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*** Official Michael Turner 2007 offseason thread *** (1 Viewer)

bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
I've seen it posted on three different Charger message boards that 1090 is reporting that Turner was traded to the Titans for the 19th pick.

But none of them gave any more details than that.
The 19th pick for a guy who hasn't played a full season. This when Edgerrin James and Alexander couln't fetch a 2nd round pick two years ago. What am I missing? :no:
Could be contract status (Turner is not going to have a huge base salary with him...)
Contract status, age (in terms of not having wear and tear), ability.
Ability over Edge and Alexander of two years ago - tall order.
Not to mention, Marshall Faulk who was traded for a second and a fifth round pick. Hats off to AJ Smith, if he gets the 19th pick.
marshall Faulk was traded for a first rounder which the cotls truned around and took Edge with
Faulk TradeIn what has been called the greatest St. Louis sports trade since baseball's Ernie Broglio for Lou Brock, the Rams acquire Faulk from Indy on April 15, 1999, for a second- and a fifth-round draft pick.
Ernie's my cousin :lmao: . Great guy and blast to drink with. I still have a full set of original 6"x10" black and white pictures of one of his Cards teams and a copy of Sports Illustrated with him on the cover.Sorry to sidetrack.

I would love to see the Chargers get a first rounder for Turner, this year or next. Preferably this year since the draft is deep in WR, CB, and LB. All three things SD is looking to fill the most.

 
1. Sirius radio reported a while ago that a team had offered a first-rounder in 2008 for Turner.
It make sense that the Packers would be willing to give up their 1st next year. Some say a 1st next year is the equivalent to a 2nd round this year. Let Favre have one more kick at the can before starting with the Aaron Rodgers experiment. The NFC North is a week division so they will probably have a winning record (which means they will be giving up a higher pick next year.)
 
Ok, here in Nashville I'm hearing that the trade involves a SWAP of this year's first round picks. SD get TN's 19 and TN gets SD's, what, 30th pick along with some other compensation either in this or next year's draft.

Tennessean

The link specifically denies it is a first (other than a swap) in this or next year's draft.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
I've seen it posted on three different Charger message boards that 1090 is reporting that Turner was traded to the Titans for the 19th pick.

But none of them gave any more details than that.
The 19th pick for a guy who hasn't played a full season. This when Edgerrin James and Alexander couln't fetch a 2nd round pick two years ago. What am I missing? :goodposting:
Could be contract status (Turner is not going to have a huge base salary with him...)
Contract status, age (in terms of not having wear and tear), ability.
Ability over Edge and Alexander of two years ago - tall order.
Not to mention, Marshall Faulk who was traded for a second and a fifth round pick. Hats off to AJ Smith, if he gets the 19th pick.
marshall Faulk was traded for a first rounder which the cotls truned around and took Edge with
Faulk TradeIn what has been called the greatest St. Louis sports trade since baseball's Ernie Broglio for Lou Brock, the Rams acquire Faulk from Indy on April 15, 1999, for a second- and a fifth-round draft pick.
Ernie's my cousin :lmao: . Great guy and blast to drink with. I still have a full set of original 6"x10" black and white pictures of one of his Cards teams and a copy of Sports Illustrated with him on the cover.Sorry to sidetrack.

I would love to see the Chargers get a first rounder for Turner, this year or next. Preferably this year since the draft is deep in WR, CB, and LB. All three things SD is looking to fill the most.
Cool! Sounds like the Titans are going to give it to them. I believe that will give them pick #19.

 
Ok, here in Nashville I'm hearing that the trade involves a SWAP of this year's first round picks. SD get TN's 19 and TN gets SD's, what, 30th pick along with some other compensation either in this or next year's draft.

Tennessean

The link specifically denies it is a first (other than a swap) in this or next year's draft.
Sounds like anything but a done deal to me.
 
Chargers mulling deal for Turner on eve of draft

By Kevin Acee

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

8:23 p.m. April 27, 2007

Michael Turner might not change this draft for the Chargers, but he could well set up an already-loaded franchise a year from now.

A source confirmed today that on the eve of the draft the Chargers are mulling an offer from an unidentified club for a first-round draft pick in 2008 in exchange for the backup running back.

Multiple teams are expected to call Smith with a trade offer during tomorrow's first round, but there still remains no guarantee Turner will be traded because Smith covets him as an insurance policy for this season.

