Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Blackmon surely has his risks, but why bother selling at that price?12 Team PPR
- Carolina Big TD's gave up Brown, Vincent SDC WR; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Carolina Big TD's
- BEACH HEELS gave up Blackmon, Justin JAC WR
Blackmon surely has his risks, but why bother selling at that price?12 Team PPR
- Carolina Big TD's gave up Brown, Vincent SDC WR; Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Carolina Big TD's
- BEACH HEELS gave up Blackmon, Justin JAC WR
It's not.Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I would have moved Gronk for that package even pre-Blackmon suspension.
At this point, I think the upside to this trade is that one of Blackmon/Jeffrey/1st becomes a top 10 player at their position long-term. 1 of the 3. In order for this trade to work out for the side giving up Gronk you figure at least 2, maybe all 3 need to wind up top 10 unless Gronk falls off the face of the planet.
I like the Davis/Bailey side. I think the table is set for Bailey to get some solid playing time down the stretch, and we could easily see him making a strong move up the rankings. Or not, but that's a cheap enough price to pay to find out.12 team ppr
Khiry Robinson
2014 2nd late
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Knile Davis
Stedman Bailey
Same here. I'm pretty clearly very down on Justin Blackmon, but... Vincent Brown keeps getting opportunities and keeps blowing them, and rookie 3rds are a bare step above total irrelevance. I'd gladly give that up to gamble on Blackmon. I'd probably even throw in some tic-tacs and a paperclip, while I was at it.DD88 said:I like the blackmon side by a wide margin
From the way the guy phrased this, you guys are arguing about nothing. It appears these were the net results of a few outgoing/incoming trades and not a trade in and of itself ie useless.Sure, or something could happen to Jeffery and you were just the guy who sold Rob Gronkowski for a random rookie 1st round pick.Risky, but so is holding onto Gronk when you're a rebuilding team. Anything could happen the rest of the season to crush his value. That's a solid trade for a team that's not in it.Woof. Assuming random 1sts (as opposed to, say, guaranteed top-4 picks), you might well have to add two more 1st rounders to the Jeffery/Blackmon side to get me to move Gronk for that.After making a couple of trades it worked out to be
Gronk
2nd 2014
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Jeffery
Blackmon
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3rd 2014
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I love what team A did, they should be a contender next year and with good drafting and another trade they will be dominant soon.Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, WR/TE, TE
PPR (.5 for RBs)
4pts passing TD
10 team
Keep 14 before 2014 draft Keep 20 before the 2015 draft.
Team A gives: Calvin Johnson
Team B gives: D. Thomas, CJ Spiller, 2014 1st, 2015 1st (both late; 7-10)
Team A (same from above) gives: D. Thomas
Team C gives: Josh Gordon, Gio Barnard
Team A somewhat rebuilding, but not far from contention: Best RBs before trade were D. Wilson, L. Miller, B. Tate, Z. Stacy (a few other prospects, but not sure where he will draw his keeper line) WR: are now Gordon, Julio Jones, Harvin, Jeffery, Michael Floyd, C. Patterson
Team B and C are the two team currently with a shot to win this year... team B now rolling out Calvin and Graham. Team C wasn't starting Gio and just lost Rodgers this trade allows him to stop relying on Cameron and Gordon in the same starting lineup.
I'm torn on whether team A just did something awesome, went one trade too far, or should have never touched Calvin.
I am extremely high on Calvin, but holy cow that's a major haul.Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, WR/TE, TE
PPR (.5 for RBs)
4pts passing TD
10 team
Keep 14 before 2014 draft Keep 20 before the 2015 draft.
