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*** Official Michael Turner 2007 offseason thread *** (2 Viewers)

NFL DRAFT: Chargers keep Turner, pick Davis and Weddle

SAN DIEGO- The most notable development for the Chargers, at least through the first round of Saturday's NFL draft, was that Michael Turner will continue to wear lighting bolts, at least for the time being.

After failing to trade Turner, the talented backup to league MVP LaDainian Tomlinson, the Chargers used the 30th pick overall to select LSU wide receiver Craig Davis.

Chargers general manager A.J. Smith didn't take questions from the media. But Titans coach Jeff Fisher confirmed to reporters in Tennessee that the teams had conversations involving the 19th pick, which Tennessee used on Texas safety Michael Griffin.

"There's still some scenarios regarding that," Fisher said of a potential trade for Turner, a restricted free agent.

In a brief statement after he picked Davis, Smith said there was "a lot of activity and I think it's going to continue."

No team signed Turner to an offer sheet by the deadline, perhaps scared off by the steep price of losing a first- and third-round draft pick had the Chargers not countered. Turner signed a $2.35 million, one-year tender on Friday, but still can be dealt.

With Turner's value to the Chargers at its highest, Smith was hoping to pry first- and third-round picks out of suitors, either this year or next.

On Wednesday, Smith said teams had offered "less than I would like" for Turner, who averaged 6.3 yards per carry last year in spelling Tomlinson. If Turner remains with the Chargers, he can leave as an unrestricted free agent after next season.

Griffin was one of the players the Chargers are believed to have targeted, along with safety Reggie Nelson, who went to Jacksonville with the 21st, and wide receiver Robert Meacham of Tennessee with the 27th pick.

The Chargers did get a safety, and it cost them plenty. San Diego swapped spots in the second round with Chicago to move up and take Utah's Eric Weddle. In order to make that move, the Chargers sent Chicago their third- and fifth-round picks this year and a third-rounder next year.

As for Davis, "We're adding a weapon to the offense, and also a punt returner, so we got two for the price of one," Smith said.

Davis started 25 of 44 games at LSU, catching 141 passes for 2,107 and seven touchdowns.

He was one of four LSU players taken in the first round.

Quarterback JaMarcus Russell went with the first pick to Oakland, defensive back LaRon Landry went to Washington at No. 6 and fellow wideout Dwayne Bowe was taken by AFC West rival Kansas City with the 23rd pick.

San Diego's young, undistinguished receiving corps doesn't have a go-to guy. Keenan McCardell was cut after his production dropped. Neither he nor the other opening day starter, Eric Parker, had a touchdown catch last season.

That said, the Chargers haven't had a wide receiver lead them in catches since Curtis Conway in 2001. Since then, either Tomlinson or All-Pro tight end Antonio Gates has had the most catches.

"The thing we feel about Craig is he is a complete receiver," coach Norv Turner said. "When Craig gets in here and understands what we're doing and makes the adjustment that all college players have to make, he can be a guy that can play outside, he can play in the slot, he can be a reverse runner.

"The thing that jumped out at me is he's got great hands," Turner said. "He has great run-after-the-catch ability. That's something we felt we could add to our football team. This is another young guy who's certainly going to contribute and have an effect."

The Chargers were an NFL-best 14-2 last season before losing to New England in their playoff opener. Coach Marty Schottenheimer was fired a month later because of what team president Dean Spanos called a "dysfunctional relationship" with Smith.

 
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"best player on our board" what kind of crap is that? the guy is prone to fumbling, can't block and hasn't shown he can actually produce. this has not been a good draft for us.
Hey but take comfort in SD being dults, given up their entire draft after Round 2 this year for one player, Thumb their nose at getting a good return for Turner and going in reverse after fleecing the Giants for Rivers in the Eli Manning trade(which was brilliant). When a man(AJ) gets full of himself, they do stupid things like dumping Marty, hiring a great Offensive Coordinator(but never was and will never be a good head coach) in place of Marty. They will be pissin themselves next year when they dont make the playoffs. I would pee laughing if the Raiders finish with a better record, not gonna happen but if it does..The culture of the Chargers Front Office has held them back for years, they were well coached last year and made the best of a very talented team. They will never win, or maybe even go to the Bowl with Nutjob in the front office. Too bad cause man for man they are an among the most elite of teams in the NFL.AJ gone next year could be the best thing for the Bolts. :goodposting:
 
