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***OFFICIAL*** FFA Pigeon Thread (6 Viewers)

It's none of my business but just throwing this out there. Maybe if you guys owed money asked him to pay at 3 or 4/1 he would be more apt to show up and do it? Something more square with Vegas odds the day before? 

Not saying that's acceptable, just may be a way to get something. (Probably not though) 
I told the dude 100 times in the Hillary thread how stupid he was for offering such odds when you could go to Bovada or SB.ag or any other place and get around -350. If he's that dumb, #### him. 

 
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“When you think nobody cares if you’re alive, just try owing someone money"

 
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So last night we put the kids to bed early.  My wife lit some candles. I grabbed a bottle of wine and put on my favorite Panties Dropper CD.  I'll keep it PG and say we hugged so much it would've made @Nathan R. Jessep and Marissa blush.   Hell, my arms have never been so sore. 

To think we've been together for 19 years and can still hug like we are teenagers. :wub:  
Um, congrats?

 
I told the dude 100 times in the Hillary thread how stupid he was for offering such odds when you could go to Bovada or SB.ag or any other place and get around -350. If he's that dumb, #### him. 
I'm not a gambler so when those bets were going down it didn't register.  In hindsight it should have been a big red flag to those making the bets.  Maybe if he capped the bets at like 10 or 20 bucks to make some friendly wagers but this seems like he was hoping to get a few hundred or just bail.

 
I'm not a gambler so when those bets were going down it didn't register.  In hindsight it should have been a big red flag to those making the bets.  Maybe if he capped the bets at like 10 or 20 bucks to make some friendly wagers but this seems like he was hoping to get a few hundred or just bail.
He got action out of people who wouldn't bet at -350. He was cocky and it killed him. 

 
He got action out of people who wouldn't bet at -350. He was cocky and it killed him. 
So your premise isn't that he never intended to pay but he was so cocky he never thought he'd lose?  Maybe, and again, I'm not a gambler, but I would assume you always consider what happens if you lose, no?  My bigger point is the people betting with him shouldn't be that surprised - the only conclusion I can come to is that he never intended to pay, which is a shame.

 
So your premise isn't that he never intended to pay but he was so cocky he never thought he'd lose?  Maybe, and again, I'm not a gambler, but I would assume you always consider what happens if you lose, no?  My bigger point is the people betting with him shouldn't be that surprised - the only conclusion I can come to is that he never intended to pay, which is a shame.
I honestly don't think he ever thought he would have to pay. How many people have Donald a chance? Now throw in his own bias. 

 
I think the only surprising thing here is that you have a bunch of guys on the internet who made a wager, at dubious odds, with a stranger on the internet, and expected to get paid.

You're not out anything - you never had anything to begin with...

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@cstu - when you get this - send what you can to a Veterans Organization - I'm good with that, and consider us square.
This is total bs.  I probably wagered with people on this site well over 5 figures total and never been stiffed and always paid.   99% of people in the poker games paid.

 
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Welchers are the worst but threads about them are the best. 

I'm sorry that I'm sorry for loving this.
The last 15+ pages have been about this. I have caught up and each page has been hilariously entertaining. 

I enjoy cstu as a poster and think that he has provided very solid contributions to this board, regardless of weather I agree with his points or not. I hope he pops back in here and makes good in this. 

 
This is total bs.  I probably waged with people on this site well over 5 figures total and never been stiffed and always paid.   99% of people in the poker games paid.
My memory of the poker games was that we paid up front.

I am just saying - acting all butt hurt now because someone walked away from this bet - seems a bit forced.  Yes, we all would have paid him if Clinton had won - and so its a chicken #### thing to do - I am just not going to get worked up over it.

I "know" a handful of people on the board that I would wager 1000's of dollars with, if I were so inclined - CSTU would not have been one.  My bet with him was $100 , which is about my comfort level with getting paid by most people on the board.  

 
This is total bs.  I probably waged with people on this site well over 5 figures total and never been stiffed and always paid.   99% of people in the poker games paid.
I get Sein's point now that I've thought about it more.  What was cstu's motivation for giving those odds?  I can only assume because he didn't have the money to make a real bet and was hoping to make some easy cash.  In light of that it's not that difficult to believe that someone who is anonymous would just take off - especially if his wife would be pissed.  I know if I lost 2k on wagers here my wife would be pissed.  Granted, I could pay but not everyone can.

