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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (14 Viewers)

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Gucci Fur said:
My guess is that Trump will bring up every one of her criminal and corrupt deeds on live TV in front of millions.
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I really don't think he understands them.

IMO best thing he could do is explain how he thought his giving her money as Senator and in running for president in 08 would help his businesses overseas.

I'd like to hear how he thinks his argument that he knows the system better than anyone else directly resulted in profits for him. That would be useful and persuasive.

 
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So ridiculous... If Clinton wins VA, NC, NV, and NM she can lose FL, PA, OH, and IA and still win. I don't think the latter will happen anyway either.

Great rundown on current polling by the NYT:

Who Will Be President?


...The Upshot’s elections model suggests that Hillary Clinton is favored to win the presidency, based on the latest state and national polls. A victory by Mr. Trump remains quite possible: Mrs. Clinton’s chance of losing is about the same as the probability that an N.F.L. kicker misses a field goal. ...
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Mr. Ham said:
More deleted emails released today, by way of Huma's inbox.  More indication that the damning stuff was carefully weeded.  Should be a crime in itself.

These concerned Hillary acknowledging that her record keeping was an issue, and she had no idea if and how it was being done properly, if at all. 

The bigger concern is that there in fact was other stuff in the 31k deleted emails than Yoga routines.  

How anyone could actually support this liar is crazy.
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More previously unreleased Clinton emails emerge


Nearly three dozen new email messages to or from Hillary Clinton were released to the public on Monday, raising additional questions about the scope of the messages she had preserved for safekeeping.

The conservative organization Judicial Watch released 34 emails to or from Clinton’s personal email account that appear not to have been among the roughly 30,000 messages handed over to the State Department nearly two years ago.

The Clinton emails are among a larger cache of 165 pages of new State Department records obtained by Judicial Watch as part of an open records lawsuit.

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http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/285063-more-unreleased-clinton-emails-emerge

- One thing is Hillary is referred to as "Evergreen" in some of her emails. How someone at State would know to search and find these I have no idea. Apparently they only turned up because everything from Abedin was gone through.

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- eta - Some of it seems innocuous, but there are a bunch of redactions. For instance, on Page 62, from Mills to Hillary, would love to know what this is about:

[Redacted] will not go quietly into the night - we should talk when convenient.
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- Page 64 Abedin is writing to Doug Band of Teneo, who writes:

Is she mtg next week w Nayla Muswad from Lebanon?
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- This was the president of Lebanon. - Here it looks like Teneo is getting info from within State about Hillary's planning.

- Page 84 she is emailing Doug Band (Teneo) and Laura Graham (Clinton Foundation) info on whether Hillary will be in Haiti.

- There are other redactions of sections and names and email addresses.

- Hillary is in a bit of a perjury trap considering that she filed an affidavit saying that she had turned over everything.
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...A number of the email exchanges released Tuesday included Huma Abedin, who was a top adviser to Mrs. Clinton at the State Department and later worked at the Clinton Foundation.

In April 2009, Douglas J. Band, who led the foundation’s Clinton Global Initiative, emailed Ms. Abedin and Cheryl D. Mills, another top adviser to Mrs. Clinton, for help with a donor.

Mr. Band wrote that he needed to connect Gilbert Chagoury, a Lebanese-Nigerian billionaire who was one of the foundation’s top donors, with someone at the State Department to talk about his interests in Lebanon.

“It’s jeff feltman,” Ms. Abedin answered, referring to Jeffrey Feltman, who was the American ambassador to Lebanon at the time. “I’m sure he knows him. I’ll talk to jeff.”

Mr. Band asked her to call Mr. Chagoury immediately if possible. “This is very important,” he wrote. ...
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- NYT

Chagoury's old business partner was Marc Rich.

The earliest formation of Teneo dates to 11/18/08.

 
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I said this month's ago, but it's worth repeating:  The Clinton Foundation is the answer to the question Why did Hillary set up a personal server in the first place?

Now, we're getting to the meat of what everyone has long suspected.  Another election year, any other opponent, Hillary would be dead in the water over this stuff.  But, Trump has saved her.  It's interesting how this keeps happening, like on queue.

 
cobalt_27 said:
I said this month's ago, but it's worth repeating:  The Clinton Foundation is the answer to the question Why did Hillary set up a personal server in the first place?

Now, we're getting to the meat of what everyone has long suspected.  Another election year, any other opponent, Hillary would be dead in the water over this stuff.  But, Trump has saved her.  It's interesting how this keeps happening, like on queue.
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The fact that the FBI requested an investigation and it was shot down by the DOJ would be a campaign rocking scandal in every other election ever.

