NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I usually don't nit pick for plot holes but once Loralei took over Fitz, why didn't she have him destroy the collar device?
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Mad Cow
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And why did Coulson have to lay a trap for Fitz? He was superior physically and by training in every way. Why not just lay him out right then and there?
I think she was trying to get rid of Sif without anyone knowing she was on the plane yet. If he hands her a broken collar then she knows she is on the plane and with a broken collar, she will have to kill her to stop her. Just one man's opinion.
ETA: It was clear from the fight that Sif is clearly better at fighting so a one on one is not what Lorelei wants.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
But that is the key point. Again this is nit picking so no big deal anyway but Lorelei was clear in stating that she would rather have died than had the collar on her. She even asked Sif to kill her.
Understood, but how about a plan that hopefully gets rid of both? She needed Sif off of the plane and off goes the collar. Sif had to do an amazing grab to keep it on board as well. I mean, at the end of the day, we know the outcome, so we are discussing something that wouldn't happen (collar broken/Sif gone). That said, I think the plan does make sense to get rid of both as Lorelei would have wanted. Without the collar, Sif doesn't go in the room before they find out Lorelei is on board.
The Big Guy
Fear the Blitz
The Assembling ad/episode tonight is pretty good, especially for the more casual comic reader or someone who hasn't touched one in a good 20years.
Rayderr
Footballguy
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Most of us seem to. It's not perfect, but generally speaking I think the show is much improved over the course of the first season.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Started out at a 5ish out of 10. Then maybe down to 4 territory. Then it spiked up to strong 6. And of late, its a solid 7 pushing 8 territory. I actually think last night's episode was a 9.
Given your Marvel habit, jump in IMO
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Angry Bovine
Definitely worth it. It is getting better. Some tie ins to Winter Solider last night and used some characters introduced in the Marvel One Shot shorts.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
You just need to set your expectations. This is not Babylon 5, The Wire, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad quality.
But as long as you are not expecting a top tier show, it is pretty fun to watch if you are a Marvel movie universe fan. They do a decent job.
Some of the actors are still trying to find their voice with in a couple of the characters, but overall it is an entertaining show. Not the best, not the worst.
If I had to rate the show from a 1-10 (where say Cop Rock was a 1, and The Wire was a 10), this would fall at about a 6 to a 6.5. The good news is that it appears to be improving slowly. The Uprising arc has been solid.
I am unsure if this has been approved yet for season 2.
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Angry Bovine
You put B5 in the same category as the others? I can see preferring B5 to Agents but the others listed are in a different class.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
it is all personal opinion, but yes, B5 is in my top 5 all time (along with The Wire, Sporanos, Breaking Bad and Buffy).
I should also mention that is unfair of me to try and compare series that were complete with one that is just beginning. If one just watched the first 3/4 of season one of B5, it would look like crap with out the rest of the seasons to help it. Similar to Star Trek TNG in that way.
Some shows just take a little longer to get going. Although in these days with cancellations coming much quicker, shows have to find their footings much quicker.
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Angry Bovine
Yeah I like B5 and Buffy as well, the other 3 jump out as holy grail type series.
I'm hopeful the show will continue to improve, and think it is hitting its stride with the current arc.
I'm hopeful the show will continue to improve, and think it is hitting its stride with the current arc.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
well this is probably going to be unneeded for anyone who actually watches this show but just in case:
Go see Captain America 2 this weekend. The consequences for Marvel Agents of Shield are massive and really bring into focus where the Uprising story line is driving towards.
Go see Captain America 2 this weekend. The consequences for Marvel Agents of Shield are massive and really bring into focus where the Uprising story line is driving towards.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
By boring, I assume you mean "the most awesome thing any of us are likely to ever see on TV."
strykerpks
Footballguy
I"m no comic nerd but my wife and I have been enjoying the show. Haven't seen the latest Thor yet and probably will wait on Captain America until it comes out on BR.
If we're going to have to go get a babysitter, drop $30 on a movie just to keep up with the show we'll probably tap out.
Is it really necessary?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Well with out giving away spoilers, yeah, it is integral
I am sure they will do some sort of recap though for those that have not seen Captain America though. They pretty much have to since the very core of the show (Shield) underwent some major changes that have to affect the show.
strykerpks
Footballguy
LinkWell with out giving away spoilers, yeah, it is integral
I am sure they will do some sort of recap though for those that have not seen Captain America though. They pretty much have to since the very core of the show (Shield) underwent some major changes that have to affect the show.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
More like brilliant, but what ever floats your boatLinkWell with out giving away spoilers, yeah, it is integral
I am sure they will do some sort of recap though for those that have not seen Captain America though. They pretty much have to since the very core of the show (Shield) underwent some major changes that have to affect the show.
