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****OFFICIAL**** Green Bay Packers Draft Thread (1 Viewer)
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Very nice work by TT.
Turning Walker and some other picks into 5 first day picks (well 6 but he traded the 6th for an early 4th and a 6th).
Hawk of course gets a high grade...love the later Hodge pick to go with him.
Colledge...maybe a bit early...needs to add a few pounds...but looks to be solid (shocking that Gilles just keeps falling.
The more I read on Spitz the more I like him.
Jennings? Well...not sold on him yet. Looks to be a project but his return skills will be valueable after losing Chatman. I would have preferred Stovall later though.
Turning Walker and some other picks into 5 first day picks (well 6 but he traded the 6th for an early 4th and a 6th).
Hawk of course gets a high grade...love the later Hodge pick to go with him.
Colledge...maybe a bit early...needs to add a few pounds...but looks to be solid (shocking that Gilles just keeps falling.
The more I read on Spitz the more I like him.
Jennings? Well...not sold on him yet. Looks to be a project but his return skills will be valueable after losing Chatman. I would have preferred Stovall later though.
Softball 3:16
Footballguy
You're right. Jean-Gillis is the big name that everyone was hoping for but he's 350 lbs. + and doesn't move well. Spitz is a guy who can play multiple positions, he can pull, he can run, he's athletic. He fits the zone blocking scheme very well. Packers need to find one starting guard in this draft. I haven't heard anything about playing Colledge at guard, looks like he's simply the future at tackle. I like Wells at center. Between Whitticker and Coston, we should get one starting guard. The other should come out of the draft.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I would have liked both.But Williams...probably just for his returns. He is not a big WR...the Donald Driver type as far as being more of a posession guy not the deep threat. Id love to see Orr landed tomorrow.
Calhoun...I agree and I hate that the Lions got him.
But TT did a hell of a job today.
cstu
Footballguy
I disagree with all the comments about Colledge being a guard. He has legit LT ability and just needs to learn technique. He has the physical skills to play LT that you can't teach and pass-blocking is something a lineman either has the ability to do or he doesn't.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
I disagree with all the comments about Colledge being a guard. He has legit LT ability and just needs to learn technique. He has the physical skills to play LT that you can't teach and pass-blocking is something a lineman either has the ability to do or he doesn't.
Got ability...but it also depends where you read. Some have him as a project...some have him as an early starter and a top 5 guard prospect.
He has bulked up every year from what I have read about him as well.
And also depends on what scheme people were really evaluating him for...going to the zone blocking may change some of that analysis.
REALLY like the Hodge pick. Several sportscasters here in MN wanted the Vikings to take Hodge, possibly with their second pick as they were very high on the guy. To get him where we did I think is a steal.
I'm a big believer in TT's strategy of getting more picks. If you look at the Packer's history most of their better players have come in at around round 3. It's always nice to have more picks so that if one doesn't pan out it's not a huge loss.
I'm happy so far.
I'm a big believer in TT's strategy of getting more picks. If you look at the Packer's history most of their better players have come in at around round 3. It's always nice to have more picks so that if one doesn't pan out it's not a huge loss.
I'm happy so far.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
I'd have to give TT a BIG 
so far.
Hodge, Hawk, and Barnett at LB turns a weakness into a strength. He's also filled some holes on the offensive line and WR position by acquiring more picks.
I'm anxious to see what he does tomorrow.
Just a side note: Over at the worst draft thread many are saying that da bears and vi-queens are in the running for the worst draft.
so far.Hodge, Hawk, and Barnett at LB turns a weakness into a strength. He's also filled some holes on the offensive line and WR position by acquiring more picks.
I'm anxious to see what he does tomorrow.
Just a side note: Over at the worst draft thread many are saying that da bears and vi-queens are in the running for the worst draft.
snorlax
Zzzzzzzzzzzz.
What are our remaining needs? What positions and players should we look for tomorrow? I think we need at least one more receiver, at least one quarterback, maybe another lineman or two, and just general defensive help. We've got a lot of picks to provide some good depth yet in this draft.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
The radio had Colledge himself saying he would probably be playing guard as the Packers talked to him about playing that position. It looks like they will try him at guard to see what he can do first.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Good article about him for the Packers...http://www.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_25822618.shtml
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Not picking on you or anything but that is not what Colledge said nor is that what Green Bay has said at all. The coaches though, and this is bothersome, said the best 5 OL men will play. They made it sound like there is no loyalty to the incumbents at all. That is a good thing but also could be very bad as those two (Taush and Clif) are the anchors to that line right now.
Kleck.
Footballguy
I'm very happy with what Green Bay got day 1, and that they will have two top 12 picks to start off day two with.
