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[Buckna]

Also spoiler for Captain Marvel that is not exactly a secret

Spoiler

Be nice if there is a lot more to Coulson being in Captain Marvel other than just a fun cameo. Be nice if they can tie that in to somehow saving him in Season 6 or even bringing him back for future movies, but not getting my hopes up.

 

[packersfan]

Basically, the rest of the team skipped the intervening time by jumping ahead, then came back to near the time they left.

But Fitz didnt skip ahead, he lived through it.  Yet at that point in his life, he came back.  He has now gone back into his own past, and exists in two places just like you would if you went back in time now.

When the back-travelling Fitz dies, it doesnt affect the original version.

Hmmm.

 

[skol asylum]

If Fitz never went to the future then he never travelled back to the past yada yada yada. This time travel stuff makes no sense.

 

[packersfan]

If Fitz never went to the future then he never travelled back to the past yada yada yada. This time travel stuff makes no sense.

They'll need to explain the hell out of it should this be the route they pursue next season. I agree with your first sentence. That's what I can't get past in terms of he's alive and sleeping somewhere  

 

[(HULK)]

I should have taken a picture of my white board.

1) at time 0, team with out Fitz is teleported to time 1000 

2) At time 10, Fitz goes to sleep in space

3) At time 100, world blows up

4) At time 1001, Fitz wakes up from long sleep and joins team in future

5) At time 1010, whole team jumps back to time 50.  Fitz is still asleep in space in this time line

6) Team leaves Fitz asleep because they may still need him in the future

7) The timeline passes time 100, world does not blow up and team now knows they can safely go get the sleeping Fitz

The sleeping Fitz should have no memory of anything that happened after he fell asleep.

Wouldn't retrieving him and waking him up create a paradox though?

 

[Psychopav]

The sleeping Fitz should have no memory of anything that happened after he fell asleep.

Including getting married, amiright?

Also, we don't know what happens to the grandson (forgot his name), do we?

 

[packersfan]

With Season 6 beginning sometime next summer they can also ignore what Thanos has done and play off whatever happens in Avengers 4 which comes out in May. 

 

[Psychopav]

Thought it was great, and would have been a fitting series finale as someone said. No idea how they start off next season with how they left it with Coulson, he's the heart and soul of this show and the main reason I started watching in the first place. After all that talk about Deek blinking out of existence if they broke the loop, they did not reveal what happened to him either.

Thinking on it now, would have been nice had they left the Fitz thing off like GregR mentioned, would have been a great way to kick off the beginning of next season with them searching for frozen him. You could have a whole season with the search for Fitz if you wanted. Also I wonder how they will reconcile the fact that Fitz would have no memory of the 2nd half of the season including... he and Jemma getting married!

Er, yeah what this guy said

 

[packersfan]

I can't see any way the show continues without Coulson. He's not gonna die. 

 

[GregR]

Imagine that last Monday that you spent a week at Disneyland and then returned home on Saturday.

Today we stick you in a time machine and send you back a couple of days to last Wednesday, at your home. Now there are two copies of you existing on Wednesday.  One is in Orlando on day 3 of his Disneyworld trip and still planning to return Saturday.  The time-traveling version of you already lived through the trip and has memories of it.  But he's at home now because that's where the time travel machine dropped you off.

Now imagine that the time-traveling you is shot and killed the next day on Thursday.  There's still the original timeline's version of you in Orlando who is set to return home in two days.  He doesn't even know there's a time-traveling future version of himself sitting at home, eating his mini-pizza bagels.

Time-traveling you who dies is analagous to Fitz who dies. Lived through everything then went back in time to a point he already existed at.   Orlando-you who lives through this week in normal fashion is Fitzsicle who lived out all of the intervening years, albeit in suspended animation.  

Now imagine Daisy and Gemma travel to Orlando on Friday and bring you back for a hot threesome.

Wait... what we were talking about again?

 

[Psychopav]

Also spoiler for Captain Marvel that is not exactly a secret

Spoiler

Be nice if there is a lot more to Coulson being in Captain Marvel other than just a fun cameo. Be nice if they can tie that in to somehow saving him in Season 6 or even bringing him back for future movies, but not getting my hopes up.

