***Official MLB 2013 Season Thread (4 Viewers)

[Doctor Detroit]

So they wouldn't give up Olt plus a prospect for Lee last summer but give him up and more for Garza?

Because Olt's value is exactly the same as it was last year?

He's not even the best prospect in the trade this year.

He had eye issues which are apparently fixed now and still got baseball America's #44 prospect in the mid-season report. Who is the better prospect?

edwards

Not even rated a top ten prospect on the Rangers franchise.

It's like any ranking system, guys who are falling will be ahead of guys who are rising ... until they aren't.

ETA: Buster Olney on Twitter: C.J. Edwards has taken a big jump forward in '13. He's the centerpiece of this deal for Cubs.

If you say so.

 

[Eephus]

So they wouldn't give up Olt plus a prospect for Lee last summer but give him up and more for Garza?

Because Olt's value is exactly the same as it was last year?

He's not even the best prospect in the trade this year.

He had eye issues which are apparently fixed now and still got baseball America's #44 prospect in the mid-season report. Who is the better prospect?

edwards

Not even rated a top ten prospect on the Rangers franchise.

It's like any ranking system, guys who are falling will be ahead of guys who are rising ... until they aren't.

ETA: Buster Olney on Twitter: C.J. Edwards has taken a big jump forward in '13. He's the centerpiece of this deal for Cubs.

If you say so.

He's having a nice year but it's a long way from the Sally League to the show.

 

[pantagrapher]

So they wouldn't give up Olt plus a prospect for Lee last summer but give him up and more for Garza?

Because Olt's value is exactly the same as it was last year?

He's not even the best prospect in the trade this year.

He had eye issues which are apparently fixed now and still got baseball America's #44 prospect in the mid-season report. Who is the better prospect?

edwards

Not even rated a top ten prospect on the Rangers franchise.

It's like any ranking system, guys who are falling will be ahead of guys who are rising ... until they aren't.

ETA: Buster Olney on Twitter: C.J. Edwards has taken a big jump forward in '13. He's the centerpiece of this deal for Cubs.

If you say so.

That's Olney's assessment, not mine.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Braun's value taking a huge hit in dynasty leagues. I just landed him for BJ Upton and George Springer.

After being elated initially, I'm now wondering if I gave too much.

 

[Eephus]

Braun's value taking a huge hit in dynasty leagues. I just landed him for BJ Upton and George Springer.

After being elated initially, I'm now wondering if I gave too much.

Braun side wins that trade

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Braun's value taking a huge hit in dynasty leagues. I just landed him for BJ Upton and George Springer.

After being elated initially, I'm now wondering if I gave too much.

Braun side wins that trade

If it was Jerry instead of George, I'm not so sure.

 

[Annyong]

Jerry Springer is awesome

 

[JaxBill]

Marlins rushing Marisnick and Yelich to big leagues. Sending down two other kids they rushed up there, Ozuna and Dietrich.

Yelich has recovered after a slow start but really Marisnick has been the more ready of the two. Both very talented and the ball jumps off the bat.

This is such a lost season, I would have promoted them to AAA and waited until Sept if not next year.

[SIZE=small]Manager Mike Redmond said he anticipates both players starting Tuesday. Marisnick will man center and Yelich will play left.[/SIZE]

 

[Billy Bats]

Soriano close to going back to the Yanks.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

 

[shadyridr]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

I can't imagine Cano goes for only 7/140. Pedroia's deal is below market and also doesn't even start until 2015. Yes he's one year younger than Cano, but a deal that doesn't start for 1.5 seasons is very different than a deal that starts immediately. The risk of injury/decline is far greater when there's 200+ games between when you put pen to paper and the start of the next deal.

 

[SwampDawg]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Yankees fan here and I'd rather have Pedroia then Cano if Cano costs even a million a year more.

 

[Billy Bats]

Are the Yanks set on re-signing Cano or is there a good chance he walks?

 

[shadyridr]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Yankees fan here and I'd rather have Pedroia then Cano if Cano costs even a million a year more.

Whats the War to $$ conversion again? $5m per Win? Cano's WAR is 3.9, Pedroia is 3.4 meaning Cano is worth $2.5m more?

 

[shadyridr]

Are the Yanks set on re-signing Cano or is there a good chance he walks?

Id say 75/25 he resigns

 

[TobiasFunke]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Yankees fan here and I'd rather have Pedroia then Cano if Cano costs even a million a year more.