Team A gives: Calvin Johnson
Team B gives: D. Thomas, CJ Spiller, 2014 1st, 2015 1st (both late; 7-10)
Team A (same from above) gives: D. Thomas
Team C gives: Josh Gordon, Gio Barnard
Team A somewhat rebuilding, but not far from contention: Best RBs before trade were D. Wilson, L. Miller, B. Tate, Z. Stacy (a few other prospects, but not sure where he will draw his keeper line) WR: are now Gordon, Julio Jones, Harvin, Jeffery, Michael Floyd, C. Patterson
Team B and C are the two team currently with a shot to win this year... team B now rolling out Calvin and Graham. Team C wasn't starting Gio and just lost Rodgers this trade allows him to stop relying on Cameron and Gordon in the same starting lineup.
I'm torn on whether team A just did something awesome, went one trade too far, or should have never touched Calvin.
I really like that first trade. Calvin is an upgrade over Demaryius, but Spiller and a pair of late 1sts? He's not THAT much of an upgrade.Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, WR/TE, TE
PPR (.5 for RBs)
4pts passing TD
10 team
Keep 14 before 2014 draft Keep 20 before the 2015 draft.
Team A gives: Calvin Johnson
Team B gives: D. Thomas, CJ Spiller, 2014 1st, 2015 1st (both late; 7-10)
Team A (same from above) gives: D. Thomas
Team C gives: Josh Gordon, Gio Barnard
Team A somewhat rebuilding, but not far from contention: Best RBs before trade were D. Wilson, L. Miller, B. Tate, Z. Stacy (a few other prospects, but not sure where he will draw his keeper line) WR: are now Gordon, Julio Jones, Harvin, Jeffery, Michael Floyd, C. Patterson
Team B and C are the two team currently with a shot to win this year... team B now rolling out Calvin and Graham. Team C wasn't starting Gio and just lost Rodgers this trade allows him to stop relying on Cameron and Gordon in the same starting lineup.
I'm torn on whether team A just did something awesome, went one trade too far, or should have never touched Calvin.
Team B easy.12 Team PPR
Team A got: Trent Richardson, Donald Brown, Quinton Patton and Tim Wright
Team B got: T Pryor, Roy Helu, Keenan Allen, Tyler Eifert and 2015 1st
ouch.Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
Agreed. Well played by Team A.I love what team A did, they should be a contender next year and with good drafting and another trade they will be dominant soon.Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, WR/TE, TE
PPR (.5 for RBs)
4pts passing TD
10 team
Keep 14 before 2014 draft Keep 20 before the 2015 draft.
Team A gives: Calvin Johnson
Team B gives: D. Thomas, CJ Spiller, 2014 1st, 2015 1st (both late; 7-10)
Team A (same from above) gives: D. Thomas
Team C gives: Josh Gordon, Gio Barnard
Team A somewhat rebuilding, but not far from contention: Best RBs before trade were D. Wilson, L. Miller, B. Tate, Z. Stacy (a few other prospects, but not sure where he will draw his keeper line) WR: are now Gordon, Julio Jones, Harvin, Jeffery, Michael Floyd, C. Patterson
Team B and C are the two team currently with a shot to win this year... team B now rolling out Calvin and Graham. Team C wasn't starting Gio and just lost Rodgers this trade allows him to stop relying on Cameron and Gordon in the same starting lineup.
I'm torn on whether team A just did something awesome, went one trade too far, or should have never touched Calvin.
Man that is brutal..ouch.Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
why? AJ Green is the best player in the deal. Thompkins & Quick have minimal value at best. Do I lose some long term? Sure...but I'm undefeated and geared up for this year. Roddy should also help now that hes healthyThe Des Bryant owner would only take both and would not accept counters. Demaryus owner is my top rival. Tried to trade him Graham straight up and he declinedMan that is brutal..ouch.Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
I like Julio over Green, and Cobb is way way ahead of anyone else in the deal after that.why? AJ Green is the best player in the deal. Thompkins & Quick have minimal value at best. Do I lose some long term? Sure...but I'm undefeated and geared up for this year. Roddy should also help now that hes healthyThe Des Bryant owner would only take both and would not accept counters. Demaryus owner is my top rival. Tried to trade him Graham straight up and he declinedMan that is brutal..ouch.Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
Most of us think Julio = Green, or close to it.why? AJ Green is the best player in the deal. Thompkins & Quick have minimal value at best. Do I lose some long term? Sure...but I'm undefeated and geared up for this year. Roddy should also help now that hes healthyThe Des Bryant owner would only take both and would not accept counters. Demaryus owner is my top rival. Tried to trade him Graham straight up and he declinedMan that is brutal..ouch.Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
I agree, it's giving away Cobb for a shot at the title this year.In a way, it's basically giving Cobb away for free long-term if you consider Julio/Green a wash.