Spoiler

Dude, if they bring Coulson back into the movie version of the MCU, I will totally have a nerdgasm.  Especially if they reunite him with any of the Avengers or (gasp) Nick Fury! I agree with

@Buckna, I started and continued this show because of Coulson.  He's also a completely new character created by and for the MCU.  They need to keep him going.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Wouldn't retrieving him and waking him up create a paradox though?

according to BBTF history, the paradox "could" occur when Fitz A meets Fitz B.

But with Fitz A being dead, he can no longer run into himself to create the paradox (at least in the BTTF world).

Terminator seemed to get around this by never sending John himself back in time.

 

[Psychopav]

They'll need to explain the hell out of it should this be the route they pursue next season. I agree with your first sentence. That's what I can't get past in terms of he's alive and sleeping somewhere  

It's going to be parallel dimensions imo, which will be revealed in the next Avengers.  Which is all fine as long as they get back on track and pick a "real" reality to follow.  Parallel dimensions tend to devalue the entire narrative if they go on too long as a story mechanic.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Also, we don't know what happens to the grandson (forgot his name), do we?

The last scene with Deek is hm telling Daisy he is leaving.  I don't think we see him after that.

Normally I would dig into something like this assuming the writers planted a seed but my enthusiasm dropped when I saw the complete ignoring the Thanos timeline.  If they are going to be lazy as writers, I am going to be lazy as a fan

 

[packersfan]

The last scene with Deek is hm telling Daisy he is leaving.  I don't think we see him after that.

Normally I would dig into something like this assuming the writers planted a seed but my enthusiasm dropped when I saw the complete ignoring the Thanos timeline.  If they are going to be lazy as writers, I am going to be lazy as a fan

I was happy they ignored it. I think they did a good job telling this story and wrapping up. Bringing in the snap would've been too much - especially if this really was the series finale as they appear to have thought at the time.

 

[packersfan]

It's going to be parallel dimensions imo, which will be revealed in the next Avengers.  Which is all fine as long as they get back on track and pick a "real" reality to follow.  Parallel dimensions tend to devalue the entire narrative if they go on too long as a story mechanic.

I don't know what's going to happen in Avengers 4 although time travel/alternate realities would seem like a probability. I'm fine with SHIELD tapping into that or playing off it as a starting point. Agree they shouldn't follow through with it for an entire season.

 

[GregR]

Wouldn't retrieving him and waking him up create a paradox though?

It would be a paradox if you assume there is only one timeline that exists.

If instead you can live with there being multiple versions of how things play out, and there being magic/tech where people can move between them, then it isn't a Paradox.

In Timeline A, Fitz goes to sleep, wakes in the future and reunites with SHIELD, travels to past, events repeat in a loop.

Until such time as they break the loop.  At which point it becomes Timeline B and travels off in some other direction.  If you think Timeline B is the only timeline, then it's a Paradox because Fitz has to go to sleep and wake in the future else time can't have gone the way it does.   

But if you accept Timeline A can exist independently of Timeline B, then it was a Fitz from Timeline A that took part in events that caused Timeline B to go off in its own direction after.  Timeline B doesn't need its own Fitz to be that guy.  The Kree monolith brought in the Fitz from Timeline A to play that role, he died in Timeline B and now Fitz in Timeline B can go have a different future without needing to spend it as a Fitzsicle.

 

[Buckna]

It's going to be parallel dimensions imo, which will be revealed in the next Avengers.  Which is all fine as long as they get back on track and pick a "real" reality to follow.  Parallel dimensions tend to devalue the entire narrative if they go on too long as a story mechanic.

Certainly possible, Shield introduced this during the past season and it featured heavily in the 100th episode with the Fear dimension. Not to mention wherever the hell Ghost Rider went last season.

 

[Psychopav]

The last scene with Deek is hm telling Daisy he is leaving.  I don't think we see him after that.

Normally I would dig into something like this assuming the writers planted a seed but my enthusiasm dropped when I saw the complete ignoring the Thanos timeline.  If they are going to be lazy as writers, I am going to be lazy as a fan

I think they wrote him in to make him a love interest for Daisy but then found out that they had zero chemistry and that the lines they gave him made him a doofus on the order of Bruce Banner a la Avengers IW (spoiler alert).

They have not yet figured out that Daisy doesn't have chemistry with seemingly anyone.  Not sure why that is considering her looks but it is what it is.  They should frankly stop trying.

 

[GregR]

They have not yet figured out that Daisy doesn't have chemistry with seemingly anyone.  Not sure why that is considering her looks but it is what it is.  They should frankly stop trying.

 

[Psychopav]

It would be a paradox if you assume there is only one timeline that exists.