"best player on our board" what kind of crap is that? the guy is prone to fumbling, can't block and hasn't shown he can actually produce. this has not been a good draft for us.
Hey but take comfort in SD being dults, given up their entire draft after Round 2 this year for one player, Thumb their nose at getting a good return for Turner and going in reverse after fleecing the Giants for Rivers in the Eli Manning trade(which was brilliant). When a man(AJ) gets full of himself, they do stupid things like dumping Marty, hiring a great Offensive Coordinator(but never was and will never be a good head coach) in place of Marty. They will be pissin themselves next year when they dont make the playoffs. I would pee laughing if the Raiders finish with a better record, not gonna happen but if it does..The culture of the Chargers Front Office has held them back for years, they were well coached last year and made the best of a very talented team. They will never win, or maybe even go to the Bowl with Nutjob in the front office. Too bad cause man for man they are an among the most elite of teams in the NFL.AJ gone next year could be the best thing for the Bolts. :hot:
I agree with this. I'm thinking the Eli trade sent Mr. Smith into the stratosphere. The way picks are valued now a days, to just shun a 1st for a backup RB is crazy. RB's drop most every year. Why? Because a ton of teams feel they can get a productive back in the mid to later rounds. If teams can get a productive starting RB in rounds other then the first, why do the Chargers think they can't even find a replacement backup RB in the third round? This is just crazy to me, who by the way is just a bystander. Don't really have much interest in San Diego or Tennessee or Turner. Take the first and help your team this year. Then select a RB in the mid rounds to serve as a backup. Fact is, Norv Turner has always and I mean always been a one RB coach. He has never, if at all possible, used a RBBC approach. OK...LT gets hurt. Could happen. What if Gates gets hurt? You can sit back and worry about injuries or you can help your team. A team that is close to the Super Bowl.On a side note, leading up to this, I have always got a kick out of AJ mentioning that he would get a compensary pick after next year for MT anyway. OK. We are in the present. San Diego is close to the Super Bowl now. That said, if I'm an GM and I offered my 2009 3rd round pick to a team today. What pick could I get for that? I'd say a 3rd in 2009 is worth no more then a 6th in the 2007 draft. Present value. Present value.
 
"best player on our board" what kind of crap is that? the guy is prone to fumbling, can't block and hasn't shown he can actually produce. this has not been a good draft for us.
Hey but take comfort in SD being dults, given up their entire draft after Round 2 this year for one player, Thumb their nose at getting a good return for Turner and going in reverse after fleecing the Giants for Rivers in the Eli Manning trade(which was brilliant). When a man(AJ) gets full of himself, they do stupid things like dumping Marty, hiring a great Offensive Coordinator(but never was and will never be a good head coach) in place of Marty. They will be pissin themselves next year when they dont make the playoffs. I would pee laughing if the Raiders finish with a better record, not gonna happen but if it does..The culture of the Chargers Front Office has held them back for years, they were well coached last year and made the best of a very talented team. They will never win, or maybe even go to the Bowl with Nutjob in the front office. Too bad cause man for man they are an among the most elite of teams in the NFL.AJ gone next year could be the best thing for the Bolts. :lmao:
I agree with this. I'm thinking the Eli trade sent Mr. Smith into the stratosphere. The way picks are valued now a days, to just shun a 1st for a backup RB is crazy. RB's drop most every year. Why? Because a ton of teams feel they can get a productive back in the mid to later rounds. If teams can get a productive starting RB in rounds other then the first, why do the Chargers think they can't even find a replacement backup RB in the third round? This is just crazy to me, who by the way is just a bystander. Don't really have much interest in San Diego or Tennessee or Turner. Take the first and help your team this year. Then select a RB in the mid rounds to serve as a backup. Fact is, Norv Turner has always and I mean always been a one RB coach. He has never, if at all possible, used a RBBC approach. OK...LT gets hurt. Could happen. What if Gates gets hurt? You can sit back and worry about injuries or you can help your team. A team that is close to the Super Bowl.On a side note, leading up to this, I have always got a kick out of AJ mentioning that he would get a compensary pick after next year for MT anyway. OK. We are in the present. San Diego is close to the Super Bowl now. That said, if I'm an GM and I offered my 2009 3rd round pick to a team today. What pick could I get for that? I'd say a 3rd in 2009 is worth no more then a 6th in the 2007 draft. Present value. Present value.
:lmao: He wont even get a third a fourth is the best he can hope for. Which is equivalent to about a 7th this year
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
No kidding. Change the title of this thread to; "I own M.Turner and I need a hug!". You gambled. You lost. Get over it and quit your sobbing.
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Lakers fans are not allowed to post here, go read the Rules you will see it states clearly, No Lakers, Phil Jackson, Kobe or Evil Knieval fans allowed to post in any FFGUYS Forum.
 