The source would not say which team has stepped up with the best offer the Chargers have seen so far – the '08 first-rounder – but other sources said it is believed to be the Green Bay Packers.

Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith would not address the Turner situation today, but he has indicated in recent weeks he would take a first-rounder next year as part of a deal for Turner.

Sources also said the Chargers are trying to get more from the unidentified team.

Additionally, the Tennessee Titans are still negotiating with the Chargers but are loathe to part with a first-round pick. However, the Titans already have the parameters of a deal in place with Turner's agent, Bus Cook.

Turner visited Tennessee and Buffalo during the free agency period.

Buffalo, once the front-runner for Turner, according to sources, stopped negotiating with Cook last week when the two sides could not get close on money after numerous exchanges. Cook is asking for more than $17 million in guaranteed money in a five-year deal.

The mystery team, according to sources, is not going to work a deal with Cook up front. Instead, it will pay Turner the $2.35 million salary he is due this year and anticipate making him its franchise player in 2008, which would cost them approximately $7.5 million for that season. During that time, they will try to work a deal with Turner.

That is a scenario that goes against the conventional thinking that a team would always want to sign a player before parting with draft picks.

Even with the likelihood that numerous teams will make a play for Turner tomorrow, Smith has always said he is fine with keeping Turner for the 2007 season and then losing him as a free agent. Sources said Smith is still mulling that option, which likely would net the Chargers a compensatory third-round pick in the 2009 draft and give them the security of having Turner as they make an expected playoff run in '07.

Turner was a restricted free agent this offseason but went unsigned because any team signing him would have had to give the Chargers a first-round and third-round draft pick.

Smith never expected a team to part with a first and a third, but it was his starting point for the trade talks that have occurred with at least a half-dozen teams.

It is known that the Dallas Cowboys recently offered to swap spots with the Chargers in this year's first round and give them a third-round pick this year or next. Before the Chargers could decline the deal – which they would have – it was pulled by Dallas because of Cook's asking price.

Smith has maintained he is not interested in swapping first-round spots with a team.

As for which player the Chargers will take in today's first round, there are numerous possibilities since they do not make their first pick until 30th.

A receiver is needed, as is a safety. A linebacker would be a luxury.

All three are possibilities in the first round, depending on what happens in front of them.

Sources inside the organization indicated this week that a linebacker is a strong possibility with the 30th pick – likely Paul Poluszny or Jon Beason.

The Chargers have their starters for 2007 set at linebacker. But Stephen Cooper and Matt Wilhelm are new to the first team, and there is not much behind the starters either inside or outside.

Said Smith: “I love depth, and I love to look two or three years down the line – if you can stockpile.”

Still, there should be at least one receiver available at No. 30 who is ready to contribute immediately.

One factor that could affect whether the Chargers strike first on a receiver is that the depth of solid receivers in this draft is exceptional.

Should Robert Meachem of Tennessee or Dwayne Bowe of LSU be available, the Chargers consider both ready to contribute immediately.

If Meachem and Bowe are gone – they appear to be the most likely to be available by that point – the Chargers will likely wait until the second round to nab one of the other handful of solid receivers available.

It appears increasingly unlikely a safety worthy of the 30th pick will be available. So that could be another spot they wait on but will almost certainly fill with one of their four picks today.

What they will do in today's three rounds has all been sorted out over the past two weeks, much of it in the past 24 hours.

The team's many scouts and assistant coaches concluded their meetings with Smith and assistant GM Buddy Nix on Wednesday. Just Smith, Nix and head coach Norv Turner met for the past two days.

They considered every conceivable trade proposal, talked about every player that could be available to them with each pick (especially the first three rounds) and how that player will fit in to their scheme, every which way the draft might go in their opinion.

It was Smith who sat alone as yesterday afternoon turned to night.

He ruminated over the clusters of players – the group of four or five they might take at each spot they draft. By 9 p.m., he knew which player he would take at No. 30 if all falls as he figures this morning.

The Chargers are coming off a 14-2 season and don't need the draft to resurrect them as it did three years ago.

What might shape their actions today are the facts they have at least 18 returning starters in-house and a roster that is largely cemented.

“Our team is pretty set,” Smith said. “We like a lot of things. But my God, somebody is coming in here. You're drafting players to get better.”

