***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (9 Viewers)

[RBM]

I actually think the Bryan/Reigns feud is pretty compelling. Both have a chip on their shoulder and they're going to fight like hell to prove they belong in the main event at WrestleMania. It's certainly the one match I want to see at Fastlane.

According to some of the "insiders", Vince McMahon has cooled on Reigns vs Lesnar at WM after the reaction in Philly and it's now expected to be another triple threat for the title. I'm guessing at fastlane both Bryan and Reigns will battle each other until they're so exhausted that neither can answer the 10 count and it'll be a draw sending them both into the title match. This would set up some premium #####ing potential for Heyman too as his client has to defend against 2 opponents for the 2nd time in a row. Because no one man can defeat BROOOOCK LESSSSSNER.

Please not another 3 way forced on us because of annoying smarks.

The issue last year was that orton and Batista sucked. Lesnar is hugely over so I agree a three way is a mistake

Wooo wooo...that match sucked or they suck individually? Because Orton is 20x better than Bryan.

 

[OC Zed]

I actually think the Bryan/Reigns feud is pretty compelling. Both have a chip on their shoulder and they're going to fight like hell to prove they belong in the main event at WrestleMania. It's certainly the one match I want to see at Fastlane.

According to some of the "insiders", Vince McMahon has cooled on Reigns vs Lesnar at WM after the reaction in Philly and it's now expected to be another triple threat for the title. I'm guessing at fastlane both Bryan and Reigns will battle each other until they're so exhausted that neither can answer the 10 count and it'll be a draw sending them both into the title match. This would set up some premium #####ing potential for Heyman too as his client has to defend against 2 opponents for the 2nd time in a row. Because no one man can defeat BROOOOCK LESSSSSNER.

Please not another 3 way forced on us because of annoying smarks.

I don't like it... but it would be better than Reigns vs. Lesnar straight up.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I actually think the Bryan/Reigns feud is pretty compelling. Both have a chip on their shoulder and they're going to fight like hell to prove they belong in the main event at WrestleMania. It's certainly the one match I want to see at Fastlane.

According to some of the "insiders", Vince McMahon has cooled on Reigns vs Lesnar at WM after the reaction in Philly and it's now expected to be another triple threat for the title. I'm guessing at fastlane both Bryan and Reigns will battle each other until they're so exhausted that neither can answer the 10 count and it'll be a draw sending them both into the title match. This would set up some premium #####ing potential for Heyman too as his client has to defend against 2 opponents for the 2nd time in a row. Because no one man can defeat BROOOOCK LESSSSSNER.

Please not another 3 way forced on us because of annoying smarks.

The issue last year was that orton and Batista sucked. Lesnar is hugely over so I agree a three way is a mistake

Wooo wooo...that match sucked or they suck individually? Because Orton is 20x better than Bryan.

Orton has a renaissance and will be over for being absent upon his return but he was staler than stale last year

 

[OC Zed]

Was hoping for Goldust and Cody at Mania in a retirement type match I suppose it can still happen as goldust reportedly retiring after mania

That's too bad... physically, he has a lot left in the tank despite his age. He needs a better angle to work with at this point in his career though.

 

[OC Zed]

I actually think the Bryan/Reigns feud is pretty compelling. Both have a chip on their shoulder and they're going to fight like hell to prove they belong in the main event at WrestleMania. It's certainly the one match I want to see at Fastlane.

According to some of the "insiders", Vince McMahon has cooled on Reigns vs Lesnar at WM after the reaction in Philly and it's now expected to be another triple threat for the title. I'm guessing at fastlane both Bryan and Reigns will battle each other until they're so exhausted that neither can answer the 10 count and it'll be a draw sending them both into the title match. This would set up some premium #####ing potential for Heyman too as his client has to defend against 2 opponents for the 2nd time in a row. Because no one man can defeat BROOOOCK LESSSSSNER.

Please not another 3 way forced on us because of annoying smarks.

The issue last year was that orton and Batista sucked. Lesnar is hugely over so I agree a three way is a mistake

Wooo wooo...that match sucked or they suck individually? Because Orton is 20x better than Bryan.

Orton has a renaissance and will be over for being absent upon his return but he was staler than stale last year

This is correct.

By the way, who does Orton get paired with at WM? Rollins?

 

[RBM]

Hope Cody ditches the stupid Stardust garbage. Very talented and still young.

