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**** official February shark pool "what I want my team to do" mock draft ****. Round 4 starts on page 16 (1 Viewer)

3.76 the Packers select Nick Nelson CB Wisconsin.

No time for a decent write-up, but the Packers don't have much CB depth, so I will try to address that here. 

 
Biabreakable said:
The Miami Dolphins select Jerome Baker OLB Ohio State.

Considered five different players for Miami here but ultimately decided that Baker fills the biggest need for the Dolphins at this point. I wish he was a bit stronger and played off of blocks better than he does, but maybe that is something that he can improve on in the NFL. He has very good speed, reacts quickly in coverage to his assignment. May not be an early down player early in his career but still has a role in cover packages and he can be an effective blitzer.

I read an interesting thing about Baker that he was used as a spy on Sanquon Barkley and responsible for sniffing out those draw plays and keeping Barkley from doing too much in that game.

Also hat tip to @jtd13 who I consulted with about who the best pick for Miami might be. Baker was his top option of several players he was considering. I ended up agreeing with him. If I had selected Roquan Smith in the first round instead of Joshua Jackson then this pick likely would have been to address the secondary.

jtd13 you are on the clock for the Pack
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Yeah, I like Baker for what he brings in coverage, mostly. A lot of his tape did not impress me. He seems to end up sort of near the play a lot of the time, but doesn't make a lot of aggressive moves to the ball unless he has a really clear shot at the ball carrier. Even still, he has very good measurables and fills a huge need for Miami in coverage against opposing TEs and RBs. Hopefully, a coach can teach him to be more aggressive and tap more into that ability in time. 

 
3.77 cincinatti bengals select 

Luke Falk, qb Washington st

Perhaps the current front office looks more at immediate needs while they try to save their jobs, but with mccarron gone there is a void at backup qb. Falk could develop for a year behind dalton, then get rid of dalton for no dead money after this year. 

 
krsone21 said:
3.75 Oakland Raiders select Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon

The Raiders need to settle their RT position and Crosby can come in and start there on day one and maybe in a year or two slide over to LT once the Raiders move on from Penn. 

Oakland Raiders:

1. Denzel Ward CB Ohio State

2. Harrison Phillips DT Standford

3. Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon
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Nice pick

 
Snorkelson said:
Houston is on the clock- is this their first pick?
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Second pick. I took Braden Smith for them with their earlier 3rd. If you want, or someone else wants, go ahead and pick. I'll update the first post on the morning. 

 
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3.80 - Baltimore (from Houston) selects Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State

... but seriously though, this is probably the Bengals' best bet here.

 
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I switched the bengals to dalton Schultz te Stanford.....hope his name hasn’t been crossed off yet.

and that he declared and all that.....

 
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Mr. Irrelevant said:
3.80 - Baltimore (from Houston) selects Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State

... but seriously though, this is probably the Bengals' best bet here.
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Is this the actual pick? If so, good pick. And how did BAL get that pick? Other than trying to beat Cincy to the podium on their re-pick at #79.

 
Mr. Irrelevant said:
3.80 - Baltimore (from Houston) selects Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State

... but seriously though, this is probably the Bengals' best bet here.
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I was considering this guy for Miami along with Baker who I ultimately had them select.

I was somewhat wondering why he was still available. Highest graded player remaining from LZ's list and also ranked as the 9th tackle by Walter Football. Some linemen ranked lower than him, like at least 3 or 4 of them were selected ahead of him and I was curious why?

Then I watched this game against USC and I saw some really bad misses on inside moves, lunging at missed outside speed rushes, general apathy and lack of awareness and play that reminded me of TJ Clemmings.

Add on top of that that Miami has two good tackles already this becomes a problem if I do not move Jones or Tunsil inside to guard for awhile. Could be a problem if Tunsil is the guy who is moved. He loses another year of practice and experience as the left tackle if they move him inside. He gets unhappy thinking about upcoming free agency opportunity if he is playing guard instead of tackle and Jones might not be any better than how Tunsil played last year, in fact he likely isn't, at least as a rookie and Tunsil did not play that well there last season.

If they moved Jones inside, he struggles against stronger bull rushers so I think he might be worse than Tunsil was inside, which wasn't that bad and likely was better than how he played at tackle last year.

In other words Jones doesn't really fit and would be the swing tackle. I still want to shoot for starters in round 3. Bakers flaws were something I could live with a bit easier than Jones.

 
Nucular George said:
Is this the actual pick? If so, good pick. And how did BAL get that pick? Other than trying to beat Cincy to the podium on their re-pick at #79.
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Nope, that's it.  :P

If DAL or DET wants him, he's theirs. Otherwise I'll gladly scoop him up when my turn actually comes around.

 
Snorkelson said:
3.77 cincinatti bengals select 

Luke Falk, qb Washington st

Perhaps the current front office looks more at immediate needs while they try to save their jobs, but with mccarron gone there is a void at backup qb. Falk could develop for a year behind dalton, then get rid of dalton for no dead money after this year. 
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Was kinda hoping Falk would backup Mariota.