Which, depending on your point of view, is a worthwhile trade. Not much different than my giving Peyton manning for Cobb (from the other guy's perspective)I agree, it's giving away Cobb for a shot at the title this year.In a way, it's basically giving Cobb away for free long-term if you consider Julio/Green a wash.
Julio isn't equal to Green. Julio isn't playing and he has a good shot to win it this year. Roddy will bounce back. I think he gave a little too much but overall, I like this trade because of his situation. Is the goal to win a championship or forever try for next season?Most of us think Julio = Green, or close to it.why? AJ Green is the best player in the deal. Thompkins & Quick have minimal value at best. Do I lose some long term? Sure...but I'm undefeated and geared up for this year. Roddy should also help now that hes healthyThe Des Bryant owner would only take both and would not accept counters. Demaryus owner is my top rival. Tried to trade him Graham straight up and he declinedMan that is brutal..ouch.Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
That leaves the trade Cobb/Quick/Thompkins for Roddy and some near worthless picks.
Get enough 1st rounders and they quickly go from "a gamble" to "a sure thing".Would never sell Julio that low. Those picks are hopefuls, not studs.
exactly, and wasn't for free. Quick/Thompkins for.the picks were a wash. While I don't love Roddy White, would anyone be surprised if he produced like a wr2 for next year and a half or even longer? I don't think I was going deep without an upgrade at wr. Antonio Brown is a much better wr2 then wr1 and having Shorts and K. Wright as rotational players is much better than depending on them as my wr2&3 along with Hartline, Cooper, Miles Austin, etc... I have bot Julius and Graham at TE along with Cook & Clay so if I need to eventually add depth at wr I have ammo. Foster/Tate/Johnson at RB along with Reggie Bush, Forte, and Leveon Bell. Weakness now is Kaep and Foles/Vick at QB.Also, right after the deal I scooped Sid Rice off waivers and put him in my IR spot that was freed up so that helps as well. Got.lucky nobody noticed he was dropped after he got.unlockedWhich, depending on your point of view, is a worthwhile trade. Not much different than my giving Peyton manning for Cobb (from the other guy's perspective)I agree, it's giving away Cobb for a shot at the title this year.In a way, it's basically giving Cobb away for free long-term if you consider Julio/Green a wash.
Except AJ Greens foot worksMost of us think Julio = Green, or close to it.why? AJ Green is the best player in the deal. Thompkins & Quick have minimal value at best. Do I lose some long term? Sure...but I'm undefeated and geared up for this year. Roddy should also help now that hes healthyThe Des Bryant owner would only take both and would not accept counters. Demaryus owner is my top rival. Tried to trade him Graham straight up and he declinedMan that is brutal..ouch.Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
That leaves the trade Cobb/Quick/Thompkins for Roddy and some near worthless picks.
In a dynasty league Julio is equal to Green. Lets put it this way if you had Green would you give up him and Cobb to get Calvin. The answer is no.flc735 said:Julio isn't equal to Green. Julio isn't playing and he has a good shot to win it this year. Roddy will bounce back. I think he gave a little too much but overall, I like this trade because of his situation. Is the goal to win a championship or forever try for next season?cstu said:Most of us think Julio = Green, or close to it.loose circuits said:why? AJ Green is the best player in the deal. Thompkins & Quick have minimal value at best. Do I lose some long term? Sure...but I'm undefeated and geared up for this year. Roddy should also help now that hes healthyThe Des Bryant owner would only take both and would not accept counters. Demaryus owner is my top rival. Tried to trade him Graham straight up and he declinedDD88 said:Man that is brutal..msudaisy26 said:ouch.loose circuits said:Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
That leaves the trade Cobb/Quick/Thompkins for Roddy and some near worthless picks.