 
That said, the stuff in these email is pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things.  I think everybody except tim has probably assumed all along that foundation donors were getting special access to State, and apparently some low-ish level job openings.  This sort of thing is probably a daily occurrence in lots of circles.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
That said, the stuff in these email is pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things.  I think everybody except tim has probably assumed all along that foundation donors were getting special access to State, and apparently some low-ish level job openings.  This sort of thing is probably a daily occurrence in lots of circles.
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In the emails discussed? Yes. However the FBI wanted to open an investigation, there was something serious there.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
That said, the stuff in these email is pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things.  I think everybody except tim has probably assumed all along that foundation donors were getting special access to State, and apparently some low-ish level job openings.  This sort of thing is probably a daily occurrence in lots of circles.
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I think we've entered a time where people really don't care about what's done behind the scenes as long as it doesn't affect them personally.  I don't like it, but it's never going back to the good old days when a good scandal forced you into the shadows.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
That said, the stuff in these email is pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things.  I think everybody except tim has probably assumed all along that foundation donors were getting special access to State, and apparently some low-ish level job openings.  This sort of thing is probably a daily occurrence in lots of circles.
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The average voter doesn't care about the emails etc.  the lead just keeps getting bigger for HIllary.

 
squistion said:
   :tinfoilhat:

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We don't get along, fine.  But at some point the burden of proof reverses.  Guy was murdered under uncommonly rare circumstances.  People are not randomly gunned down without property taken anywhere, despite the perception of rampant world violence.  And Assange strongly implied he was the DNC leak.  So think everything is kosher.  It's your right.  But all is not fresh in Denmark.

Meh, plus with every reveal of more withheld data we see that the only real CONSPIRACY is between DOJ and Clinton camp to hide evidence of pay-to-play.

This is an ugly period in American politics and Hillary is the source.

And wrap your mind around this part of it:  Some people have very likely been murdered as a result.

But go ahead.  :sigh: it away.

But realize that as horrible as a Trump election, Hillary likely comes with future Seth Rich murder hearings.  Because he was likely murdered to protect her interests.  

 
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msommer said:
No, it actually doesn't
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Actually it does, when the entire system proves compromised and every glimpse behind the veil shows corruption.

And for reference, the burden of proof shifted long ago on Trump.  His comments on assassination are not banal. Nor are the links between Hillary and cover-up of quid pro quo or worse. 

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
Orlando Shooter's Dad attends Clinton Rally

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So the Democrats are a safe haven for Islamic Fundamentalists?

Is that who you want in the crowd behind you? They should have spotted him and moved him far away from the stage.

Trump could have some fun with this if used right. 
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Chappaqua 4 Hill&Tim ‏@Neighbors4Hill 31m31 minutes ago

Trump supporter & child molester Mark Foley sitting right behind DT at a Florida rally tonight.
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So the Republicans are a safe haven for pedophiles?
Is that who you want in the crowd behind you? They should have spotted Mark Foley and moved him far away from the stage.

Hillary could have some fun with this if used right. 

 
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No photo evidence? Hacked out Twitter account and it took you days to drum that up in response? 

HRC and the Democrats INVITED him to the rally, he was personally invited. 

Get out of here with that Squis, you're embarrassing yourself. 

GRAVY!!!

 
-She served 8 years as 1st Lady during a pretty robust economy and worked with her husband and the Senate/House to balance the budget...we weren't always this much in debt. 

-She served as Senator of New York 4? 8?

-She served as Sec of State for 4 years 

Her resume is filled and decorated but it also shows a unusual amount of people who go missing in the night who have anything to do with the Clintons or investigating the Clintons. 

And I understand why people will vote for her because you're socially engineered to vote for people like Hilary Clinton be it a Republican or Democrat...this election proves once and for all that there is no difference in the two parties and they mostly put on an elaborate play or pageant getting folks to buy in. 

Sanders and Trump were some type of fly in the ointment, they almost squared off but a racist Southern section of the United States that wildly voted in areas 4:1 against Sanders, that happened nowhere else except the Deep South with just 1 or 2 exceptions. If those states had been a little more even, Sanders would have almost been in a dead heat with HRC coming into the convention, it's true. 

And yet with all that said, somehow and someway the racism the South exhibits in the primaries not voting for a Jew but then it's perfectly OK to call a Trump supporter a bigot, most divisive and crazy accusations ever bestowed on an entire voting block. I watched Bill Maher say the base of the GOP is a bunch of rednecks...wow.

It's going to get ugly...

 
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