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It's also not credible, even by the rules of the genre, that the entire population of LA just quietly disappears except for this one little neighborhood without anybody knowing what happened.
If you're going to question credibility then maybe try paying attention. This is one of 8 or 9 safe zones in just this one area of LA.
Yeah, I did pay attention. The people in this safe zone can see a couple of miles in every direction just from sitting on the roof. If the military did a house-by-house clean-up operation in the surrounding area, everybody would have seen it taking place. For example, the dad has no problem clearly seeing gunfire in one building off in the distance. But apparently people were gunned down in the streets, and armed patrols are still taking place in broad daylight, and that's somehow a secret to everybody except the one lady who snuck out.

Again, I'm enjoying the show. This particular direction of the story just doesn't allow for suspension of disbelief IMO.

 
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So again this show is just on at a bad time because after 7 hours of football and :banned: I am like what just happened. but why did the nurse mom leave? I mean her son is there and she just hops on the truck, Even my wife was like I wouldn't leave my kid. Can someone tell me why you think she did that?

 
I dug it. Doc basically figuring out anyone that is a potential threat and removing them so they don't have an outbreak in the community. Gotta have some reason for the community to go to #### and leave the compound I guess.
I liked the aspect of taking away sick people. Looking like a roach motel situation. Kind of surprised that the doc had the "nurse" come along with her to the hospital. Not sure what that's about but my initial thought is that the Dr. doesn't care for what's going on at the hospital and is trying to enlist a confederate.

 
It's also not credible, even by the rules of the genre, that the entire population of LA just quietly disappears except for this one little neighborhood without anybody knowing what happened.
If you're going to question credibility then maybe try paying attention. This is one of 8 or 9 safe zones in just this one area of LA.
Yeah, I did pay attention. The people in this safe zone can see a couple of miles in every direction just from sitting on the roof. If the military did a house-by-house clean-up operation in the surrounding area, everybody would have seen it taking place. For example, the dad has no problem clearly seeing gunfire in one building off in the distance. But apparently people were gunned down in the streets, and armed patrols are still taking place in broad daylight, and that's somehow a secret to everybody except the one lady who snuck out.

Again, I'm enjoying the show. This particular direction of the story just doesn't allow for suspension of disbelief IMO.
The lady that snuck out seemed to know that the military had cleaned out the infected by shooting them. The revelation was that healthy people were among those shot by the patrols. I feel like you are so intent on finding things wrong that you invent entire scenarios, or you have no imagination or common sense. The other possibility is that you don't pay attention.

 
I dug it. Doc basically figuring out anyone that is a potential threat and removing them so they don't have an outbreak in the community. Gotta have some reason for the community to go to #### and leave the compound I guess.
I liked the aspect of taking away sick people. Looking like a roach motel situation. Kind of surprised that the doc had the "nurse" come along with her to the hospital. Not sure what that's about but my initial thought is that the Dr. doesn't care for what's going on at the hospital and is trying to enlist a confederate.
good take. also "nurse" feels guilty that she got druggie taken away so she follows.

 
I dug it. Doc basically figuring out anyone that is a potential threat and removing them so they don't have an outbreak in the community. Gotta have some reason for the community to go to #### and leave the compound I guess.
I liked the aspect of taking away sick people. Looking like a roach motel situation. Kind of surprised that the doc had the "nurse" come along with her to the hospital. Not sure what that's about but my initial thought is that the Dr. doesn't care for what's going on at the hospital and is trying to enlist a confederate.
good take. also "nurse" feels guilty that she got druggie taken away so she follows.
Yep, I think the Doc doesn't feel good about what is going on with the guy running things. They clearly have thrown him in as the bad guy. The key people now know that the military is bad. Maybe not all of them, but certainly the guy running things.

 
This was a solid episode. They kept the storyline progressing, and now we're starting to see the lights come on with some of the main characters.

