or bad. I mean only the nuttiest among us don’t consider this to have been a global pandemic - not a ton of those going around and for us to compare to. I for one am still ecstatic at the relative speed we were able to finalize the vaccine and get it to us to essentially assure we wouldn’t die. I totally agree red tape, messaging and bureaucratic ineptitude has impacted the overall story but I’m ultimately pleased with how this has gone.

From a scientific perspective, there is very little that could have gone better. If they can break through all the red tape and unnecessary bureaucracy to get these vaccines out that target the parts of the virus that virtually never change, that will be huge.

 

[GoBirds]

Had the Covid a month or so ago then bronchitis to follow, still trying to get the 100% pep back in my step. Anything you guys have done to boost energy when back at it? Slammed at work need to get back cranking. Other times I’ve had it didn’t have a lingering tiredness, may be more the bronchitis?

 

[The Commish]

A good regiment of the "B" vitamins is always a good way to boost energy...all depends on which ones you are deficient in.

 

[fatness]

Another vax-scare hoaxter mentioned a little bit above: https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/pfizer
His/her whole feed has been attacking Pfizer. This clown crap was posted 2 days ago. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iZduIfZ6MPI

That's a video that will convince nobody, except those who've decided they're not listening to evidence, because it's incredibly stupid and aimed at an incredibly stupid audience.

 

[fatness]

Had the Covid a month or so ago then bronchitis to follow, still trying to get the 100% pep back in my step. Anything you guys have done to boost energy when back at it? Slammed at work need to get back cranking. Other times I’ve had it didn’t have a lingering tiredness, may be more the bronchitis?

Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C, Vitamine D, zinc.
Wear a mask outdoors since it's winter and cold air is harsher on the respiratory system, and a simple mask warms air before you breathe it.
When your body demands it just rest. Screw schedules for a bit, you're getting yourself back to health.
Have sex as often as possible.

 

[Terminalxylem]

FDA To Recommend One Simplified Shot Per Year (evaluated and distributed like the flu shot)

They need to continue with the "red tape free" research/funding for the new vaccines focusing on the portions of the virus that don't mutate much (if at all) along with the nasal vaccines. We are back to the "take 10 years" garbage we had before since "Operation Warp Speed" is officially over. Otherwise, they'll just be chasing variants. Good for pharma, of course, and bad for us. This is partly why I just sort of stopped at three shots. This current approach is unsustainable.

To be clear, there are only so many potential vaccine targets. Any part of the virus can mutate, randomly, with selective pressure (as would occur after vaccine exposure) impacting the fitness of derivative mutants. Vaccine targets must be big enough and accessible to cells which trigger the immune response, and even then, different viral parts may be more or less immunogenic, partially due to their molecular composition. If the structure is critical for viral fitness (ie. it can't replicate/infect if it changes much), that's even better.

For many reasons, surface spike proteins were the most logical target for first generation vaccines. That's not to say there aren't other potential sites, and it's certainly reasonable to expect future vaccines to be polyvalent (targeting multiple viral parts of one strain and/or the same part of multiple strains). But I don't think it's as simple as looking for portions that "don't mutate much". As we transition out of pandemic covid, I expect we'll see less major variants of concern, in part due to less virus around to mutate, and diminishing returns in viral fitness with subsequent mutants, as @Doug B alludes to above (the horse example).

And while I love the concept, the more I read about mucosal (nasal) vaccines, the less I think they're the answer. It will be interesting to see what next gen vaccines are ultimately developed.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Along those lines, anything being done about upping the accuracy of home tests?

I don't know enough to talk about whether PSR-like tests could ever be adapted for home use. But the main thing that's different about a PSR test vs. a home antigen test is that the DNA-fragment samples for a PSR test are amplified. That amplification yields a substantial increase in accuracy -- a sample needs fewer fragments to register a positive. That amplification also, right now, is out of the reach of home consumers -- I'm not sure if that's an issue of the expense of materials/devices, the lack of a sufficient "clean room" environment in most all homes, other factors, or all of the above.

There are already FDA-approved at-home nucleic acid amplification tests (NAATs), employing PCR-like technology. Not sure about availability, or how much they cost. Here's one.

 

[The Commish]

FDA To Recommend One Simplified Shot Per Year (evaluated and distributed like the flu shot)

They need to continue with the "red tape free" research/funding for the new vaccines focusing on the portions of the virus that don't mutate much (if at all) along with the nasal vaccines. We are back to the "take 10 years" garbage we had before since "Operation Warp Speed" is officially over. Otherwise, they'll just be chasing variants. Good for pharma, of course, and bad for us. This is partly why I just sort of stopped at three shots. This current approach is unsustainable.

