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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (4 Viewers)

1) change wardrobe

a) change finisher to that crucifix sitout powerbomb that he makes look awesome

Choose one of those and he's p much untouchable imo.

 
Well RAW was a sh** show again last night. LOL at turning Braun the big loveable Teddybear trying to make him heel is like WWE trying to make Becky Heel. BTW was The Shield reunited last week? Because it didn't seem like it at all. Everyone going crazy The Shield Return you were duped by WWE again. 

Also were we in Toronto last night or Nebraska because the crowd was dead. There was also a CM Punk chant at one point that wasn't picked up (Told by a few people I know who were there and seeing it online). The Stratus return was meah because they announced it weeks ago when ticket sales were down. 

 
Road Dogg was on twitter last night and made.a comment on a tweet to Satin or someone else about the Crowd cheering Becky saying "They're suppose to be booing." WWE logic at it again. Charlotte is suppose to be the heel Becky the Babyface. Flair's character they've developed she seems like a heel when she's a face and a heel when shoes heel. However I do like Becky Heel because it added more to her character. They could've gone with this aggression and all with her as a face though

What Culture reported today Kevin Owens will be the New Paul Heyman guy when he returns. Brock is taking time off apparently (Hence not resigning) to focus on training for his UFC fight with Cormier. Not sure how I feel about this

 
DJackson10 said:
What Culture reported today Kevin Owens will be the New Paul Heyman guy when he returns. Brock is taking time off apparently (Hence not resigning) to focus on training for his UFC fight with Cormier. Not sure how I feel about this
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KO doesn't need a mouthpiece though. I like the pairing but not if it means KO never gets the mic.

 
ended up getting tickets to an NXT show, first time in Buffalo its next week.  It's at a brewery with 100 foot beer silo's outside  Shouldn't be a lot of people there.  Hopefully they still but on a great show.

 
DJackson10 said:
Road Dogg was on twitter last night and made.a comment on a tweet to Satin or someone else about the Crowd cheering Becky saying "They're suppose to be booing." WWE logic at it again. Charlotte is suppose to be the heel Becky the Babyface. Flair's character they've developed she seems like a heel when she's a face and a heel when shoes heel. However I do like Becky Heel because it added more to her character. They could've gone with this aggression and all with her as a face though
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They have a situation set up where Becky could be the contemporary and female version of Steve Austin. She could play the anti-hero role quite well. With her as Austin and Paige as the Authority figure, you might - MIGHT - get it to work again. But, knowing WWE, they'll Plaxico Burress themselves. 

 
Tom Servo said:
They have a situation set up where Becky could be the contemporary and female version of Steve Austin. She could play the anti-hero role quite well. With her as Austin and Paige as the Authority figure, you might - MIGHT - get it to work again. But, knowing WWE, they'll Plaxico Burress themselves. 
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They can't do it with her and Paige. Paige is still well liked. I heard that yesterday about Becky and she'd be perfect for the Austin role though

 
DJackson10 said:
They can't do it with her and Paige. Paige is still well liked. I heard that yesterday about Becky and she'd be perfect for the Austin role though
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Perhaps not with Paige, but Steph would DEFINITELY work. That is, if WWE didn't regard SDL as the B show.

 
DJackson10 said:
That's how you put on a Show. WWE is F'd 
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It was a great show.  A few observations:

1) It was cool how many old school wrestlers were involved accompanying the current wrestlers to to the ring.  DDP, Tommy Dreamer, Jeff Jarrett, Lanny Poffo, etc.  A cool way to connect the old with the new.

2) Jericho loves wrestling. He secretly knows the WWE is crap.  And he wants to revive competition to make wrestling great again.

3) How has Jay Lethal never been signed by the WWE?  To me, he's the greatest wrestle to never wrestle for one of the major federations.  Great in the ring, and one of the most entertaining people the business has seen.

4) I really want to bone Brandi Rhodes.

 
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DJackson10 said:
That's how you put on a Show. WWE is F'd 
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Let's tap the brakes just a little bit.

You had the very best non-WWE talent, for one show, that was allowed almost a year to build. It was really, really good to great, but I don't think Vince or HHH are too terribly worried. If WWE only put on one (or even 4) PPVs a year, they would all knock them out of the park. Basically think the NXT schedule.