 

[OC Zed]

Hope Cody ditches the stupid Stardust garbage. Very talented and still young.

The guys on the Cheap Heat podcast made a good point about Cody... "Cody" is just a bad name for a top guy. It sounds like a kid that should be given a noogie.

 

[RBM]

Hope Cody ditches the stupid Stardust garbage. Very talented and still young.

The guys on the Cheap Heat podcast made a good point about Cody... "Cody" is just a bad name for a top guy. It sounds like a kid that should be given a noogie.

Lol not a bad point.

Cody and Axel = New Legacy

 

[Brady Marino]

The new NXT is on-demand for those of you who can't wait the 12 minutes for it to start.

I couldn't wait. These tapings were AWESOME.

 

[RBM]

OMG Neville-Owens was awesome. Neville is just ridiculous.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

This is amazing

http://youtu.be/dsIkd_apfGU

Green as turtle ####!

I'd hate for this video to get overlooked. OMG that's awesome.

Yes it was..."Master Troll"...

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Really isn't the best sign in the world they cant find something for Orton. Or they realize how stale he was (which I doubt they realized)

On the brightside, judging by the promos looks like Sheamus will return heel.

 

[OC Zed]

Really isn't the best sign in the world they cant find something for Orton. Or they realize how stale he was (which I doubt they realized)

On the brightside, judging by the promos looks like Sheamus will return heel.

Orton can be a great worker, but he needs a foil... someone that can carry the storyline. Rollins fits the bill... weren't they feuding before he left? I can't remember how that ended (Orton was curb stomped?). I guess they can pick up where they left off. Could be a fantastic match.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Yeah I believe that's how Orton was written off TV.

Was going back and watching Orton matches from the early/mid 2000's and it's a stark difference how much energy he had then (and how much better it came off on TV/PPV)

 

[RBM]

Yeah Authority kayfabe knocked him out. He was getting huge face pops those last two weeks though.

The guy can just about do no wrong in my book. Never has a bad match, works the crowd perfectly, awesome finisher. Id love to see him work with Wyatt sometime soon.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Yeah Authority kayfabe knocked him out. He was getting huge face pops those last two weeks though.

The guy can just about do no wrong in my book. Never has a bad match, works the crowd perfectly, awesome finisher. Id love to see him work with Wyatt sometime soon.

I'd love to see him do a run-in at Mania... just hold him off... it will blow the roof off the place in a way a match he had never could.. a true wrestlemania moment

 

[HellToupee]

"Ziggler?Gently dumped like a true jobber"

 

[Tom Servo]

Nice job on last night's Lucha Underground. I like the slow build with the Asian chick walking the halls looking for somebody, and apparently finding him/her last night.

Chavo Guerrero "quitting"? He's one of the executive producers. I imagine he's going off camera for now.

Alberto got some revenge on Tejano last night; hopefully this is building to a match in a little bit.

Really didn't like the end of The Crew's match against Sexy Star, the dwarf and the transgendered guy.

Spoiler

After curb stomping the midget and the transgendered guy, leaving Sexy Star, they get distracted by Big Ryck. OK, understandable. I could see them getting counted out, but one of them getting pinned? This is after you've set them up as Cueto's gang and willing to do his dirty work for him, and then you job them out to a chick?? C'mon, man!

 

[OC Zed]

Yeah Authority kayfabe knocked him out. He was getting huge face pops those last two weeks though.

The guy can just about do no wrong in my book. Never has a bad match, works the crowd perfectly, awesome finisher. Id love to see him work with Wyatt sometime soon.

I'd love to see him do a run-in at Mania... just hold him off... it will blow the roof off the place in a way a match he had never could.. a true wrestlemania moment

Not a bad idea, but isn't he already doing house shows (or will be before WM)?

 

[OC Zed]

I watched this week's NXT episode last night. It was the first time I've watched NXT when it wasn't one of their big events. The show reaffirmed why going back to the enhancement match formula is a bad idea... There was absolutely no drama during any of those matches. It was tedious sitting through an hour of it - I can't imagine what it would be like suffering through a 3-hour Raw like that.

I will say Neville-Owens worked a fantastic match... Maybe better than anything from last week's show. It does lose some points though for the end being so predictable.

