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Very underwhelming WM. More like an average PLE that was salvaged by some solid matches on night two. Saw trouble brewing with so much emphasis and Uso and the Rock/ Cena storyline in addition to what seems like lazy and hastily patched in booking. I turned off night one after what had to be one of the lousiest opening matches I have seen on any WWE programming in quite some time let alone the kickoff to WM. Fans were led to believe that Jay needed to prove something on his own. Dubious for the most part until the catch phrase hit and had the power to overcome a very average wrestler with no originality when it matters most - in the ring. We saw this on display on Saturday night. The ending was absolutely pathetic. WWE just buried Gunter's career on a sleeper hold. As a fan of pro wrestling for many decades it was almost shocking to see this. I looked at the remainder of the night 1 card it wasn't worth the time. No title on the line for the night 1 main event? Had zero interest in the New Day and Charlotte matches. I would have bought into Tiff vs. Roxanne. Probably missed a solid match with LAK vs Fatu.

Night 2 was a good PLE but was it Wrestlemania quality? All the matches on the lower card were good matches. IYO continues to show why she is at the top of the game and always puts on a great match when she steps between the ropes. Kudos to BB and RR for bringing good energy. Styles vs Paul was solid but the bit at the end with Kross was awkward. It was fun to see Dom win the FF way match and would have probably been a plus to have one of the talented NXT women step up with Valky instead of Becky although I do like BL and it appears as if she is back in full "The Man" character. The Orton spot was a cheap filler but nice to see JH get a nice pop and again - buried minutes later. Austin flying around that ring was insane. They are fortunate that that crash wasn't worse than it could have been. The main event was good and then Travis Scott showed up and things slid into the out house quickly. Hard to buy into the old ref getting taken out spot let alone the old ref getting taken out twice bit.

WM 41 will prove that the HHH creative mystique from last year was more of a pinch hit for Vince strategy that has morphed into a lot of sizzle and very little steak. A lot of the promising NXT talent that has come up recently has been buried under the weight of pushing vets into the main story lines. Honestly, I was checking out when Cena showed up for his "in-ring" goodbye tour and Yeet became bigger than everything else. The Rock waltzes in alters the direction of the main event and then disappears. Additionally, a lot of the good undercard matches were shorter than they should have been. Like the Super Bowl, commercials and promotions were dominating. Too much. Way too much. WWE is full fledge corporate sell out. I sure hope the roster on all WWE brands have LTI non-vested equity benefits.
 
Loved the camera work on the Orton finish outta nowhere :lmao:
Have to admit, I popped when Hendry appeared. I knew he'd get squashed, but I'm glad it was a bit of a back and forth and not a super quick match. Randy mocking him after the match with the turn and pose in the middle of the ring had me dying. Definitely a fun little match in the middle of a busy night.
When it comes to the best of the best from the 21st century, I will take Orton over almost anyone. Awesome as both a face and a heel, always great in the ring, and while not a top tier talker like Austin or Punk, he is still very good on the mic.

That was cool to see Orton give Hendry a pat after mocking him, a major show of respect:


And oh yeah, that main event last night sucked. Saturday's was great, though.
 
A lot of the recent booking makes you think either Vince is back involved behind the scenes or Vince wasn't the sole problem. (Former may seem unlikely but HHH mentioned Vince and Linda was shown on camera at HOF)

Just seems a bunch of illogical / last minute on the fly garbage thrown together.
 
A lot of the recent booking makes you think either Vince is back involved or Vince wasn't the sole problem.

Just seems a bunch of illogical / last minute on the fly garbage thrown together.
Agreed.

Triple H did great last year when he was still working with Vince's pre-existing storylines, but with the Bloodline thing over (for now at least) and everything else new, he has really pooped the bed. And it's not like Vince hadn't lost the plot to some degree before his ouster, but he still new what worked from a big picture standpoint. And to be fair, Triple H has done plenty of good, especially with the way they promote the company now (so many wrestlers going on podcasts and TV shows everywhere and constantly blurring the lines between kayfabe and reality is happing a lot now and is a great thing), but he has really fallen on his face since the dubious decisions to have Charlotte and Jey win their respective Rumbles.
 
About the Austin thing, what was he thinking? He was flying. Who didn't think something was going to happen.
First thing I thought of when he started down the ramp was "dang he is flying....what if he goes into the crowd?"

Stupid
 
I wanted two things out of this Mania and I got them both. The winner of Night One's main event being
Seth Rollins
as well as the winner of Night Two's Intercontinental Title match being
Dirty Dom
Both guys for me are the tip-top of the company and deserved those spoils.

I personally didn't need anything more from Night Two's Main Event in terms of story. I saw a lot of people saying they should have saved turning Cena heel for that moment, but I am expecting the big moment tonight to start a new chapter.

I also ate an entire large thin crust pizza by myself.
 
I wanted two things out of this Mania and I got them both. The winner of Night One's main event being
Seth Rollins
as well as the winner of Night Two's Intercontinental Title match being
Dirty Dom
Both guys for me are the tip-top of the company and deserved those spoils.

I personally didn't need anything more from Night Two's Main Event in terms of story. I saw a lot of people saying they should have saved turning Cena heel for that moment, but I am expecting the big moment tonight to start a new chapter.

I also ate an entire large thin crust pizza by myself.
Seth absolutely deserves it.
 
Rock with some rambling interview with McAfee.

This whole Cena turn didn't require Rock or that short skinny runt at all if Rock wasn't getting involved at Mania. Rock says he didn't want to make it about Cody/Cenas soul...wtf....he literally just did. 🤣

Rock says he backed off to make it all about Cena & Cody.....yet that skinny runt comes in at the end takes 25 minutes to get to the ring ......