 
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The Titans have plenty of picks to deal for either/both of these guys. As much as I doubt it would work out, a 5th or 6th rounder for Williams wouldn't be a huge price for Tennessee. It's easy to forget that once upon a time Mike Williams was a very highly thought of prospect.

 
Cook is asking for more than $17 million in guaranteed money in a five-year deal.
Interesting. Sounds like Cook is looking for more guaranteed money than Edge got last year ($11.5M).For reference, Chestor got $5.6M guaranteed last year and Lamont got $11M two years ago. To quote another poster:
That is a bit of an oversimplification though. Antonio Cromartie, signed at 19, got a 5 year 12.5 million dollar contract with Maroney, drafted at 21 , signed an 5 year, 8.75 million dollar contract.
Either way you look at it, Turner isn't going to come cheap.
 
Chargers mulling deal for Turner on eve of draft

By Kevin Acee

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

8:23 p.m. April 27, 2007

Michael Turner might not change this draft for the Chargers, but he could well set up an already-loaded franchise a year from now.

A source confirmed today that on the eve of the draft the Chargers are mulling an offer from an unidentified club for a first-round draft pick in 2008 in exchange for the backup running back.

Multiple teams are expected to call Smith with a trade offer during tomorrow's first round, but there still remains no guarantee Turner will be traded because Smith covets him as an insurance policy for this season.

The source would not say which team has stepped up with the best offer the Chargers have seen so far – the '08 first-rounder – but other sources said it is believed to be the Green Bay Packers.

Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith would not address the Turner situation today, but he has indicated in recent weeks he would take a first-rounder next year as part of a deal for Turner.

Sources also said the Chargers are trying to get more from the unidentified team.

Additionally, the Tennessee Titans are still negotiating with the Chargers but are loathe to part with a first-round pick. However, the Titans already have the parameters of a deal in place with Turner's agent, Bus Cook.

Turner visited Tennessee and Buffalo during the free agency period.

Buffalo, once the front-runner for Turner, according to sources, stopped negotiating with Cook last week when the two sides could not get close on money after numerous exchanges. Cook is asking for more than $17 million in guaranteed money in a five-year deal.

The mystery team, according to sources, is not going to work a deal with Cook up front. Instead, it will pay Turner the $2.35 million salary he is due this year and anticipate making him its franchise player in 2008, which would cost them approximately $7.5 million for that season. During that time, they will try to work a deal with Turner.

That is a scenario that goes against the conventional thinking that a team would always want to sign a player before parting with draft picks.

Even with the likelihood that numerous teams will make a play for Turner tomorrow, Smith has always said he is fine with keeping Turner for the 2007 season and then losing him as a free agent. Sources said Smith is still mulling that option, which likely would net the Chargers a compensatory third-round pick in the 2009 draft and give them the security of having Turner as they make an expected playoff run in '07.

Turner was a restricted free agent this offseason but went unsigned because any team signing him would have had to give the Chargers a first-round and third-round draft pick.

Smith never expected a team to part with a first and a third, but it was his starting point for the trade talks that have occurred with at least a half-dozen teams.

It is known that the Dallas Cowboys recently offered to swap spots with the Chargers in this year's first round and give them a third-round pick this year or next. Before the Chargers could decline the deal – which they would have – it was pulled by Dallas because of Cook's asking price.

Smith has maintained he is not interested in swapping first-round spots with a team.

As for which player the Chargers will take in today's first round, there are numerous possibilities since they do not make their first pick until 30th.

A receiver is needed, as is a safety. A linebacker would be a luxury.

All three are possibilities in the first round, depending on what happens in front of them.

Sources inside the organization indicated this week that a linebacker is a strong possibility with the 30th pick – likely Paul Poluszny or Jon Beason.

The Chargers have their starters for 2007 set at linebacker. But Stephen Cooper and Matt Wilhelm are new to the first team, and there is not much behind the starters either inside or outside.

Said Smith: “I love depth, and I love to look two or three years down the line – if you can stockpile.”

Still, there should be at least one receiver available at No. 30 who is ready to contribute immediately.

One factor that could affect whether the Chargers strike first on a receiver is that the depth of solid receivers in this draft is exceptional.

Should Robert Meachem of Tennessee or Dwayne Bowe of LSU be available, the Chargers consider both ready to contribute immediately.

If Meachem and Bowe are gone – they appear to be the most likely to be available by that point – the Chargers will likely wait until the second round to nab one of the other handful of solid receivers available.