Whats the War to $$ conversion again? $5m per Win? Cano's WAR is 3.9, Pedroia is 3.4 meaning Cano is worth $2.5m more?

You'd have to project it out to the end of the year for the WAR to $ conversion to work, so they'd be separated by .8 or so. Although I think the conversion is flawed, both because WAR is flawed and because it's based on outdated finances. The new TV contracts and the new restrictions on spending on the draft and international signings mean the teams have more money than ever to spend on marginal wins in free agency.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Yankees fan here and I'd rather have Pedroia then Cano if Cano costs even a million a year more.

Whats the War to $$ conversion again? $5m per Win? Cano's WAR is 3.9, Pedroia is 3.4 meaning Cano is worth $2.5m more?

You'd have to project it out to the end of the year for the WAR to $ conversion to work, so they'd be separated by .8 or so. Although I think the conversion is flawed, both because WAR is flawed and because it's based on outdated finances. The new TV contracts and the new restrictions on spending on the draft and international signings mean the teams have more money than ever to spend on marginal wins in free agency.

To be fair to Cano, I think Cano had like a 8 WAR last year and Pedroia only had a little above a 4. Still for their careers since 2008, Pedroia and Cano are basically even for WAR with Pedroia being slightly higher. Most of it I think can attributed to defensive measureables with Pedroia and Cano even though Cano is a 2 time gold glove winner.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Yankees fan here and I'd rather have Pedroia then Cano if Cano costs even a million a year more.

Whats the War to $$ conversion again? $5m per Win? Cano's WAR is 3.9, Pedroia is 3.4 meaning Cano is worth $2.5m more?

You'd have to project it out to the end of the year for the WAR to $ conversion to work, so they'd be separated by .8 or so. Although I think the conversion is flawed, both because WAR is flawed and because it's based on outdated finances. The new TV contracts and the new restrictions on spending on the draft and international signings mean the teams have more money than ever to spend on marginal wins in free agency.

Also, is the WAR/$ based on FA contracts or all contracts? Because wouldn't that number be challenging based on the service-time contract structure. Like Trout would suggest around $25,000 per win while Pujols would be like $5 mill per win right now.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Yankees fan here and I'd rather have Pedroia then Cano if Cano costs even a million a year more.

Whats the War to $$ conversion again? $5m per Win? Cano's WAR is 3.9, Pedroia is 3.4 meaning Cano is worth $2.5m more?

You'd have to project it out to the end of the year for the WAR to $ conversion to work, so they'd be separated by .8 or so. Although I think the conversion is flawed, both because WAR is flawed and because it's based on outdated finances. The new TV contracts and the new restrictions on spending on the draft and international signings mean the teams have more money than ever to spend on marginal wins in free agency.

Also, is the WAR/$ based on FA contracts or all contracts? Because wouldn't that number be challenging based on the service-time contract structure. Like Trout would suggest around $25,000 per win while Pujols would be like $5 mill per win right now.

I don't know the methodology, but I assume it's based on spending on veterans. I assume you'd have to eliminate pre-arb guys otherwise the whole thing kinda breaks down.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

nice blog post about it: http://blogs.providencejournal.com/sports/red-sox/2012/12/whats-a-win-worth-evaluating-prices-on-the-free-agent-market.html

 

[Raider Nation]

Yanks on national TV for the 4th day in a row. Imagine if they were good?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Orioles get K-Rod from Milwaukee for a minor league infielder (Nick Delmonico).

What does that do for each team's bullpens?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Orioles get K-Rod from Milwaukee for a minor league infielder (Nick Delmonico).

What does that do for each team's bullpens?

Henderson closes and KRod is 8th inning guy in B-More. Showalter is Leyland-esque with his closer, K-Rod has no shot IMO.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Orioles get K-Rod from Milwaukee for a minor league infielder (Nick Delmonico).

What does that do for each team's bullpens?

Henderson closes and KRod is 8th inning guy in B-More. Showalter is Leyland-esque with his closer, K-Rod has no shot IMO.

Figured as much. K-Rod owner already dropped him for Henderson.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Oakland is now 11-1 vs the Astros this year.

 

[sporthenry]

Frieri putting in a solid 135 ERA 15.00 WHIP for the day.

 

[jamny]

Are the Yanks set on re-signing Cano or is there a good chance he walks?