Thompson did well with trades and acquiring more picks which Green Bay needed. Losing out on Chad Jackson could be a mistake, but I really like the Jennings pick and think he is underrated. I'd like to see them grab another WR, someone like Dem Williams or Brandon Marshall could really be a nice sleeper/steal at #104 or #109.
And sweat mother of Jesus I'm stoked about their LB potential!
Thompson did well with trades and acquiring more picks which Green Bay needed. Losing out on Chad Jackson could be a mistake, but I really like the Jennings pick and think he is underrated. I'd like to see them grab another WR, someone like Dem Williams or Brandon Marshall could really be a nice sleeper/steal at #104 or #109.
And sweat mother of Jesus I'm stoked about their LB potential!
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Warning, long winded commentary coming:
Thompson seems like a very bright guy. Just no charisma ala Wolf. That hurts the casual fan's perception of him. What I like about him is he really doesn't seem to care about that. He's smart enough to realize that this team has been decimated depth and cap wise over the past half dozen years. He's smart enough to put the Packers in better money position. It cost some good players at OG, S, K. He will continue to take flak for that. He doesn't care. He's smart enough to understand that even the best GM's get one or two starters each draft, as evidenced by his turning Walker and a 2nd into multiple chances. He's confident, just not flashy.
Like many Packer fans, I was disheartened last year. Is he in complete rebuild mode? No. He's managed to make this team better this year and for the future. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Short of man-love for the guy, I've got to say I'm way pleased having him over many of the current GM's, not to mention Sherman. Fans need to understand that having a deep team, with young guys ready to play at a good level in case of injury or free agency is key. Pitt. and N.E. come to mind. Can you buy a Super Bowl? Maybe. I'd rather have it this way, though.
Do this for awhile and one day you can trade up for the missing piece.
Thompson seems like a very bright guy. Just no charisma ala Wolf. That hurts the casual fan's perception of him. What I like about him is he really doesn't seem to care about that. He's smart enough to realize that this team has been decimated depth and cap wise over the past half dozen years. He's smart enough to put the Packers in better money position. It cost some good players at OG, S, K. He will continue to take flak for that. He doesn't care. He's smart enough to understand that even the best GM's get one or two starters each draft, as evidenced by his turning Walker and a 2nd into multiple chances. He's confident, just not flashy.
Like many Packer fans, I was disheartened last year. Is he in complete rebuild mode? No. He's managed to make this team better this year and for the future. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Short of man-love for the guy, I've got to say I'm way pleased having him over many of the current GM's, not to mention Sherman. Fans need to understand that having a deep team, with young guys ready to play at a good level in case of injury or free agency is key. Pitt. and N.E. come to mind. Can you buy a Super Bowl? Maybe. I'd rather have it this way, though.
Do this for awhile and one day you can trade up for the missing piece.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
you really think they're gonna get 5 OL better than Taush and Clif?? Seriously?? I mean, even after this draft, they are still our 2 best OL...
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
That is what the coaches said, not me. They are leaving the door open to anyone and everyone.
el centro
Footballguy
I think they need to try & target @ least one more WR... Williams from Oregon is still on the board, and a DT - still a few top rated DTs as well. After that, I'd say simply depth especially along the OL & then players that can possibly contribute on Special Teams.
The Amalgamated
Footballguy
I know he has effort issues but I'm hoping for Gabe Watson in the 4th ...
kwille
Footballguy
Analysis from NFL DRAFT CLASS
DAY ONE Grade: A-
Green Bay Packers - I really like the organization's philosophy this year: bring in a lot of solid players that fit the system. Good value and smart picks throughout the day.
5. Green Bay Packers - A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State
Analysis - Solid pick for the Pack. Unlike, say, Vince Young, Hawk is a guy who has a very very low chance of failing in the NFL, and he'll be an instant contributor a defense that needs a leader. Grade: B+
47. Green Bay Packers - Daryn Colledge, OL Boise State
Analysis - Solid pick for the Packers, who needed a light, versatile lineman to fit their scheme. Grade: B
52. Green Bay Packers - Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan
Analysis - Very nice pick, Green Bay's having a solid draft. Jennings will be Javon Walker's eventual replacement. Grade: B+
67. Green Bay Packers - Abdul Hodge, ILB Iowa
Analysis - Another super solid pick for the Packers. This team has done an excellent job of adding players that can contribute immediately, and will form the base of the team for the future. Grade: A-
75. Green Bay Packers - Jason Spitz, OG Louisville
Analysis - It's clear by now that Green Bay is taking players that fit their system, and Spitz is another solid pick. Grade: B
DAY ONE Grade: A-
Green Bay Packers - I really like the organization's philosophy this year: bring in a lot of solid players that fit the system. Good value and smart picks throughout the day.