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Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
Sure The Browns did not weaken their current team by trading a future first rounder for Quinn.The Chargers trading Turner for a future first rounder does.
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Lakers fans are not allowed to post here, go read the Rules you will see it states clearly, No Lakers, Phil Jackson, Kobe or Evil Knieval fans allowed to post in any FFGUYS Forum.
Hey are the Lakers in the NBA Finals?
No they are down 1-2 in the first round on the playoffs.Game 4 is tomorrow night
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
Sure The Browns did not weaken their current team by trading a future first rounder for Quinn.The Chargers trading Turner for a future first rounder does.
Turner is a backup RB. That is what he is for the Chargers. I'd say Gates means a hell of a lot to the Chargers team. Would the Chargers not trade their backup TE for a 1st either? This failure by AJ is comical. Turner, as it relates to the San Diego Chargers, could have been replaced with a 4th round pick this year (Pittman???). He is a backup for the Chargers. Not a starter. I think people forgot this.
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
Sure The Browns did not weaken their current team by trading a future first rounder for Quinn.The Chargers trading Turner for a future first rounder does.
Turner is a backup RB. That is what he is for the Chargers. I'd say Gates means a hell of a lot to the Chargers team. Would the Chargers not trade their backup TE for a 1st either? This failure by AJ is comical. Turner, as it relates to the San Diego Chargers, could have been replaced with a 4th round pick this year (Pittman???). He is a backup for the Chargers. Not a starter. I think people forgot this.
I should add that I don't think the Chargers should have just given Turner away just because he is a backup for them. The fact is, they were offered a 1st round pick. In the NFL, that is a ton. Marshall Faulk could only get the Colts a 2nd and 5th. S. Alexander and Edge could even get a 2nd round pick. This is just flat out funny. AJ must have read too many press clippings after the Eli trade he worked out. He failed miserably today.
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
Sure The Browns did not weaken their current team by trading a future first rounder for Quinn.The Chargers trading Turner for a future first rounder does.
Turner is a backup RB. That is what he is for the Chargers. I'd say Gates means a hell of a lot to the Chargers team. Would the Chargers not trade their backup TE for a 1st either? This failure by AJ is comical. Turner, as it relates to the San Diego Chargers, could have been replaced with a 4th round pick this year (Pittman???). He is a backup for the Chargers. Not a starter. I think people forgot this.
I should add that I don't think the Chargers should have just given Turner away just because he is a backup for them. The fact is, they were offered a 1st round pick. In the NFL, that is a ton. Marshall Faulk could only get the Colts a 2nd and 5th. S. Alexander and Edge could even get a 2nd round pick. This is just flat out funny. AJ must have read too many press clippings after the Eli trade he worked out. He failed miserably today.
He failed to make your fantasy team happy, but thats about it.The price has always been a first and third rounder if another team wanted Turner. No team met those demands so he kept Turner because it gives the Chargers the best opportunity to win NOW.
 
Turner traded to Giants

Giants | Trade 2008 1st for Turner

Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:30 -0700

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports the, that the San Diego Chargers have accepted a deal to receive a first-round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft in exchange for RB Michael Turner.