I paid the 40 bucks to watch (which felt weird in the WWE network days now), and I was not disappointed, but not blown away either. The crowd was smart and on fire, which helps, and the talent was motivated across the board. Plenty of botched spots, a botched finish (the women's match), and enough moments lingering too long (Cody getting color for one), made you realize just how slick, for better or worse, the WWE product is. But I enjoyed myself for the whole 4 hours.

  1. Going to be really interesting to see what Cody can do for the NWA organization, which is basically a You Tube channel playing at county fairs at this point. A very cool moment seeing him with the belt.
  2. I need more Flip Gordon on my TV screen. Also more Penelope Ford.
  3. The Cracker Barrel was a highlight, especially the Donkey Kong roll and jump. Hangman Page would be WWE champion right now. He is a completely a Vince guy.
  4. I :wub:  Tessa Blanchard so much.
  5. The male on female violence was shocking to see, another reminder of where the WWE was to where it is today.
  6. Rey Mysterio was a young 43 years old, still killing it, and more impressive, Christopher Daniels is 47 years old, and still looks great.
I hope good things come from this. The Bucks, Cody and the rest of the Bullet Club are still going to do their thing in ROH and NJPW, as they should. WWE would ruin Omega and The Bucks right now. I hope guys like Janela (who I really have only seen before on Dojo Pro), MJF (also on Dojo Pro) and the others not as well known see some bigger paydays down the road. They worked their ### off last night and deserve it.

It was really cool to see a DIY undertaking like this get pulled off as well as it did. If I was ROH, NJPW and AAA, I would sign off on a ALLIN2 for 2019 and make sure the guys got any talent they wanted.

 
Al O'Pecia said:
It was a great show.  A few observations:

1) It was cool how many old school wrestlers were involved accompanying the current wrestlers to to the ring.  DDP, Tommy Dreamer, Jeff Jarrett, Lanny Poffo, etc.  A cool way to connect the old with the new.

2) Jericho loves wrestling. He secretly knows the WWE is crap.  And he wants to revive competition to make wrestling great again.

3) How has Jay Lethal never been signed by the WWE?  To me, he's the greatest wrestle to never wrestle for one of the major federations.  Great in the ring, and one of the most entertaining people the business has seen.

4) I really want to bone Brandi Rhodes.
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The guys who's podcast I listen too was tweeting Road Dogg about Flip Gordon. By the time anyone in WWE took notice it was too late and ROH has him now exclusively. The actual contract hasn't been reported but a friend of his was at an even 2 weeks ago I attended and he wrestled and I was talking to someone who was part of the show and introduced us. He said Flip's contract is Exclusive with ROH if he understood everything Flip told him. 

Y2J loves wrestling and knows it is. He's been trying to help them but like many other people have left the company said Vince only listens to a select few people. The podcaster I listen too interviewed someone who left WWE creative about 3 yrs ago. Everything he said then has come true. From Vince is hellbent on Reigns being the guy and won't listen to anyone else on the topic. Alexa Bliss is getting all this air time because she's apparently banging someone in creative on the side who has Vince's ear, Vince shoots down everyone's ideas unless it's from HIS GUYS, Vince doesn't watch any other wrestling nor does he care about them, he's super mad when the fans don't do what he expects them too, and he's still not a fan of the INDIES guys unless he feels they are legit $$$$ makers AKA AJ Styles. He and others also hate any characters that get over on their own (AKA Ty Dillinger, Punk, Rusev Day, Daniel Bryan, etc). The exclusive interview the podcaster was given also said after Bryan was banned from wrestling do to head injuries he heard Vince DR Aman, BuckTeeth along with a few other of Vinces people decided that if Bryan was cleared by Independent Drs they wouldn't. Remember when I said Vince would do anything to get Roman over and hates guys getting over themselves without WWE? Well Vince felt Bryan was too over and would interfere. We've all seen the reports and rumors about Bryan being medically cleared by other Drs outside of WWE. Well This was one of Vince's major ones to get Roman over. That and keeping Brock off TV for so long with the Title. 