If instead you can live with there being multiple versions of how things play out, and there being magic/tech where people can move between them, then it isn't a Paradox.

In Timeline A, Fitz goes to sleep, wakes in the future and reunites with SHIELD, travels to past, events repeat in a loop.

Until such time as they break the loop.  At which point it becomes Timeline B and travels off in some other direction.  If you think Timeline B is the only timeline, then it's a Paradox because Fitz has to go to sleep and wake in the future else time can't have gone the way it does.   

But if you accept Timeline A can exist independently of Timeline B, then it was a Fitz from Timeline A that took part in events that caused Timeline B to go off in its own direction after.  Timeline B doesn't need its own Fitz to be that guy.  The Kree monolith brought in the Fitz from Timeline A to play that role, he died in Timeline B and now Fitz in Timeline B can go have a different future without needing to spend it as a Fitzsicle.

Which is all well and good as long as you can continue to root for "your" heros and not have to worry too much about sorting out which timeline is the genuine one from the audience perspective.  I am thinking of that show Fringe which started out slow, became awesome, then essentially unraveled into meaninglessness when they let the parallel universe angle actually become the story.

 

[GregR]

Which is all well and good as long as you can continue to root for "your" heros and not have to worry too much about sorting out which timeline is the genuine one from the audience perspective.  I am thinking of that show Fringe which started out slow, became awesome, then essentially unraveled into meaninglessness when they let the parallel universe angle actually become the story.

I felt the same way about the 12 Monkeys TV show. 

Time travel stuff makes for some awesome stories... but it really has to be done in moderation.   You can't keep one-upping yourself with new, exciting revelations and tie-ins or it will eventually collapse under its own weight.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I felt the same way about the 12 Monkeys TV show. 

Time travel stuff makes for some awesome stories... but it really has to be done in moderation.   You can't keep one-upping yourself with new, exciting revelations and tie-ins or it will eventually collapse under its own weight.

this is what killed Lost for me.

 

[packersfan]

this is what killed Lost for me.

It got convoluted at times for sure but the first flash forward reveal was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen on TV.

 

[Buckna]

Yeah, I loathe time travel in sci-fi now, it's really overdone. Shield at least kept the paradoxes, etc. somewhat limited but hopefully they leave most of it behind for next season.

All the later Star Trek series like Voyager really beat a dead horse, Lost did it really poorly as well. I can't get into any of the DC universe TV shows because it seems like they do the same tired concepts over and over again as well. Or that show Timeless despite Abigail Spencer being in it.

 

[GregR]

Abigail Spencer

 

[Buckna]

It got convoluted at times for sure but the first flash forward reveal was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen on TV.

I assume he means season 5 with the time jumping island. Agreed about the flash forward, that was an awesome twist that no one saw coming.

 

[packersfan]

I assume he means season 5 with the time jumping island. Agreed about the flash forward, that was an awesome twist that no one saw coming.

Yeah that was way too much.

 

[-OZ-]

They'll need to explain the hell out of it should this be the route they pursue next season. I agree with your first sentence. That's what I can't get past in terms of he's alive and sleeping somewhere  

Or just ignore it and let the fans go crazy with theories.

I think they wrote him in to make him a love interest for Daisy but then found out that they had zero chemistry and that the lines they gave him made him a doofus on the order of Bruce Banner a la Avengers IW (spoiler alert).

They have not yet figured out that Daisy doesn't have chemistry with seemingly anyone.  Not sure why that is considering her looks but it is what it is.  They should frankly stop trying.

Can we get some volunteers here? 

Yeah, I loathe time travel in sci-fi now, it's really overdone. Shield at least kept the paradoxes, etc. somewhat limited but hopefully they leave most of it behind for next season.

All the later Star Trek series like Voyager really beat a dead horse, Lost did it really poorly as well. I can't get into any of the DC universe TV shows because it seems like they do the same tired concepts over and over again as well. Or that show Timeless despite Abigail Spencer being in it.

I actually like the Flash but the time travel stuff is a bit nuts. You can either try to figure it out or just sit back and enjoy the story.

 

[bcdjr1]

He came back with them. I'm not trying to be obtuse. Honest. But this is the sticking point for me. The Fitz who traveled to the future also returned to the present and died there. How is there a second Fitz? 

If you traveled back in time to yesterday, there would now be two of you living in yesterday.

