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DJackson10 said:
Brock Lesnar vs. Cody Rhodes will take place at SummerSlam, with a stipulation that we have not seen in a very long time in WWE. - Wrestling Observer Radio.

It was also reported this morning that an idea for a dog collar match was shot down by WWE management.
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I'm so glad I did not buy tickets to see this in my hometown. Flirted with the idea thinking it would be here that Cody beat Roman.
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Why? Should be a banger show regardless
 
Aside from the matches with Backlund and Hogan, my biggest memory of the Sheik was a match with Andre who just beat the crap out of him the entire match. Andre legit hated the Sheik, and at the end of the match, Andre threw the ref (a wrestler) on the Sheik’s face before he could his hands up to protect himself. Sheik rolled out grabbing his nose and bolted for the dressing room. Lol
 
Ghost Rider said:
Aside from the matches with Backlund and Hogan, my biggest memory of the Sheik was a match with Andre who just beat the crap out of him the entire match. Andre legit hated the Sheik, and at the end of the match, Andre threw the ref (a wrestler) on the Sheik’s face before he could his hands up to protect himself. Sheik rolled out grabbing his nose and bolted for the dressing room. Lol
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Ironically, the only wrestler I knew of that Andre feared was Haku.
 
Due to a desire to keep costs down, Stardom tells Naomi thanks but no thanks.

The professional wrestling industry is still feeling the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, especially in Japan. Both New Japan Pro-Wrestling and STARDOM, which are owned by Bushiroad, have been hit hard financially and have had to navigate a tough road to recovery. As a result, both promotions have been under pressure to keep costs down, which has led to passing on some opportunities.

According to Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, one of those missed opportunities was Trinity Fatu, formerly known as Naomi in WWE. There was a chance for Fatu to join her former tag team partner Sasha Banks, now known as Mercedes Mone, in Japan. However, it appears that Bushiroad felt it would cost too much and ultimately passed on the deal.
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I know they needed to find SOMETHING for Rhodes to do @ MiTB, but Dominik? I get Dominik has heat right now and it helps him, but how does that help Cody at all?
 
Tom Servo said:
Due to a desire to keep costs down, Stardom tells Naomi thanks but no thanks.

The professional wrestling industry is still feeling the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, especially in Japan. Both New Japan Pro-Wrestling and STARDOM, which are owned by Bushiroad, have been hit hard financially and have had to navigate a tough road to recovery. As a result, both promotions have been under pressure to keep costs down, which has led to passing on some opportunities.

According to Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, one of those missed opportunities was Trinity Fatu, formerly known as Naomi in WWE. There was a chance for Fatu to join her former tag team partner Sasha Banks, now known as Mercedes Mone, in Japan. However, it appears that Bushiroad felt it would cost too much and ultimately passed on the deal.
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Guess she isn’t as big as she thought she was. Not confirmed but I heard she was asking for outrageous money and using who her family is name too.
 
BJ Whitemore Fired from AEW

UPDATE: BJ Whitmer has been fired from AEW.

Original Story:

4x ROH Tag Team Champion and AEW Producer BJ Whitmer Arrested for Burglary and Strangulation

BJ Whitmer was arrested on the evening of June 4 by the Boone County Sheriff’s Department in Boone County, Kentucky.

Whitmer has been charged with strangulation in the first degree and burglary in the second degree.

The First Degree offense covers situations where one person chokes another and causes an injury in the process. Burglary in the second degree refers to non-residential burglaries.

A bond amount of $25,000 was set with Whitmer bound to a Grand Jury. He was released on June 12, 2023. The release comments in the file state 'FINAL RELEASE.'
 
PWInsider reports there has been no update on Drew McIntyre signing a new deal with WWE.

A big crux of the negotiations is how he will be used from a storyline perspective.

There’s recently been a push within WWE creative to have Drew McIntyre back into the storyline mix by Money in the Bank.

But the belief is that until McIntyre and WWE come to an agreement on how he will be used going forward, he won't be back

There were meetings last week regarding pitches for his return.
 