It appears increasingly unlikely a safety worthy of the 30th pick will be available. So that could be another spot they wait on but will almost certainly fill with one of their four picks today.

What they will do in today's three rounds has all been sorted out over the past two weeks, much of it in the past 24 hours.

The team's many scouts and assistant coaches concluded their meetings with Smith and assistant GM Buddy Nix on Wednesday. Just Smith, Nix and head coach Norv Turner met for the past two days.

They considered every conceivable trade proposal, talked about every player that could be available to them with each pick (especially the first three rounds) and how that player will fit in to their scheme, every which way the draft might go in their opinion.

It was Smith who sat alone as yesterday afternoon turned to night.

He ruminated over the clusters of players – the group of four or five they might take at each spot they draft. By 9 p.m., he knew which player he would take at No. 30 if all falls as he figures this morning.

The Chargers are coming off a 14-2 season and don't need the draft to resurrect them as it did three years ago.

What might shape their actions today are the facts they have at least 18 returning starters in-house and a roster that is largely cemented.

“Our team is pretty set,” Smith said. “We like a lot of things. But my God, somebody is coming in here. You're drafting players to get better.”
Good article...pretty much confirms sources and updates the situation as it stands currently. Packers (allegedly) have offered R1 in '08...It appears the Titans need to sharpen the pencil and AJ Smith is willing to wait a little longer to see if that will happen, especially since they are willing to pay him what he wants and the "other team" will make the trade, then try to sign him after the fact...

 
Man, this is getting crazy.

Here's a conflicting report from JSonline (Milwaukee Journal Sentinal), the article is about Moss, but had this comment about Turner also...

"The Packers have also been mentioned as suitors for San Diego Chargers promising backup running back Michael Turner, but an NFL source said they were not the team who had offered a 2008 first-round pick for him on Friday. The Tennessee Titans are thought to be the most interested, although Green Bay has looked into the possibility of acquiring the powerful runner. As of late last night, Turner was still with the Chargers."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=597307

ETA I really hope Green Bay does get Turner and Moss for that matter. Thompson would be the new media darling here in Wisconsin if he pulled this off.

 
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Colin Dowling said:
The Titans have plenty of picks to deal for either/both of these guys. As much as I doubt it would work out, a 5th or 6th rounder for Williams wouldn't be a huge price for Tennessee. It's easy to forget that once upon a time Mike Williams was a very highly thought of prospect.
chow might know a thing or two about putting him in the best possible position to succeed... he admittedly looks way off, but BMW was rated #1 overall prospect by kiper just two years ago...
 
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From another board:

Billy Ray Smith just said the Turner deal is done . . .

But he's officially an idiot.

He was on the Padres postmortem, er, post game show.

He then said he "couldn't confirm it."

Then the Padres guy asked him if it was with Tennessee, and Smith said yes, that they would swap picks.

Padres guy: "What pick does Tennessee have?"

Smith: "Somewhere in the middle - 14 or 15."

AAHHHGGGHHH!!!

The night before the friggin' draft and he doesn't know where Tennessee is picking?

is there anyone on this board that wouldn't know, off the top of their head, where Tennessee, Buffalo and Green Bay are picking?

I remember again why I don't listen to 1090. They are the WORST prepared group of sports hosts I've ever heard.
I am sticking with my plan of not believing anything that comes from 1090.
 
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draftsharks EMAIL just in

April 28, 2007

Saturday morning 1:40 AM EST

** Our Titans insider just told Draftsharks.com the deal is "in place" for Tennessee to acquire Chargers RB Michael Turner before the draft begins today. We've been all over this one and it's finally happening. "Book it," our source said Friday evening. The Titans will reportedly part with their 2007 1st-rounder (#19) and either their 2nd-rounder (#50) or 3rd-rounder (#80) this year for the talented 237-lb back. Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt "really wants to swap out" for San Diego's late 1st-round pick at #30 instead of donating the #19, our source adds, "but it doesn't look like that will go off." This is still a good deal for both sides, barirng a last-second coup by Green Bay. Buffalo dropped out of the Turner sweepstakes two days ago.

:thumbup:

Ka-blam! I have yet to see this anywhere else. I hope Ten still gets to swap firsts, it seems like they would if they have to give up a second-rd pick right?

 
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Here's where the deal stands:

The Titans have offered a swap first round picks + 2nd round pick for Turner.

The Packers are contemplating another offer as well...