Imo, this can only mean good things for the show
with Shield done and dusted, Coulsons team might have to take on a rogue feel but with out the Shield backing for finances, I don't know how they will work that out
flysack
Footballguy
The new Cap movie was pretty good, for a popcorn comic book movie flick. I took my son yesterday on opening day and enjoyed it. There wasn't enough Johnanson butt closeups, but I was still pleased. It was much better than Cap 1, though it didn't touch Dark Knight levels of awesome. Go see it. The wife will get hot watching Chris Evans and you can reap the rewards in the back seat of your car before going back home.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The general consensus is that the show overall is not great but not terrible and most importantly it is improving. The latest arc, called Uprising, appears to tie directly into the Captain America 2 plot and has been very good.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
I don't think you'll have to see the movie to enjoy the show. This is a lot like the comic book crossover stuff when I was a kid. Hard core fans will want to not just see the movie, but see it after last week's episode but before this week's episode. Others may not see the movie at all but should still be able to follow along in the story on the show - just be prepared for major changes that are referenced has happening elsewhere, off screen, but which significantly impact the direction the team takes.
To give you an idea, there are only like 2 facts about the movie that, if shared, I'd have to put in spoiler tags to prevent you from knowing before the show reveal. Maybe 3, if you watch the commercial for the upcoming show.
To give you an idea, there are only like 2 facts about the movie that, if shared, I'd have to put in spoiler tags to prevent you from knowing before the show reveal. Maybe 3, if you watch the commercial for the upcoming show.
babydemon90
Footballguy
So...with the plane diverted and that female agent(name?) wanting to kill everyone - is someone on the plane bad? Maybe it's a remote control thing, I'd be disappointed if at least one of the crew isn't working for the dark side though.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I don't think any of the main cast are going to be working for that other group. I'd bet Paxton and his buddy are though, which will be the "betrayal"
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I read an article yesterday which answered one of my questions about the financial viability of Coulsons team which obviously had an enormous budget.
Everything will change now, as the money flow is going to stop and they will simply make due with what ever is on the plane.
There are so many directions the show could go in now I am excited to see what happens.
Everything will change now, as the money flow is going to stop and they will simply make due with what ever is on the plane.
There are so many directions the show could go in now I am excited to see what happens.
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Maybe, but I doubt it.
It certainly would make sense if whoever The Clairvoyant is was using Zola's algorithm in addition to just having access to the classified SHEILD data. Would be a good bridge between the two storylines.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
That hadn't crossed my mind at all. I don't think that will end being the case but...
It certainly would make sense if whoever The Clairvoyant is was using Zola's algorithm in addition to just having access to the classified SHEILD data. Would be a good bridge between the two storylines.
It certainly would make sense if whoever The Clairvoyant is was using Zola's algorithm in addition to just having access to the classified SHEILD data. Would be a good bridge between the two storylines.
Has access to Shield's classified data? Check. Has an algorithm that essentially predicts the future? Check. What argues against Zola being the Clairvoyant?
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Why not?
Has access to Shield's classified data? Check. Has an algorithm that essentially predicts the future? Check. What argues against Zola being the Clairvoyant?
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Now that's an interesting question.
Guess we'll see...I'd assume they'd want to keep spoilers to a minimum.
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Why not?Arsenal of Doom said:
Has access to Shield's classified data? Check. Has an algorithm that essentially predicts the future? Check. What argues against Zola being the Clairvoyant?
They could still resolve it within the series. Would be easy to have what we saw in the film be nothing more than the reveal...
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Excellent turn.
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Angry Bovine
They made a passing reference to the events of the Winter Solider at the end when Coulson and Hand were talking.
I thought it was a great episode as they had multiple swerves. I knew the very end had one more coming, but I was wrong on who it was.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
When it became clear that May wasn't in on it I was disappointed, because I think the concept of a series long bad guy who was a main good guy for the whole first season is pretty cool. Glad to see they didn't abandon that, though I hope (although I'm guessing they will) they don't wimp out and redeem Ward at the end of all this.
Definitely seemed pretty spoilery for the Winter Soldier (haven't see it yet), but cool that they're weaving them together like that. If I ever went to the theater for movies anymore I'm sure it would be a cool experience.
Definitely seemed pretty spoilery for the Winter Soldier (haven't see it yet), but cool that they're weaving them together like that. If I ever went to the theater for movies anymore I'm sure it would be a cool experience.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Just when you think Marvel can't possibly keep firing on all cylinders. Great episode, the best yet, and a great week for Marvel. Just like when we were kids and they were crossing over all the time. Marvel needs to get Spider Man and X-men in the mix at some point.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Yeah, pretty sure I'm gonna have to bit the bullet and go see it. I HATE going to the movies.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
WTF is going on?!?! Great episode.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
What I really love is that Marvel has been here, done this. This is just like the crossovers in the comics. Are there spoilers? Sure - not everyone follows every story. And so what? You asked your buddy what Spider Man was talking about in this issue and he explains that Spidey popped up in the Avengers comic to help them out. Both stories moved forward and you don't really feel like you missed anything, because you don't read the Avengers. No big deal, but maybe you go out of your way to check out an issue of the Avengers or two because you're a Spider Man fan.
They aren't afraid to try it like almost any other TV/movie franchise would be, because with Marvel it's a proven formula.
They aren't afraid to try it like almost any other TV/movie franchise would be, because with Marvel it's a proven formula.
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Angry Bovine
It was a great movie though. Not just a great movie for a comic book, it was just awesome.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
For some reason my DVD didn't record it. Anyone know where I can watch it?