is green and Cobb on IR in this scenario? Do I have a team that has a decent shot at title?In a dynasty league Julio is equal to Green. Lets put it this way if you had Green would you give up him and Cobb to get Calvin. The answer is no.flc735 said:Julio isn't equal to Green. Julio isn't playing and he has a good shot to win it this year. Roddy will bounce back. I think he gave a little too much but overall, I like this trade because of his situation. Is the goal to win a championship or forever try for next season?cstu said:Most of us think Julio = Green, or close to it.loose circuits said:why? AJ Green is the best player in the deal. Thompkins & Quick have minimal value at best. Do I lose some long term? Sure...but I'm undefeated and geared up for this year. Roddy should also help now that hes healthyThe Des Bryant owner would only take both and would not accept counters. Demaryus owner is my top rival. Tried to trade him Graham straight up and he declinedDD88 said:Man that is brutal..msudaisy26 said:ouch.loose circuits said:Traded Julio, Cobb, quick, thompkins for Roddy and AJ Green along with a 2014 4th and 2015 4th & 5th
12x30 Ppr league
Maybe I could have waited for Cobb, but didn't want to trust Antonio Brown, Shorts, and K. Wright as my top 3 in division play when I'm 9-0 (2nd place team is 7-2 and stacked)
That leaves the trade Cobb/Quick/Thompkins for Roddy and some near worthless picks.
What were these offers?drew1976 said:Anyone deal ADP (give or get) lately? What are you getting back? I've floated what I thought were very reasonable offers and I get crickets.
ADP, Brady and Fitz for Spiller, Russell Wilson and a 2014 1st.What were these offers?drew1976 said:Anyone deal ADP (give or get) lately? What are you getting back? I've floated what I thought were very reasonable offers and I get crickets.
That seriously was not accepted?? Sort of looks like giving Brady and Fitz for free in that deal, amazed you heard nothing back.ADP, Brady and Fitz for Spiller, Russell Wilson and a 2014 1st.What were these offers?drew1976 said:Anyone deal ADP (give or get) lately? What are you getting back? I've floated what I thought were very reasonable offers and I get crickets.
ADP and Fitz for Julio (I'm out of it this year).
Depends on the makeup of the other team, those are all old guys. The hardest assets to trade in many dynasty leagues.That seriously was not accepted?? Sort of looks like giving Brady and Fitz for free in that deal, amazed you heard nothing back.ADP, Brady and Fitz for Spiller, Russell Wilson and a 2014 1st.ADP and Fitz for Julio (I'm out of it this year).What were these offers?drew1976 said:Anyone deal ADP (give or get) lately? What are you getting back? I've floated what I thought were very reasonable offers and I get crickets.
If my team was 0-9, I would still accept that.That seriously was not accepted?? Sort of looks like giving Brady and Fitz for free in that deal, amazed you heard nothing back.
Depends on the makeup of the other team, those are all old guys. The hardest assets to trade in many dynasty leagues.
Ok. But some would not. It's not unreasonable that it wasn't accepted.If my team was 0-9, I would still accept that.That seriously was not accepted?? Sort of looks like giving Brady and Fitz for free in that deal, amazed you heard nothing back.
Depends on the makeup of the other team, those are all old guys. The hardest assets to trade in many dynasty leagues.
But it's certainly unreasonable that he didn't even get responses.If my team was 0-9, I would still accept that.
Ok. But some would not. It's not unreasonable that it wasn't accepted.
We don't know circumstances. But all things equal, responses are generally warranted.But it's certainly unreasonable that he didn't even get responses.If my team was 0-9, I would still accept that.
Ok. But some would not. It's not unreasonable that it wasn't accepted.