 

[travdogg]

I actually think the Bryan/Reigns feud is pretty compelling. Both have a chip on their shoulder and they're going to fight like hell to prove they belong in the main event at WrestleMania. It's certainly the one match I want to see at Fastlane.

According to some of the "insiders", Vince McMahon has cooled on Reigns vs Lesnar at WM after the reaction in Philly and it's now expected to be another triple threat for the title. I'm guessing at fastlane both Bryan and Reigns will battle each other until they're so exhausted that neither can answer the 10 count and it'll be a draw sending them both into the title match. This would set up some premium #####ing potential for Heyman too as his client has to defend against 2 opponents for the 2nd time in a row. Because no one man can defeat BROOOOCK LESSSSSNER.

Please not another 3 way forced on us because of annoying smarks.

The issue last year was that orton and Batista sucked. Lesnar is hugely over so I agree a three way is a mistake

Wooo wooo...that match sucked or they suck individually? Because Orton is 20x better than Bryan.

I agree another triple threat would be a disappointment. Just have Reigns lose to Bryan. Bryan-Lesnar was supposed to be the plan all along before Bryan got hurt anyway, and it could be an amazing match. I don't get the whole Bryan is too small to be believable against Lesnar stuff at all. Was Michaels too small against the Undertaker? Was Bret Hart too small against Diesel?

Anyone being 20x better than Bryan is laughable. Other than maybe CM Punk, Bryan has been the best guy in the company for 2-3 years running now.

Yeah Authority kayfabe knocked him out. He was getting huge face pops those last two weeks though.

The guy can just about do no wrong in my book. Never has a bad match, works the crowd perfectly, awesome finisher. Id love to see him work with Wyatt sometime soon.

I half agree on Orton. When he is motivated, he is awesome. However, he was pretty awful from late-2011 to mid-2013. Just had lousy matches all the time, and basically looked like he'd rather be doing anything else. I can't help but think that was because he was a face at the time, because as soon as he turned heel and won money in the bank, he became extremely great again.

I hope Orton and Sheamus come back as heels, just so we can get Big Show and Kane out of the main event scene.

 

[Jeremy]

I watched this week's NXT episode last night. It was the first time I've watched NXT when it wasn't one of their big events. The show reaffirmed why going back to the enhancement match formula is a bad idea... There was absolutely no drama during any of those matches. It was tedious sitting through an hour of it - I can't imagine what it would be like suffering through a 3-hour Raw like that.

I will say Neville-Owens worked a fantastic match... Maybe better than anything from last week's show. It does lose some points though for the end being so predictable.

Yeah, people love all things NXT, but I think if we're being honest most of that show was really boring. The main event was excellent, but that's it. Blue Pants? C'mon now.

I don't pine for the return to squash matches either. Yeah, it made the PPVs bigger events, but sitting through 1 3/4 hrs of squash matches just to see the Big Boss Man vs KoKo B Ware on Prime Time mostly sucked. The best part of that was Monsoon and Heenan going at it.

 

[Brady Marino]

I watched this week's NXT episode last night. It was the first time I've watched NXT when it wasn't one of their big events. The show reaffirmed why going back to the enhancement match formula is a bad idea... There was absolutely no drama during any of those matches. It was tedious sitting through an hour of it - I can't imagine what it would be like suffering through a 3-hour Raw like that.

I will say Neville-Owens worked a fantastic match... Maybe better than anything from last week's show. It does lose some points though for the end being so predictable.

Yeah, people love all things NXT, but I think if we're being honest most of that show was really boring. The main event was excellent, but that's it. Blue Pants? C'mon now.

I don't pine for the return to squash matches either. Yeah, it made the PPVs bigger events, but sitting through 1 3/4 hrs of squash matches just to see the Big Boss Man vs KoKo B Ware on Prime Time mostly sucked. The best part of that was Monsoon and Heenan going at it.

I like the wrestlers, I like the angles, but you both are right in that squash matches really stink and it's a too predictable trope that sets up for disappointment later on. Look at what happened to Tensai...he's now commentating NXT!

 

[Jeremy]

I watched this week's NXT episode last night. It was the first time I've watched NXT when it wasn't one of their big events. The show reaffirmed why going back to the enhancement match formula is a bad idea... There was absolutely no drama during any of those matches. It was tedious sitting through an hour of it - I can't imagine what it would be like suffering through a 3-hour Raw like that.

