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*** Official *** Rogue One - A Star Wars Story (1 Viewer)

Todem said:
HOLY ####### ####.

I LOVED THIS MOVIE. 

Just got back from seeing it at the IMAX. It was just Epic. Pure Epic Star Wars. It was the Star Wars movie I have been waiting for since Return Of The Jedi. I thought The Force Awakens was really fun.

But this movie was serious Star Wars on a new level of maturity. I loved the entire Rouge One squad. The characters were great. Some incredible new classic scenes. And the last act was just incredible.

If you are an old school original trilogy fan you seriously owe it to yourself to see this movie a few times on the big screen. No doubt I am going back to see it one more time on the majestic IMAX screen and will no doubt purchase the blue ray for my collection (and extended version would also be welcomed). The pacing was fantastic, the story was tight, the acting was easily the very best ever in a Star Wars movie (not hard to do but seriously....excellent acting seriously).

Not enough superlatives to pass around. Star Wars is alive and well again. It just makes Lucas's Prequels look that much worse and misguided. Save for Revenge Of The Sith the other two are not even needed to be seen ever again for any reason other than the Darth Maul scene.

My new rankings:

Empire Strikes Back

A New Hope

Rouge Squadron

Return Of The Jedi

The Force Awakens

Revenge Of The Sith

Best order to watch them in IMO is

Revenge Of The Sith

Rouge Squadron 

A New Hope

Empire Strikes Back

Return Of The Jedi

The Force Awakens
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All good except it's not Rogue Squadron.

 
Just got back.  A new Star Wars where the actors can actually act - that's something new!  Makes up for the abomination that was The Force Awakens.  Jones, Whitaker, and Tudyk were spectacular choices.

 
Just got back...

The Ugly - No more CGI faces. Ever. I'm begging you.

Vader's pun.

The Bad - Another completely forgettable score. Not bad, per se, but Star Wars is almost as much about the music for me.

The Deus Ex Machina rescue was weak and telegraphed.
The Good - The last half hour is awesome.

Vader finally doing Sith things.

K-2SO is genuine comic relief. He's HK-47 level awesome.

The Great -

They didn't chicken out with the ending. Jyn meeting her ending so nobly gives a fresh breath of new meaning back into A New Hope.
 
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El Floppo said:
just got back.

yeah- #### the people who have to look at their phones constantly. I guess that's what we've come to as a society- #### everybody else, I've got to check in on FB and see what my idiot friends are eating right now.

but I enjoyed the movie a lot- kept it rolling well in spite of the length, looked great, some great new characters, kept it as a stand-alone well (in spite of my kid's tears), and nice to see all the characters from SW. no complaints, really. 
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I love that we get to watch all of our movies at Alamo Drafthouse, where they will throw you out for getting your phone out during a movie.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Just got back...

The Ugly - No more CGI faces. Ever. I'm begging you.

Vader's pun.

The Bad - Another completely forgettable score. Not bad, per se, but Star Wars is almost as much about the music for me.

The Deus Ex Machina rescue was weak and telegraphed.
The Good - The last half hour is awesome.

Vader finally doing Sith things.

K-2SO is genuine comic relief. He's HK-47 level awesome.

The Great -

They didn't chicken out with the ending. Jyn meeting her ending so nobly gives a fresh breath of new meaning back into A New Hope.
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The cgi faces were great. Unreal actually. Get over it Gramps. 

 
I can't believe people are #####ing about the CGI faces. 

1. Tarkin's was noticeable but mostly bc any fan knows he's dead. It was still really well done.

2. Leia's at the end shocked me. I was sure they were going to be cute about it and not show her face, my jaw dropped. It looked exactly like a young, rosy-cheeked Carrie Fisher and was a perfect ending.

I'm way more curious how they nailed the voices. 

But either way it was awesome and opens up a lot of crazy possibilities in the future.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm a trailer junkie and I rarely watch a movie without having seen the trailers a dozen times each and I can't recall ever really noticing it before like I did with this one.  Not sure why it was so much more noticeable for this movie.




 




 
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I will never understand this. Why watch a trailer for a movie you know you're going to watch?

Anyway, saw it Saturday - LOVED it. My wife loved it. My son loved it. The Vader scene at the end was absolutely incredible.

 
Clayton Gray said:
I will never understand this. Why watch a trailer for a movie you know you're going to watch?