To be clear, there are only so many potential vaccine targets. Any part of the virus can mutate, randomly, with selective pressure (as would occur after vaccine exposure) impacting the fitness of derivative mutants. Vaccine targets must be big enough and accessible to cells which trigger the immune response, and even then, different viral parts may be more or less immunogenic, partially due to their molecular composition. If the structure is critical for viral fitness (ie. it can't replicate/infect if it changes much), that's even better.

For many reasons, surface spike proteins were the most logical target for first generation vaccines. That's not to say there aren't other potential sites, and it's certainly reasonable to expect future vaccines to be polyvalent (targeting multiple viral parts of one strain and/or the same part of multiple strains). But I don't think it's as simple as looking for portions that "don't mutate much". As we transition out of pandemic covid, I expect we'll see less major variants of concern, in part due to less virus around to mutate, and diminishing returns in viral fitness with subsequent mutants, as @Doug B alludes to above (the horse example).

And while I love the concept, the more I read about mucosal (nasal) vaccines, the less I think they're the answer. It will be interesting to see what next gen vaccines are ultimately developed.

It's my understanding that the nasal vaccines would be part of a two pronged approach designed to work alongside the original three shot series....a maintenance approach if you will. Haven't read a ton about it because it is quite a ways off and they face an uphill battle with all the red tape and bureaucracy unfortunately.

 

[Terminalxylem]

FDA To Recommend One Simplified Shot Per Year (evaluated and distributed like the flu shot)

They need to continue with the "red tape free" research/funding for the new vaccines focusing on the portions of the virus that don't mutate much (if at all) along with the nasal vaccines. We are back to the "take 10 years" garbage we had before since "Operation Warp Speed" is officially over. Otherwise, they'll just be chasing variants. Good for pharma, of course, and bad for us. This is partly why I just sort of stopped at three shots. This current approach is unsustainable.

To be clear, there are only so many potential vaccine targets. Any part of the virus can mutate, randomly, with selective pressure (as would occur after vaccine exposure) impacting the fitness of derivative mutants. Vaccine targets must be big enough and accessible to cells which trigger the immune response, and even then, different viral parts may be more or less immunogenic, partially due to their molecular composition. If the structure is critical for viral fitness (ie. it can't replicate/infect if it changes much), that's even better.

For many reasons, surface spike proteins were the most logical target for first generation vaccines. That's not to say there aren't other potential sites, and it's certainly reasonable to expect future vaccines to be polyvalent (targeting multiple viral parts of one strain and/or the same part of multiple strains). But I don't think it's as simple as looking for portions that "don't mutate much". As we transition out of pandemic covid, I expect we'll see less major variants of concern, in part due to less virus around to mutate, and diminishing returns in viral fitness with subsequent mutants, as @Doug B alludes to above (the horse example).

And while I love the concept, the more I read about mucosal (nasal) vaccines, the less I think they're the answer. It will be interesting to see what next gen vaccines are ultimately developed.

It's my understanding that the nasal vaccines would be part of a two pronged approach designed to work alongside the original three shot series....a maintenance approach if you will. Haven't read a ton about it because it is quite a ways off and they face an uphill battle with all the red tape and bureaucracy unfortunately.

I think the bigger roadblock is delivering a nasal vaccine to effector cells that amplify antibody production (adaptive immunity), while simultaneously avoiding our first line, but nonspecific immune defenses (innate immunity). There is some precedent for vaccines promoting mucosal immunity though, so I guess we'll see.

 

[GoBirds]

Had the Covid a month or so ago then bronchitis to follow, still trying to get the 100% pep back in my step. Anything you guys have done to boost energy when back at it? Slammed at work need to get back cranking. Other times I’ve had it didn’t have a lingering tiredness, may be more the bronchitis?

Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C, Vitamine D, zinc.
Wear a mask outdoors since it's winter and cold air is harsher on the respiratory system, and a simple mask warms air before you breathe it.
When your body demands it just rest. Screw schedules for a bit, you're getting yourself back to health.
Have sex as often as possible.

Great info, especially the last one!

 

[Dezbelief]

Had the Covid a month or so ago then bronchitis to follow, still trying to get the 100% pep back in my step. Anything you guys have done to boost energy when back at it? Slammed at work need to get back cranking. Other times I’ve had it didn’t have a lingering tiredness, may be more the bronchitis?

Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C, Vitamine D, zinc.
Wear a mask outdoors since it's winter and cold air is harsher on the respiratory system, and a simple mask warms air before you breathe it.
When your body demands it just rest. Screw schedules for a bit, you're getting yourself back to health.
Have sex as often as possible.

Great info, especially the last one!

For the vitamins I used those Airborne effervescent tablets. I would use one in the morning before work and then another mid-afternoon when my energy was bottoming out. After I had covid it took a couple of months to get back to 90% and a couple more months to feel 100%.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I brought my wife up to speed on the Hamlin debacle too. He's dead from the vaccine...just a body double at this point. She was asking if I'd heard any new info on his status because she hadn't so I had to break the bad news to her.

What if Russell Wilson died suddenly from the vaccine back in July and had to be replaced with a body double so that nobody was the wiser? That would explain a lot of the Broncos' season to be honest.

This Hamlin conspiracy is just so crazy and appalling.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

I think the bigger roadblock is delivering a nasal vaccine to effector cells that amplify antibody production (adaptive immunity), while simultaneously avoiding our first line, but nonspecific immune defenses (innate immunity). There is some precedent for vaccines promoting mucosal immunity though, so I guess we'll see.

Agreed. I've been reading some on that this morning.

Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses

Despite the successful deployment of vaccines during the SARS-CoV2 pandemic, viruses replicating in the respiratory mucosal environment continue to present a particular challenge for developing effective vaccines with strong protection. Morens et al. discuss approaches that need to be...

www.cell.com

notes these key challenges:

Table 2 Key challenges in developing next-generation vaccines against mucosal respiratory viruses including SARS-CoV-2, influenza A viruses, and emerging pandemic and other viruses of importance​

(1) Natural infections with mucosal respiratory viruses may not be fully controlled by human immune responses because the human immune system has evolved to tolerate them during very short intervals of mucosal viral replication​

(2) Since mucosal and systemic immunity only partially protects against infection with mucosal respiratory viruses, we must take advantage of alternative host immune mechanisms​

(3) Immune correlates of protection against mucosal respiratory viruses are incompletely understood, vary between viral strains and subtypes, with viral drift, and they exhibit inter-individual variation​

(4) Vaccine-related questions of route of administration, antigen configuration, adjuventation, and association with adjunctive therapy are of great importance for current research​

(5) Vaccinated hosts and host risk groups are many and heterogeneous​

(6) Public health considerations relating to next-generation respiratory vaccines must contribute to shaping vaccine design, including vaccine schedule, role of boosting, frequency of vaccination and duration/completeness of protection, side effects, and public acceptance​

They conclude:

Taking all of these factors into account, it is not surprising that none of the predominantly mucosal respiratory viruses have ever been effectively controlled by vaccines. This observation raises a question of fundamental importance: if natural mucosal respiratory virus infections do not elicit complete and long-term protective immunity against reinfection, how can we expect vaccines, especially systemically administered non-replicating vaccines, to do so? This is a major challenge for future vaccine development, and overcoming it is critical as we work to develop “next-generation” vaccines.​

And quoting from another article I ran across (linking to the piece included below):

"It is also not at all clear from well-controlled clinical trials that administering existing vaccines by the intranasal route (as some countries have already even approved) will provide truly meaningful benefit over the existing generation," wrote the authors of a viewpoint co-authored last month by Dr. Peter Marks, the FDA's top vaccines official.​

And my hot take... All of this, coupled with the lack of clinical trial data, coupled with the likely lack of funding for robust testing/trials really quells my enthusiasm for the nasal vaccines.

 

[GoBirds]

Had the Covid a month or so ago then bronchitis to follow, still trying to get the 100% pep back in my step. Anything you guys have done to boost energy when back at it? Slammed at work need to get back cranking. Other times I’ve had it didn’t have a lingering tiredness, may be more the bronchitis?

Vitamin B complex, Vitamin C, Vitamine D, zinc.
Wear a mask outdoors since it's winter and cold air is harsher on the respiratory system, and a simple mask warms air before you breathe it.
When your body demands it just rest. Screw schedules for a bit, you're getting yourself back to health.
Have sex as often as possible.

Great info, especially the last one!

For the vitamins I used those Airborne effervescent tablets. I would use one in the morning before work and then another mid-afternoon when my energy was bottoming out. After I had covid it took a couple of months to get back to 90% and a couple more months to feel 100%.