I will say Neville-Owens worked a fantastic match... Maybe better than anything from last week's show. It does lose some points though for the end being so predictable.

Yeah, people love all things NXT, but I think if we're being honest most of that show was really boring. The main event was excellent, but that's it. Blue Pants? C'mon now.

I don't pine for the return to squash matches either. Yeah, it made the PPVs bigger events, but sitting through 1 3/4 hrs of squash matches just to see the Big Boss Man vs KoKo B Ware on Prime Time mostly sucked. The best part of that was Monsoon and Heenan going at it.

I like the wrestlers, I like the angles, but you both are right in that squash matches really stink and it's a too predictable trope that sets up for disappointment later on. Look at what happened to Tensai...he's now commentating NXT!

Yeah, I enjoy NXT a lot. But some of the performers obviously have a long ways to go and not every show can be amazing. I think that show was kind of the anti-climax from last week's big show. Now they've got to build up their new champions and start some new storylines.

I think the next 3 shows have already been taped, but I haven't read the spoilers. Sounds like they're pretty good, though.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

More Samoa Joe news:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0218/589573/rumor-on-triple-h-being-interested-in-giving-samoa-joe-a-wwe/#.VOYzbYNyq5I.facebook

 

[travdogg]

I watched this week's NXT episode last night. It was the first time I've watched NXT when it wasn't one of their big events. The show reaffirmed why going back to the enhancement match formula is a bad idea... There was absolutely no drama during any of those matches. It was tedious sitting through an hour of it - I can't imagine what it would be like suffering through a 3-hour Raw like that.

I will say Neville-Owens worked a fantastic match... Maybe better than anything from last week's show. It does lose some points though for the end being so predictable.

Yeah, people love all things NXT, but I think if we're being honest most of that show was really boring. The main event was excellent, but that's it. Blue Pants? C'mon now.

I don't pine for the return to squash matches either. Yeah, it made the PPVs bigger events, but sitting through 1 3/4 hrs of squash matches just to see the Big Boss Man vs KoKo B Ware on Prime Time mostly sucked. The best part of that was Monsoon and Heenan going at it.

Come on, Blue Pants is awesome! Sadly. her having blue pants and fake Price Is Right music, is actually more of a character than a lot of the women on the main roster.

I'm not a fan of squash matches either, but if they have to happen, I prefer how NXT does them as opposed to how Raw does them. Some nobody getting beat by somebody of note in 2 minutes, is a lot better than say, Jey Uso beating Tyson Kidd in 3 minutes. If they are going to have that short of a match, it may as well be against somebody we may never see again.

 

[SlaX]

Decided to reupp my network subscription to prepare for Mania. Yeah, I guess it was a few weeks late to get the rest of Feb free, but I don't care. I forgot how much I miss having some old school stuff on in the background while doing other things.

 

[1234]

AJ Styles...Alberto El Patron...Ricochet...Adam Cole...and now Samoa Joe. Other than they all remind me of The Dynamite Kid, I'm really looking forward to the indie scene this year.

 

[Brady Marino]

AJ Styles...Alberto El Patron...Ricochet...Adam Cole...and now Samoa Joe. Other than they all remind me of The Dynamite Kid, I'm really looking forward to the indie scene this year.

And they're all Irish. In fact, I'm pretty sure Alberto and Joe have ties to the IRA.

 

[NewlyRetired]

If memory serves, my very first wrestling match as a kid was watching an Ivan Putski and Tito Santana tag team match.

Garea and Martel

The Wild Somoans

Fuji and Siato

Windham and Rotunda

The Von Erichs

The Freebirds

The Midnight Express

Tully and Arn

The Rock and Roll Express

Dusty and Magnum

The Road Warriors

The Midnight Rockers

Ivan and Nakita

The Steiner's

Dusty and Nakita

The British Bulldogs

The New Age Outlaws

The Hardy's

The Dudley's

Edge and Christian

and so many many others over the years

I openly weap having to watch New Day and The Ascension now. I think we have hit rock bottom :(

 

[RBM]

Love tag wrestling as well. It's such an easy fix too with the depth of talent on the roster.

My first memories are of Windham and Rotundo beating Adonis and Murdoch for the tag straps.

 

[travdogg]

If memory serves, my very first wrestling match as a kid was watching an Ivan Putski and Tito Santana tag team match.

