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I agree, it won't be Reigns. His moment needs to come against a top heel, or maybe a John Cena. Maybe Wyatt wins it. He's been front and center lately.

Speaking of Del Rio, I'm a little confused about him. Zeb insults the audience a little, but otherwise talks about unity. Del Rio himself hasn't done anything to make me want to boo him. He's going against the good guys, so I guess he's a heel?

Also, I don't like his new finisher. Seems silly that the opponent is going to grab the ropes for him like that.

 
That thought crossed my mind too but they dont have the balls. Id like to see KO take it (good heat with Reigns lately too) but they'll be safe amd boring.

Dark horse - Daniel Bryan - heard rumors he was cleared for some time now.

 
KiddLattimer said:
That thought crossed my mind too but they dont have the balls. Id like to see KO take it (good heat with Reigns lately too) but they'll be safe amd boring.

Dark horse - Daniel Bryan - heard rumors he was cleared for some time now.
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Yeah, they're not going to put the world title on a guy most of the "WWE Universe" doesn't know. I guess they did it with Paige and the Diva's title, but the Diva's title isn't as big of a deal. Daniel Bryan is a possibility, but I've heard they're afraid of allowing him to wrestle again.

 
Reigns in the final and become the Corporate Champ. The most interesting far & away IMO and he needs to turn. I'm sure they'll tie in after the fact Rock did the same 17 years ago at Survivor Series in a tourney final to win his first WWE World Title as well. Start of program with Ambrose.

 
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Craig_MiamiFL said:
Reigns in the final and become the Corporate Champ. The most interesting far & away IMO and he needs to turn. I'm sure they'll tie in after the fact Rock did the same 17 years ago at Survivor Series in a tourney final to win his first WWE World Title as well. Start of program with Ambrose.
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As long as he doesn't become the Corporate Chump (ala Rollins), then I'm all for this.

 
Wow lots of possibilities here. First off though, terrible about Seth. Such a shame to have to give up this run.

So they can go Reigns being the new "corporate" champ. Heel turn long overdue. Authority picks their new guy since Seth let them down. Rollins returns to a pop similar to the famous Triple H pop when he came back from his big injury. Sets up a great rivalry. Even better if he returns to save Ambrose from a corporate beat down.

Or you just go Wyatt and double down on this family being unstoppable.

Shameus has to lose his cash in no? I have to think they're regretting giving him the briefcase as he is now basically just a tag team guy.

 
RBM said:
Wow lots of possibilities here.
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Honestly I'm way more excited to find out what they'll do now than I was about Rollins/Reigns. They have a big opportunity to do something fresh and exciting so they'll play it ultra safe and boring instead.

 
RBM said:
Wow lots of possibilities here. First off though, terrible about Seth. Such a shame to have to give up this run.

So they can go Reigns being the new "corporate" champ. Heel turn long overdue. Authority picks their new guy since Seth let them down. Rollins returns to a pop similar to the famous Triple H pop when he came back from his big injury. Sets up a great rivalry. Even better if he returns to save Ambrose from a corporate beat down.

Or you just go Wyatt and double down on this family being unstoppable.

Shameus has to lose his cash in no? I have to think they're regretting giving him the briefcase as he is now basically just a tag team guy.
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Sheamus winning his cash in on Rollins is perfect IMO. Keeps the "sanctity" of the briefcase (i.e. everyone who has had it won)....and it's actually feasible b/c he's taking advantage of someone hurt. Give him a small run as champ, which will create heat and let whoever else wins will be over.

And...if Bryan is really cleared, can create a program with Bryan/Rollins who both "lost" their titles b/c of injuries

 
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Craig_MiamiFL said:
Reigns in the final and become the Corporate Champ. The most interesting far & away IMO and he needs to turn. I'm sure they'll tie in after the fact Rock did the same 17 years ago at Survivor Series in a tourney final to win his first WWE World Title as well. Start of program with Ambrose.
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This was Sam Roberts take on his podcast, and it makes the most sense. He is calling for a 16 man tourney, with Reigns and Ambrose in the finals (Cesaro and New Day in the semis). HHH tosses Reigns a sledgehammer and creates a new Authority/Corporate champ. Reigns goes heel and Ambrose is the sympathetic face.