Great info, yeah just dragging energy wise and unfortunately life won’t slow down for me.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I brought my wife up to speed on the Hamlin debacle too. He's dead from the vaccine...just a body double at this point. She was asking if I'd heard any new info on his status because she hadn't so I had to break the bad news to her.

What if Russell Wilson died suddenly from the vaccine back in July and had to be replaced with a body double so that nobody was the wiser? That would explain a lot of the Broncos' season to be honest.

Brady, Rodgers, Stafford ... it's all making sense! (Well except the Rodgers part, since we know he's not vaxxed.)

 

[Terminalxylem]

Also for the record, none of those vitamin cocktails have been shown to prevent respiratory infections, or promote recovery from them. Airborne settled a big false advertising case based on their misleading claims.

Supplements only help people with pre-existing deficiencies. Admittedly, our diets collectively suck. Vitamin intake isn’t up to snuff for everyone, especially for D (mostly from sun exposure) and E. But even data for vitamin D supplements for covid is inconclusive.

If anyone has seen well designed studies showing otherwise, I’d love to be educated. B vitamins in particular seem to have found their way into a bunch of “energy” products in the last decade or so.

 

[-fish-]

Also for the record, none of those vitamin cocktails have been shown to prevent respiratory infections, or promote recovery from them. Airborne settled a big false advertising case based on their misleading claims.

Supplements only help people with pre-existing deficiencies. Admittedly, our diets collectively suck. Vitamin intake isn’t up to snuff for everyone, especially for D (mostly from sun exposure) and E. But even data for vitamin D supplements for covid is inconclusive.

If anyone has seen well designed studies showing otherwise, I’d love to be educated. B vitamins in particular seem to have found their way into a bunch of “energy” products in the last decade or so.

Flintstones are still good, right?

 

[The Commish]

Also for the record, none of those vitamin cocktails have been shown to prevent respiratory infections, or promote recovery from them. Airborne settled a big false advertising case based on their misleading claims.

Supplements only help people with pre-existing deficiencies. Admittedly, our diets collectively suck. Vitamin intake isn’t up to snuff for everyone, especially for D (mostly from sun exposure) and E. But even data for vitamin D supplements for covid is inconclusive.

If anyone has seen well designed studies showing otherwise, I’d love to be educated. B vitamins in particular seem to have found their way into a bunch of “energy” products in the last decade or so.

Yeah, my comment was in response to "more energy" not to help with covid...sorry if that wasn't clear. It's also why I qualified that it matters if you're deficient or not. Like you said, most of us are...especially in the D line. Need to know where the imbalance is before taking random cocktails of vitamins.

 

[The Commish]

Also for the record, none of those vitamin cocktails have been shown to prevent respiratory infections, or promote recovery from them. Airborne settled a big false advertising case based on their misleading claims.

Supplements only help people with pre-existing deficiencies. Admittedly, our diets collectively suck. Vitamin intake isn’t up to snuff for everyone, especially for D (mostly from sun exposure) and E. But even data for vitamin D supplements for covid is inconclusive.

If anyone has seen well designed studies showing otherwise, I’d love to be educated. B vitamins in particular seem to have found their way into a bunch of “energy” products in the last decade or so.

Flintstones are still good, right?

Zinc never tasted so good

 

[LawFitz]

USFL signee Lemonier, ex-Lions LB, dies at 25

Jessie Lemonier, who appeared in seven games with the Lions in 2021 and recently signed with the USFL, has died at the age of 25, the team announced.

www.espn.com

Cause of death TBD.

25. Years. Old. Just another day in the Covid nightmare. Carry on.

 

[LawFitz]

Project Veritas dropping yet another Pfizer insider bomb, if indeed the person in this video actually works for that God-awful company... According to his disgusting admissions, Pfizer is tinkering with Covid mutations, euphimized as 'Directed Evolutions' so they can sell you more vaxxes!

Jordon Trishton Walker, Pfizer R&D, caught on tape by Project Veritas | #DirectedEvolution

After video came out he deleted his presence on the internet: https://web.archive.org/web/20230126144217/https://meaww.com/who-is-jordan-trishton-walker-alleged-pfizer-employee-makes-damning-covid-revelation-in-video Internal Pfizer docs verifyi…

www.bitchute.com

Info below taken from Bitchute video notes...