Anyway, saw it Saturday - LOVED it. My wife loved it. My son loved it. The Vader scene at the end was absolutely incredible.
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I love movie trailers.  Probably more than actual movies.  I sit down not infrequently and pull up a handful of trailers from my favorites list on Youtube.

 
Good. Not great.

More vader. Less tarkin. Vader needed to be at least looming in the background more. Show the rebels fear him or soemthing.

They just went along with Jyn pretty out of nowhere. Story seemed to move too fast and then it was over. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Good. Not great.

More vader. Less tarkin. Vader needed to be at least looming in the background more. Show the rebels fear him or soemthing.

They just went along with Jyn pretty out of nowhere. Story seemed to move too fast and then it was over. 
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Kind of like a movie?

 
I need to see it again. I think I am disappointed a little because I was expecting more Vader based on the trailers and kevin smith's review. This was the opportunity to see Vader at his most feared and in action and they did not showcase or even allude to him enough imo.  

How do the rebels find Jyn but the imperials dont know who they have?  Why destroy Jeda city?  We didnt need the rebel fleet just flying off everywhere all the time either. 

I did like it though. While i watched it i was thinking how this is a really well done and good movie. But then as it progressed I realized the vader opportunity had passed and thinking back on the film I have questions. 

 
Two minor complaints from me:

1. When they show the Death Star blowing up Jeddha, why is the satellite dish (the part that shoots the rays) at the bottom? Wouldn't that mean the Death Star is upside down or am I missing something?

2. What happened to all the Death Troppers after this? They looked so badass and could actually aim when they shoot, so why didn't the Empire keep them?

 
MattFancy said:
Two minor complaints from me:

1. When they show the Death Star blowing up Jeddha, why is the satellite dish (the part that shoots the rays) at the bottom? Wouldn't that mean the Death Star is upside down or am I missing something?
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The Death Star is in space. There is no upside down for people on it, just from the perspective of the planet. From the POV of the Death Star the planet would be above their horizon to create that view from the ground.

 
Buzzbait said:
Grand Moff Tarkin's appearance in the movie wasn't a big surprise but the fact that it was Peter Cushing via CGI caught me off guard. It was so seamless that while watching I thought it must be a real actor that had an uncanny resemblance.

Washington Post article on Peter Cushing CGI for Rogue One

Loved the movie. Tied in nicely with the lead up to New Hope without getting too nostalgic. As others have mentioned it's pretty dark and depressing without the melodramatic acting from the prequels (I'm talking to you Hayden Christensen).
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Watched it last night with my daughter and that CGI was the only thing that I *didn't* like in the movie.  It nagged at me every time he was on screen.

 
As a very casual fan who didn't know Cushing was dead (or at least didn't make the connection to his character in the film).... I had no idea it was CGI through the movie. 

 
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As a very casual fan who didn't know Cushing was dead (or at least didn't make the connection to his character in the film).... I had no idea it was CGI through the movie. 
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And that's what they're going for. Not the mega-fan comic book store owner. 

 
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My wife had no idea either. During the movie I whispered "that guy has been dead for 25 years" and she said "so they filmed all of this in the 70s?"

 
Capella said:
My wife had no idea either. During the movie I whispered "that guy has been dead for 25 years" and she said "so they filmed all of this in the 70s?"
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Yeah, I told the boys that when we were walking out and they were amazed. 

I really don't understand how anyone could have a problem with this movie.  It was just awesome.  And like I said, this is everything that Jedi should have been.  The battle scene on the beach is what we should have gotten in a battle on Endor - not muppets with rocks.  Seriously, not only did I love this movie, but it made me hate Lucas and the prequels and the lost potential of Jedi.

 
I thought maybe they'd found a look-alike and altered him slightly with makeup or computers or used old footage (this became less likely the more he was on screen, obviously.)  I leaned in to my wife and said : "They did something there, to create this Tarkin we're seeing...." and she cut me off with : "Yeah, it's called CGI.  Welcome to 2016, numbnuts."

Ahhhhh, marriage,

 
MattFancy said:
2. What happened to all the Death Troppers after this? They looked so badass and could actually aim when they shoot, so why didn't the Empire keep them?
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Gotta have some new toys to buy the kiddos for Christmas!

(I agree they're awesome looking)

 
Yankee23Fan said:
Yeah, I told the boys that when we were walking out and they were amazed. 