Id say 75/25 he resigns

I seriously doubt he quits baseball.

 

[rodg12]

Pedroia's contract is 8 years, $110 million with a $1 million signing bonus. Gave the freaking Red Sox a break on that deal.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Are the Yanks set on re-signing Cano or is there a good chance he walks?

Id say 75/25 he resigns

I seriously doubt he quits baseball.

I say he goes to the KHL

 

[Limp Ditka]

That Hudson injury is as bad as you see on the baseball field.

just awful.

 

[Raider Nation]

Huddy carted off with a hideous injury. Young stepped on his ankle with his full weight. :(

 

[Raider Nation]

That Hudson injury is as bad as you see on the baseball field.

just awful.

this

 

[Raider Nation]

I wish home plate umps would start calling strikes every time meathead Jonny Gomes steps out of the box in between pitches for more than 15 seconds... which is to say, EVERY time. Jesus Christ, dude. Get back in the f--kin box already!!!

 

[Raider Nation]

That Hudson injury is as bad as you see on the baseball field.

just awful.

this

http://deadspin.com/tim-hudson-suffers-gruesome-ankle-injury-taken-off-fie-903482242?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

 

[Doctor Detroit]

That Hudson injury is as bad as you see on the baseball field.

just awful.

I was thinking of dropping him soon but this wasn't the reason I wanted to do it. Damn.

 

[GroveDiesel]

:( My guess is that's a wrap on Hudson's career. My buddy and I were debating whether he would even make the playoff roster if they qualify, but you never want to see that. That was one reason I was glad Chipper came back after the ACL tear. But I think Hudson was probably done anyway.

 

[Limp Ditka]

:( My guess is that's a wrap on Hudson's career. My buddy and I were debating whether he would even make the playoff roster if they qualify, but you never want to see that. That was one reason I was glad Chipper came back after the ACL tear. But I think Hudson was probably done anyway.

I know he had a rough couple of outings, but since June 1st he's

4-3 in 10 starts

2.75ish ERA

WHIP < 1.10

 

[Northern Voice]

:( My guess is that's a wrap on Hudson's career. My buddy and I were debating whether he would even make the playoff roster if they qualify, but you never want to see that. That was one reason I was glad Chipper came back after the ACL tear. But I think Hudson was probably done anyway.

I know he had a rough couple of outings, but since June 1st he's

4-3 in 10 starts

2.75ish ERA

WHIP < 1.10

Yeah he hasn't been bad at all, I'd think he definitely would have been in the playoff roster, will be interesting to see if he comes back, given his age.

 

[cheese]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Cano is going to get what he wants IMO. 200M without a problem. Several big money teams struggling this year and teams have more money than ever to do something about it. Very limited options on great players to spend it on. Besides that, it's the Yankees. They're going to at least try to win the bidding war on their own superstar I would think.

Oh, and the Dodgers still seem to be playing with monopoly money.

 

[The_Man]

After Chris Davis hit HRs in 4 straight games leading up to the All-Star Break, it's been demoralizing seeing him flail since the Home Run Derby f'ed up his hand (and swing).

For fun, I put together the stats for all 8 guys who participated in the Home Run Derby. In a combined 167 at-bats over 43 games, they are:

.274, 9 2Bs, 4 HR, 22 RBI

Fielder's HR last night was the first that a guy from the AL Derby squad has hit since the Break.

I HATE HAVING ONE OF MY TEAM'S PLAYERS IN THE HOME RUN DERBY

AL

Davis: 6 for 24, 3 2b, 4 rbi

Cespedes: 2 for 6, 1 2b, 0 RBI

Fielder: 7 for 23, 1 HR, 5 RBI

Cano: 7 for 24, 1 2b, 0 HR, 5 RBI

NL

David Wright: 7 for 24, 2 HR, 4 RBI

Carlos Gonzalez: 5 for 22, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI

Cuddyer: 6 for 20, 2 2b, 1 rbi

Harper: 5 for 21, 1 2b, 0 rbi

 

[fred_1_15301]

After Chris Davis hit HRs in 4 straight games leading up to the All-Star Break, it's been demoralizing seeing him flail since the Home Run Derby f'ed up his hand (and swing).

For fun, I put together the stats for all 8 guys who participated in the Home Run Derby. In a combined 167 at-bats over 43 games, they are:

.274, 9 2Bs, 4 HR, 22 RBI

Fielder's HR last night was the first that a guy from the AL Derby squad has hit since the Break.

