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*** Official NFL Preseason Games - Observations Thread *** (1 Viewer)
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Desert_Power
Footballguy
Hit him in the hands on a throw in the endzone too. McMillian just too slow out of the break to get around.
Nice improvisation on a TD throw to Coker. Very good drive outside of Legette getting himself ejected.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Tet caught a 3rd down for a first as well. He should have had that TD and I trust he will figure that out. His route was beautiful, got himself very open.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Stevenson with a tidy 7+ YPC
Maye puts it on the ground coming off a rough practice this week. Glad it’s preseason.
Maye puts it on the ground coming off a rough practice this week. Glad it’s preseason.
zamboni
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Dude was bad fast100 yard kickoff TD for Henderson
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Hendon Hooker yuck
The Frankman
Footballguy
Shedur is going to eat this year... I mean, I get he has some attitude concerns during the pre-draft process. But people talking themselves into thinking he's a legit 5th round pick are gaslighting themselves.
Not a 1st rounder? Ok. But it's not like Cam Ward is so much better than Shedur is.
Not a 1st rounder? Ok. But it's not like Cam Ward is so much better than Shedur is.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
That new on field virtual measurement system is ****ing awful
I think its very realistic he starts the most games of any Browns QB. Especially as the Browns are likely 4+ games back by Halloween.
Just had to get his head around a split second sooner or maybe Bryce could have lofted it a bit more. The ball was like 3 yards from him by the time he turned his head. LOVE 3 targets out of Bryce’s 6 passes. He’s his dude.
Moonlight
Footballguy
Nice solidarity from both teams as they both stood at midfield and just let the clock run.
Refs then suspended the game.
rockaction
Footballguy
I know this isn’t the place but I think we will be noticing that quite a bit until he gets savvier. He’s no burner.
rockaction
Footballguy
He needed to be smacked down, but I wanted him for the Jets in the third. Teams might be kicking themselves. This isn’t hindsight—you can catch me in the draft thread saying it. He’s got big flaws but your 3rd round pick is—what?—a middling safety. Child, please.
eta* I wanted him in the second, apparently. I guess the speeding tickets and all the stories have done a number on me. I was openly hoping in the second. This was silly. Not saying he's going to be great but when you have Justin Fields as your QB, you best be doing due diligence on everybody in the country and then in Europe, The Antipodes, and Africa. Asia, too.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dan Campbell & Raheem Morris made the right call, took New York awhile to agree with them. Optimistic reports from the hospital (breathing, has movement, mom is with him.) Nobody wanted to keep playing.
Norris has been a heat seeking missile throughout TC. Hopefully he is OK but too early to know.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
agree. I think he can afford to feed himself.
I'm not heartless, I think/hope but the idea that play must stop once there's a major injury is baffling to me. I get solidarity and showing respect for your fellow player but you are also being paid thousands/millions to do a job.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
In TC? Not quite.
Annualized - $182K for veterans, $104 for rookies. Your garden variety 4-digit FBG is pulling in more than that.
Meaningless game. These guys are in rare fraternity. You’re praying for your brother man & at the same time ir is messing with your mind.
That could me. On any random play.
IMO they made the right call, but reasonable people can disagree. No worries, eh.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Update from the Lions:
"Morice Norris is in stable condition and has feeling and movement in all his extremities. He will remain at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta overnight for observation.
We would like to thank the Atlanta Falcons organization, the EMS team at Mercedes-Benz Stadium and the doctors and staff at Grady for their support."
"Morice Norris is in stable condition and has feeling and movement in all his extremities. He will remain at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta overnight for observation.
We would like to thank the Atlanta Falcons organization, the EMS team at Mercedes-Benz Stadium and the doctors and staff at Grady for their support."
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I guess you could make the argument that the 53 man is somewhat set in stone but in theory there are people playing for their jobs.
that's me, Mr. reasonable
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, how much time was left when they both agreed to walk off the field? I've been saying ever since Hamlin that they better figure this out and right quick.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
hrmmm....
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I think it's fine to take a short little break after your maybe friend and teammate get hurt and stuff but suspending play is ??? to me. I probably can't explain it very well. I used to work in a warehouse. I don't remember anyone getting seriously hurt but if they did would they have let us all go home?
rockaction
Footballguy
I get why the Bengals and Bills did it, and it deserved an, "Okay, but next time we play. . . " But they still haven't ironed that out, and that's inexcusable. The Nietzschean or military "brothers" or "warriors" or "comrades" or "ubermensch" argument doesn't cut it. People paid to see that game. Untold millions are at stake. You've signed on to do this and I don't care about rookie salaries. They've negotiated a CBA that they've had ample opportunity to consider. If you don't like rookie salary scales, get mad at the judges in the field of labor law who have ruled that entrants to labor markets have no rights at the collective bargaining table.
But there's no excuse for leaving the field. It's just a player gripe and grievance and I'm usually on their side as humans and don't care for the NFL brass, but the NFL needs to put its foot down on this and release it in other places. They'll enforce the dumbest **** but can't figure out how to either compensate or compel players to stay on the field when fans who (let's face it) often can't afford it or scrimp to make it their main expense are counting on it in myriad ways. And it's not that the players make so much money that they're out of touch; it's that they ought exercise their "solidarity" with their "brothers" in other ways than walking off the field after an injury. You're unhappy with your general position vis a vis the league? Settle it with better bargaining. Your union is lying and stealing from you. Pay attention. Keep your "brothers" in line and go on strike and don't cross the picket line. Stop spending so much money to where five weeks off is too much.