Tennessee has a contract (or the framework of one) already worked out with Turner. Green Bay does not...The next few hours will be very interesting indeed.

 
Swap + a 2nd is reasonable. The 1st and 2nd is not, IMO
Agreed. Would we try to move up and try and grab another day 1 pick if we swapped plus the 2nd?We could go: TurnerDE @ 30 (or WR if the value is good and we can move back into 2nd for a DE)WR in 3rdCB, ? in 4thwhich would be my preference
 
Buckna said:
Cook is asking for more than $17 million in guaranteed money in a five-year deal.
Interesting. Sounds like Cook is looking for more guaranteed money than Edge got last year ($11.5M).For reference, Chestor got $5.6M guaranteed last year and Lamont got $11M two years ago. To quote another poster:
That is a bit of an oversimplification though. Antonio Cromartie, signed at 19, got a 5 year 12.5 million dollar contract with Maroney, drafted at 21 , signed an 5 year, 8.75 million dollar contract.
Either way you look at it, Turner isn't going to come cheap.
I think if you are comparing starting skill position players salaries before the big increase in the salary cap to those after the big salary cap increase, none of them are going to come cheap.
 
People that don't believe in Turner will just pretend they did later, we can't win their weak debates. Not sure why they are even in here. If they don't think he is capable they wouldn't waste their time in here.

These ppl against Turner are just scared their statements that they have said against him will come back to burn them, so they stick around to see this thing through, so they can sleep at night! :D

Hate to break it to you guys that don't believe in Turner, but you won't be sleeping after today's draft and you wont be man enough to come back to this thread later in the year when Turner is stud.

 
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People that don't believe in Turner will just pretend they did later, we can't win their weak debates. Not sure why they are even in here. If they don't think he is capable they wouldn't waste their time in here.

These ppl against Turner are just scared their statements that they have said against him will come back to burn them, so they stick around to see this thing through, so they can sleep at night! :)

Hate to break it to you guys that don't believe in Turner, but you won't be sleeping after today's draft and you wont be man enough to come back to this thread later in the year when Turner is stud.
It is easy to claim now that you believe Turner will have an impact. A select few of us on this board we're beating the drum LAST YEAR and had predicted he would be traded as an RFA. Those owners who listened got Turner at a fairly reasonable price through trade or last year's draft (keeper or dynasty). Now the hype machine has kicked in and it is too late unless you're swimming in a league with a pool of guppies. At this point, anybody who is still claiming Turner won't be a stud is deluded and should hand over their footballguys decoder ring and Blackeyed Joe tee shirt. Membership does have its privileges. :D

 
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Draftsharks this morning:** Our Titans insider just told Draftsharks.com the deal is "in place" for Tennessee to acquire Chargers RB Michael Turner before the draft begins today. We've been all over this one and it's finally happening. "Book it," our source said Friday evening. The Titans will reportedly part with their 2007 1st-rounder (#19) and either their 2nd-rounder (#50) or 3rd-rounder (#80) this year for the talented 237-lb back. Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt "really wants to swap out" for San Diego's late 1st-round pick at #30 instead of donating the #19, our source adds, "but it doesn't look like that will go off." This is still a good deal for both sides, barirng a last-second coup by Green Bay. Buffalo dropped out of the Turner sweepstakes two days ago.
 
This was already posted.

Draftsharks this morning:** Our Titans insider just told Draftsharks.com the deal is "in place" for Tennessee to acquire Chargers RB Michael Turner before the draft begins today. We've been all over this one and it's finally happening. "Book it," our source said Friday evening. The Titans will reportedly part with their 2007 1st-rounder (#19) and either their 2nd-rounder (#50) or 3rd-rounder (#80) this year for the talented 237-lb back. Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt "really wants to swap out" for San Diego's late 1st-round pick at #30 instead of donating the #19, our source adds, "but it doesn't look like that will go off." This is still a good deal for both sides, barirng a last-second coup by Green Bay. Buffalo dropped out of the Turner sweepstakes two days ago.
If they were willing to give a 1st and 3rd why did they not just sign Turner as a URF. A 1st and 2nd makes no sense because that would be more than they had to give up to get the guy.No way any team give up a 1st and 3rd pick this year "Book it". They could switch 1st's and add a 3rd.
 