 
I told the dude 100 times in the Hillary thread how stupid he was for offering such odds when you could go to Bovada or SB.ag or any other place and get around -350. If he's that dumb, #### him. 
Stupid ctsu got caught up in all the hysteria. Post after post guys like capella were spouting that it would be a historic landslide . They believed their own narrative . Then you have Otis chumming the waters to bet , all these rubes fell for it. You never ever know exactly what is going to happen with an election. 

CTSU was one of the most obnoxious progressives here in the FFA . The chump believed the hype.

:cry:   why wasnt it. Squistion 

 
Stupid ctsu got caught up in all the hysteria. Post after post guys like capella were spouting that it would be a historic landslide . They believed their own narrative . Then you have Otis chumming the waters to bet , all these rubes fell for it. You never ever know exactly what is going to happen with an election. 

CTSU was one of the most obnoxious progressives here in the FFA . The chump believed the hype.

:cry:   why wasnt it. Squistion 
Really enjoying the victoy, huh?

Have a cigar, GB, and smile.  you won.  

 
yeah, I'm kinda surprised by this. I thought for sure he'd show by now. We had a few back and forths during the last few months but he always seemed like a decent guy. His last chance here is to say he wanted to make it a great Friday thread but in reality, even if he came back now and paid, he'd be ribbed about this forever.

Suck it up bro and take your lumps. Sure, you can salvage your screen name but even more so your integrity as a person and a man.

 
I get Sein's point now that I've thought about it more.  What was cstu's motivation for giving those odds?  
Cockiness? Maybe he's such a true believer that he couldn't fathom everyone didn't think like him.

I still think he was weak minded and bought into the medias & all the Clinton fanboys here in the FFA hype 

 
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My memory of the poker games was that we paid up front.

I am just saying - acting all butt hurt now because someone walked away from this bet - seems a bit forced.  Yes, we all would have paid him if Clinton had won - and so its a chicken #### thing to do - I am just not going to get worked up over it.

I "know" a handful of people on the board that I would wager 1000's of dollars with, if I were so inclined - CSTU would not have been one.  My bet with him was $100 , which is about my comfort level with getting paid by most people on the board.  
I collected the first week or so but it was a PITA so people just paid the next day after they loss and went on like that for a year.   Smurf turf was the only welsher.

 
Cockiness? Maybe he's such a true believer that he couldn't fathom everyone didn't think like him. 
I think it is just stupidity. He wasn't the only one touting stupid odds/wagers in the Hillary thread. One dude in there laid $2500 to win $250. I asked him if he made a habit of betting -1000 moneylines. His response was "I'm smart enough to pick up money when I see it on the ground."  :lmao:

 
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The last 15+ pages have been about this. I have caught up and each page has been hilariously entertaining. 

I enjoy cstu as a poster and think that he has provided very solid contributions to this board, regardless of weather I agree with his points or not. I hope he pops back in here and makes good in this. 
He needs to make it rain

 
Stupid ctsu got caught up in all the hysteria. Post after post guys like capella were spouting that it would be a historic landslide . They believed their own narrative . Then you have Otis chumming the waters to bet , all these rubes fell for it. You never ever know exactly what is going to happen with an election. 

CTSU was one of the most obnoxious progressives here in the FFA . The chump believed the hype.

:cry:   why wasnt it. Squistion 
I really didn't think there were that many dumb uneducated racists left in America. I was wrong. My eyes have been opened I admit. :shrug:  

 
yes.  you sure you can cover the now $1400 liability you've taken on?  i'm getting the suspicion you're taking these bets under the assumption that Trump can't win under any circumstances.  understand that he wins the election with some significantly nonzero probability.  if you can guarantee you're good for it I'm in.
:goodposting:

smart man

 
I think the only surprising thing here is that you have a bunch of guys on the internet who made a wager, at dubious odds, with a stranger on the internet, and expected to get paid.

You're not out anything - you never had anything to begin with...

:shrug:

@cstu - when you get this - send what you can to a Veterans Organization - I'm good with that, and consider us square.
So zero dollars?

 
I think it is just stupidity. He wasn't the only one touting stupid odds/wagers in the Hillary thread. One dude in there laid $2500 to win $250. I asked him if he made a habit of betting -1000 moneylines. His response was "I'm smart enough to pick up money when I see it on the ground."  :lmao:
Oh my..,please find this post and quote it. 

 
I may be wrong but I think I heard this morning that Trump won the majority of whites with college degrees
"In the 2016 election, a wide gap in presidential preferences emerged between those with and without a college degree. College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980"

 
yes.  you sure you can cover the now $1400 liability you've taken on?  i'm getting the suspicion you're taking these bets under the assumption that Trump can't win under any circumstances.  understand that he wins the election with some significantly nonzero probability.  if you can guarantee you're good for it I'm in.
Suspicion confirmed.  

