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***Official*** Dwayne Washington, RB, DET (2 Viewers)

With Doug Martin and Vereen injured, I'm starting Washington over Gio.  I'd prefer to wait and see more from him but, as a Bears fan, I have to believe Washington's match up is too good to pass up this week even if he's splitting time.

FWIW, I like Howard long term, but would like him more if he were facing the Bears D.

 
RUNNING BACKStart of the Week: Dwayne Washington at Bears:Washington was the waiver-wire darling of Week 3. Unfortunately, he was faced with a brutal matchup against the Packers’ No. 1 run defense in a game the Lions had to play catch-up for 3.5 quarters. This is a prime post-hype sleeper spot for Washington. After being massive underdogs last Sunday, the Lions are now three-point road favorites. Game flow projects to be in the Lions’ favor, and they’ll also be way up in pace. Detroit is 23rd in offensive pace, and the Bears are sixth. That’s the fourth-largest pace gap of Week 4. Opposing offenses are running on average 68.3 plays per game versus the Bears. No team has faced more rushing attempts than Chicago (92). Equally-bad against both the run and the pass, the Bears are 27th in team-defense DVOA, 26th against the pass, and 26th against the run. They’re missing a ton of defensive starters, including NT Eddie Goldman (ankle), ILB Danny Trevathan (thumb), OLB Pernell McPhee (knee, PUP), and OLB Lamarr Houston (torn ACL, I.R.). Goldman was PFF’s No. 9 run-stopping defensive tackle out of 70 qualifiers before going down. The Lions tried to use Theo Riddick as a between-the-tackles runner in their first game without Ameer Abdullah (foot, I.R.), but Riddick managed just nine yards on 10 carries at Green Bay. Washington turned his 10 carries into 38 yards. Beat writers are expecting Washington to get more work in this one. A floor of 15 carries with 20-plus upside seems reasonable. Only the Saints, Redskins, and Bills have surrendered more rushing touchdowns than the Bears to running backs through Week 3.
 

 
I have DJ, hill, and Crowell in at Rb and trying to figure out which one of hill and crow I would bench to plug Washington in.  Last week I put him in over hill and it burned me bad.  But this week I think Washington is a much safer bet.  

 
rickyg said:
I have DJ, hill, and Crowell in at Rb and trying to figure out which one of hill and crow I would bench to plug Washington in.  Last week I put him in over hill and it burned me bad.  But this week I think Washington is a much safer bet.  
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Cool. Good luck this week

 
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Due to the decker injury I need to drop a rb to pick up a wr..

rest of season

powell, Henry or d wash?

please rank for me..

thanks for the help

 
mikel0254 said:
Bell Cow as in 3-down?  Unlikely.  But I will say he should get the majority of 1st, 2nd, short yard/GL carries within a few weeks.

Riddick should and will be there as the passing back.  He's good in that role
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Cooter is not going to reduce Riddick to a one-dimensional role. The left side did (rookie T Decker & 2nd year G Tomlinson) graded out horrible on Theo's runs last week. He's a good back, they're not throwing in the towel just because the most effective front in the league v.  the run bottled him up.

Starting to lose faith in Washington over Howard. Volume wise the edge is clearly to Jordan. TDs are variable but Dwayne will be the GL back v. a banged up D that has issues stopping the run in the RZ. Starting both over Duke in the Flex and Freeman (tough matchup v. Car) is an option. Don't feel like I can sit Ingram.

:mellow:

GET TO KNOW: Running back Dwayne Washington

 

Nickname?

Washington: Everybody calls me Swaggy. I go by Swaggy Wayne.
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mphtrilogy said:
Due to the decker injury I need to drop a rb to pick up a wr..

rest of season

powell, Henry or d wash?

please rank for me..

thanks for the help
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Henry is never going to be a FF starter this year unless Murray misses time. But if that happens...the internet will lose its mind.

Powell is having great effectiveness in a very limited role. Hard to see Forte holding up at his current pace, they've said the feel they need to scale back. But I've seen enough of Bilal to know he's not special. Above average, adequate, sure. But he'll never win a league for you. Henry has that potential.

Washington has a huge opportunity in front of him. Lots of unknowns.

1. Henry 

2. Swaggy

3. Powell

 
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Can ya break that down some   That Howard >> statment

Do you believe he has the better QB  OLine  Defense    All the building blocks to a serious run game?

Are ya trying to say which back will have the sharpest uniform on the sidelines?