Both Rush and Bandido no longer are with AAA Wrestling. With NJPW partnership with CMLL both wrestlers could compete at Forbidden Door. Rush/Natio LIJ reunion?
 
DJackson10 said:
Tanahashi Vs MJF at Forbidden door!!!!
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Bringing our AISHITEMAAAAAAA ACE! towel to Toronto.

He's the Ace of the Universe, the 1 in 1 Million.

I can't wait til Gedo gives him a "one last run" storyline through the G1 and winning the title at the Dome again. It's going to be one of the best ever.
 
Seeing what LA Knight is doing over at WWE makes me wish that Nick Aldis could have found his way over there, at least to NXT. Those two along with Ricky Starks kinda dominated everything NWA during the pandemic. Hate that I barely know where he is right now (spoiler: Impact?)
 
Wade Keller of PWTorch claimed on an audio show late last night that something about CM Punk would be published before the debut of “Collision” that wasn't going to help matters and would turn the situation into "one of those weeks" for All Elite Wrestling.

Fightful Select has since reported that CM Punk taped an interview with ESPN last week which is scheduled to drop "sometime soon." The interview was set up by AEW and the promotion did monitor what was going on. Punk is believed to have spoken in a manner that "would blur the lines and create buzz for upcoming shows" in such a way that those watching might question if Punk was working people or shooting.
 
BREAKING NEWS: WWE's exclusive TV rights renewal with Fox and NBCU have expired which will allow WWE to seek out other platforms for their weekly shows. Both Disney and Amazon are reportedly very interested. If no deal is reached to renew, Smackdown and RAW will leave their respective networks sometime in late 2024.
 
I would absolutely watch more RAW and SD if they were on a streaming platform that was worth a damn.

Just move both shows and the Network to Disney+ already. It just makes sense to have a WWE tile next to Marvel and Star Wars.
 
Bogart said:
Seeing what LA Knight is doing over at WWE makes me wish that Nick Aldis could have found his way over there, at least to NXT. Those two along with Ricky Starks kinda dominated everything NWA during the pandemic. Hate that I barely know where he is right now (spoiler: Impact?)
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Aldis deserves better than NXT. That’s low grade.
 
DJackson10 said:
Wade Keller of PWTorch claimed on an audio show late last night that something about CM Punk would be published before the debut of “Collision” that wasn't going to help matters and would turn the situation into "one of those weeks" for All Elite Wrestling.

Fightful Select has since reported that CM Punk taped an interview with ESPN last week which is scheduled to drop "sometime soon." The interview was set up by AEW and the promotion did monitor what was going on. Punk is believed to have spoken in a manner that "would blur the lines and create buzz for upcoming shows" in such a way that those watching might question if Punk was working people or shooting.
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Punk is a cancer. If he can’t let it go, he needs to go. You can’t make money if no one will work with you.
 
Tom Servo said:
Bogart said:
Seeing what LA Knight is doing over at WWE makes me wish that Nick Aldis could have found his way over there, at least to NXT. Those two along with Ricky Starks kinda dominated everything NWA during the pandemic. Hate that I barely know where he is right now (spoiler: Impact?)
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Aldis deserves better than NXT. That’s low grade.
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No disagreement there. He deserves a run on the big shows, but I would settle for an NXT run first.

A Cody/Aldis rematch with nods to their NWA match would be something special.
 
Tom Servo said:
Bogart said:
Seeing what LA Knight is doing over at WWE makes me wish that Nick Aldis could have found his way over there, at least to NXT. Those two along with Ricky Starks kinda dominated everything NWA during the pandemic. Hate that I barely know where he is right now (spoiler: Impact?)
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Aldis deserves better than NXT. That’s low grade.
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Was hoping Cody would stay in AEW and Aldis comes over because they could run some sort of NWA angle there renew the rivalry from first ALLIN. I don't trust WWE to do the.
 
Tom Servo said:
DJackson10 said:
Wade Keller of PWTorch claimed on an audio show late last night that something about CM Punk would be published before the debut of “Collision” that wasn't going to help matters and would turn the situation into "one of those weeks" for All Elite Wrestling.