I've heard mixed reviews on Hunter depending which former employees you talk to as well as my Co worker who does some of the tapings when they come to Philly. Hunter seems like a complete jackass if you are on his bedside and Dbag if he doesn't like you. But if you are neutral with him or he really likes you he'll do his best to put you in a position to succeed and can be approachable. Two of his guys and why many of the Indy fans wish Hunter takes over soon are KO and Finn Balor with Styles. You honestly think at RAW25 they'd let Finn in the N.W.O angle there doing the TOO SWEET if he wasn't liked by Hunter? Now Hunter seems more willing to adapt and try new things at the very least. he seems to understand the business today a lot more then Vince. I could see a guy like Y2J when he retires and Hunter is taking over as someone Hunter brings in for creative or a bigger role to help him because both care about the business and creative. I could also see a Jimmy Jacobs coming back as well. 

 
Bogart said:
Let's tap the brakes just a little bit.

You had the very best non-WWE talent, for one show, that was allowed almost a year to build. It was really, really good to great, but I don't think Vince or HHH are too terribly worried. If WWE only put on one (or even 4) PPVs a year, they would all knock them out of the park. Basically think the NXT schedule.

I paid the 40 bucks to watch (which felt weird in the WWE network days now), and I was not disappointed, but not blown away either. The crowd was smart and on fire, which helps, and the talent was motivated across the board. Plenty of botched spots, a botched finish (the women's match), and enough moments lingering too long (Cody getting color for one), made you realize just how slick, for better or worse, the WWE product is. But I enjoyed myself for the whole 4 hours.

  1. Going to be really interesting to see what Cody can do for the NWA organization, which is basically a You Tube channel playing at county fairs at this point. A very cool moment seeing him with the belt.
  2. I need more Flip Gordon on my TV screen. Also more Penelope Ford.
  3. The Cracker Barrel was a highlight, especially the Donkey Kong roll and jump. Hangman Page would be WWE champion right now. He is a completely a Vince guy.
  4. I :wub:  Tessa Blanchard so much.
  5. The male on female violence was shocking to see, another reminder of where the WWE was to where it is today.
  6. Rey Mysterio was a young 43 years old, still killing it, and more impressive, Christopher Daniels is 47 years old, and still looks great.
I hope good things come from this. The Bucks, Cody and the rest of the Bullet Club are still going to do their thing in ROH and NJPW, as they should. WWE would ruin Omega and The Bucks right now. I hope guys like Janela (who I really have only seen before on Dojo Pro), MJF (also on Dojo Pro) and the others not as well known see some bigger paydays down the road. They worked their ### off last night and deserve it.

It was really cool to see a DIY undertaking like this get pulled off as well as it did. If I was ROH, NJPW and AAA, I would sign off on a ALLIN2 for 2019 and make sure the guys got any talent they wanted.
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1. Most of the talent has barely if ever worked with each other so there were plenty of botches for that. They were also pushed up for time. If they went over the 11PM slot they were due to pay a ton of extra fees. WWE use to botch a ton more during tapings. I went to a SDLive years ago where Vince came out and made the wrestlers and every redo the whole match again from Entrances and all. WWE botches plenty still. The difference is the production crew and a lotted time. WWE with their own network can go over the allotted time now. 

2. I completely disagree with you on the top part. The WWE PPV's aren't written by the Same people as the Takeovers are. The guys in NXT are no different then the talent there where they get called up to the Big roster if they do well. I think the main NXT writer in creative his Name is Ryan (Forget his last name) is working on the main roster for SD now. SD has gotten better but with Vince running everything still it's still not as good. The difference between NXT production and WWE main roster is night and day. Hunter works NXT and gives every fans a little bit of something. Takeover Brooklyn 4 you had your spot fest of Cole/Ricochet, The big storytelling match main event Gargano/Ciampa. The tag team brawl, a nice Steady match with EC3/Dream and a Women's match. Something for everyone. Each time it's something different. go to the main roster and how many times have we seen Corbain/Balor now? or Drew and Dolph vs Seth and a combo or Finn/Dean/etc? WWE has put on some of the worst PPV events for the last 4-5 yrs. Heck the Saudi Supershow despite not having Women wrestle was better then Mania. The Takeovers keep blowing the main PPV's out of the water and it's not even close. Theres a saying around people that the Takeovers are the Wrestlmania/MITB/SummerSlaim/SurivivorSeries and the main PPV is Sat nights not Sunday anymore. Now put Hunter in control and maybe you have an argument but I vehemently 100% disagree with your statement there.  