I really don't understand how anyone could have a problem with this movie.  It was just awesome.  And like I said, this is everything that Jedi should have been.  The battle scene on the beach is what we should have gotten in a battle on Endor - not muppets with rocks.  Seriously, not only did I love this movie, but it made me hate Lucas and the prequels and the lost potential of Jedi.
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Me too. The prequels are just so awful in comparison. Some of the worst acting in a major movie release.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
I can't believe people are #####ing about the CGI faces. 

1. Tarkin's was noticeable but mostly bc any fan knows he's dead. It was still really well done.

2. Leia's at the end shocked me. I was sure they were going to be cute about it and not show her face, my jaw dropped. It looked exactly like a young, rosy-cheeked Carrie Fisher and was a perfect ending.

I'm way more curious how they nailed the voices. 

But either way it was awesome and opens up a lot of crazy possibilities in the future.
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Tarkin?

Edit to add I just looked him up on google and had no idea that guy was named Tarkin.  I remember him from the original movies and assumed they just got someone that looked like him and had no idea it was cgi.  

 
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Maybe a little.  But the scope of the battle, the fact that at first it looked like they were going to pull it off and get away with it and then all of the sudden the tides turned and they just got massively overgunned and outmanned... that is what Jedi should have been. 

 
Maybe it was the IMAX 3D, but I found Tarkin's CGI to be very reminiscent of Dobby the House Elf. The mouth movements seemed so artificial and distracting I couldn't quite concentrate on what the character was saying. I'd say the same thing about the Leia CGI, but then her botox job in TFA had the same effect, so I got over that quickly. Hopefully it won't stand out as much in 2D, or they'd be able to subtly enhance it for the 3D Blu-Ray Edition I will inevitably purchase.

But those are my only nits to pick. I thought it was fantastic. We saw Vader's house!!!

 
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Kumerica said:
Maybe it was the IMAX 3D, but I found Tarkin's CGI to be very reminiscent of Dobby the House Elf. The mouth movements seemed so artificial and distracting I couldn't quite concentrate on what the character was saying. I'd say the same thing about the Leia CGI, but then her botox job in TFA had the same effect, so I got over that quickly. Hopefully it won't stand out as much in 2D, or they'd be able to subtly enhance it for the 3D Blu-Ray Edition I will inevitably purchase.

But those are my only nits to pick. I thought it was fantastic. We saw Vader's house!!!
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I saw it 2d... not as distracting. but there was definitely something off about them- skin tone for both had a strange kind of glow relative to actual actors.

right- Vader's house... didnt' register while watching- cool.

 
Are you guys referring to Mustaphar about Vadar?  I don't think that was his home.

Mustaphar was used as a sanctuary by both Vadar and the Emperor to get more in touch with the dark side.  It is also the location that Vadar used to interrogate, and eventually execute the remaining jedi he hunted down after Revenge of the Sith.

 
I ####### loved it.  8.5/10, 4 out of 5 stars, massive erection during third act.  It was all of that.

As others have been posting about, I was floored by how well the Tarkin CGI was done.  I'll need to read the WP article about this.  The voicing and just the accuracy was very well done.  You can still tell it was CGI driven but it was very very close.  Leia at the end I thought wasn't as good but still pretty damn impressive.  You can also tell that many of the lines Tarkin used were pulled from a New Hope but they couldn't have mis-mashed all of that together without creating some more voicing.  Just astounding how they were able to pull that off.

Some of the pilots from A New Hope made an appearance during the 3rd act space battle (Scareth is the planet name?).  That was slightly cheesy as they also pretty much used the same exact lines from the Death Star attack in ANH.

Vader was used perfectly.  Although he is an absolutely MAJOR character in the Star Wars universe his appearances were perfectly timed and he wasn't over used.  You can tell that JEJ age is showing through in his voice over but he still killed it.  It was awesome.  Plus the final 5 mins of the movie...SKEET SKEET SKEET!

As far as character development.  Jyn seemed to be the only one to have any, which I was fine with.  I don't feel as if the others needed a lot of back story development anyways (for obvious reasons).

The battles, ground and air.  Fantastic.  Probably the best of all the movies.

Only real negative or nit-picking I can think of was the need to have Saul Guevera (Forest Whitaker) in the movie.  I get he rescued Jyn and helped raised her but other than capturing the Imperial pilot defector I didn't really get what his purpose was in the movie.