Garea and Martel

The Wild Somoans

Fuji and Siato

Windham and Rotunda

The Von Erichs

The Freebirds

The Midnight Express

Tully and Arn

The Rock and Roll Express

Dusty and Magnum

The Road Warriors

The Midnight Rockers

Ivan and Nakita

The Steiner's

Dusty and Nakita

The British Bulldogs

The New Age Outlaws

The Hardy's

The Dudley's

Edge and Christian

and so many many others over the years

I openly weap having to watch New Day and The Ascension now. I think we have hit rock bottom :(

Tag team wrestling has been greatly de-emphasized, but I don't really blame the performers there as much as the booking.

The Ascension could be every bit as good as a team like Demolition was, but are treated like jokes, so they are viewed that way. New Day(preferably Big E and Kofi) could be great, but are given nothing to do, which baffles me, because Kofi is/was very popular(especially with kids) and Big E was a can't miss prospect, who somehow has missed.

Currently, I think the Usos are the biggest problem with the tag division. Mediocre matches, and no character, and the same move sets is a recipe for boredom. Kidd-Cesaro could be amazing as tag champs if they commit to them. But really tag team wrestling has been stagnant ever since The Shield broke up, and predictably hasn't been a focus since.

 

[RBM]

Two teams that were way over and never got a run with the straps for God knows what reason... The Real Americans and Harper/Rowan. Prime Time Players weren't terrible but they break them up for no reason with no plans for either guy.

They could easily have 8-10 good teams if they wanted to.

Look at some of those earlier Wrestlemanias... There were always like 3-4 tag matches. The title match plus just other tag teams looking for a big win in a big spot.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Tag wrestling has been dead since the Hardys/E&C/Dudleys. TNA had the opportunity to have a very good tag division a handful years ago and even they ignored it.

I've said it previously but the Usos put me to sleep as much as any team ever. These jokers have no character & aren't good workers. Never watched the show, but these jokers are really that over on Total Divas to put them at the top of the tag division? I find them less interesting than even The Ascension.

I like watching Kidd/Cesaro, but they won't stick around long enough to mean anything. Too bad they won't turn New Day heel. Such a ####ty gimmick.

 

[OC Zed]

If memory serves, my very first wrestling match as a kid was watching an Ivan Putski and Tito Santana tag team match.

Garea and Martel

The Wild Somoans

Fuji and Siato

Windham and Rotunda

The Von Erichs

The Freebirds

The Midnight Express

Tully and Arn

The Rock and Roll Express

Dusty and Magnum

The Road Warriors

The Midnight Rockers

Ivan and Nakita

The Steiner's

Dusty and Nakita

The British Bulldogs

The New Age Outlaws

The Hardy's

The Dudley's

Edge and Christian

and so many many others over the years

I openly weap having to watch New Day and The Ascension now. I think we have hit rock bottom :(

I like the New Day... Big E and Kofi are a really good contrast in styles. (I really don't know the third guy at all.)

Who knows with the Ascension. They royally screwed up that introduction.

 

[Smack Tripper]

And I think tag team matches are far and away your best heat opportunities of the night, but they would have to start calling this like a competition again. But when the heel in the ring has the refs back to the corner and the heel on the apron kills the guy, you can't go wrong. Kids will still scream for the ref to turn around. And then the hot tag pop

I heard it was as simple as vince didn't want to pay four guys to work a match that two could do.

 

[OC Zed]

If memory serves, my very first wrestling match as a kid was watching an Ivan Putski and Tito Santana tag team match.

Garea and Martel

The Wild Somoans

Fuji and Siato

Windham and Rotunda

The Von Erichs

The Freebirds

The Midnight Express

Tully and Arn

The Rock and Roll Express

Dusty and Magnum

The Road Warriors

The Midnight Rockers

Ivan and Nakita

The Steiner's

Dusty and Nakita

The British Bulldogs

The New Age Outlaws

The Hardy's

The Dudley's

Edge and Christian

and so many many others over the years

I openly weap having to watch New Day and The Ascension now. I think we have hit rock bottom :(

Tag team wrestling has been greatly de-emphasized, but I don't really blame the performers there as much as the booking.

The Ascension could be every bit as good as a team like Demolition was, but are treated like jokes, so they are viewed that way. New Day(preferably Big E and Kofi) could be great, but are given nothing to do, which baffles me, because Kofi is/was very popular(especially with kids) and Big E was a can't miss prospect, who somehow has missed.