 
I really didn't think there were that many dumb uneducated racists left in America. I was wrong. My eyes have been opened I admit. :shrug:  
I don't like Trump, but you don't really believe every person who voted for him was a narrow minded racist, do you?

My boss is pretty liberal, his point was pretty good - He was referring to him and me when we were talking and said we live in a bubble, the last 8 years have been great for us, market has roared, technology has been on fire, we've been doing great - factory workers, blue collar people, small business owners a lot of them have not enjoyed what we have, their wages haven't grown, and they're fed up with the establishment/political machine/elites, these people said go #### yourselves during the election. It's a pretty straightforward and understandable narrative when you look from outside of your own shoes. 

 
Graded no action.  Happens all the time on bets you should have won.  In the end you're not out anything like you were if you paid into a FF pool, win and then WCOFF pulls up shop.

I just follow the same rule as I do with lending people money or things.  If they honor their word I'm likely to do it again, if not never again.

 
Not quite. The FFA is different. There's history here. It's not like these guys made bets with "hotrod6969" who just joined the site. cstu is a long time poster here and should have expected to cover his bets....even people didn't know him on a face to face basis.
This - the guy just basically squandered 12 years and almost 65k posts over a wager that he obviously couldn't afford, or he is the biggest dbag here... One or the other.

So your premise isn't that he never intended to pay but he was so cocky he never thought he'd lose?  Maybe, and again, I'm not a gambler, but I would assume you always consider what happens if you lose, no?  My bigger point is the people betting with him shouldn't be that surprised - the only conclusion I can come to is that he never intended to pay, which is a shame.
I'm not, I took the bet and figured he'd pay the $700, I mean just about everyone here could cover that I assume, as he started taking more wagers my skepticism crept in. Whatever, good riddance. 

The last 15+ pages have been about this. I have caught up and each page has been hilariously entertaining. 

I enjoy cstu as a poster and think that he has provided very solid contributions to this board, regardless of weather I agree with his points or not. I hope he pops back in here and makes good in this. 
I've earned about $12 so far in entertainment from this, the majority of the juice has been without the worst poster on forum chiming in for the last 2 pages.

  I can only assume because he didn't have the money to make a real bet and was hoping to make some easy cash. 
This is what I'm left with at this point. 

 
I don't like Trump, but you don't really believe every person who voted for him was a narrow minded racist, do you?

My boss is pretty liberal, his point was pretty good - He was referring to him and me when we were talking and said we live in a bubble, the last 8 years have been great for us, market has roared, technology has been on fire, we've been doing great - factory workers, blue collar people, small business owners a lot of them have not enjoyed what we have, their wages haven't grown, and they're fed up with the establishment/political machine/elites, these people said go #### yourselves during the election. It's a pretty straightforward and understandable narrative when you look from outside of your own shoes. 
I think his post was just a  :pokey:  being the wise-(see edit) he is .

But there are people out there believing this stuff and next thing you know there are protests in the streets because one side loses an election. The would jump for joy if Obama cameout and appointed Clinton by fiat

 
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yeah, I'm kinda surprised by this. I thought for sure he'd show by now. We had a few back and forths during the last few months but he always seemed like a decent guy. His last chance here is to say he wanted to make it a great Friday thread but in reality, even if he came back now and paid, he'd be ribbed about this forever.

Suck it up bro and take your lumps. Sure, you can salvage your screen name but even more so your integrity as a person and a man.
I'd hold no ill will if he stepped in and took his lumps like a man, almost have more respect for him stepping into this #### storm, but it is looking like he is a huge dbag and prob won't.

I can live without the $700, won't change my life either way one bit, sure I'd prefer the money I won, but what am I gonna do, it is what it is - I wouldn't donate 12 years of my life for 2 racks, but that's just me. 

 
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I don't like Trump, but you don't really believe every person who voted for him was a narrow minded racist, do you?

My boss is pretty liberal, his point was pretty good - He was referring to him and me when we were talking and said we live in a bubble, the last 8 years have been great for us, market has roared, technology has been on fire, we've been doing great - factory workers, blue collar people, small business owners a lot of them have not enjoyed what we have, their wages haven't grown, and they're fed up with the establishment/political machine/elites, these people said go #### yourselves during the election. It's a pretty straightforward and understandable narrative when you look from outside of your own shoes. 
Yup. 

 

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