16 man tourney is a lot of matches, so mix in a double countout (maybe Breeze/Ziggler helping that feud) and a double DQ to give guys some byes. Maybe even go 15 man tourney giving Reigns, the number one contender, a first round bye. You could even have the New Day as one spot in the tourney, never knowing who is actually going to wrestle.

Have a traditional 5 on 5 SS match with NXT faces vs NXT villains. Whoever survives that match gets spots in the tourney, give those guys some rub. Divas match and Wyatt Family vs. Brothers of Destruction and you have a full PPV.

 
GoFishTN said:
Reigns with the Authority is just about the worst thing I can think of.
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What's wrong with it? Reigns doesn't have to talk, and doesn't have to be the weasel champ Rollins has been. Sets up heel Reigns vs, face Ambrose for the next few PPVs. And then you get a massive Face return for Rollins to challenge Reigns for the championship that he never lost. Mix in a returning Daniel Bryan in between and you have compelling main events for the next year. With no mention of John Cena.

 
Bogart said:
GoFishTN said:
Reigns with the Authority is just about the worst thing I can think of.
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What's wrong with it? Reigns doesn't have to talk, and doesn't have to be the weasel champ Rollins has been. Sets up heel Reigns vs, face Ambrose for the next few PPVs. And then you get a massive Face return for Rollins to challenge Reigns for the championship that he never lost. Mix in a returning Daniel Bryan in between and you have compelling main events for the next year. With no mention of John Cena.
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Reigns winning and flipping just feels lazy to me. Continuing Reigns story as a rehabbed babyface is more compelling, in my opinion. This is a great chance to screw him at some point in the tournament to gain some sympathy...put more roadblocks in his way. If you really want him to turn heel (and I think it's a mistake), I think the play is to have Ambrose win...Reigns get jealous...and Reigns turn directly on Ambrose to get a title shot (no need to involve the Authority).

If you want to go the (somewhat predictable) corporate champion route, I think you have to go with someone else with extensive NXT history...Owens, Cesaro, or Big E.

 
Bogart said:
GoFishTN said:
Reigns with the Authority is just about the worst thing I can think of.
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What's wrong with it? Reigns doesn't have to talk, and doesn't have to be the weasel champ Rollins has been. Sets up heel Reigns vs, face Ambrose for the next few PPVs. And then you get a massive Face return for Rollins to challenge Reigns for the championship that he never lost. Mix in a returning Daniel Bryan in between and you have compelling main events for the next year. With no mention of John Cena.
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Fantasy booking of Reigns turning heel just to placate the smark need to hate all babyfaces is dumb. Thinking the WWE will suddenly book a heel strong is dumb. The Authority getting more airtime is dumb. Repeating the exact same thing that happened last time they did a tournament at Survivor Series is really dumb.

There's more, but I don't have that much time.

 
GoFishTN said:
Fantasy booking of Reigns turning heel just to placate the smark need to hate all babyfaces is dumb. Thinking the WWE will suddenly book a heel strong is dumb. The Authority getting more airtime is dumb. Repeating the exact same thing that happened last time they did a tournament at Survivor Series is really dumb.
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So you're saying it's all going to happen.

 
CBusAlex said:
GoFishTN said:
Fantasy booking of Reigns turning heel just to placate the smark need to hate all babyfaces is dumb. Thinking the WWE will suddenly book a heel strong is dumb. The Authority getting more airtime is dumb. Repeating the exact same thing that happened last time they did a tournament at Survivor Series is really dumb.
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So you're saying it's all going to happen.
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So if not Reigns, either as heel or face, winning the title, who?

Seems to early for Owens, too early for Cesaro. No Orton, Cena, Rollins, Bryan. Sheamus is dumb. Kane and Big Show too old. I don't see an NXT guy getting it.

Put it on Big E? Let New Day have all the gold?

 
Authority obviously wlll get their new champ. As long as their next champ isn't booked as a whiny kiss ###, they'll be fine. That Kane/J&J stuff was some of the worst stuff I've watched in the past decade. And it would never ####### end. :lmao: There was no end game to all that ####. Nothing.