I HATE HAVING ONE OF MY TEAM'S PLAYERS IN THE HOME RUN DERBY

AL

Davis: 6 for 24, 3 2b, 4 rbi

Cespedes: 2 for 6, 1 2b, 0 RBI

Fielder: 7 for 23, 1 HR, 5 RBI

Cano: 7 for 24, 1 2b, 0 HR, 5 RBI

NL

David Wright: 7 for 24, 2 HR, 4 RBI

Carlos Gonzalez: 5 for 22, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI

Cuddyer: 6 for 20, 2 2b, 1 rbi

Harper: 5 for 21, 1 2b, 0 rbi

Cargo was replaced by Pedro Alvarez in the HR derby. Although, I believe he was 0-20 (or something like that) after the all-star break but has since then hit HRs in consecutive games.

 

[TobiasFunke]

After Chris Davis hit HRs in 4 straight games leading up to the All-Star Break, it's been demoralizing seeing him flail since the Home Run Derby f'ed up his hand (and swing).

For fun, I put together the stats for all 8 guys who participated in the Home Run Derby. In a combined 167 at-bats over 43 games, they are:

.274, 9 2Bs, 4 HR, 22 RBI

Fielder's HR last night was the first that a guy from the AL Derby squad has hit since the Break.

I HATE HAVING ONE OF MY TEAM'S PLAYERS IN THE HOME RUN DERBY

AL

Davis: 6 for 24, 3 2b, 4 rbi

Cespedes: 2 for 6, 1 2b, 0 RBI

Fielder: 7 for 23, 1 HR, 5 RBI

Cano: 7 for 24, 1 2b, 0 HR, 5 RBI

NL

David Wright: 7 for 24, 2 HR, 4 RBI

Carlos Gonzalez: 5 for 22, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI

Cuddyer: 6 for 20, 2 2b, 1 rbi

Harper: 5 for 21, 1 2b, 0 rbi

It's been proven that the HR derby doesn't negatively affect the participants. Link Also Cespedes has barely played since the HR derby, and Wright has two HRs since, and as a Nats fan I unfortunately also know that Alvarez has two HRs just in the last two games.

Guys invited to the HR derby are often guys who've had first halves that are way out of the norm for them (Davis and Cuddyer being the most obvious examples here). What happens to them in the second half is just regression to the mean, not regression due to their participation in the derby. Davis's second half will inevitably dropp off because he's not Barry Bonds or Babe Ruth, not because he took an extra round of batting practice last week.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

After Chris Davis hit HRs in 4 straight games leading up to the All-Star Break, it's been demoralizing seeing him flail since the Home Run Derby f'ed up his hand (and swing).

For fun, I put together the stats for all 8 guys who participated in the Home Run Derby. In a combined 167 at-bats over 43 games, they are:

.274, 9 2Bs, 4 HR, 22 RBI

Fielder's HR last night was the first that a guy from the AL Derby squad has hit since the Break.

I HATE HAVING ONE OF MY TEAM'S PLAYERS IN THE HOME RUN DERBY

AL

Davis: 6 for 24, 3 2b, 4 rbi

Cespedes: 2 for 6, 1 2b, 0 RBI

Fielder: 7 for 23, 1 HR, 5 RBI

Cano: 7 for 24, 1 2b, 0 HR, 5 RBI

NL

David Wright: 7 for 24, 2 HR, 4 RBI

Carlos Gonzalez: 5 for 22, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI

Cuddyer: 6 for 20, 2 2b, 1 rbi

Harper: 5 for 21, 1 2b, 0 rbi

It's been proven that the HR derby doesn't negatively affect the participants. Link Also Cespedes has barely played since the HR derby, and Wright has two HRs since, and as a Nats fan I unfortunately also know that Alvarez has two HRs just in the last two games.

Guys invited to the HR derby are often guys who've had first halves that are way out of the norm for them (Davis and Cuddyer being the most obvious examples here). What happens to them in the second half is just regression to the mean, not regression due to their participation in the derby. Davis's second half will inevitably dropp off because he's not Barry Bonds or Babe Ruth, not because he took an extra round of batting practice last week.

What do you mean I thought he would hit like 95 home runs this year!! Stupid HR derby.

 

[shadyridr]

After Chris Davis hit HRs in 4 straight games leading up to the All-Star Break, it's been demoralizing seeing him flail since the Home Run Derby f'ed up his hand (and swing).