You save up and spend five weeks in solidarity, the public will freak out and the NFL will cave like they did with the refs. This isn't 1987 (or whenever it was) anymore.
Moonlight
Footballguy
You want Goodell to become even more unpopular? I hear what you are saying though.
One thought would be to have a break similar to a half time intermission. Pull both teams off the field. Let them emotionally regroup in their locker room and resume the game from the point of stoppage.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm more than amenable to agree with stuff like this. If you need an emergency make-up date because there's a massive problem and human beings are shaken, then you have a make-up date. But they haven't addressed it because the owners are pretty spineless about this and the players feel strongly about it. Okay, get together and hammer it out. It's called compromise and nobody is ever happy with it. Two make-up dates if need be.
Look, no fan wants to look their favorite player in the eye and start speaking in German and tell them to go back to the front when that guy is about to cry because his best friend is dead. But you need contingency dates and the records need to be cleaned and the gambling money (that the league is now indebted to) has to be accounted for and settled; never mind the more innocent fantasy football tourneys where millions of dollars are at stake for the entrants. I mean, you had FBG saying the only option was to not count the stats for that Buff/Cinci game. It went down as a no-game (or a tie) and totally messed up the NFL also.
So you probably had (TK) millions on the line that just disappeared that game. That should have woken them up.
But I get worked up because you know who this really hurts, and we saw it with Cinci/Buffalo. It hurts the fans in the end. The ones who follow it and are the source of all the revenue the NFL realizes. That there is a sort of "screw you" to the people who provide every freaking cent of the league's coffers is unconscionable and angering and that both the NFL and the players forget that is crazy and indecent.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Point of Information
The injury occurred with 14:50. It took about 20 minutes before the ambulance departed. Atlanta snapped the ball and neither side made any movement. The 22 players on the field came together to pray. The clock was running the whole time.
At 6:31 the head referee announced the game was suspended per New York. The clock was stopped at 6:19 so that’s what was recorded in the box score & recaps.
Right before Sanders went in the 5th, Miami picked DT Jordan Phillips (the 20 yr old edition, not the 32 yr old DT they drafted in 2015 who's still in the league!). He's a run stopping NT, doing well in camp so probably a rotational piece. GM Grier said they considered Sanders in the 5th. Many fans wanted Sanders. If Sanders balls in the regular season, lots of GMs will be making excuses. Personally, I thought he would be a competent backup to Tua who's tied to MIA until 2026.
An aside: Grier drafted Ewers in the 7th, a value pick. He's slightly out performing Zach, who has the occasional wow play, but may be just now learning to throw to spots. I'm sure it's no surprise to you.
rockaction
Footballguy
Having Zach as your backup has been one of those things that scream of GM malpractice and is friable offense once Tua gets hurt and your season craters (it’s at about 80% probability that it will). Ewers might be serviceable. That would be a saving grace.
Great idea for a thread.
One suggestion, please use the players first and last name as that will help with clarity.
One suggestion, please use the players first and last name as that will help with clarity.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
The weird thing is that he might be better than their backups last year. Their offense was a complete failure when Tua was injured. Like Kotite-era-Jets-level incompetent.
We can see more of Zach tomorrow at 1pm @ CHI. I'm interested in seeing Ewers, and other rookies. Will Ewers be the next Brock Purdy? Unlikely, based on odds, but his quick release and deep ball accuracy could be a good fit in Miami. Both Ewers & Sanders should've been drafted higher.
Beat writer Barry Jackson when Miami signed Wilson:
>> Last spring, ESPN’s Rich Cimini authored an interesting reflection on the Wilson era in New York and a couple points stand out, details that can make anyone wonder why Miami not only targeted him at the start of free agency but also gave him the second-richest contract that it awarded any free agent ($6 million guaranteed, with $4 million more in incentives):
“It’s hard to come up with many positives on Wilson. Since entering the league, he has ranked 29th out of 29 quarterbacks in EPA/play (minimum: 1,000 dropbacks). Since 2000, he’s 121st out of 122 quarterbacks in the same category, fractionally ahead of Blaine Gabbert.<<
Grier had another QB malpractice moment a few years ago with former NFL QB Josh Rosen, giving up a 2nd round pick after viewing 14 games of awful QB play for ARI.
rockaction
Footballguy
You’re right about both assertions. I’m just crying about Kotite. Ugh.
rockaction
Footballguy
That was dumbfounding. And everybody in the league learned from that. Tough to be setting standards in that way. But then again, I’d advocate for more QBs taken, so perhaps that would be inconsistent of me to lambast that which I advocate.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
BREAKING NEWS: After Shedeur Sanders performance in last nights preseason game, the Cleveland Browns have announced plans to retire Sanders #12 and put him in their Ring of Honor.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
To clarify, he beat the coverage and had clear separation. Just was half a second getting his head around, which he acknowledged to Bryce. My impression was pretty positive.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Bills Taron Johnson may have a stinger... Getting up slow after hitting Greg Dulcich behind the line on a tackle.
Not a big fan of the NFL Network split screening the start of Texans/Vikings with the last 2 minutes of Bills/Dolphins and switching between audio. No one cares about the 4th string practice squads, I want to be able to watch the first stringers in the next game since they may only play a short time.
Edit: Ok, finally they dropped coverage of the Bills/Dolphins after the first few plays.
Edit: Ok, finally they dropped coverage of the Bills/Dolphins after the first few plays.
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