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Turner traded to Giants

Giants | Trade 2008 1st for Turner

Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:30 -0700

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports the, that the San Diego Chargers have accepted a deal to receive a first-round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft in exchange for RB Michael Turner.

LINK
YES!!!!!!!
 
I think this one is on life support/dead for the Titans ...According to Titansradio.com:

Fisher: Chargers Wanted Too Much For Turner

By Jonathan Hutton April 28, 2007

Titans Head Coach Jeff Fisher said the Chargers upped the price on running back Michael Turner Saturday night, ending the possibility of a trade.

''It became obvious to us they were not willing to move him,'' Fisher said. ''They wanted the assurance of knowing they had a backup to LaDanian Tomlinson, I think.''

Fisher said San Diego asked for a first round draft pick in the 2008 draft as well as compensation this year.

''At one point early in the round, they actually wanted more,'' Fisher said. ''We weren't willing to consider future picks and multiple picks in the round.''

When the Turner talks appeared to be going nowhere, Fisher said the Titans turned their attention to running back Chris Henry, the team's second round draft pick.

''He was clearly the best player on our board at that time,'' Fisher said.

 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
Sure The Browns did not weaken their current team by trading a future first rounder for Quinn.The Chargers trading Turner for a future first rounder does.
Turner is a backup RB. That is what he is for the Chargers. I'd say Gates means a hell of a lot to the Chargers team. Would the Chargers not trade their backup TE for a 1st either? This failure by AJ is comical. Turner, as it relates to the San Diego Chargers, could have been replaced with a 4th round pick this year (Pittman???). He is a backup for the Chargers. Not a starter. I think people forgot this.
I should add that I don't think the Chargers should have just given Turner away just because he is a backup for them. The fact is, they were offered a 1st round pick. In the NFL, that is a ton. Marshall Faulk could only get the Colts a 2nd and 5th. S. Alexander and Edge could even get a 2nd round pick. This is just flat out funny. AJ must have read too many press clippings after the Eli trade he worked out. He failed miserably today.
Waaaait. How much was Marshall Faulk traded for again? If it's repeated just a few more times I think it will gain relevance. Kind of a snowball effect..... until it matters. Or not. AJ decided how much it would take for some other team to pry Turner from him. Nobody was willing to part with that much and AJ was more than willing to keep Turner on the team.... just as he's said all along. This isn't Carl Peterson you're dealing with telling you one day a guy is worth a 2nd rounder and the next "Kidding! Can I have a 4th for him...... pretty please. Oh please, I don't wanna have to pay this guy!".
 
Anyway AJ can franchise tag MT and do a sign and trade with a crappie team like Arizona so that he can screw over Turner even more then he already has?

 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
Sure The Browns did not weaken their current team by trading a future first rounder for Quinn.The Chargers trading Turner for a future first rounder does.
Turner is a backup RB. That is what he is for the Chargers. I'd say Gates means a hell of a lot to the Chargers team. Would the Chargers not trade their backup TE for a 1st either? This failure by AJ is comical. Turner, as it relates to the San Diego Chargers, could have been replaced with a 4th round pick this year (Pittman???). He is a backup for the Chargers. Not a starter. I think people forgot this.
I should add that I don't think the Chargers should have just given Turner away just because he is a backup for them. The fact is, they were offered a 1st round pick. In the NFL, that is a ton. Marshall Faulk could only get the Colts a 2nd and 5th. S. Alexander and Edge could even get a 2nd round pick. This is just flat out funny. AJ must have read too many press clippings after the Eli trade he worked out. He failed miserably today.
Waaaait. How much was Marshall Faulk traded for again? If it's repeated just a few more times I think it will gain relevance. Kind of a snowball effect..... until it matters. Or not. AJ decided how much it would take for some other team to pry Turner from him. Nobody was willing to part with that much and AJ was more than willing to keep Turner on the team.... just as he's said all along. This isn't Carl Peterson you're dealing with telling you one day a guy is worth a 2nd rounder and the next "Kidding! Can I have a 4th for him...... pretty please. Oh please, I don't wanna have to pay this guy!".
Take off the powder blue shades for just one minute. Bottom line AJ Smith is an EXCELLENT GM but in this instance he dropped the ball. Michael Griffin, Brandon Meriweather, or Reggie Nelson with Antonio Pittman present a better chance of contributing and winning more games than Eric Weddle and Michael Turner.
 