 
A little tired of the "evil military and corrupt shadow government" trope. Maybe try the well intentioned troops but due to circumstances, they fail. Would like to root for the military in one of these shows for once.
:goodposting:

I'm enjoying the show, and this criticism isn't meant to be "OMG this show suxor -- can't wait to watch next week so I can rip it again!!1!" That said, I told my son as soon as the soldiers showed up that now the real villains have arrived, and sure enough they went right along with the standard cliche. I wouldn't have a problem with this plot device if we were a year or so into the future, when everybody has gone into full survival-at-all costs mode and stray groups of military personnel might not be any better than anybody else, but it just isn't credible that we go straight to Latin American death squads with no intermediate stages. It's also not credible, even by the rules of the genre, that the entire population of LA just quietly disappears except for this one little neighborhood without anybody knowing what happened.

Still, it's an entertaining Sunday night and I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when the military camp inevitably gets overrun.
true- but they made it a point to say that 9 days have passed since the soldiers showed up, so things could have gone downhill in a hurry

 
It's also not credible, even by the rules of the genre, that the entire population of LA just quietly disappears except for this one little neighborhood without anybody knowing what happened.
If you're going to question credibility then maybe try paying attention. This is one of 8 or 9 safe zones in just this one area of LA.
Yeah, I did pay attention. The people in this safe zone can see a couple of miles in every direction just from sitting on the roof. If the military did a house-by-house clean-up operation in the surrounding area, everybody would have seen it taking place. For example, the dad has no problem clearly seeing gunfire in one building off in the distance. But apparently people were gunned down in the streets, and armed patrols are still taking place in broad daylight, and that's somehow a secret to everybody except the one lady who snuck out.

Again, I'm enjoying the show. This particular direction of the story just doesn't allow for suspension of disbelief IMO.
The lady that snuck out seemed to know that the military had cleaned out the infected by shooting them. The revelation was that healthy people were among those shot by the patrols. I feel like you are so intent on finding things wrong that you invent entire scenarios, or you have no imagination or common sense. The other possibility is that you don't pay attention.
Agreed. I think the people knew the military was clearing out the infected (pretty sure no one is naive enough to think that doesn't entail shooting them) and supposedly taking other survivors to other safe zones, etc. The revelation that they didn't know was that they were also killing non-infected. The lady saw it, confirmed it to the barber and Travis saw it as well.

That said, very clear that the military has no idea on the infection and that wearing bio-hazard suits does nothing. They assume anyone that could be close to death (I am sure they know by now that the dead turn) or could kill themselves (like druggie Depp) is a threat.

 
This was a solid episode. They kept the storyline progressing, and now we're starting to see the lights come on with some of the main characters.
I agree. While some may not like the pace, I like that these people are a bit clueless. If zombies didn't exist in any folklore at all, I could see people reacting this way out of disbelief or even being so afraid that they don't want to believe. I didn't want TWD: Los Angeles where it was a carbon copy with different characters.

 
It's going to be interesting to see how the safe zones end up failing. Because when it's all said and done the safe zones seem like they have very little risk of being overrun. At least the one we're watching. I assume it's going to be the normal civilians killing off military folk and causing turmoil. The fence doesn't seem all that strong, but probably strong enough for the dead since we have so many armed guardsmen shooting everyone they see.

 
It's going to be interesting to see how the safe zones end up failing. Because when it's all said and done the safe zones seem like they have very little risk of being overrun. At least the one we're watching. I assume it's going to be the normal civilians killing off military folk and causing turmoil. The fence doesn't seem all that strong, but probably strong enough for the dead since we have so many armed guardsmen shooting everyone they see.
especially the part where the mom cut through it--

 
This was a solid episode. They kept the storyline progressing, and now we're starting to see the lights come on with some of the main characters.
I agree. While some may not like the pace, I like that these people are a bit clueless. If zombies didn't exist in any folklore at all, I could see people reacting this way out of disbelief or even being so afraid that they don't want to believe. I didn't want TWD: Los Angeles where it was a carbon copy with different characters.
Other than maybe old man Daniel there is no real chance of any badassness from this group. I thought maybe it would be Madison after killing her first zombie and then almost taking out zombie Susan, but, she's back to complaining about people sick in her house and housework. Travis is the biggest ##### alive and there is no way he should make it to next season. I didn't think they could make a zombie soap worse than TWD, I was wrong.