Mr. Irrelevant said:
This is where I offer a 6th-rounder to Houston to move up 3 spots and have Ozzie sprint to the podium before the Bengals realize what happened.
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Accepted

 
As per a PM convo with ILov80s, I’ll be selecting for Detroit if he isn’t online at the time 

 
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-OZ- said:
Was kinda hoping Falk would backup Mariota.
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I think there’s a drop off from Falk to the next tier of qbs. He may be the best pure passer in the class imo- strong and accurate. He doesn’t have quite the power of Lamar Jackson or the accuracy of mayfield, but I think has a better combination of both than those guys. Needs time to adjust to the pro game. Probably a 2nd rd pick in most draft classes. 

 
I would guess we could pick for Dallas. He said this earlier...

If I can't respond right away maybe the group can intervene and decide based on this post as a guide?

In case I am away for an extended period here are my draft thoughts. My Cowboys team needs ranked in order:

WR- Regardless of whether Dez is released, restructured or back "as is" - this team needs another option at WR.  Looking for better route running, ability to generate separation and has vertical abilities.  

LB - Sean Lee is so under-rated it's not even funny. He is getting old and struggles to stay on the field.  Jaylon Smith continues to recover and improve his play.  This team is paper thin at Backer and I believe this will be addressed early rounds in the draft.

FS- I am sick of the Bryon Jones experiment.  He is not a FS.  He is a press corner or slot CB.  Decent coverage skills, but can't and won't tackle.  This team needs Earl Thomas, but if that doesn't happen. I expect new DB's coach Kris Richards banging the table for a true Free Safety.

1 Tech- We struggled against strong inside running teams.  Need a big DT to cause some havoc and eat up blockers and let our LB's clean up.

TE- Witten. Love you man, retire already though. Need guys to get open and generate separation.  Not sure what we have with Rico Gathers yet either.

OT- The Atlanta game with no Tyron Smith showed why this has to be addressed from a depth standpoint and with the nagging back issues for Tyron.

CB- Like QB's I would always look at what is available.  You can never have too many good ones.

Other general comments:

Draft BPA - with exceptions to a couple spots that simply are not round 1 team needs (QB/RB/DE/O-line) The OT can wait at least until round 2 

No trading up in round 1 and no reaching we have plenty of needs, no need to reach for any one player.

No position "projects", they have to play the position. Sick of "projects" especially in the early rounds.

ONLY draft players from big schools, players with no current injuries and team Captains preferred.

 
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That is exactly who Lov81 wanted to take ! Moore at WR and the Cowboys grab him

Detroit Lions select Rashaad Penny RB San Diego State 

Could maybe be this years Kareem Hunt or David Johnson type. I’d have thought about beefing up LB here but don’t know enough about the pool that is left here at this point 

Excuse the briefness I’m currently on an airport runway about to take off to Warsaw for a stag do. And am already drunk 

 
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3.84 Los Angeles Chargers select... Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond

Philip Rivers will turn 37 during the 2018 season. Lauletta does not have a big arm but his accuracy in the short to medium games is exceptional. Shows patience in the pocket and sets up well in the drop. Able to slide away from pressure while keeping his eyes down field. Throws very well on the move but needs work on his deep ball accuracy.

Comes from a strong football family and his work ethic and leadership are well noted. At 6'3" and 215lbs will need to get stronger but has many of traits needed to be an NFL starter. MVP of the Senior Bowl.

NFL comparison: Jimmy Garoppolo.

 
TartanLion said:
That is exactly who Lov81 wanted to take ! Moore at WR and the Cowboys grab him

Detroit Lions select Rashaad Penny RB San Diego State 

Could maybe be this years Kareem Hunt or David Johnson type. I’d have thought about beefing up LB here but don’t know enough about the pool that is left here at this point 

Excuse the briefness I’m currently on an airport runway about to take off to Warsaw for a stag do. And am already drunk 
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Thanks buddy- Good pick. It fills a major major need to get a power RB.   If he tests well at his size, he could go in the 2nd. I was really excited for DJ Moore as he's my top rated WR right now and is a perfect replacement for Golden Tate (last year of his deal) but Penny fills a much bigger immediate need.

 
Ben & Jerry's said:
3.84 Los Angeles Chargers select... Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond

Philip Rivers will turn 37 during the 2018 season. Lauletta does not have a big arm but his accuracy in the short to medium games is exceptional. Shows patience in the pocket and sets up well in the drop. Able to slide away from pressure while keeping his eyes down field. Throws very well on the move but needs work on his deep ball accuracy.

Comes from a strong football family and his work ethic and leadership are well noted. At 6'3" and 215lbs will need to get stronger but has many of traits needed to be an NFL starter. MVP of the Senior Bowl.