After video came out he deleted his presence on the internet:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230126144217/https://meaww.com/who-is-jordan-trishton-walker-alleged-pfizer-employee-makes-damning-covid-revelation-in-video

Internal Pfizer docs verifying Jordan Walker as Pfizer Director, Research & Development Strategic Operations:

https://twitter.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1618435991211233282

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Proof of existence despite deletions:
His now deleted LinkedIn account

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordon-walker-m-d-4a321a24

is cited in an article from 2020:

The Near-Term Outlook for COVID-19 Therapeutic Treatments

There are positive signs of potential benefits across multiple drug classes and candidates.

www.bcg.com

https://archive.is/J8ODr

Link at the bottom, with three other authors.
Credit:

BREAKING: @Pfizer Exploring “Mutating” COVID-19 Virus For New Vaccines “Don’t tell anyone this...There is a risk...have to be very controlled to make sure this virus you mutate doesn’t create something...the way that the virus started in Wuhan, to be

Posted in r/conspiracy by u/Don_Lemon33 • 2,994 points and 933 comments

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https://archive.is/ZQKY0

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DirectedEvolution |

https://archive.is/3DI5Z

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_evolution

 

[LawFitz]

Here's some good news... That tyrannical new CA law that put a legal gag on doctors who dared speak against the machine has been temporarily halted by injunction. The drumbeat steadily grows, folks...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-judge-issues-preliminary-injunction-blocking-covid-misinformation-law

 

[Dezbelief]

Also for the record, none of those vitamin cocktails have been shown to prevent respiratory infections, or promote recovery from them. Airborne settled a big false advertising case based on their misleading claims.

Supplements only help people with pre-existing deficiencies. Admittedly, our diets collectively suck. Vitamin intake isn’t up to snuff for everyone, especially for D (mostly from sun exposure) and E. But even data for vitamin D supplements for covid is inconclusive.

If anyone has seen well designed studies showing otherwise, I’d love to be educated. B vitamins in particular seem to have found their way into a bunch of “energy” products in the last decade or so.

The B vitamins in Airborne do provide a energy boost which is what GoBirds was desiring.

 

[LawFitz]

Buwahahaha! Now the guy is claiming he was lying to impress someone on a date! Sure, buddy...

Pfizer Director Physically Assaults James O'Keefe and Veritas Staff, Destroys iPad Showing Undercover Recordings About "Mutating" Covid Virus - NYPD Responds (VIDEO)

Jordon Trishton Walker, Pfizer Director of Research and Development, physically assaulted James O’Keefe and Veritas staffers on Thursday. James O’Keefe confronted Walker at a restaurant and showed him the undercover recordings about Pfizer’s plans to potentially mutate the Covid virus. “You...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Terminalxylem]

Also for the record, none of those vitamin cocktails have been shown to prevent respiratory infections, or promote recovery from them. Airborne settled a big false advertising case based on their misleading claims.

Supplements only help people with pre-existing deficiencies. Admittedly, our diets collectively suck. Vitamin intake isn’t up to snuff for everyone, especially for D (mostly from sun exposure) and E. But even data for vitamin D supplements for covid is inconclusive.

If anyone has seen well designed studies showing otherwise, I’d love to be educated. B vitamins in particular seem to have found their way into a bunch of “energy” products in the last decade or so.

The B vitamins in Airborne do provide an energy boost which is what GoBirds was desiring.

Yeah, I understand. TMK there’s not even data suggesting B vitamins boost energy, though that’s certainly a vague concept to quantify.

But I’m open to reading evidence which proves otherwise.

 

[Dezbelief]

Also for the record, none of those vitamin cocktails have been shown to prevent respiratory infections, or promote recovery from them. Airborne settled a big false advertising case based on their misleading claims.

Supplements only help people with pre-existing deficiencies. Admittedly, our diets collectively suck. Vitamin intake isn’t up to snuff for everyone, especially for D (mostly from sun exposure) and E. But even data for vitamin D supplements for covid is inconclusive.

If anyone has seen well designed studies showing otherwise, I’d love to be educated. B vitamins in particular seem to have found their way into a bunch of “energy” products in the last decade or so.

The B vitamins in Airborne do provide an energy boost which is what GoBirds was desiring.

Yeah, I understand. TMK there’s not even data suggesting B vitamins boost energy, though that’s certainly a vague concept to quantify.

But I’m open to reading evidence which proves otherwise.

I only have anecdotal evidence, works for me ymmv.

 

[seahawk 17]

Friend of mine was over for dinner on Saturday night and then spent all day with my girlfriend. Friend tested positive today.

I've had both boosters since I'm over 50. I have no symptoms and feel fine. What's my protocol supposed to be at this point? Mask? Quarantine?