3. Vince isn't a huge fan of anyone in Bullet Club including Codi. He hates most of them. Hunter had to pry teeth for him to take Prince Devitt and AJ Styles but given that AJ wasn't an original member and was in TNA plus WWE had him when he was in WCW it was easier to talk Vince into Styles. Vince doesn't want to push you unless you are a big monster type. Vince is still living in the past on big men wrestling style. 

 
Last week she sounded drunk in the ring cutting a promo. Tonight she botched two dives and seemed to run out of gas yelling “Brie Mode”.  I think Brie Bella may have a problem.

 
What in the actual F was that ending last night? I was LMAO last night. I was finishing up Jack Ryan series on Amazon Prime and turned it back on and show absolute chaos. It was more funny then anything because some of the heels helping each other just didn't make any dam sense. I guess we can add WWE uses whole RAW Heel Locker room to try and get Roman over. The fans acted like they couldn't give a dam about it either. 

 
Tom Servo said:
They have a situation set up where Becky could be the contemporary and female version of Steve Austin. She could play the anti-hero role quite well. With her as Austin and Paige as the Authority figure, you might - MIGHT - get it to work again. But, knowing WWE, they'll Plaxico Burress themselves. 
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I marked out more for Becky kicking Charlotte's ### more than anything else on Summerslam.

She's red hot.

 
bcdjr1 said:
Last week she sounded drunk in the ring cutting a promo. Tonight she botched two dives and seemed to run out of gas yelling “Brie Mode”.  I think Brie Bella may have a problem.
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It's like if one of us got a chance to get in the ring.  :lol:

She's trying to be female Daniel Bryan.

 
Stuart Ullman said:
It's like if one of us got a chance to get in the ring.  :lol:
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Uh, not me.  If I got to wrestle, I'd emulate HHH.  No aerial moves, basic power and (my best attempt at) top psychology.  If I come up short, at least I would minimize the risk of serious injury.

I don't think anyone would blame Brie for doing the same after 3 years off.  Air game wasn't exactly her selling point originally anyway.

 
Keith R said:
Uh, not me.  If I got to wrestle, I'd emulate HHH.  No aerial moves, basic power and (my best attempt at) top psychology.  If I come up short, at least I would minimize the risk of serious injury.

I don't think anyone would blame Brie for doing the same after 3 years off.  Air game wasn't exactly her selling point originally anyway.
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I would be a crappier version of Matt Hardy.  :lmao:

 
Tom Servo said:
WWE to release "tell all" book.

Subjects guaranteed NOT to be in the book:

1. Snuka's murder of his GF;

2. Savage - Steff;

3. Steroid era/trial;

4. Owen Hart's death;

5. All drug-related deaths;

6. Pat Patterson/ring boys

Any others?
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Steroids have to be in there - that stuff went to trial and these interviews would give wwe a chance to spin. Maybe this explains why Hogan is back in good graces... 

I think Owen will be there too. Important moment for many and the case was settled. 

Deaths post-wwe career maybe covered as a group, and wwe can spin it to say they tried to help many of the individuals. 

How much will they say about Trump? Linda has stood by him steadfast through everything so far. 

 
Tom Servo said:
WWE to release "tell all" book.

Subjects guaranteed NOT to be in the book:

1. Snuka's murder of his GF;

2. Savage - Steff;

3. Steroid era/trial;

4. Owen Hart's death;

5. All drug-related deaths;

6. Pat Patterson/ring boys

Any others?
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Real Reason Punk Left

ADR 

What Vince Really thinks about Indy Stars

John Cena's affairs with divas

Real reason why Vince hates ECW 

Vince and Roman's sexual relationship 

Most likely anything to do with politics especially Trump

Chris Beniot (Though that goes under several categories in the above

 
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