Fitz didn't time travel to the future with the rest of the team. He was cryogenically frozen and kept in a spaceship until the future when he was awoken. 

He then traveled back in time with the rest of the team to the present where there's now 2 of him - the other is still asleep in the spaceship waiting to wake up in the future. 

Getting him would cause a paradox, but the Earth not getting cracked already did that. 

 

[packersfan]

If you traveled back in time to yesterday, there would now be two of you living in yesterday.

Fitz didn't time travel to the future with the rest of the team. He was cryogenically frozen and kept in a spaceship until the future when he was awoken. 

He then traveled back in time with the rest of the team to the present where there's now 2 of him - the other is still asleep in the spaceship waiting to wake up in the future. 

Getting him would cause a paradox, but the Earth not getting cracked already did that. 

But he did wake up in the future. If there is another version of him somewhere that doesn't appear to be the one. That Fitz woke up in the future, came back to the present and died. If there is another Fitz somewhere it doesn't seem to me that he's asleep on a spaceship. That one is dead.

 

[bcdjr1]

But he did wake up in the future. If there is another version of him somewhere that doesn't appear to be the one. That Fitz woke up in the future, came back to the present and died. If there is another Fitz somewhere it doesn't seem to me that he's asleep on a spaceship. That one is dead.

He did wake up in the future.  But between the present and the future, he's asleep in a spaceship.  You're going to die someday.  You're not dead now just because sometime in the future you will be.  In Fitz's future, he'll travel back to the present and die.  But in his present, he's asleep in a ship.

Think of it like this.  Say Fitz has a watch and Simmons has a watch.  They both start at midnight on Jan 1.  After an hour, Simmons is transported five hours into the future.  In the future, her watch still says 1am.  Fitz goes to sleep and sets his alarm to wake him up in 5 hours.  He wakes up and Simmons has just arrived.  Her watch says 1am, his says 6am (1 + 5).  They have some adventures for 2 hours.  Then they travel back in time to 2am.  Fitz's watch now says it's 8am (1 + 5 + 2).  Simmons' watch says it's 3am (1 + 2).  Fitz dies.  This does not erase all the time Fitz was asleep for 5 hours.  So Simmons goes to find him in bed, say it takes her an hour.  Fitz's watch now says it's 3am, which is the actual time.  Simmons' watch says it's 4am (1 + 2 + 1).  Fitz is at an earlier part of his life (3am) than when he wakes up in the future (6am).

The paradox I mentioned is that this means that Fitz cannot be there to wake up in the future at 6am.  In the show, it's similar because it would mean that Fitz couldn't be there to wake up in the future to meet the rest of the team.  However, there's a bigger paradox in that the Earth was supposed to be destroyed while Fitz slept, and it hasn't been.  Back to the Future explained this as a splitting of the timelines.  There's now one future where the Earth is destroyed and Fitz wakes up to join the rest of the team.  And there's a second one where the Earth isn't destroyed and Fitz can be found and woken before getting to the future.  The Fitz who died is from the timeline where the Earth was destroyed, and the other Fitz, the one still asleep, is in the timeline where the Earth was not destroyed.

 

[GregR]

But he did wake up in the future. If there is another version of him somewhere that doesn't appear to be the one. That Fitz woke up in the future, came back to the present and died. If there is another Fitz somewhere it doesn't seem to me that he's asleep on a spaceship. That one is dead.

You play a video game.  You hit level 20.  You export the character, then load a saved game back from when you were level 10 and facing a tough quest you could never beat.  Your buddy grabs the other controller and imports your level 20 character into co-op to help your level 10 character beat the quest. 

So... you beat the quest but the level 20 character perma-dies.

Now, your level 10 character, with his hard-fought quest reward, can continue playing the game.  But is that pointless?  Is he stuck in a loop where when he hits level 20, he must stop play and be exported-imported back into another restore of a level 10 save?

Of course not.   When you imported the level 20 into the older save, the game being run wasn't his ACTUAL history. The loaded game was identical up to that point, but it was a completely different game.

That's an analogy to multiple timelines.  You can have two video games with identical histories but that diverge at some point and go in different directions. You can move a character from one to any point in the other (assuming you have a save point there)... but what happens next in that game has no bearing on the history of the character you brought in.  The character in the new version of the game has a future that need have no similarity to the imported character's history.