 
DetroitLions.com's Tim Twentyman expects Dwayne Washington to see "an uptick in carries" against the Bears.
Twentyman said Theo Riddick will still be involved, but the smart money is on Washington beginning to monopolize the early-down work. He was much more effective on the same number of carries last week and is a better fit for Ameer Abdullah's old role. Against a Bears front which has been decimated by injuries, Washington is a FLEX play with the upside for a lot more.
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:thumbup:

 
creepythinman said:
What does draft spot matter when it comes to actual talent?
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Sure, there's always a few outliers in the draft process, but all in all it's a fairly efficient market.

I'm going to stick with the No. 4 overall pick being more talented than a seventh round pick. Plus my eyes tell me it as well.

I like Washington and with injuries I'll need to rely on him in my redraft league so I'm hoping he is a success.

 
WTF is going on in here.  This guy is still on my wire but has done nothing so far to earn respect.  I guess everyone is counting on this week being his breakout week and then somehow becoming Leveon Bell ROS...

 
This hype is getting even more ridiculous, but this is the type of player who wins you championships. 

 
C-Bound said:
WTF is going on in here.  This guy is still on my wire but has done nothing so far to earn respect.  I guess everyone is counting on this week being his breakout week and then somehow becoming Leveon Bell ROS...
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The tape is linked here, and while I disagree with the bolded.. you are doing it wrong if you wait to try and get guys until after they break out.  The idea is to be ahead of the game, which is what is going on here.

He is about to get the opportunity... if he makes the best of it, you will be too late.

 
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C-Bound said:
WTF is going on in here.  This guy is still on my wire but has done nothing so far to earn respect.  I guess everyone is counting on this week being his breakout week and then somehow becoming Leveon Bell ROS...
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I'm not sure how competitive the leagues you play in are but IMO if you wait for the player to be proven you're too late or you will pay much more to acquire them.  I've found it's much more profitable to get in early...certainly more risk and more misses but when you hit it can change your season/roster.

I'm not sure why the Bell comparison is necessary as there are many bands of productivity between nothing and the best RBs in the league.  With so many injuries and the watered down roles of RBs any RB that can potentially get 15 touches and goal line work can be a valuable asset.   

 
I picked up Ware two days before the hype began. I grabbed Washington & Howard a week ago. I'm trying to figure out a way to squeeze Dixon on my roster this week.

It's a lot cheaper to anticipate rather than react, which makes it easier to let them go if/when they don't pan out because there's no sunk cost.

 
Guys need to post trades you gotten once the hype hits a certain level, or some actual production is shown..

That should help paint a picture for some..

Personally Im hoping to hear the Coach talk up Swaggy!  (I think hes kinda fixated on Theo)

 
Banger said:
I'm not sure how competitive the leagues you play in are but IMO if you wait for the player to be proven you're too late or you will pay much more to acquire them.  I've found it's much more profitable to get in early...certainly more risk and more misses but when you hit it can change your season/roster.

I'm not sure why the Bell comparison is necessary as there are many bands of productivity between nothing and the best RBs in the league.  With so many injuries and the watered down roles of RBs any RB that can potentially get 15 touches and goal line work can be a valuable asset.   
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:goodposting:

Only way to survive/win, especially with FAAB in play.

 
Banger said:
I'm not sure how competitive the leagues you play in are but IMO if you wait for the player to be proven you're too late or you will pay much more to acquire them.  I've found it's much more profitable to get in early...certainly more risk and more misses but when you hit it can change your season/roster.

I'm not sure why the Bell comparison is necessary as there are many bands of productivity between nothing and the best RBs in the league.  With so many injuries and the watered down roles of RBs any RB that can potentially get 15 touches and goal line work can be a valuable asset.   
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Well my main one where he is available is very competitive.  So that may also be a sign as to why he is still on waivers.  Time will only tell I suppose.  The reality is that Riddick isn't going anywhere on a pass first, bad run-blocking team with no defense.  Could Washington become a viable starter in some leagues ROS?  Sure.  And probably will do well this week but "win Championships"?  Cmon...

The Bell comment was an exaggeration based on the hype in here.

 
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Dismattle said:
Guys need to post trades you gotten once the hype hits a certain level, or some actual production is shown..

That should help paint a picture for some..

Personally Im hoping to hear the Coach talk up Swaggy!  (I think hes kinda fixated on Theo)
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Been offered Latavius Murray if that helps.

 
Dismattle said:
Can ya break that down some   That Howard >> statment

Do you believe he has the better QB  OLine  Defense    All the building blocks to a serious run game?