 
What about the soldier hooking up with hot latina chick? He is an actor a lot of us has seen before. He may stick, and turn into that "bad ###" we are all looking for. Maybe.

 
It's going to be interesting to see how the safe zones end up failing. Because when it's all said and done the safe zones seem like they have very little risk of being overrun. At least the one we're watching. I assume it's going to be the normal civilians killing off military folk and causing turmoil. The fence doesn't seem all that strong, but probably strong enough for the dead since we have so many armed guardsmen shooting everyone they see.
especially the part where the mom cut through it--
Yeah, but the zombies are just kind of walking into it and I think it should hold up to that as long as the population stays low. And with all those guardsmen shooting at everything that moves there's not a lot of reason to think there will be hundreds and thousands of zombies piling up.

 
We need some more likeable characters. There is none.
I like Druggie Depp. Stealing that morphine was a master stroke.
:goodposting:

This episode was awesome even though there wasn't a single zombie. I love seeing how regular people react to unimaginable situations. It's far too early to dismiss anyone as a potential badass. The Governor was a boring office worker. Carol was a battered house wife. Glenn delivered pizza. We didn't see them right after the apocalypse began. This group is barely two weeks into this thing.

And the safe zones will be overrun from the inside. There will be an accidental or some other kind of unexpected death.

 
We need some more likeable characters. There is none.
I like Druggie Depp. Stealing that morphine was a master stroke.
:goodposting:

This episode was awesome even though there wasn't a single zombie. I love seeing how regular people react to unimaginable situations. It's far too early to dismiss anyone as a potential badass. The Governor was a boring office worker. Carol was a battered house wife. Glenn delivered pizza. We didn't see them right after the apocalypse began. This group is barely two weeks into this thing.

And the safe zones will be overrun from the inside. There will be an accidental or some other kind of unexpected death.
With the care they are taking with people who are ill (see Johnny Creep), it is difficult to imagine a one-off death causing the whole community to turn. The National Guard is likely quartered independently from the non-military people living in the safe zones. I would think that while one safe zone could be wiped out due to internal strife with the NG, resulting in mass deaths of NG and non-NG, the majority of the safe zones would be wiped out by mass waves of zombies (ala the prison whitewash).

 
We need some more likeable characters. There is none.
I like Druggie Depp. Stealing that morphine was a master stroke.
:goodposting:

This episode was awesome even though there wasn't a single zombie. I love seeing how regular people react to unimaginable situations. It's far too early to dismiss anyone as a potential badass. The Governor was a boring office worker. Carol was a battered house wife. Glenn delivered pizza. We didn't see them right after the apocalypse began. This group is barely two weeks into this thing.

And the safe zones will be overrun from the inside. There will be an accidental or some other kind of unexpected death.
With the care they are taking with people who are ill (see Johnny Creep), it is difficult to imagine a one-off death causing the whole community to turn. The National Guard is likely quartered independently from the non-military people living in the safe zones. I would think that while one safe zone could be wiped out due to internal strife with the NG, resulting in mass deaths of NG and non-NG, the majority of the safe zones would be wiped out by mass waves of zombies (ala the prison whitewash).
If one member of a five-person home passes, all five could turn before any of them know what's going on. Then it's on, yo!

Those in this thread who are complaining about these characters acting like they don't know they are in a zombie apocalypse are hilarious. If "people were getting sick" all around me, I sure wouldn't think "zombie apocalypse" because such an event is impossible.

 
We need some more likeable characters. There is none.
the daughter. preferably next episode will be her floating on the mattress in the pool with a thong bikini and no top.
That little sundress was nice. Killer legs.
I think next episode, we see some inappropriate sexual advances from some of the soldiers. This will be the slap in the face they need to confirm civilization is dwindling and they need to toughen up.
 