Fightful Select has since reported that CM Punk taped an interview with ESPN last week which is scheduled to drop "sometime soon." The interview was set up by AEW and the promotion did monitor what was going on. Punk is believed to have spoken in a manner that "would blur the lines and create buzz for upcoming shows" in such a way that those watching might question if Punk was working people or shooting.
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Punk is a cancer. If he can’t let it go, he needs to go. You can’t make money if no one will work with you.
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Yep the problem here is you got Punk and The Elite both groups with big personalities that won't mix. Punk is good but he's a mark for himself and thinks he's better then he really is. He also is really petty about ****. He'll give you advise but he won't be buddy buddy unless you stroke his ego telling him how good he is constantly.

The Elite have done ROH and NJPW. Punk has his accolades but he never got to go do Japan. The Elite were part of the biggest Gajin faction over in Japan for yrs and sold a lot of merchandise. They created their own independent PPV and sold it out in mere minutes then created their own company with some help. Obviously they felt disrespected by Punk too

I heard Punk went in AEW acting like what he hated in WWE and thinking backstage would be like that despite Tony and Cody saying it wouldn't. Punk does rub people the wrong way too with his straight edge lifestyle. It's like he looks down on anyone who isn't in his lifestyle and I think thats where he and Hangman had issue. Punk is likened to the person who says they are a Christian but go over board on community stuff just for the "hey look at me".

Punk is a good wrestler good on the Mic but he's no where close as some of his fans put him. His run in AEW has been lackluster and he's looked completely out of shape during his single bouts.
 
Elite draw 699k in main event of Dynamite. ONCE AGAIN, the lowest part of the show. But let's put Punk on the Saturday show.... :lmao:

The sooner A&W moves away from no talent bums/"EVPs" like Balding Bucks, the better off they'll be. These two wrestler cosplay no selling Meltzer bed buddies are the absolute worst thing that's happened to wrestling.

The absolute worst. And in their delusional minds, they think they're over and draws. Despite years upon years upon years of evidence that no one gives a single **** about them.

A&W can't even use the old basketball excuse for the terrible rating....
 
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Tom Servo said:
DJackson10 said:
Wade Keller of PWTorch claimed on an audio show late last night that something about CM Punk would be published before the debut of “Collision” that wasn't going to help matters and would turn the situation into "one of those weeks" for All Elite Wrestling.

Fightful Select has since reported that CM Punk taped an interview with ESPN last week which is scheduled to drop "sometime soon." The interview was set up by AEW and the promotion did monitor what was going on. Punk is believed to have spoken in a manner that "would blur the lines and create buzz for upcoming shows" in such a way that those watching might question if Punk was working people or shooting.
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Punk is a cancer. If he can’t let it go, he needs to go. You can’t make money if no one will work with you.
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And the Bucks have never drawn nor made money........ :shrug:

EVP's BTW
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Tom Servo said:
DJackson10 said:
Wade Keller of PWTorch claimed on an audio show late last night that something about CM Punk would be published before the debut of “Collision” that wasn't going to help matters and would turn the situation into "one of those weeks" for All Elite Wrestling.

Fightful Select has since reported that CM Punk taped an interview with ESPN last week which is scheduled to drop "sometime soon." The interview was set up by AEW and the promotion did monitor what was going on. Punk is believed to have spoken in a manner that "would blur the lines and create buzz for upcoming shows" in such a way that those watching might question if Punk was working people or shooting.
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Punk is a cancer. If he can’t let it go, he needs to go. You can’t make money if no one will work with you.
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And the Bucks have never drawn nor made money........ :shrug:

EVP's BTW
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Bucks and Elite sold out a an Independent PPV in a matter of Mins without really any commercialized ads. Were part of one of the biggest factions in Japan that repeatedly out sold their march time and time again and Omega's matches in Japan have always been match of the night or year quality. Punk is good but he's no where near what he use to be. The only time he's selling out anything is his native Chicago anymore. I use to be a huge Punk fan but now I'm realizing over the years why a lot don't like him. He came back 4-5 yrs too late IMHO. I got tired of the whole is he or is he not coming back? Oh Punk is coming back at X Show or X company. It got tiresome. I'm well over the guy. I wish him well but the dude has burned so many bridges over the last decade.