Outside Reigns -- whom I think would far and away be the best choice for both the company and him long term (and history would agree if they're looking to him as face of the company) -- next best option is Cesaro. Everyone else, blah.

 
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bosoxs45 said:
Is Samoa Joe ever going to move up from NTX to WWE's main roster?
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I think he stays at NXT for a while if not forever. Being the big fish in the small, but hip pond isn't the worst thing in the world right now. Easier schedule, light travel. I have to think WWE is paying him more than the others on the NXT roster, so it should be worth his while.

He's a better Rhino at this point. And could be set up to take over a trainer role going forward. Nothing wrong with that.

 
Bogart said:
bosoxs45 said:
Is Samoa Joe ever going to move up from NTX to WWE's main roster?
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I think he stays at NXT for a while if not forever. Being the big fish in the small, but hip pond isn't the worst thing in the world right now. Easier schedule, light travel. I have to think WWE is paying him more than the others on the NXT roster, so it should be worth his while.

He's a better Rhino at this point. And could be set up to take over a trainer role going forward. Nothing wrong with that.
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Rumor is Joe and Asuka were signed to be NXT lifers to keep consistency in the brand

 
Bogart said:
So if not Reigns, either as heel or face, winning the title, who?

Seems to early for Owens, too early for Cesaro. No Orton, Cena, Rollins, Bryan. Sheamus is dumb. Kane and Big Show too old. I don't see an NXT guy getting it.

Put it on Big E? Let New Day have all the gold?
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Aw, heck, just put the strap back on Lesnar. Even with his limited schedule, you could milk for a while. Whatever.

 
KiddLattimer said:
Bogart said:
bosoxs45 said:
Is Samoa Joe ever going to move up from NTX to WWE's main roster?
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I think he stays at NXT for a while if not forever. Being the big fish in the small, but hip pond isn't the worst thing in the world right now. Easier schedule, light travel. I have to think WWE is paying him more than the others on the NXT roster, so it should be worth his while.

He's a better Rhino at this point. And could be set up to take over a trainer role going forward. Nothing wrong with that.
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Rumor is Joe and Asuka were signed to be NXT lifers to keep consistency in the brand
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WWE has ####ed up a lot of "can't miss" types, but I'll be pissed if the #### up Asuka. She's one of the more enjoyable acts I've come across in a while. She's got that "special" factor that Balor has.

 
I'm really hoping that Cheap Heat lands somewhere else. I know Rosenberg is not everyone's cup of tea, but I really like what Shoemaker brings to the podcast. And finally adding a guy like Stat Guy Greg to just look stuff up was a great thing.

 
Kotaku: Why bad pro wrestling injuries can often be good news.

What will WWE do? If they still want Reigns to get the title soon, they’re surely aware that he’s been hurt most when fans can see him being maneuvered to the top spot. Having him win his way through tournament matches could either win fan respect or trigger backlash at the perceived inevitability.
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Joe turned heel the other night, destroyed Balor after Corbin interrupted the title match and destroyed both Balor and Crews.

If I'm running WWE, I'm putting Roman and Dean in the finals and having Joe come out of the crowd to help Reigns win the title. Next night Joe cuts a promo praising the new champ and talks about he's here now to help his Samoan buddy stay on top. Ambrose comes out they brawl all over.

Later on some babyface is facing Reigns in the main event and when they get the upper hand, The Usos come flying out to beat down said babyface.

Your new top heel faction is Reigns, Joe and The Usos. Authority finally goes away.

 
Apparently many of my Facebook friends are WWE marks. I saw a conversation on my wall of whether the injury is a cheap excuse for Rollins to get out of his fight with Reigns. That cheap, no-good *******! I don't know whether to make fun of them or to envy them. I sometimes miss when it was real to me too, dammit!

 
WWE has perfect opportunity to make a good move here and Reigns or Ambrose makes most sense. Should be interesting to see how they blow this.

On another note....anyone posting / reading this and uses Twitter a lot. I have the @suplexcity##### handle. Anyone want to buy it lmk.