For fun, I put together the stats for all 8 guys who participated in the Home Run Derby. In a combined 167 at-bats over 43 games, they are:

.274, 9 2Bs, 4 HR, 22 RBI

Fielder's HR last night was the first that a guy from the AL Derby squad has hit since the Break.

I HATE HAVING ONE OF MY TEAM'S PLAYERS IN THE HOME RUN DERBY

AL

Davis: 6 for 24, 3 2b, 4 rbi

Cespedes: 2 for 6, 1 2b, 0 RBI

Fielder: 7 for 23, 1 HR, 5 RBI

Cano: 7 for 24, 1 2b, 0 HR, 5 RBI

NL

David Wright: 7 for 24, 2 HR, 4 RBI

Carlos Gonzalez: 5 for 22, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI

Cuddyer: 6 for 20, 2 2b, 1 rbi

Harper: 5 for 21, 1 2b, 0 rbi

It's been proven that the HR derby doesn't negatively affect the participants. Link Also Cespedes has barely played since the HR derby, and Wright has two HRs since, and as a Nats fan I unfortunately also know that Alvarez has two HRs just in the last two games.

Guys invited to the HR derby are often guys who've had first halves that are way out of the norm for them (Davis and Cuddyer being the most obvious examples here). What happens to them in the second half is just regression to the mean, not regression due to their participation in the derby. Davis's second half will inevitably dropp off because he's not Barry Bonds or Babe Ruth, not because he took an extra round of batting practice last week.

How many HR Derbys did Ruth compete in? 0! Point proven!

 

[dparker713]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Cano is going to get what he wants IMO. 200M without a problem. Several big money teams struggling this year and teams have more money than ever to do something about it. Very limited options on great players to spend it on. Besides that, it's the Yankees. They're going to at least try to win the bidding war on their own superstar I would think.

Oh, and the Dodgers still seem to be playing with monopoly money.

The Dodgers are playing some combination of Ellis, Schumaker and Punto at 2b. They'll certainly be in the bidding. In fact, I think for the first time in a long time the Yankees might not be able to bid high enough for a player they really want.

 

[Eephus]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Cano is going to get what he wants IMO. 200M without a problem. Several big money teams struggling this year and teams have more money than ever to do something about it. Very limited options on great players to spend it on. Besides that, it's the Yankees. They're going to at least try to win the bidding war on their own superstar I would think.Oh, and the Dodgers still seem to be playing with monopoly money.

The Dodgers are playing some combination of Ellis, Schumaker and Punto at 2b. They'll certainly be in the bidding. In fact, I think for the first time in a long time the Yankees might not be able to bid high enough for a player they really want.

The Dodgers just spent $32M on 26 year old Cuban SS Alexander Guerrero. The plan is to convert him to a 2B perhaps as early as this season.

 

[Michael Brown]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Cano is going to get what he wants IMO. 200M without a problem. Several big money teams struggling this year and teams have more money than ever to do something about it. Very limited options on great players to spend it on. Besides that, it's the Yankees. They're going to at least try to win the bidding war on their own superstar I would think.Oh, and the Dodgers still seem to be playing with monopoly money.

The Dodgers are playing some combination of Ellis, Schumaker and Punto at 2b. They'll certainly be in the bidding. In fact, I think for the first time in a long time the Yankees might not be able to bid high enough for a player they really want.

The Dodgers just spent $32M on 26 year old Cuban SS Alexander Guerrero. The plan is to convert him to a 2B perhaps as early as this season.

$32 million? He can be their utilityman for that

 

[cheese]

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.

Wonder how this sets the market for Cano

You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.

Cano is going to get what he wants IMO. 200M without a problem. Several big money teams struggling this year and teams have more money than ever to do something about it. Very limited options on great players to spend it on. Besides that, it's the Yankees. They're going to at least try to win the bidding war on their own superstar I would think.Oh, and the Dodgers still seem to be playing with monopoly money.

The Dodgers are playing some combination of Ellis, Schumaker and Punto at 2b. They'll certainly be in the bidding. In fact, I think for the first time in a long time the Yankees might not be able to bid high enough for a player they really want.

The Dodgers just spent $32M on 26 year old Cuban SS Alexander Guerrero. The plan is to convert him to a 2B perhaps as early as this season.

Doubt they care