He's also become a hypocrite doing in AEW what he complained about former WWE stars coming in for a payday did.

Also wrestling in general ratings are down. The wrestling pod I watch has kept track of WWE RAW ratings since '15 and they've been going down each year since. Wrestling isn't as popular as it once was in America. Its a niche just like Soccer here in America is. It's not going to grow anymore then it is now.
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Elite draw 699k in main event of Dynamite. ONCE AGAIN, the lowest part of the show. But let's put Punk on the Saturday show.... :lmao:

The sooner A&W moves away from no talent bums/"EVPs" like Balding Bucks, the better off they'll be. These two wrestler cosplay no selling Meltzer bed buddies are the absolute worst thing that's happened to wrestling.

The absolute worst. And in their delusional minds, they think they're over and draws. Despite years upon years upon years of evidence that no one gives a single **** about them.

A&W can't even use the old basketball excuse for the terrible rating....
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WWE been using the other sports excuse for yrs for crumbling ratings. This is what I hate about certain fans. There's people who can criticize AEW but also give them their props but I see a lot of people complaining about stuff AEW does they don't like but have an absolute circle Jerk because WWE did it claiming it was better

There's a right way to go about this. Give both credit when it's do but also don't complain about one company doing something but love when the other company does it too.

Also wrestling doesn't draw as much as it did. RAW has been around what almost 3 decades while AEW has barely 5 yrs? WWE will obviously have more fans. How many though stream these shows on fire stick ROKU etc that isn't part of TV ratings? I've also seen people look into the streaming ratings of RAW and the numbers don't go up much further then what they are for regular cable.
 
I think you have to give the Bucks credit for their New Japan work, the whole All In event and the crazy Hot Topic tshirt numbers, but I wouldn't make any wrestler part of my executive management team.
 
Bogart said:
I think you have to give the Bucks credit for their New Japan work, the whole All In event and the crazy Hot Topic tshirt numbers, but I wouldn't make any wrestler part of my executive management team.
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I wouldn't but both brothers got degrees in business management and I think Matt's wife is in marketing or something like that. If they were complete rando's with no prior experience I'd agree but both are really smart individuals. I took my business account manager friend with me to a show in ROH they were at prior to leaving NJPW/ROH and he got into a convo with them about business including wrestling. He was really impressed with them and said if this whole wrestling thing hadn't worked out for them they'd be making bank in business in some way.
 
Balding Balds are toxic. They are over and over and over the worst drawing on the shows. Instead of being men they run to Meltzer to spread lies. No credit for their bedtime buddy Meltzer buying a bunch of their shirts at Hobby Lobby. Cosplay wrestlers that need to go back to garbage can wrestling or wherever they came from. 👍 They are the absolute worst thing to ever happen to professional wrestling in history.

AEW has been crumbling since Cody left. Puke is the only draw they've got left so Tiny is bending over backwards for him. They've already got no opponents left for MJF. They had to trot out their sad looking group of "pillars" against him. A sad lot. Which only highlighted the complete lack of progress any of them have made. Jungle Juice belongs on Lucha's shoulders again. Darby Alien hasn't graduated beyond playing fan that won a Dress like Sting contest the past 3 years.
 
Also I think the whole Meltzer thing is BS contrived by people who never liked the Bucks and have had issues with Meltzer as well. if they are upset about that why aren’t these same people upset with WWF/E doing the same for yrs with Dave? Triple H admitted it awhile back too? Using Dave to talk poorly about former talent or is it mo
 
I just re-watched Punk's promo. Who in AEW right now can talk like that? Can get a building rocking like that?
Maybe MJF. Maybe.
Fact is, AEW needs Punk a heck of a lot more than Punk needs them. You can throw out names like Page, Bucks, Omega, Jericho, Moxley, Cassidy but are they really 'stars'? I know they can wrestle and put up decent matches, but how many people besides that 10% of 'smart' super fans really care about them and come out just to see them? Not too many judging by the Wednesday night ratings.
 
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