It's going to be interesting to see how the safe zones end up failing. Because when it's all said and done the safe zones seem like they have very little risk of being overrun. At least the one we're watching. I assume it's going to be the normal civilians killing off military folk and causing turmoil. The fence doesn't seem all that strong, but probably strong enough for the dead since we have so many armed guardsmen shooting everyone they see.
especially the part where the mom cut through it--
Yeah, but the zombies are just kind of walking into it and I think it should hold up to that as long as the population stays low. And with all those guardsmen shooting at everything that moves there's not a lot of reason to think there will be hundreds and thousands of zombies piling up.
The population of the greater LA area is north of 18 million people. At some point the numbers just don't fit your scenario without more than just guardsmen with machine guns.

 
It's going to be interesting to see how the safe zones end up failing. Because when it's all said and done the safe zones seem like they have very little risk of being overrun. At least the one we're watching. I assume it's going to be the normal civilians killing off military folk and causing turmoil. The fence doesn't seem all that strong, but probably strong enough for the dead since we have so many armed guardsmen shooting everyone they see.
especially the part where the mom cut through it--
Yeah, but the zombies are just kind of walking into it and I think it should hold up to that as long as the population stays low. And with all those guardsmen shooting at everything that moves there's not a lot of reason to think there will be hundreds and thousands of zombies piling up.
The population of the greater LA area is north of 18 million people. At some point the numbers just don't fit your scenario without more than just guardsmen with machine guns.
You might be right, and I don't live in LA. But in Denver (much smaller I know) the suburbs aren't much different than much smaller cities with population density. If you assume the zombies aren't going to travel much distance then a hundred or so guardsmen should keep the numbers of zombies down in the immediate area without much problem. If you assume 10 miles or so aren't that crazy for a zombie to travel over a couple weeks then I agree the numbers are there to overrun this type of place.

 
It's also not credible, even by the rules of the genre, that the entire population of LA just quietly disappears except for this one little neighborhood without anybody knowing what happened.
If you're going to question credibility then maybe try paying attention. This is one of 8 or 9 safe zones in just this one area of LA.
Yeah, I did pay attention. The people in this safe zone can see a couple of miles in every direction just from sitting on the roof. If the military did a house-by-house clean-up operation in the surrounding area, everybody would have seen it taking place. For example, the dad has no problem clearly seeing gunfire in one building off in the distance. But apparently people were gunned down in the streets, and armed patrols are still taking place in broad daylight, and that's somehow a secret to everybody except the one lady who snuck out.

Again, I'm enjoying the show. This particular direction of the story just doesn't allow for suspension of disbelief IMO.
The lady that snuck out seemed to know that the military had cleaned out the infected by shooting them. The revelation was that healthy people were among those shot by the patrols. I feel like you are so intent on finding things wrong that you invent entire scenarios, or you have no imagination or common sense. The other possibility is that you don't pay attention.
I think you have me confused with somebody else. As far as I know, this is the first story-related item that I've had an issue with, and as I said twice, I like this show overall -- it's not Breaking Bad, but it's perfectly watchable and enjoyable taken on its own terms.

 
It's going to be interesting to see how the safe zones end up failing. Because when it's all said and done the safe zones seem like they have very little risk of being overrun. At least the one we're watching. I assume it's going to be the normal civilians killing off military folk and causing turmoil. The fence doesn't seem all that strong, but probably strong enough for the dead since we have so many armed guardsmen shooting everyone they see.
especially the part where the mom cut through it--
Yeah, but the zombies are just kind of walking into it and I think it should hold up to that as long as the population stays low. And with all those guardsmen shooting at everything that moves there's not a lot of reason to think there will be hundreds and thousands of zombies piling up.
The population of the greater LA area is north of 18 million people. At some point the numbers just don't fit your scenario without more than just guardsmen with machine guns.
You might be right, and I don't live in LA. But in Denver (much smaller I know) the suburbs aren't much different than much smaller cities with population density. If you assume the zombies aren't going to travel much distance then a hundred or so guardsmen should keep the numbers of zombies down in the immediate area without much problem. If you assume 10 miles or so aren't that crazy for a zombie to travel over a couple weeks then I agree the numbers are there to overrun this type of place.
Good luck with that. You're in one of the fenced in areas surrounded by burbs, not the other way around. The whole idea that they could have even established safe zones is rather absurd. Look it up on google earth view and zoom in a little bit to get an idea of what you'd be dealing with.