5. Green Bay Packers - A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State
Analysis - Solid pick for the Pack. Unlike, say, Vince Young, Hawk is a guy who has a very very low chance of failing in the NFL, and he'll be an instant contributor a defense that needs a leader. Grade: B+
47. Green Bay Packers - Daryn Colledge, OL Boise State
Analysis - Solid pick for the Packers, who needed a light, versatile lineman to fit their scheme. Grade: B
52. Green Bay Packers - Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan
Analysis - Very nice pick, Green Bay's having a solid draft. Jennings will be Javon Walker's eventual replacement. Grade: B+
67. Green Bay Packers - Abdul Hodge, ILB Iowa
Analysis - Another super solid pick for the Packers. This team has done an excellent job of adding players that can contribute immediately, and will form the base of the team for the future. Grade: A-
75. Green Bay Packers - Jason Spitz, OG Louisville
Analysis - It's clear by now that Green Bay is taking players that fit their system, and Spitz is another solid pick. Grade: B
gruecd
Footballguy
Cory Rodgers | Wide Receiver | TCU | 6'1" - 197 lbs. OVERVIEW
Cory is a dynamic return specialist who is also a player than needs to be accounted for by the defense every time he lines up on the field. Whether it is catching, running or returning the ball, Rodgers has proven to be one of the more electrifying players in the college game. Despite playing only three seasons at TCU, he ranks fourth in school history in receptions (150), tied for first in touchdown catches (17), first in kickoff return yardage (1,747) and second in school annals in all-purpose yardage (4,798).
Rodgers was a dual threat quarterback at Hightower High School. He twice earned All-District honors and received All-State recognition as a senior. He was a member of Texas Prep's Top 100 list. Cory was responsible for 62 touchdowns (37 passing and 25 rushing) and over 5,000 yards of offense in his final two campaigns.
He redshirted as a freshman at Texas Christian in 2002, spending the season adjusting to wide receiver from prep quarterback. He earned All-Conference USA honorable mention in 2003 for the Horned Frogs. Despite starting only three games, he led the team and ranked fourth in the conference with 1,490 all-purpose yards. He ranked second on the squad with 37 receptions for 590 yards (15.9 avg) and five touchdowns. He scored three times on 17 carries and returned 32 punts for 352 yards (11.0 avg). He also gained 509 yards on 23 kickoff returns (22.1 avg).
Rodgers garnered third-team All-Conference USA honors as both a returner and receiver in 2004. He ranked tenth in the nation with an average of 161.55 all-purpose yards per game. He led the team with a career-high 61 receptions for 836 yards (13.7 avg) and seven touch-downs. He ran for two more scores, returned 18 punts for 183 yards (10.2 avg) and had 31 kickoff returns for 723 yards (23.3 avg). His total kick return yardage of 906 yards set a school season-record.
Cory received All-American and All-Mountain West Conference honors as a kickoff returner in 2005. He ranked third in the nation with a 30.3-yard average on 17 kickoff returns with two touchdowns. He ranked eighth in the NCAA Division 1-A ranks with an average of 15.3 yards on 19 punt returns. Rodgers again led the team with 52 catches for 685 yards (13.2 avg) and five touchdowns from the "X" receiver position. He also rushed 17 times for 41 yards and five scores, finishing with 1,531 all-purpose yards.
In 36 games with the Horned Frogs, Cory started 24 times. He ranks fourth in school history with 150 receptions for 2,111 yards (14.1 avg) and a team record-tying 17 touch-downs. He carried 46 times for 115 yards (2.5 avg) and ten scores. He returned 69 punts for 825 yards (12.0 avg) and set a school record with 1,747 yards on 71 kickoff returns (24.6 avg) and a pair of touchdowns. He accounted for 174 points and 29 scores. On 336 plays, he gained 4,798 all-purpose yards, an average of 133.28 yards per game.
Billy1x
Footballguy
From NFL.com & GMJr
Rodgers is a junior who came out early for the draft. On film, he is clearly a talented receiver/returner with the talent to become a productive impact receiver in the NFL. He has good height for a receiver and has the jumping ability and hands to get up and pluck the high passes easily. He has shown a willingness to catch the high pass right before he takes the hard hit and holds onto the ball. Once he gets the ball in his hands he has consistently shown the ability to make tacklers miss, is a natural following blocks and waiting for holes to open up and has the burst to get thru the hole. He needs to do a better job of keeping his focus and catching the easy passes away from body with his hands. Overall, while he is not as good as A. Bolden of the Cardinals, I think Rodgers' success in the NFL will prove that too much stock is placed on post-season workouts (When Bolden came out of Florida State he was initially regarded as a top 15 pick in the entire NFL Draft, but when he ran in the high 4.7s at his pro day his stick began to fall and he ended being drafted in the second round by Arizona and has become an elite NFL receiver). I do not believe he is going to be as good a receiver as Bolden, but I do believe he will become a good starting receiver who consistently makes big plays running after the catch and as a returner.