Anyway AJ can franchise tag MT and do a sign and trade with a crappie team like Arizona so that he can screw over Turner even more then he already has?
SD extended most of their corp players before the salary cap increase and really haven't signed a big-name FA for a very long time so I wouldn't be surprised if they have quite a bit of salary cap room for the next few years. Wouldn't it be funny if, given the amount of salary cap room they have and AJ's high opinion of Turner, the Chargers held onto him with the franchise tag for a couple more years?
 
Lots a bitter fantasy football owners in here that seem to forget a draft pick next year doesnt help the Chargers quest for a title this year
Huh? A 1st next year seemed to help the Browns this year in the acquisition of Brady Quinn? Please explain this one for me. Thanks.
Sure The Browns did not weaken their current team by trading a future first rounder for Quinn.The Chargers trading Turner for a future first rounder does.
Turner is a backup RB. That is what he is for the Chargers. I'd say Gates means a hell of a lot to the Chargers team. Would the Chargers not trade their backup TE for a 1st either? This failure by AJ is comical. Turner, as it relates to the San Diego Chargers, could have been replaced with a 4th round pick this year (Pittman???). He is a backup for the Chargers. Not a starter. I think people forgot this.
I should add that I don't think the Chargers should have just given Turner away just because he is a backup for them. The fact is, they were offered a 1st round pick. In the NFL, that is a ton. Marshall Faulk could only get the Colts a 2nd and 5th. S. Alexander and Edge could even get a 2nd round pick. This is just flat out funny. AJ must have read too many press clippings after the Eli trade he worked out. He failed miserably today.
Waaaait. How much was Marshall Faulk traded for again? If it's repeated just a few more times I think it will gain relevance. Kind of a snowball effect..... until it matters. Or not. AJ decided how much it would take for some other team to pry Turner from him. Nobody was willing to part with that much and AJ was more than willing to keep Turner on the team.... just as he's said all along. This isn't Carl Peterson you're dealing with telling you one day a guy is worth a 2nd rounder and the next "Kidding! Can I have a 4th for him...... pretty please. Oh please, I don't wanna have to pay this guy!".
Take off the powder blue shades for just one minute. Bottom line AJ Smith is an EXCELLENT GM but in this instance he dropped the ball. Michael Griffin, Brandon Meriweather, or Reggie Nelson with Antonio Pittman present a better chance of contributing and winning more games than Eric Weddle and Michael Turner.
I agree however I don't think the Titans ever offered their first round pick this year for Micheal Turner.
 
Anyway AJ can franchise tag MT and do a sign and trade with a crappie team like Arizona so that he can screw over Turner even more then he already has?
SD extended most of their corp players before the salary cap increase and really haven't signed a big-name FA for a very long time so I wouldn't be surprised if they have quite a bit of salary cap room for the next few years. Wouldn't it be funny if, given the amount of salary cap room they have and AJ's high opinion of Turner, the Chargers held onto him with the franchise tag for a couple more years?
I was curious about that as well. I know when Smith decided not to franchise Brees there was not really a trade market for him, but whats stopping him from franchising Turner and trading him for picks next year?
 
Turner, as it relates to the San Diego Chargers, could have been replaced with a 4th round pick this year (Pittman???).
A lot of non-Charger fans really wanted the Chargers to trade Turner, it seems, but I don't think any Chargers fans are disappointed at all with the prospect of keeping him for another year. Does that give you pause to consider that maybe you're not looking at the situation with the Chargers' best interests in mind?
 
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BoltBacker said:
Beaumont said:
AtomicDogg97 said:
Michael Turner to the Browns in 2008 free agency. :yes:
Houston will be all over Turner next year also ...
I would assume DEN would be also. All the more reason to franchise him.
Why would the chargers want to pay $7.5M for Mike Turner to backup LT for one year?
They could franchise him with the intention of trading him no?
 