 
Good luck with that. You're in one of the fenced in areas surrounded by burbs, not the other way around. The whole idea that they could have even established safe zones is rather absurd. Look it up on google earth view and zoom in a little bit to get an idea of what you'd be dealing with.
True, but that's sort of the point. Right now, everybody is overly optimistic about things. The audience knows that that fence and a few humvees is a laughable defense based on what we've seen from TWD, but nobody on the show realizes that yet. They're still figuring this stuff out.

 
The people rise up vs the natl guard, many die and then turn to zombies, destroying the illusion of a safe place. Season 2 is the remaining people getting away

 
Good luck with that. You're in one of the fenced in areas surrounded by burbs, not the other way around. The whole idea that they could have even established safe zones is rather absurd. Look it up on google earth view and zoom in a little bit to get an idea of what you'd be dealing with.
True, but that's sort of the point. Right now, everybody is overly optimistic about things. The audience knows that that fence and a few humvees is a laughable defense based on what we've seen from TWD, but nobody on the show realizes that yet. They're still figuring this stuff out.
Its actually a very reasonable defense against these lumbering zombies.

I still don't understand how they took over. A baby could smash their skull in with a duplo.

 
Good luck with that. You're in one of the fenced in areas surrounded by burbs, not the other way around. The whole idea that they could have even established safe zones is rather absurd. Look it up on google earth view and zoom in a little bit to get an idea of what you'd be dealing with.
True, but that's sort of the point. Right now, everybody is overly optimistic about things. The audience knows that that fence and a few humvees is a laughable defense based on what we've seen from TWD, but nobody on the show realizes that yet. They're still figuring this stuff out.
Its actually a very reasonable defense against these lumbering zombies.I still don't understand how they took over. A baby could smash their skull in with a duplo.
Not at first

 
Good luck with that. You're in one of the fenced in areas surrounded by burbs, not the other way around. The whole idea that they could have even established safe zones is rather absurd. Look it up on google earth view and zoom in a little bit to get an idea of what you'd be dealing with.
True, but that's sort of the point. Right now, everybody is overly optimistic about things. The audience knows that that fence and a few humvees is a laughable defense based on what we've seen from TWD, but nobody on the show realizes that yet. They're still figuring this stuff out.
:shrug:

If you assume the zombies aren't going to travel much distance then a hundred or so guardsmen should keep the numbers of zombies down in the immediate area without much problem.
 
We need some more likeable characters. There is none.
I like Druggie Depp. Stealing that morphine was a master stroke.
:goodposting:

This episode was awesome even though there wasn't a single zombie. I love seeing how regular people react to unimaginable situations. It's far too early to dismiss anyone as a potential badass. The Governor was a boring office worker. Carol was a battered house wife. Glenn delivered pizza. We didn't see them right after the apocalypse began. This group is barely two weeks into this thing.

And the safe zones will be overrun from the inside. There will be an accidental or some other kind of unexpected death.
With the care they are taking with people who are ill (see Johnny Creep), it is difficult to imagine a one-off death causing the whole community to turn. The National Guard is likely quartered independently from the non-military people living in the safe zones. I would think that while one safe zone could be wiped out due to internal strife with the NG, resulting in mass deaths of NG and non-NG, the majority of the safe zones would be wiped out by mass waves of zombies (ala the prison whitewash).
If one member of a five-person home passes, all five could turn before any of them know what's going on. Then it's on, yo!