Rodgers is a junior who came out early for the draft. On film, he is clearly a talented receiver/returner with the talent to become a productive impact receiver in the NFL. He has good height for a receiver and has the jumping ability and hands to get up and pluck the high passes easily. He has shown a willingness to catch the high pass right before he takes the hard hit and holds onto the ball. Once he gets the ball in his hands he has consistently shown the ability to make tacklers miss, is a natural following blocks and waiting for holes to open up and has the burst to get thru the hole. He needs to do a better job of keeping his focus and catching the easy passes away from body with his hands. Overall, while he is not as good as A. Bolden of the Cardinals, I think Rodgers' success in the NFL will prove that too much stock is placed on post-season workouts (When Bolden came out of Florida State he was initially regarded as a top 15 pick in the entire NFL Draft, but when he ran in the high 4.7s at his pro day his stick began to fall and he ended being drafted in the second round by Arizona and has become an elite NFL receiver). I do not believe he is going to be as good a receiver as Bolden, but I do believe he will become a good starting receiver who consistently makes big plays running after the catch and as a returner.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
As good as the Packers draft if going... this is frustrating.
gruecd
Footballguy
Billy1x
Footballguy
Blackmon made the switch from cornerback to wide receiver in 2005, and he is best suited to play receiver in the NFL. He has the size and strength you like in a receiver and plays surprisingly stronger than even his good size says he should. He is a very quick-footed receiver who accelerates to full speed very fast and has the shake/make-you-miss ability that makes him a very dangerous runner in the open field. He no doubt has to work on some of the fundamentals of playing receiver like routes and get-off, but he already does a good job defeating the jam and keeping the defender on his back when he runs quick hitting routes. An added bonus is that he is a very dangerous return man who will be able to make an impact returning punts and kickoffs early in his career. He is going to need some time to develop his skills to become the receiver he is capable of, and it is going to take at least a season as a backup to develop and learn the postion. In time, he will become a good starting receiver who is a dangerous big-play threat every time he touches the ball.
Souting report
Pros: Blackmon played both cornerback and receiver in addition to returning kicks. He combines good size and speed with fine instincts and playmaking ability. He has quick reactions in coverage with the fluid hips to break easily on the ball and make plays. He is able to turn and run with receivers in coverage. He is not shy about tackling and gives a good effort with a nose for the ball, though he is not a naturally physical player. He also shows the toughness to play fairly well in run support with the ability to get off blockers. He is a good return man that sees the field well and is able to create with the ball in his hands. His versatility should enhance his ranking in some situations. He would appeal to a coach like Bill Belichick who welcomes versatile guys. He is a high-character player that puts in the work to excel.
Cons: He became a victim of his own talent and unselfishness. As a senior, he played mainly at receiver, where he displayed some playmaking ability. The move helped his team, but hurt his pro potential. He is better in man than zone coverage and will need some time in a base defense after not playing on the corner.
Numbers: At the Combine, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.46 seconds with a 41” vertical jump and 11’1” broad jump with fine agility drills.
Skinny: He is similar to Nate Clements in size, speed and athleticism. He has the upside to become a good starting corner. He looked like a top-50 prospect early in his career and probably falls to the middle rounds. He is a fine first day pick that may fall to the early second day, but should get the call in the third round.
Pros: Blackmon played both cornerback and receiver in addition to returning kicks. He combines good size and speed with fine instincts and playmaking ability. He has quick reactions in coverage with the fluid hips to break easily on the ball and make plays. He is able to turn and run with receivers in coverage. He is not shy about tackling and gives a good effort with a nose for the ball, though he is not a naturally physical player. He also shows the toughness to play fairly well in run support with the ability to get off blockers. He is a good return man that sees the field well and is able to create with the ball in his hands. His versatility should enhance his ranking in some situations. He would appeal to a coach like Bill Belichick who welcomes versatile guys. He is a high-character player that puts in the work to excel.
Cons: He became a victim of his own talent and unselfishness. As a senior, he played mainly at receiver, where he displayed some playmaking ability. The move helped his team, but hurt his pro potential. He is better in man than zone coverage and will need some time in a base defense after not playing on the corner.
Numbers: At the Combine, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.46 seconds with a 41” vertical jump and 11’1” broad jump with fine agility drills.
Skinny: He is similar to Nate Clements in size, speed and athleticism. He has the upside to become a good starting corner. He looked like a top-50 prospect early in his career and probably falls to the middle rounds. He is a fine first day pick that may fall to the early second day, but should get the call in the third round.
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