BoltBacker said:
Beaumont said:
AtomicDogg97 said:
Michael Turner to the Browns in 2008 free agency. :yes:
Houston will be all over Turner next year also ...
I would assume DEN would be also. All the more reason to franchise him.
Why would the chargers want to pay $7.5M for Mike Turner to backup LT for one year?
They could franchise him with the intention of trading him no?
Probably not. Who's going to give up a draft pick for the right to pay him $7.5M for one year after which he'll become a free agent?A team would be willing to trade for him if they can sign him to a long-term deal, but Turner would have to agree to it. From Turner's perspective, he can sign a long-term deal in 2009 after he makes his guaranteed $7.5M in 2008 (which is likely more than he'd average under a long-term contract).Anything's possible, but I don't think the Chargers would franchise Turner unless they'd be willing to pay him $7.5M in 2008 (actually, it may be more like $8M by then), and I don't think they will be.
 
BoltBacker said:
Beaumont said:
AtomicDogg97 said:
Michael Turner to the Browns in 2008 free agency. :yes:
Houston will be all over Turner next year also ...
I would assume DEN would be also. All the more reason to franchise him.
Why would the chargers want to pay $7.5M for Mike Turner to backup LT for one year?
They could franchise him with the intention of trading him no?
:yes: ;) :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: hasn't this been the point all along? :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: at some point you're bleeding a turnip
 
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BoltBacker said:
Beaumont said:
AtomicDogg97 said:
Michael Turner to the Browns in 2008 free agency. :yes:
Houston will be all over Turner next year also ...
I would assume DEN would be also. All the more reason to franchise him.
Why would the chargers want to pay $7.5M for Mike Turner to backup LT for one year?
They could franchise him with the intention of trading him no?
Probably not. Who's going to give up a draft pick for the right to pay him $7.5M for one year after which he'll become a free agent?A team would be willing to trade for him if they can sign him to a long-term deal, but Turner would have to agree to it. From Turner's perspective, he can sign a long-term deal in 2009 after he makes his guaranteed $7.5M in 2008 (which is likely more than he'd average under a long-term contract).Anything's possible, but I don't think the Chargers would franchise Turner unless they'd be willing to pay him $7.5M in 2008 (actually, it may be more like $8M by then), and I don't think they will be.
Asaunte Samuel and Lance Briggs both would prefer a long term deal over a 1 year franchise tender. I think Turner would take the longer contract with more guaranteed money if he had the choice. Whether or not the Chargers will have the cap space to pull something like that off next year might be another story.
 
Why are charger fans pissy?

According the talk around here, he's an elite RB. For 2007 your team is stronger with Turner, then some rookie. Chargers are trying to win the SB. Imagine how deadly a Turner/LT backfield will be.

Oh wait, we've seen it, in the playoffs, Turner got less touches then Lorenzo Neal.

Okay maybe they should have traded him.

 
BoltBacker said:
Beaumont said:
AtomicDogg97 said:
Michael Turner to the Browns in 2008 free agency. :yes:
Houston will be all over Turner next year also ...
I would assume DEN would be also. All the more reason to franchise him.
Why would the chargers want to pay $7.5M for Mike Turner to backup LT for one year?
They could franchise him with the intention of trading him no?
Probably not. Who's going to give up a draft pick for the right to pay him $7.5M for one year after which he'll become a free agent?A team would be willing to trade for him if they can sign him to a long-term deal, but Turner would have to agree to it. From Turner's perspective, he can sign a long-term deal in 2009 after he makes his guaranteed $7.5M in 2008 (which is likely more than he'd average under a long-term contract).Anything's possible, but I don't think the Chargers would franchise Turner unless they'd be willing to pay him $7.5M in 2008 (actually, it may be more like $8M by then), and I don't think they will be.
Asaunte Samuel and Lance Briggs both would prefer a long term deal over a 1 year franchise tender. I think Turner would take the longer contract with more guaranteed money if he had the choice. Whether or not the Chargers will have the cap space to pull something like that off next year might be another story.
I don't think so. Turner is not a full time player and is unlikely to get hurt in his limited playing time. Full time players are much more likely to get injured and are generally in a rush to cash in on their established playing records before that happens. Turner, as much promise as he has shown, doesn't have the resume to command top guaranteed money yet.
 