Those in this thread who are complaining about these characters acting like they don't know they are in a zombie apocalypse are hilarious. If "people were getting sick" all around me, I sure wouldn't think "zombie apocalypse" because such an event is impossible.
Based on your scenario, I can see a small outbreak which may put a limited number of individuals at risk, but such an outbreak would be pretty easily contained by the National Guard. Now that people understand that people who are bitten or die turn, you're not going to see a hospital burn like two episodes ago. Its got to be numerous deaths in an uncontrolled environment or a zombie tsunami.

 
Some of these neighborhoods are populated with 30,000+ people per square mile.

Looking forward to East LA Homie and Chinatown zombies.

ETA: Oh, Hollywood hooker zombie!

 
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It's also not credible, even by the rules of the genre, that the entire population of LA just quietly disappears except for this one little neighborhood without anybody knowing what happened.
If you're going to question credibility then maybe try paying attention. This is one of 8 or 9 safe zones in just this one area of LA.
Yeah, I did pay attention. The people in this safe zone can see a couple of miles in every direction just from sitting on the roof. If the military did a house-by-house clean-up operation in the surrounding area, everybody would have seen it taking place. For example, the dad has no problem clearly seeing gunfire in one building off in the distance. But apparently people were gunned down in the streets, and armed patrols are still taking place in broad daylight, and that's somehow a secret to everybody except the one lady who snuck out.

Again, I'm enjoying the show. This particular direction of the story just doesn't allow for suspension of disbelief IMO.
The lady that snuck out seemed to know that the military had cleaned out the infected by shooting them. The revelation was that healthy people were among those shot by the patrols. I feel like you are so intent on finding things wrong that you invent entire scenarios, or you have no imagination or common sense. The other possibility is that you don't pay attention.
I think you have me confused with somebody else. As far as I know, this is the first story-related item that I've had an issue with, and as I said twice, I like this show overall -- it's not Breaking Bad, but it's perfectly watchable and enjoyable taken on its own terms.
That may be the case, and for that I apologize.

 
Those in this thread who are complaining about these characters acting like they don't know they are in a zombie apocalypse are hilarious. If "people were getting sick" all around me, I sure wouldn't think "zombie apocalypse" because such an event is impossible.
How many times would the sick people have to be munching down on your dog or attacking your family members before you started calling them monsters?

 
Those in this thread who are complaining about these characters acting like they don't know they are in a zombie apocalypse are hilarious. If "people were getting sick" all around me, I sure wouldn't think "zombie apocalypse" because such an event is impossible.
How many times would the sick people have to be munching down on your dog or attacking your family members before you started calling them monsters?
Man: Two?

Announcer: Guess again.

Man: Three?

Announcer: A little higher.

Man: Four?

Announcer: Keep trying.

Man: Five?

Announcer: No, you'll have to do better than that.

Man: Seven?

Announcer: Guess again.

Man: Eight?

Announcer: We'll give you one more guess.

Man: Nine.

Announcer: Not even close.

 
Good luck with that. You're in one of the fenced in areas surrounded by burbs, not the other way around. The whole idea that they could have even established safe zones is rather absurd. Look it up on google earth view and zoom in a little bit to get an idea of what you'd be dealing with.
True, but that's sort of the point. Right now, everybody is overly optimistic about things. The audience knows that that fence and a few humvees is a laughable defense based on what we've seen from TWD, but nobody on the show realizes that yet. They're still figuring this stuff out.
:shrug:

If you assume the zombies aren't going to travel much distance then a hundred or so guardsmen should keep the numbers of zombies down in the immediate area without much problem.
Well obviously with The Walking Dead these didn't hold up or there would still be civilization, so we know that these won't hold up in Fear The Walking Dead.

But from what we've seen it should be more than enough. The old lady zombie was stopped by a wooden fence. The guardsmen are going out there and shooting everything that moves in the head. We don't see anything near the fences and if they keep shooting what they see there won't be enough zombies to break the fence down.

And it's basically the same defense we see in Roanoke and in the prison and both of those are/were effective for quite some time. So I'm not sure it's so laughable.

 

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