NFL comparison: Jimmy Garoppolo.
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Ugh. Really liked your first two picks, but don't like this one at all. First off, IMO it is a year too early for the Chargers to take a QB of the future; secondly, the odds of the 3.84 pick and 7th QB drafted being that guy are virtually nil.

 
Just Win Baby said:
Ugh. Really liked your first two picks, but don't like this one at all. First off, IMO it is a year too early for the Chargers to take a QB of the future; secondly, the odds of the 3.84 pick and 7th QB drafted being that guy are virtually nil.
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When I was looking at the qbs for Cincy I was debating taking more oline and target Lauletta later. While it may be a reach, I don’t think it’s inconceivable that a lot of qbs get drafted, and if you’re those teams like nyg, lac, NO, NE, etc I want a guy in learning now- so what if they guy sits behind the starter for 2-3 years as a third rd pick? I don’t think the top 5-6 qbs last much into rd 2, so if you want some of these other guys who are very nice prospects in a loaded class you probably can’t wait until the 5th. 

 
86 Kansas City 

Auden Tate, WR, FSU

Tate should serve as a very good #3 target for Mahomes. While Tyreek has the speed to kill, and Kelce is the man, Tate brings the size to win contested passes and in the end zone. 

 
Snorkelson said:
if you’re those teams like nyg, lac, NO, NE, etc I want a guy in learning now
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Yes, this is why the Chargers traded for former 4th round pick Cardale Jones, with whom HC Anthony Lynn was familiar from Buffalo. He is supposed to be that guy, unless they have already given up on him.

Snorkelson said:
so what if they guy sits behind the starter for 2-3 years as a third rd pick?
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One of the biggest advantages teams have nowadays is having a starting QB on a rookie contract. Having a rookie QB sitting for 2-3 years isn't bad on some levels, but it is squandering that advantage. With a QB drafted after the first round, there is no 5th year option, so 3 years on the bench means only 1 year starting at a discount to most other NFL starting QBs.

Snorkelson said:
I don’t think the top 5-6 qbs last much into rd 2, so if you want some of these other guys who are very nice prospects in a loaded class you probably can’t wait until the 5th.
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I don't disagree with this sentiment, but I do disagree with the bolded assumption.

Rivers just made the Pro Bowl, has 2 years remaining under contract, and has indicated he wants to play longer than that. Meanwhile, the team has a strong pass rush which includes Bosa on a rookie contract and has a very strong secondary, which includes Hayward on a cheap contract relative to his play and Trevor Williams on a rookie contract. These circumstances along with Rivers' age make it appropriate to think the Chargers have a 2-3 year window to make a real push for postseason success. Drafting a QB to sit in the third round instead of a player at a position of need (C, OT, DT, LB, backup RB for Gordon) does not fit that perspective. :shrug:

 
Just Win Baby said:
Yes, this is why the Chargers traded for former 4th round pick Cardale Jones, with whom HC Anthony Lynn was familiar from Buffalo. He is supposed to be that guy, unless they have already given up on him.

One of the biggest advantages teams have nowadays is having a starting QB on a rookie contract. Having a rookie QB sitting for 2-3 years isn't bad on some levels, but it is squandering that advantage. With a QB drafted after the first round, there is no 5th year option, so 3 years on the bench means only 1 year starting at a discount to most other NFL starting QBs.

I don't disagree with this sentiment, but I do disagree with the bolded assumption.

Rivers just made the Pro Bowl, has 2 years remaining under contract, and has indicated he wants to play longer than that. Meanwhile, the team has a strong pass rush which includes Bosa on a rookie contract and has a very strong secondary, which includes Hayward on a cheap contract relative to his play and Trevor Williams on a rookie contract. These circumstances along with Rivers' age make it appropriate to think the Chargers have a 2-3 year window to make a real push for postseason success. Drafting a QB to sit in the third round instead of a player at a position of need (C, OT, DT, LB, backup RB for Gordon) does not fit that perspective. :shrug:
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You're making a lot of sense here. But I also want a competent backup, and/or one with the potential to win if my starter goes down. 

Maybe the prudent play is for your backup to be a veteran who has shown he can play but isn't quite good enough to start, or you try to find a Foles / Keenum, but there aren't too many QBs like that. I know I want my Titans to upgrade from Cassell. I'm just trying to figure out (in this mock) whether it makes sense to draft that guy. I don't think it will for Tennessee, but a lot of that reason is our starter is young, so we know the guy we draft (barring long term injury) will never be our slated starter. 

But with the chargers, Steelers, saints, Patriots, they don't know that. Each needs a good backup even if a few of those starters don't miss much time.

 
Titans need a corner, I think best available is Duke Dawson, CB, Florida

I'll be out for a bit, someone please pick for Atlanta.

 
Atlanta needs a safety to pair with Neal - given his system flexibility I think the best bet is

3.90 - Jessie Bates, S, Wake Forest

@Andy Dufresne - what say you?

 
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