Fitz goes through the monolith and emerges in a 2018, but it's not his history's 2018.  Though both this timeline's history and his own unfolded the same up until that moment.  There's a Fitz here, asleep in the ship already... but it's the Fitz from this timeline, not the FItz who came through the monolith from a different timeline. Fitzsicles's future does not have to play out the same as dead-Fitz's past did.  If you go with a multiple timelines view of things.

 

[NewlyRetired]

explaining time travel is purely 

you either buy into the multiple time line theory or you are left  because it makes no sense.

 

[bigbottom]

He did wake up in the future.  But between the present and the future, he's asleep in a spaceship.  You're going to die someday.  You're not dead now just because sometime in the future you will be.  In Fitz's future, he'll travel back to the present and die.  But in his present, he's asleep in a ship.

Think of it like this.  Say Fitz has a watch and Simmons has a watch.  They both start at midnight on Jan 1.  After an hour, Simmons is transported five hours into the future.  In the future, her watch still says 1am.  Fitz goes to sleep and sets his alarm to wake him up in 5 hours.  He wakes up and Simmons has just arrived.  Her watch says 1am, his says 6am (1 + 5).  They have some adventures for 2 hours.  Then they travel back in time to 2am.  Fitz's watch now says it's 8am (1 + 5 + 2).  Simmons' watch says it's 3am (1 + 2).  Fitz dies.  This does not erase all the time Fitz was asleep for 5 hours.  So Simmons goes to find him in bed, say it takes her an hour.  Fitz's watch now says it's 3am, which is the actual time.  Simmons' watch says it's 4am (1 + 2 + 1).  Fitz is at an earlier part of his life (3am) than when he wakes up in the future (6am).

The paradox I mentioned is that this means that Fitz cannot be there to wake up in the future at 6am.  In the show, it's similar because it would mean that Fitz couldn't be there to wake up in the future to meet the rest of the team.  However, there's a bigger paradox in that the Earth was supposed to be destroyed while Fitz slept, and it hasn't been.  Back to the Future explained this as a splitting of the timelines.  There's now one future where the Earth is destroyed and Fitz wakes up to join the rest of the team.  And there's a second one where the Earth isn't destroyed and Fitz can be found and woken before getting to the future.  The Fitz who died is from the timeline where the Earth was destroyed, and the other Fitz, the one still asleep, is in the timeline where the Earth was not destroyed.

Perfectly explained. 

 

[Sebowski]

The last scene with Deek is hm telling Daisy he is leaving.  I don't think we see him after that.

Normally I would dig into something like this assuming the writers planted a seed but my enthusiasm dropped when I saw the complete ignoring the Thanos timeline.  If they are going to be lazy as writers, I am going to be lazy as a fan

I think they addressed it by having Jemma walk in to Deek's room and all his stuff was gone. Showing he blinked out of existence. 

 

[NewlyRetired]

I think they addressed it by having Jemma walk in to Deek's room and all his stuff was gone. Showing he blinked out of existence. 

ahh, that makes sense.  I did not understand that was the room that Deek was storing his stuff in since it was a different camera angle.

 

[packersfan]

Perfectly explained. 

I'm still confused but I'll just enjoy the story and not try to make too much sense of it all.

Oh and ...

#FitzLives

 

[B Maverick]

I can't find it now but read the showrunners decided not to include events from IW for a couple reasons. Paraphrasing from memory...

1) Movie release was moved up, events of AoS over the last several eps were all happening in "real time" and couldn't adjust. 
(Mentioning "Thanos is coming" means the season finale could have taken place prior to Thanos' snap.)

2) Weren't sure of renewal status so went with an ending that could be season or series and on its own terms.

3) If they were renewed they didn't want to have painted themselves into a corner having half the team gone due to IW and a better problem to have was how to continue based on whatever events happen prior to next summer.

May have been more but thats what I remember. 

as for the ep, loved having son of coul ending up in such a magical place. Was overall a good episode, good season finale and had that been it would have been a good way to go out.  

But still looking forward to next summer's season

 

[NewlyRetired]

.(Mentioning "Thanos is coming" means the season finale could have taken place prior to Thanos' snap.)

lack of exact timeline definitions does make this possible. 

I don't think we have any real defined time between when Squidrope was in NY(which was mentioned 3 episodes before the finale) and when Thanos made it to Wikanda.  

 

[NewlyRetired]

as for the ep, loved having son of coul ending up in such a magical place.

hopefully he is expanding on that bucket list with May

 

[northern exposure]

Imagine that last Monday that you spent a week at Disneyland and then returned home on Saturday.