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Draftsharks this morning:** Our Titans insider just told Draftsharks.com the deal is "in place" for Tennessee to acquire Chargers RB Michael Turner before the draft begins today. We've been all over this one and it's finally happening. "Book it," our source said Friday evening. The Titans will reportedly part with their 2007 1st-rounder (#19) and either their 2nd-rounder (#50) or 3rd-rounder (#80) this year for the talented 237-lb back. Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt "really wants to swap out" for San Diego's late 1st-round pick at #30 instead of donating the #19, our source adds, "but it doesn't look like that will go off." This is still a good deal for both sides, barirng a last-second coup by Green Bay. Buffalo dropped out of the Turner sweepstakes two days ago.
If they were willing to give a 1st and 3rd why did they not just sign Turner as a URF. A 1st and 2nd makes no sense because that would be more than they had to give up to get the guy.No way any team give up a 1st and 3rd pick this year "Book it". They could switch 1st's and add a 3rd.
Article is poorly worded but the deal being spread around isn't the titans 1st and 2nd straight up but instead a first round swap and their second.
 
This was already posted.

Draftsharks this morning:** Our Titans insider just told Draftsharks.com the deal is "in place" for Tennessee to acquire Chargers RB Michael Turner before the draft begins today. We've been all over this one and it's finally happening. "Book it," our source said Friday evening. The Titans will reportedly part with their 2007 1st-rounder (#19) and either their 2nd-rounder (#50) or 3rd-rounder (#80) this year for the talented 237-lb back. Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt "really wants to swap out" for San Diego's late 1st-round pick at #30 instead of donating the #19, our source adds, "but it doesn't look like that will go off." This is still a good deal for both sides, barirng a last-second coup by Green Bay. Buffalo dropped out of the Turner sweepstakes two days ago.
If they were willing to give a 1st and 3rd why did they not just sign Turner as a URF. A 1st and 2nd makes no sense because that would be more than they had to give up to get the guy.No way any team give up a 1st and 3rd pick this year "Book it". They could switch 1st's and add a 3rd.
Article is poorly worded but the deal being spread around isn't the titans 1st and 2nd straight up but instead a first round swap and their second.
That would make more sense. I hope it happens!
 
chris1969 said:
He wouldn't have signed the tender offer if there wasn't a deal with someone in place.
actually by Turner signing the 1 year contract with SD, its easier to trade him now. He is no longer a RFA which requires the 1st & 3rd draft rd picks. There still is alot of issues for the trade to be completed though, hopefully the titans get him I need a 2nd RB keeper !
 
Buckna said:
Cook is asking for more than $17 million in guaranteed money in a five-year deal.
Interesting. Sounds like Cook is looking for more guaranteed money than Edge got last year ($11.5M).For reference, Chestor got $5.6M guaranteed last year and Lamont got $11M two years ago. To quote another poster:
That is a bit of an oversimplification though. Antonio Cromartie, signed at 19, got a 5 year 12.5 million dollar contract with Maroney, drafted at 21 , signed an 5 year, 8.75 million dollar contract.
Either way you look at it, Turner isn't going to come cheap.
I think if you are comparing starting skill position players salaries before the big increase in the salary cap to those after the big salary cap increase, none of them are going to come cheap.
This is an oversimplification as I am assuming salaries would increase dollar for dollar with the cap, but the salary cap increased $7M this year from 102M to 109M for 6.86%:Chestor's 5.6 would = $5.98MEdge's 11.5M = $12.29M#19 pick last year 12.5 = $13.36M total salary (not all guaranteed)#21 pick last year 8.75 = $9.35M total salary (not all guaranteed)Last year after the new CBA, the salary cap went up $17M from 85M to the new 102M for 20%:Lamont's 11M today = $14.1MCook is "reportedly" looking for $17M guaranteed.This doesn't take into account "total salary" for the deals, becuase we all know few players see their total dollar amounts and contracts can be very hard to compare side by side due to backloading, incentives, etc.
 
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Just pure speculation on my part, but I think the reason that they have not taken the 1st in 2008 yet is because the offer was made by KC. They might have a deal in place for LJ to go to GB. GB is seeing if they could trade Turner for LJ, but that's why KC is on the down low. They don't want to give GB the upper hand.

TENN might be the next best offer them.

 
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XXXXXXX released an exclusive via email overnight Friday that the deal is "in place" for Tennessee to acquire Chargers RB Michael Turner. "They've reached an agreement," our source says, "it's going down before [the draft]." Exact terms are still sketchy. Now we're told Tennessee gives San Diego a 2nd- and 4th-rounder and swap their 19th pick - not just giving it away - for the Chargers' 30th pick. The money is believed to include around $14 million guaranteed.