Currently, I think the Usos are the biggest problem with the tag division. Mediocre matches, and no character, and the same move sets is a recipe for boredom. Kidd-Cesaro could be amazing as tag champs if they commit to them. But really tag team wrestling has been stagnant ever since The Shield broke up, and predictably hasn't been a focus since.

I'm also a big fan of the Usos... high energy and charisma to every match. I've never seen them dog it once.

 

[OC Zed]

Two teams that were way over and never got a run with the straps for God knows what reason... The Real Americans and Harper/Rowan. Prime Time Players weren't terrible but they break them up for no reason with no plans for either guy.

They could easily have 8-10 good teams if they wanted to.

Look at some of those earlier Wrestlemanias... There were always like 3-4 tag matches. The title match plus just other tag teams looking for a big win in a big spot.

Harper/Rowan was such a missed opportunity. The sum was much greater than the parts there.

 

[OC Zed]

And I think tag team matches are far and away your best heat opportunities of the night, but they would have to start calling this like a competition again. But when the heel in the ring has the refs back to the corner and the heel on the apron kills the guy, you can't go wrong. Kids will still scream for the ref to turn around. And then the hot tag pop

I heard it was as simple as vince didn't want to pay four guys to work a match that two could do.

This is the reason and it's such incredibly bad logic. He already has these guys under contract getting paid, so why not put them to use? A tag match gets more guys more exposure all at the same time. You get more bang for your buck in a tag match when the guys are already locked in with deals... not less.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

World's Greatest Tag Team....FTW.

 

[RBM]

If memory serves, my very first wrestling match as a kid was watching an Ivan Putski and Tito Santana tag team match.

Garea and Martel

The Wild Somoans

Fuji and Siato

Windham and Rotunda

The Von Erichs

The Freebirds

The Midnight Express

Tully and Arn

The Rock and Roll Express

Dusty and Magnum

The Road Warriors

The Midnight Rockers

Ivan and Nakita

The Steiner's

Dusty and Nakita

The British Bulldogs

The New Age Outlaws

The Hardy's

The Dudley's

Edge and Christian

and so many many others over the years

I openly weap having to watch New Day and The Ascension now. I think we have hit rock bottom :(

Tag team wrestling has been greatly de-emphasized, but I don't really blame the performers there as much as the booking. The Ascension could be every bit as good as a team like Demolition was, but are treated like jokes, so they are viewed that way. New Day(preferably Big E and Kofi) could be great, but are given nothing to do, which baffles me, because Kofi is/was very popular(especially with kids) and Big E was a can't miss prospect, who somehow has missed.

Currently, I think the Usos are the biggest problem with the tag division. Mediocre matches, and no character, and the same move sets is a recipe for boredom. Kidd-Cesaro could be amazing as tag champs if they commit to them. But really tag team wrestling has been stagnant ever since The Shield broke up, and predictably hasn't been a focus since.

I'm also a big fan of the Usos... high energy and charisma to every match. I've never seen them dog it once.

I like the Usos too.

And forget stupid gimmicks, I could watch Kidd/Cesaro vs Kofi/Big E every night. That's 4 really good workers, and a perfect match.

I think the Luchas Dragons have nice potential.

 

[OC Zed]

If memory serves, my very first wrestling match as a kid was watching an Ivan Putski and Tito Santana tag team match.

Garea and Martel

The Wild Somoans

Fuji and Siato

Windham and Rotunda

The Von Erichs

The Freebirds

The Midnight Express

Tully and Arn

The Rock and Roll Express

Dusty and Magnum

The Road Warriors

The Midnight Rockers

Ivan and Nakita

The Steiner's

Dusty and Nakita

The British Bulldogs

The New Age Outlaws

The Hardy's

The Dudley's

Edge and Christian

and so many many others over the years

I openly weap having to watch New Day and The Ascension now. I think we have hit rock bottom :(

Tag team wrestling has been greatly de-emphasized, but I don't really blame the performers there as much as the booking. The Ascension could be every bit as good as a team like Demolition was, but are treated like jokes, so they are viewed that way. New Day(preferably Big E and Kofi) could be great, but are given nothing to do, which baffles me, because Kofi is/was very popular(especially with kids) and Big E was a can't miss prospect, who somehow has missed.