 
SlaX said:
Apparently many of my Facebook friends are WWE marks. I saw a conversation on my wall of whether the injury is a cheap excuse for Rollins to get out of his fight with Reigns. That cheap, no-good *******! I don't know whether to make fun of them or to envy them. I sometimes miss when it was real to me too, dammit!
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Are these people over the age of 12?

 
GoFishTN said:
SlaX said:
Apparently many of my Facebook friends are WWE marks. I saw a conversation on my wall of whether the injury is a cheap excuse for Rollins to get out of his fight with Reigns. That cheap, no-good *******! I don't know whether to make fun of them or to envy them. I sometimes miss when it was real to me too, dammit!
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Are these people over the age of 12?
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If these friends are in West Viginia or western Maryland, probably not.

 
The bracket for the tournament has been posted. Here is a link - http://www.oowrestling.com/OOForums/viewthread.php?tid=30849

Tourney matches start tonight and will continue on this week's SmackDown. Semis and finals only will be at Survivor Series.

And tonight's RAW has taped from the U.K. I have not read spoilers. Usually the overseas same-day taped shows tend to be weak. However, this one is obviously significant.

Other observations - No Taker/Kane/Wyatts in the bracket. No Brock either. Kalisto made it, as did Tyler Breeze, despite not having a match on RAW yet (unless I missed it).

 
Tom Servo said:
GoFishTN said:
SlaX said:
Apparently many of my Facebook friends are WWE marks. I saw a conversation on my wall of whether the injury is a cheap excuse for Rollins to get out of his fight with Reigns. That cheap, no-good *******! I don't know whether to make fun of them or to envy them. I sometimes miss when it was real to me too, dammit!
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Are these people over the age of 12?
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If these friends are in West Viginia or western Maryland, probably not.
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None in WV or MD. But yes, over 12. :shrug:

 
It sucks Rollins couldn't relinquish the belt live. I imagine he is prepping for his surgery. They fumbled this first segment.

Agree with the Finn Balor chatter.

 
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Too bad they couldnt at least come up with something storyline interesting for this tournament. Like traditional Survivor Series matches (perhaps with random draws for teams) with the winners in a battle royal allowing last 2 pinfall/submission. Just more of the same uninteresting straight wrestling matches :yawn: Sad at this point to even get hopes up.

Cesaro winning is good. That he's now got to face Reigns Round 2 isn't. Hell it'd be my pick for the best option for final.

And this Zeb/Del Rio thing is horrific. Feels like Zeb is completely scripted and comes off awful. Unless he's really just ill or something, he really is coming across as a bumbling idiot. (Which he's a great talker) Makes Del Rio look terrible too.

 
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Craig_MiamiFL said:
Too bad they couldnt at least come up with something storyline interesting for this tournament. Like traditional Survivor Series matches (perhaps with random draws for teams) with the winners in a battle royal allowing last 2 pinfall/submission. Just more of the same uninteresting straight wrestling matches :yawn: Sad at this point to even get hopes up.

Cesaro winning is good. That he's now got to face Reigns Round 2 isn't. Hell it'd be my pick for the best option for final.

And this Zeb/Del Rio thing is horrific. Feels like Zeb is completely scripted and comes off awful. Unless he's really just ill or something, he really is coming across as a bumbling idiot. (Which he's a great talker) Makes Del Rio look terrible too.
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It looked like Cesaro hurt his arm last night. He really sold the hell out of it, so I hope it's not a legit injury.

The Del Rio thing just confuses the hell out of me. Are we supposed to be offended that these guys want to bring Mexico and America together? The US and Mexico are both great countries? The horror!

I did enjoy the opening segment with HHH and Reigns. Opens up a lot of storyline possibilities regardless of who wins the tournament. Reigns vs the authority? Reigns eventually getting frustrated about his inability to win the title and finally caving into the authority (heel turn)? Rollins being pissed that the authority replaced him the second he is no longer useful to them (face turn)?

Thought HHH did a really nice job selling the benefits of selling out, and while Reigns isn't good on the mic I think he communicates well with his facial expressions and body language.

 
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