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***OFFICIAL CYDY/Leronlimab Thread*** (2 Viewers)

If this is a flop, Bruce Patterson has to have a terrible read and also be somewhat an imposter based on his resume.  I'm having a hard time reconciling this because he seems so credible.  Is he ahead of the rest of the medical community?  Why doesn't someone other than Dr Yo and Dr Been talk to him?
This couldn't be more wrong.

 
Hard to say if this is good or bad news, I know everyone wanted the trial to be over because leronlimab was saving lives.  Just more of the same, kicks the can further down the road.

Not outright bad news but just kind of blah.
I don’t know if it’s good or bad but I guess it didn’t show an overwhelming reason to stop the trial. 

 
I don't think its true or I'd be running for my life.  He is the integral piece here though and am counting on his judgement.

It bugs me that no one wants to talk with him.  
The world of pharma not CYDY.   99.99999999999999999999999999999999%


CYDY world. 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%


He hasn't shown the world a proven result yet.   

 
So much is now riding on the M/M trial results.  In fact, even the uplisting to Nasdaq depend on it.  If they don't get emergency use approved, this stock goes below $2.00 I think.

The longer they hold out now, the worse it looks.

I'm predicting low 4's tomorrow.

 
I don’t know if it’s good or bad but I guess it didn’t show an overwhelming reason to stop the trial. 
Yeah, the only downside at this time is the race to get to market.  If keep kicking the can further down the road,  they may get surpassed at some point.  

 
So much is now riding on the M/M trial results.  In fact, even the uplisting to Nasdaq depend on it.  If they don't get emergency use approved, this stock goes below $2.00 I think.

The longer they hold out now, the worse it looks.

I'm predicting low 4's tomorrow.
You’re expecting a 15% drop tomorrow?

 
Yeah, the only downside at this time is the race to get to market.  If keep kicking the can further down the road,  they may get surpassed at some point.  
For sure. And that may even be likely if the m/m doesn’t come through. Sounds like they need 30+ more for the s/c to be enrolled and then a month to complete them and god knows how long to do analysis — that’s November. 

 
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For sure. And that may even be likely if the m/m doesn’t come through. Sounds like they need 30+ more for the s/c to be enrolled and then a month to complete them and god knows how long to do analysis — that’s November. 
Meanwhile another 1000 people die each day

 
The interim analysis will occur 4 weeks after the 195th patient is registered?  We are probably looking at the end of September for this.

You’re expecting a 15% drop tomorrow?
Yes.  I think you will even see a lot of the longs selling and hoping to get in at a cheaper price (lowering their cost base).  I'm considering it.

 
For sure. And that may even be likely if the m/m doesn’t come through. Sounds like they need 30+ more for the s/c to be enrolled and then a month to complete them and god knows how long to do analysis — that’s November. 
I think two months best case scenario.  Deaths should be easy to count at least

 
Someone on Yahoo just mentioned that it is after 195 patients are enrolled and not 4 weeks after the 195th patient.  I am not sure, but this will make a big difference.
From the PR:

The Phase 3 study currently has 169 enrolled patients and the Company will conduct a full interim analysis once 195 patients are enrolled
Interpreting the PR as written, the person on Yahoo is correct but I feel that this is another communication gaffe.

 
I’ve never seen a company go out of their way to release bad news time and time again

 
Is it possible CYDY is on some blacklist? The dichotomy between the potential as reported across numerous channels and the lack of interest at the government level is striking. 
The sources reporting on them are all paid.  Even the Cytodyn leader Dr Patterson has a lot of financial interest in the stock price.

 
Wow, i was thinking S/C results were right behind M/M results.  Not sure why...maybe I was confusing the DSMC review with something that was actually meaningful.  Weren't we hopeful DSMC would see some of the high level data (like deaths) and grant a EUA.  Guess they didn't.

Now we're banking on final M/M which we already know has statistical challenges.  Then hold and pray until November...

Its hard to think the efficacy is as strong as we were hoping.  I'd say the stock is going to take a hit tomorrow.

 
Wow, i was thinking S/C results were right behind M/M results.  Not sure why...maybe I was confusing the DSMC review with something that was actually meaningful.  Weren't we hopeful DSMC would see some of the high level data (like deaths) and grant a EUA.  Guess they didn't.

Now we're banking on final M/M which we already know has statistical challenges.  Then hold and pray until November...

Its hard to think the efficacy is as strong as we were hoping.  I'd say the stock is going to take a hit tomorrow.
All their eggs are now in the m/m basket.  If they are just graduated to a phase 3 trial, then this will not only take a hit, but the stock will sink below the Nasdaq threshold.

 
They said 10 days (from 7/30) until M/M efficacy results were done, right? 

Wasn't this just the same safety update like we got for the M/M last monday? 

 
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From here-

Next week, we will be reporting on CD-12 — safety look at we're going to have. We also going to hopefully have the top-line report for CD-10 completed within 10 days and we would immediately announced and published. When we publish, it's because we are so positive on our results that we want everybody to see every detail of every one of these points.