Currently, I think the Usos are the biggest problem with the tag division. Mediocre matches, and no character, and the same move sets is a recipe for boredom. Kidd-Cesaro could be amazing as tag champs if they commit to them. But really tag team wrestling has been stagnant ever since The Shield broke up, and predictably hasn't been a focus since.

I'm also a big fan of the Usos... high energy and charisma to every match. I've never seen them dog it once.

I like the Usos too.

And forget stupid gimmicks, I could watch Kidd/Cesaro vs Kofi/Big E every night. That's 4 really good workers, and a perfect match.

I think the Luchas Dragons have nice potential.

I'm also a fan of the Vaudevillians. Their shtick is very thick, but I think it could have some staying power.

 

[GoFishTN]

Supposedly NXT is mostly ran by Triple H, so I would expect to see more tag teams when he takes over.

 

[Brady Marino]

I think the Luchas Dragons have nice potential.

Kalisto (the former Samauray Del Sol on the indies) is wicked talented. He could be the new Rey if all goes well.

Sin Cara (the former Hunico) gives little f*cks anymore and he can kindly leave.

 

[travdogg]

I think the Luchas Dragons have nice potential.

Kalisto (the former Samauray Del Sol on the indies) is wicked talented. He could be the new Rey if all goes well.

Sin Cara (the former Hunico) gives little f*cks anymore and he can kindly leave.

Agree 100% on both. Sin Cara is basically useless, and worthless at this point. They should have retired the character when Mistico left.

The Vaudevillains are an outstanding gimmick, maybe my favorite in the company.Those vignettes making fun of the Lucha Dragons were amazing, and would probably play well even with a Raw audience. English was a pretty good heel in his singles run, when he was singing his way to the ring, and William Regal was throwing roses at him and just saying, "Bravo!" over and and over.

Not sure what to make out of Blake and Murphy yet. I don't think they know either.

Enzo and Cass are basically New Age Outlaws 2.0. Can't imagine they don't make it to the main roster.

 

[1234]

Enzo and Cass are basically New Age Outlaws 2.0. Can't imagine they don't make it to the main roster.

Enzo and Big Cass are going to be merch movers.

S A W F T is going to be heard in a large stadium one day.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Two teams that were way over and never got a run with the straps for God knows what reason... The Real Americans and Harper/Rowan. Prime Time Players weren't terrible but they break them up for no reason with no plans for either guy.

They could easily have 8-10 good teams if they wanted to.

Look at some of those earlier Wrestlemanias... There were always like 3-4 tag matches. The title match plus just other tag teams looking for a big win in a big spot.

Harper/Rowan was such a missed opportunity. The sum was much greater than the parts there.

Agreed, I loved those two in the wyatt family. (Bray annoys me) I got excited in the Rumble when it looked like they were going to team up and go after Bray, but that didn't last but for a few seconds.

I don't mind Harper by himself but they seem lost with what to do with Rowan. First they have him walking around like he's "mentally challenged" and then all the sudden he's a misunderstood genius. Maybe the last minute swap with Sheamus forced him in to a situation that wasn't perfect but it just doesn't work.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

They've killed Rowan. Maybe they can put him behind a mask or something.

Or just put him and Harper back together. Shame they broke them apart. I think Harper can be fine alone but IMO he's already getting lost in the shuffle.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Maybe the last minute swap with Sheamus forced him in to a situation that wasn't perfect but it just doesn't work.

I agree, that seemed to be the fulcrum point for his character.

If it wasn't for his horrible music playing, you could probably hear crickets chirping when he coms out. He gets one of the lowest crowd reactions of any WWE wrestler who is on tv a lot.

Having BOTH adults and kids not reacting is pretty much bottom of the barrel for a character.

 

[travdogg]

They've killed Rowan. Maybe they can put him behind a mask or something.

Or just put him and Harper back together. Shame they broke them apart. I think Harper can be fine alone but IMO he's already getting lost in the shuffle.

Was there really ever that much potential for Rowan though? I always thought he was basically maxed out as a henchmen, he isn't really good in the ring or on the mic.

Harper on the other hand is outstanding in the ring, and I thought his IC title win was going to be the start of something. Why he isn't in either Kane or Big Show's spot, I have no idea, he's a lot better than either of them.