Ok, guy.

WWE creative is really in a bad way right now. Maybe it's not in the depths of hell at McMahon's worst but it's not far off of it right now

Rock went on McAfee because everyone was giving him ****. And he didn't come off looking good with his rambling heap of 🙂. He'd have been better off not addressing at all.
 
Oh ye of little faith in HHH. I saw sparks of a lot of good at WM that reminded me of black and gold NXT. You know, when HHH was running the show there.

I think he is hamstrung by leadership above him. If they pass him a directive, HHH has to carry it out if he can’t win the argument against a corporate decision. He’s merely the head of creative now.
 
In other news, AEW has been stringing together a few consecutively excellent shows.

If they announce Omega vs Okada for All-In Texas I will be tempted to see how a cowboy hat looks on baby girl. Yeehaw, that has been the series of the century.

Ospreay vs Takeshita was flippin’ great last week.
 
Finally, over in Tokyo, poor president Tanahashi has to build the New Japan brand back up.

Naito (and BUSHI) leaving NJPW in early May.

Ok, let’s be honest: Naito’s knees left New Japan about 6 years ago and the rest of his body is now following suit. He had no more left to give the company, it’s just a confirmation of the state of their business.

Tsuji Yota needs to win a banger of a G1. Tighten the blocks back down and deliver great match quality. Make it a grueling summer tournament once again and wrap it up by putting over your future.
 
Rock with some rambling interview with McAfee.

This whole Cena turn didn't require Rock or that short skinny runt at all if Rock wasn't getting involved at Mania. Rock says he didn't want to make it about Cody/Cenas soul...wtf....he literally just did. 🤣

Rock says he backed off to make it all about Cena & Cody.....yet that skinny runt comes in at the end takes 25 minutes to get to the ring ......

Ok, guy.

WWE creative is really in a bad way right now. Maybe it's not in the depths of hell at McMahon's worst but it's not far off of it right now

Rock went on McAfee because everyone was giving him ****. And he didn't come off looking good with his rambling heap of 🙂. He'd have been better off not addressing at all.

Oh ye of little faith in HHH. I saw sparks of a lot of good at WM that reminded me of black and gold NXT. You know, when HHH was running the show there.

I think he is hamstrung by leadership above him. If they pass him a directive, HHH has to carry it out if he can’t win the argument against a corporate decision. He’s merely the head of creative now.
Right, this is all on the Rock, who inserted himself into a story that he clearly had no commitment to finishing, and then was nowhere to be seen when the story climaxed (at Wrestlemania). Just an epic fail on his part. His apperance on McAfee came off as more damage control than anything, but he just made it worse.
 
Tony Khan has cut bait with all the WWE sandbags outside of a couple notable exceptions and his weekly wrestling show is firing on all cylinders again.

AEW is cooking. Great main event tonight; I love the Hangman’s workrate and Kyle Fletcher is going to be fantastic for a long while yet.
 
Tonight’s Smackdown is like a “Who’s Who?” of people that bore me to tears and who I wouldn’t mind not seeing ever again.

Pretty Deadly, Nia Jax, and Naomi so far. Just waiting for them to trot out Grayson Waller and Pete Dunne to round things out.
 
Tonight’s Smackdown is like a “Who’s Who?” of people that bore me to tears and who I wouldn’t mind not seeing ever again.

Pretty Deadly, Nia Jax, and Naomi so far. Just waiting for them to trot out Grayson Waller and Pete Dunne to round things out.
The ref in the Pretty Deadly Fraxiom match was just awful. Elton got busted up due to a Frazer botch, and it was like he was concussed and forgot to kick out. It wasn't a late kick out, he just didn't kick out at all. The ref just pulled her arm and called it a 2 count. They got Frazer out of the match and Wilson hits a powerbomb. I think the ref was confused and thought they were trying to end the match due to an injury, so she counts 3. They just looked at her like "that's not the finish" so they just kept going. Some fans booing at this point. Fraxiom hits their finishing move for the win.

Sloppy spots, but one of the worst reffing performances I've seen in a very long time.
 
Tonight’s Smackdown is like a “Who’s Who?” of people that bore me to tears and who I wouldn’t mind not seeing ever again.

Pretty Deadly, Nia Jax, and Naomi so far. Just waiting for them to trot out Grayson Waller and Pete Dunne to round things out.
The ref in the Pretty Deadly Fraxiom match was just awful. Elton got busted up due to a Frazer botch, and it was like he was concussed and forgot to kick out. It wasn't a late kick out, he just didn't kick out at all. The ref just pulled her arm and called it a 2 count. They got Frazer out of the match and Wilson hits a powerbomb. I think the ref was confused and thought they were trying to end the match due to an injury, so she counts 3. They just looked at her like "that's not the finish" so they just kept going. Some fans booing at this point. Fraxiom hits their finishing move for the win.

Sloppy spots, but one of the worst reffing performances I've seen in a very long time.
I saw that and had to rewind thinking I thought I heard a three count. Sure enough, she counted three and then the kick out. Elton was really messed up. Dude has blood pouring out of him and for some reason he gets positioned on top of a turnbuckle where a big moves usually happen. Elton in no condition to do anything but get rolled out of the ring. Fraxiom just kept going like it was no big deal and the ref completely botched it. Have not seen Smackdown in quite some time. It was lousy. Black and Miz was decent and the Orton promo was solid. The luchador match looked promising but I turned it off after seeing the main event materialize. Tiffy is going to be ruined by lousy creative.
 

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