Asaunte Samuel and Lance Briggs both would prefer a long term deal over a 1 year franchise tender.
Turner is probably going to get in the neighborhood of $5M-$6M/yr as a free agent. That's less than the $7.5M he'd get under the franchise tag.Lance Briggs turned down a $5.5M/yr deal before his Pro Bowl season last year. What would he get on the open market now? Probably more than the $7.2M franchise tag price for his position, right? (Porter just got about $6.5M/yr with $20M guaranteed, and Briggs has a lot more upside than Porter over the next few years.)Asante Samuel is looking for $10M/yr.Turner is in a different situation from Briggs or Samuel.
 
Why are charger fans pissy?According the talk around here, he's an elite RB. For 2007 your team is stronger with Turner, then some rookie. Chargers are trying to win the SB. Imagine how deadly a Turner/LT backfield will be.
As far as I can tell, everyone who is pissy about a deal not getting done is a non-Charger fan.
 
Asaunte Samuel and Lance Briggs both would prefer a long term deal over a 1 year franchise tender.
Turner is probably going to get in the neighborhood of $5M-$6M/yr as a free agent. That's less than the $7.5M he'd get under the franchise tag.Lance Briggs turned down a $5.5M/yr deal before his Pro Bowl season last year. What would he get on the open market now? Probably more than the $7.2M franchise tag price for his position, right? (Porter just got about $6.5M/yr with $20M guaranteed, and Briggs has a lot more upside than Porter over the next few years.)Asante Samuel is looking for $10M/yr.Turner is in a different situation from Briggs or Samuel.
I think Turner or almost any player would concede a higher annual salary paid in weekly increments in exchange for much more guaranteed money, a large signing bonus and the opportunity to be the primary ball carrier if it came down to it.
 
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TitanBlitz said:
RD1967 said:
ATC1 said:
Chris Henry...... :bye:
WOW the 15th rated RB taken by TENN :banned: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
According to who? Scout had him top 10...Kiper - Top 5, etc...
He jumped up the board because of Combine numbers and nothing more. Kipper long ago lost his abilitie to judge football talent. Quote from NFL Countdown_ "Looks like Tarzan Plays like Jane"From NFL DRAFT SCOUT: " Chris Henry, Arizona (5-11¼, 230; 4.41)

Henry had a complete workout at the Combine. He ran his 40s in 4.40 and 4.42 seconds, the short shuttle in 4.14 and the three-cone drill in 6.96. He also had a 36-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-7 broad jump and 26 bench presses. In high school, he was mostly a blocking back for a star rusher. He was a California state champion in the 100 meters (10.56), and also played basketball and baseball. Some college teams projected him as a linebacker. As a true freshman at Arizona in 2003, he played in two games before getting hurt. In 2004-05, he was a backup to Mike Bell, and he started six games in 2006, when he led the team with 581 rushing yards on 3.5 yards per carry. His best game was against Oregon on Nov. 18, when he rushed for 191 yards and two touchdowns, including a 61-yard score. He has everything you want in a running back -- size, speed, quick feet, overall quickness, and the power to run over people or around them. He can catch the ball with ease, but his peripheral vision is not that great. How come he didn't play more in college? He left school early. Will he be a star, regular, backup or bust? The guess here is because of his upside, he will be drafted on Day 1, perhaps late in the second round."

Fact is prior to the combine he was way outside most people's line of site. but here is more

Draft Inc: Lacks ideal starting experience; he was never the fulltime load-carrier in college. Not overly elusive and won't make many defenders miss in space. He is impatient; will run up the heels of his linemen and also looks to bounce plays outside too early. He is big and strong, but doesn't consistently run with good pad-level and takes too many shots to his body. He's not a great route runner and his pass-blocking technique is marginal. We also have concerns about his competitiveness after his decision to leave school rather than compete for the starting job at Arizona in 2007.

top 5, 10, 15 - the fact is when and where he was drafted this year was off the mark. Henry is a guy you draft in th 5th or 6th round.

 

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