Today we stick you in a time machine and send you back a couple of days to last Wednesday, at your home. Now there are two copies of you existing on Wednesday.  One is in Orlando on day 3 of his Disneyworld trip and still planning to return Saturday.  The time-traveling version of you already lived through the trip and has memories of it.  But he's at home now because that's where the time travel machine dropped you off.

Now imagine that the time-traveling you is shot and killed the next day on Thursday.  There's still the original timeline's version of you in Orlando who is set to return home in two days.  He doesn't even know there's a time-traveling future version of himself sitting at home, eating his mini-pizza bagels.

Time-traveling you who dies is analagous to Fitz who dies. Lived through everything then went back in time to a point he already existed at.   Orlando-you who lives through this week in normal fashion is Fitzsicle who lived out all of the intervening years, albeit in suspended animation.  

Now imagine Daisy and Gemma travel to Orlando on Friday and bring you back for a hot threesome.

Wait... what we were talking about again?

Re. the bolded above. Can Agent May and Bobbi tag along with Daisy and Gemma?

 

[Mjolnirs]

Here's what I think they were referencing.

Fitz didn't get sent to the future like the rest of them.  So in that sense there are two copies of him.  The Fitz that died was the one from the future, after having cryo-slept through everything in between.  Now that they are back in the present, the Fitz from that time exists, currently cryo-sleeping and expecting to wake up in the future.

So they can find and wake up that Fitz (who is with present day Enok I believe), and the last thing he will remember is going to sleep to try and meet up with everyone in the future.  He won't have any memory of anything that happened in the 2nd half of this season, after the future crew returned to the present.

See, I didn't  get that at the time. 

I think they addressed it by having Jemma walk in to Deek's room and all his stuff was gone. Showing he blinked out of existence. 

ahh, that makes sense.  I did not understand that was the room that Deek was storing his stuff in since it was a different camera angle.

Same here.  I thought that it might be his room, but wasn't sure.

Re. the bolded above. Can Agent May and Bobbi tag along with Daisy and Gemma?

This would break the internet.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I'm still confused but I'll just enjoy the story and not try to make too much sense of it all.

Oh and ...

#FitzLives

Just think of any time travel movie ever.  People travel back in time and can run into their past selves.  There are two of them there.  Future version, and past version.

That's all that happened here.  Fitz from 2040 or whatever it was traveled back in time to 2018.  So now there are two of them.  Time traveler Fitz from 2040, and 2018 Fitz who is catching some Z's.

Whether 2040 Fitz cryoslept for 20 years or aged for 20 years is irrelevant, but I think that is what is tripping you up.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So about Jemma walking into the empty room that was Deek's.  Didn't she find one item, I think it was a pocket knife?  How does that piece fit in?

 

[northern exposure]

So about Jemma walking into the empty room that was Deek's.  Didn't she find one item, I think it was a pocket knife?  How does that piece fit in?

I think it was a multi-tool that belonged to Fitz and, in a previous episode, Deek said his Grandfather had given it to him. Deek had an older looking one with the #17 on it (IIRC) and Gemma recognized it as one that Fitz had in the present. This was one of the things that helped Gemma realize Deek's connection to Fitz and Simmons.

 

[MindCrime]

Season 6 premieres on Friday 5/10. Potential spoilers and season trailer here S.H.I.E.L.D. Season preview

 

[NewlyRetired]

Season 6 premieres on Friday 5/10. Potential spoilers and season trailer here S.H.I.E.L.D. Season preview

I am a time line geek and I really enjoy this show so I am saddened to hear that the creators are just totally ignoring Thanos and the snap.  It sounds like we are suppose to pretend this story happens pre snap, even though they clearly set up Thanos in last season's finale.

 

[-OZ-]

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Did I miss the first episode?

Hopefully it will be on demand

 

[strykerpks]

I know I'm way behind and haven't seen Captain Marvel nor Endgame yet so please try avoid any of those spoilers in here if possible, please? Gimme a week or two I have those planned. Based on a few previous posts it doesn't look like the show will do that so TIA.

At any rate, introducing the new characters was kinda forced but for a Friday ABC show I'm not gonna complain too much. I enjoyed the episode for what it was.

Spoiler

Whoa, I didn't see "Coulson" being the bad guy for the season. That could be fun. Also digging Skye's hair/highlights so far. I would murder all of you just to sniff her farts