The real question is what was your friend doing with your girlfriend all day?

I'm pretty sure they went for a walk, went to coffee and went shopping while i watched football with her husband. Can't see why that matters.

Tell me more...slowly.

 

[LawFitz]

More on the slimiest of slimy Pfizer doctors... Until now, I thought he was just some schmuck research executive. Nope, he is that and also an actual Medical Doctor. Talk about a profession that keeps taking reputational hits since the Covid Era began...

Thorough background on Dr. Jordan Trishton Walker...

Who is "Jordon Trishton Walker"?

Project Veritas recently released a video featuring "Jordon Trishton Walker," Pfizer executive who revealed shocking new info. But finding anything about him is tough. Here is what I've found so far.

brianoshea.substack.com

 

[gianmarco]

More on the slimiest of slimy Pfizer doctors... Until now, I thought he was just some schmuck research executive. Nope, he is that and also an actual Medical Doctor. Talk about a profession that keeps taking reputational hits since the Covid Era began...

Thorough background on Dr. Jordan Trishton Walker...

Who is "Jordon Trishton Walker"?

Project Veritas recently released a video featuring "Jordon Trishton Walker," Pfizer executive who revealed shocking new info. But finding anything about him is tough. Here is what I've found so far.

brianoshea.substack.com

Not sure why I'm even bothering responding to this but there's a reddit thread on this.

That video is a sham and a complete fake. The guy is not a Pfizer exec or anything of the sort. No R&D director would say the things he is or speak that way.

That people believe this nonsense is frightening.

 

[LawFitz]

That video is a sham and a complete fake.

Sham maybe. Complete fake, I highly doubt. Guessing the truth is he is a contractor consultant with a deeply connected role at Pfizer and a big mouth. Just a complete guess, but post your link and let's compare notes.

 

[fatness]

Individual choices armed with good information seems to be where we are now. And that's a relatively pretty good place to be, IMO, compared to when this all started.

Let's not forget that it took us three years to arrive at this point.

Three years ago we didn't know crap about COVID. There was no known "good information" about it, just a lot of alarm and increasing cases. Bit by bit since that time more has become known, more effective countermeasures to COVID have been developed, and of course people are more armed with both information and choices. The surprising part is that getting to this point only took 3 years.

 

[LawFitz]

"Guessing the truth"

Educated guess is the best we can do for now. BTW, I looked up the Reddit page the other guy referred to. It's a group of shills making baseless arguments against the mountain of evidence presented there that this slimeball doctor actually did work for Pfizer. The tone and claim of his post and the way he pointed to the Reddit thread as some sort of legit justification were right on par though.

Here again is a great summary of the evidence, though much of it has been scrubbed from the referenced sites already.

Who is "Jordon Trishton Walker"?

Project Veritas recently released a video featuring "Jordon Trishton Walker," Pfizer executive who revealed shocking new info. But finding anything about him is tough. Here is what I've found so far.

brianoshea.substack.com

I get that many of you here are internally freaking out at your choice to expose yourselves and the people you care about to this awful corporation and its captured regulators. Lashing out won't solve your problem. Sunlight is what you need.

 

[LawFitz]

Here's some not so comedic relief for your souls... Satire or not?...

https://iqfy.com/unvaccinated-silence/

I vote the former, but the author's other posts portray her as just kooky enough to think it could actually be the latter.

 

[LawFitz]

All around the world, the same song. Cases down. Hospitalizations down. Excess deaths up. Why?

Excess deaths in 30 countries

US, Weekly Cumulative All-Cause Excess Deathshttps://www.usmortality.comhttps://www.usmortality.com/deaths/excess-cumulative/united-statesExcess deaths 2022 ...

youtu.be

 

[Mitchie]

That video is a sham and a complete fake.

Sham maybe. Complete fake, I highly doubt. Guessing the truth is he is a contractor consultant with a deeply connected role at Pfizer and a big mouth. Just a complete guess, but post your link and let's compare notes.

You have made up your mind and no factual evidence will change it.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Individual choices armed with good information seems to be where we are now. And that's a relatively pretty good place to be, IMO, compared to when this all started.

Let's not forget that it took us three years to arrive at this point.

Three years ago we didn't know crap about COVID. There was no known "good information" about it, just a lot of alarm and increasing cases. Bit by bit since that time more has become known, more effective countermeasures to COVID have been developed, and of course people are more armed with both information and choices. The surprising part is that getting to this point only took 3 years.

Some of us got to this exact point two full years ago.