Exceeded my expectations by a lot.  I'd slot it in as the 3rd best movie behind ESB and ANH.  Thought it was better than TFA but it was close.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Are you guys referring to Mustaphar about Vadar?  I don't think that was his home.

Mustaphar was used as a sanctuary by both Vadar and the Emperor to get more in touch with the dark side.  It is also the location that Vadar used to interrogate, and eventually execute the remaining jedi he hunted down after Revenge of the Sith.
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Taken from the original drawings of Ralph McQuarrie, it's intended to be Vader's castle, and was confirmed to be his castle on Mustafar. Not saying you're wrong about it just being a sanctuary, but my guess is DV gets to have a few homes on different systems--perks of being the Emperor's favorite little Jedi Killer. Either way, it's really the first time we get to see him chillin' in his crib, rather than the Executor Super Star Destroyer, having a soak in the bacta tank. That he chooses to hang at the site of his phoenix-like rebirth, says a lot about him.

 
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ConnSKINS26 said:
I can't believe people are #####ing about the CGI faces. 

1. Tarkin's was noticeable but mostly bc any fan knows he's dead. It was still really well done.

2. Leia's at the end shocked me. I was sure they were going to be cute about it and not show her face, my jaw dropped. It looked exactly like a young, rosy-cheeked Carrie Fisher and was a perfect ending.

I'm way more curious how they nailed the voices. 

But either way it was awesome and opens up a lot of crazy possibilities in the future.
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Problem with CGI faces is that they go out of their way to convey every bit of detail on the face.  CGI faces often look crisper.  You could count the liver spots on the CGI Tarkin; something that you couldn't do if he were real.  

They need to make the CGI face incredibly detailed.....then put CGI actors makeup on it to help the CGI character blend in better.

Soem of you guys must be blind if you can't still see the difference. 

 
Kumerica said:
That he chooses to hang at the site of his phoenix-like rebirth, says a lot about him.
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This might be semantics but he was not truly reborn on Mustaphar.  He was almost killed on Mustaphar, taken from Mustaphar to Coruscant where the Emperor gave him his new form.

 
I'm absolutely giddy over the fact that it's possible I will see a new Star Wars movie every December for the rest of my life.

 
CentralPA said:
I ####### loved it.  8.5/10, 4 out of 5 stars, massive erection during third act.  It was all of that.

As others have been posting about, I was floored by how well the Tarkin CGI was done.  I'll need to read the WP article about this.  The voicing and just the accuracy was very well done.  You can still tell it was CGI driven but it was very very close.  Leia at the end I thought wasn't as good but still pretty damn impressive.  You can also tell that many of the lines Tarkin used were pulled from a New Hope but they couldn't have mis-mashed all of that together without creating some more voicing.  Just astounding how they were able to pull that off.

Some of the pilots from A New Hope made an appearance during the 3rd act space battle (Scareth is the planet name?).  That was slightly cheesy as they also pretty much used the same exact lines from the Death Star attack in ANH.

Vader was used perfectly.  Although he is an absolutely MAJOR character in the Star Wars universe his appearances were perfectly timed and he wasn't over used.  You can tell that JEJ age is showing through in his voice over but he still killed it.  It was awesome.  Plus the final 5 mins of the movie...SKEET SKEET SKEET!

As far as character development.  Jyn seemed to be the only one to have any, which I was fine with.  I don't feel as if the others needed a lot of back story development anyways (for obvious reasons).

The battles, ground and air.  Fantastic.  Probably the best of all the movies.

Only real negative or nit-picking I can think of was the need to have Saul Guevera (Forest Whitaker) in the movie.  I get he rescued Jyn and helped raised her but other than capturing the Imperial pilot defector I didn't really get what his purpose was in the movie.

Exceeded my expectations by a lot.  I'd slot it in as the 3rd best movie behind ESB and ANH.  Thought it was better than TFA but it was close.
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One thing I just saw is that his name is actually 'Saw'.  Thought it was Saul/Sol myself during the movie.

Also, the Saw Gerrera / Che Guevara thing was good, if not a little heavy handed.

 
Worm said:
One thing I just saw is that his name is actually 'Saw'.  Thought it was Saul/Sol myself during the movie.

Also, the Saw Gerrera / Che Guevara thing was good, if not a little heavy handed.
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Yeah, I miss-spelled it.  I wasn't sure what it was.  I do see the comparison between Saw and Che.

 
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