Sorry no linky but the site is Tennessee based and does have an insider. Its paid content, otherwise I would reveal the site.

 
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Sorry for another unofficial update teaser, but from another board:

NFL network just reported,"The Titans have offered a trade to San Diego for Michael Turner, and it's a good one, but the Chargers are still shopping the running back around."

 
Sorry for another unofficial update teaser, but from another board:

NFL network just reported,"The Titans have offered a trade to San Diego for Michael Turner, and it's a good one, but the Chargers are still shopping the running back around."
Think it's pretty safe to say he's all but gone. Chargers are just playing a couple teams against each other hoping to increase an already acceptable offer.
 
I kind of hope he ends up going to Green Bay just because it'd be kind of funny if the very first post in a 1300-post thread had it right all along.

Sports radio announced that the Green Bay Packers have expressed interest in trading for Michael Turner. There was talk all afternoon about the possibility, and that it would most likely be a draft day trade. It's apparent Green Bay is in the market for a RB, be it Michael Turner through trade, perhaps Marshawn Lynch via draft. This should get interesting.
 
I kind of hope he ends up going to Green Bay just because it'd be kind of funny if the very first post in a 1300-post thread had it right all along.

Sports radio announced that the Green Bay Packers have expressed interest in trading for Michael Turner. There was talk all afternoon about the possibility, and that it would most likely be a draft day trade. It's apparent Green Bay is in the market for a RB, be it Michael Turner through trade, perhaps Marshawn Lynch via draft. This should get interesting.
Nah I want him to go to TENN, GB to pass on a first round RB and then like idot I am, I can get all excitd about Morency starting for the pack. :) I own both these folks and that is the only reason I am touting the Morency KKOOLLAID.
 
We should all create an ***Offical Michael Turner Career Thread *** and see how quickly we can make it get to this size. Lets make FBG wonder how psycho we are? The "offseason" thread will eventually die, lets create a new one and talk Turner all year :)

While I want the waiting to end, I don't want the Turner talk to end.

 
We should all create an ***Offical Michael Turner Career Thread *** and see how quickly we can make it get to this size. Lets make FBG wonder how psycho we are? The "offseason" thread will eventually die, lets create a new one and talk Turner all year :)While I want the waiting to end, I don't want the Turner talk to end.
Dude, you are just ridiculous. :shrug:
 
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People that don't believe in Turner will just pretend they did later, we can't win their weak debates. Not sure why they are even in here. If they don't think he is capable they wouldn't waste their time in here.

These ppl against Turner are just scared their statements that they have said against him will come back to burn them, so they stick around to see this thing through, so they can sleep at night! :D

Hate to break it to you guys that don't believe in Turner, but you won't be sleeping after today's draft and you wont be man enough to come back to this thread later in the year when Turner is stud.
It is easy to claim now that you believe Turner will have an impact. A select few of us on this board we're beating the drum LAST YEAR and had predicted he would be traded as an RFA. Those owners who listened got Turner at a fairly reasonable price through trade or last year's draft (keeper or dynasty). Now the hype machine has kicked in and it is too late unless you're swimming in a league with a pool of guppies. At this point, anybody who is still claiming Turner won't be a stud is deluded and should hand over their footballguys decoder ring and Blackeyed Joe tee shirt. Membership does have its privileges. :D
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We should all create an ***Offical Michael Turner Career Thread *** and see how quickly we can make it get to this size. Lets make FBG wonder how psycho we are? The "offseason" thread will eventually die, lets create a new one and talk Turner all year :)While I want the waiting to end, I don't want the Turner talk to end.
Dude, you are just ridiculous. :lmao:
You're the one in OUR FORUM. :o
 
I'm new to this thread, but I don't get why the Bills wouldn't have traded the #12 for Turner.....is there much question that Turner's better than Lynch???

 
I'm new to this thread, but I don't get why the Bills wouldn't have traded the #12 for Turner.....is there much question that Turner's better than Lynch???
I suspect price was a factor. Turner wants $17M guaranteed, and his overall contract will probably be similar to Adrian Peterson's. Lynch will be quite a bit cheaper. Talent-wise, I think Turner is better but opinions may differ on that.
 

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