Seems like they release exactly what they said they would. :shrug:  

We also already knew they didn't have 195 and were trying to fill the study still, nothing there is news-

A number of patients right now. I believe it's more than 161. We should be close to 165. And, we are doing a safety look. We are — Dr. Jay Lalezari has suggested to us to perhaps see if we can do interim analysis earlier, if the FDA is okay with that. So we'll explore all of that.

But if not, we are going to the interim analysis at 195; and if the results are strong, we will see if FDA will respond quickly to that.

 
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From here-

Next week, we will be reporting on CD-12 — safety look at we're going to have. We also going to hopefully have the top-line report for CD-10 completed within 10 days and we would immediately announced and published. When we publish, it's because we are so positive on our results that we want everybody to see every detail of every one of these points.

Seems like they release exactly what they said they would. :shrug:  
If leronlimab was clearly helping patients on the drug, vs the other arm, they'd have stopped the trial and given the other arm leronlimab.

Certainly, the trial continuing unchanged means the drug doesn't seem to be doing serious harm, but it also means it's not a homerun lifesaver at this point either.

 
If leronlimab was clearly helping patients on the drug, vs the other arm, they'd have stopped the trial and given the other arm leronlimab.
From what I’m reading (dunno how true) that is an exceptionally rare thing to have happen and should not have been the expectation. 

 
From what I’m reading (dunno how true) that is an exceptionally rare thing to have happen and should not have been the expectation. 
Yeah, it would've been basically a grand-slam, rather than a homerun.  

But based on the anecdotal stories, folks making instant and miraculous turnarounds, the hype put it in the realm of possibility for the trial.  I believe some of the discussion about ending the trial if the results are good enough came on calls from Cytodyn, but I'm happy to be corrected if that's not true.

 
From what I’m reading (dunno how true) that is an exceptionally rare thing to have happen and should not have been the expectation. 
True.

We have an exceptionally rare event (pandemic).  We were hoping for results that powerful enough to capitalize on that, they didn't.  Doesn't mean it will not still be proven to help. 

 
Yeah, it would've been basically a grand-slam, rather than a homerun.  

But based on the anecdotal stories, folks making instant and miraculous turnarounds, the hype put it in the realm of possibility for the trial.  I believe some of the discussion about ending the trial if the results are good enough came on calls from Cytodyn, but I'm happy to be corrected if that's not true.
Anecdotes don't come off ECMO!

 
True.

We have an exceptionally rare event (pandemic).  We were hoping for results that powerful enough to capitalize on that, they didn't.  Doesn't mean it will not still be proven to help. 
Yes. It is also the federal government, and while we hope they would finally stop moving at their glacier pace, that probably ain’t gonna be likely. 

 
If leronlimab was clearly helping patients on the drug, vs the other arm, they'd have stopped the trial and given the other arm leronlimab.

Certainly, the trial continuing unchanged means the drug doesn't seem to be doing serious harm, but it also means it's not a homerun lifesaver at this point either.


But again, this was only safety on a study that wasn't 100% full.  We didn't get the grand slam, but they're at least still hitting singles. 

Also, Nader said -

 Dr. Jay Lalezari has suggested to us to perhaps see if we can do interim analysis earlier, if the FDA is okay with that. So we'll explore all of that.

But if not, we are going to the interim analysis at 195

So there is still a chance of interim analysis, but only after 195 patients have filled the study

 
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But again, this was only safety on a study that wasn't 100% full. 

Also, Nader said -

 Dr. Jay Lalezari has suggested to us to perhaps see if we can do interim analysis earlier, if the FDA is okay with that. So we'll explore all of that.

But if not, we are going to the interim analysis at 195

So there is still a chance of interim analysis, but only after 195 patients have filled the study
I've been counting on the interim analysis at 195, hopefully that they will be able to do that.  Only problem is they still have patients to fill to get to that number and then its another month before the trial completes and then whatever time it takes to compile and crunch the numbes.  That's at least 2 1/2 months from now I think.

 
I've been counting on the interim analysis at 195, hopefully that they will be able to do that.  Only problem is they still have patients to fill to get to that number and then its another month before the trial completes and then whatever time it takes to compile and crunch the numbes.  That's at least 2 1/2 months from now I think.
Its funny.  Everytime you post i think its Wyhatt.  Must be the first post thing in here.

 
We still really HODLing?   Because I kind of want to take my 25 grand and go home. 
I am, I’m only at like 17 grand right now.  I’m holding for the long haul though. 17K is really nice, but I will absolutely hate myself if I cash out at 17 but it could’ve been 117.  Not even considering it until after uplisting and seeing what comes of that.

 
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Bought a bit more under 5 today to get myself to a round number.  Still think the odds are in their favor, so continue to hold.

 
I've been counting on the interim analysis at 195, hopefully that they will be able to do that.  Only problem is they still have patients to fill to get to that number and then its another month before the trial completes and then whatever time it takes to compile and crunch the numbes.  That's at least 2 1/2 months from now I think.
Yeah, we all want the grand slam and EUA, but they're still putting bloopers and drag bunts in play  :lol:  

 
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