Are ya trying to say which back will have the sharpest uniform on the sidelines?
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Howard looks to be guaranteed more volume as he has less competition 

Detroit defense is worse against the run than Chicago defense 

Chicago is playing at home 

Detroit's O-line vs Chi's O-line is probably a push at best.

 
matuski said:
Not sure this is true with the injuries going forward.
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It's not true right now.

Chicago gives up 142.7 rushing yards per game. Detroit gives up 114.7 yards per game. Although Detroit does give up more yards per carry - but the fact that the Chicago offense is by far more inept, allows teams to run more against the Bears (which has to be taken into account).

 
Dismattle said:
Guys need to post trades you gotten once the hype hits a certain level, or some actual production is shown..

That should help paint a picture for some..

Personally Im hoping to hear the Coach talk up Swaggy!  (I think hes kinda fixated on Theo)
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Traded him for Russel Wilson

 
Dr. Octopus said:
It's not true right now.

Chicago gives up 142.7 rushing yards per game. Detroit gives up 114.7 yards per game. Although Detroit does give up more yards per carry - but the fact that the Chicago offense is by far more inept, allows teams to run more against the Bears (which has to be taken into account).
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I'm saying recent injuries (just lost their strong NT Goldamn? for example) may not make it so right now.  Up to now, yes.

 
matuski said:
Not sure this is true with the injuries going forward.
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Bears are missing Goldman and Trevathan so I would disagree.  Lions are hurting too but more without Ziggy and Levy which affects the pass rush.  I'm starting Howard over Washington in one league as my RB2 but considering sitting Riddick for Washington in the other (both PPR).  I do own Swaggy in all 3 of my leagues so consider me in on the bandwagon.  Also watched the entire Lions game last Sunday and can safely say he outplayed Riddick.  The problem is Caldwell and Washingtons history of fumbling in college.  Hopefully Jim Bob Cooter is calling the final play.

 
flipcuplegend said:
Bears are missing Goldman and Trevathan so I would disagree.  Lions are hurting too but more without Ziggy and Levy which affects the pass rush.  I'm starting Howard over Washington in one league as my RB2 but considering sitting Riddick for Washington in the other (both PPR).  I do own Swaggy in all 3 of my leagues so consider me in on the bandwagon.  Also watched the entire Lions game last Sunday and can safely say he outplayed Riddick.  The problem is Caldwell and Washingtons history of fumbling in college.  Hopefully Jim Bob Cooter is calling the final play.
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That's my decision as well. Riddick vs Washington.

It used to also have Latavius Murray but honestly, after much thought, I'm benching him.

 
I'm riding him at Flex this week (over Reddick) - I have a feeling this will be a strong week to use him. Good matchup, lots of smoke about an increased workload, more trust of his coaches, etc - we'll see if smoke = fire, but my gut says 17/85/1

 
DocHolliday said:
Washington remains on the bench for Gio this week. 
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Dr. Brew said:
Me too
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If I had Gio I'd use him over Washington too.  I assume you drafted Gio higher than Washington? (rhetorical question)

Seriously - you guys might as well post, "Washington remains on the bench for David Johnson this week". I'm pretty sure those of us starting Washington at RB or Flex don't have the luxury of a better option. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
If I had Gio I'd use him over Washington too.  I assume you drafted Gio higher than Washington? (rhetorical question)

Seriously - you guys might as well post, "Washington remains on the bench for David Johnson this week". I'm pretty sure those of us starting Washington at RB or Flex don't have the luxury of a better option. 
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There are several who have stated they are starting him over Gio this week on Page 20 or 21

 
Dr. Brew said:
There are several who have stated they are starting him over Gio this week on Page 20 or 21
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Ah - I missed that. TL/DR, too many pages. I just saw the last couple - sorry about that.  So I guess my modified comment would be, "I disagree with those starting Washington over Gio" - though I do think it's fairly close.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Really? Murray has been pretty productive - I'd be surprised if Washington out-scored Murray this week. 
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Murray is getting 10 carries a game and is facing a tough BALT run D. His floor i slow as is his ceiling...and I"m guessing a TD doesn't bail him out this week.

 
Washington over Gio isn't insane according to fantasypro's expert consensus rankings. 

Starting him over Gurley though, that's pretty insane yeah. I'd have a hard time starting him over someone who I know is getting 20+ touches.

 
Another poster is starting Washington over Gio.  I didn't even draft Washinton.  I got him from waivers last week. If he does start producing, he will be in my lineup over Gio.  I have not seen anything to indicate he is the RB1 in Detriit over Riddick yet. 

 
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