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*** Official *** Rogue One - A Star Wars Story (1 Viewer)

The "Jyn and Tie Fighter-rising-from-bottom-of-screen" shot in the trailer was indeed a Trailer Only shot with no intention of putting it in the movie.

That's how these trailers work quite often. What's cool for a trailer and what's good for the cut of the movie are not always the same exact thing.
Good info here 

 
Just got back from seeing it for the first time. Enjoyed it. The battle at the end made the movie.

One thing I couldn't get away from in watching the first half though. What the hell do Stormtroopers even wear armor for? It's never stopped a laser blast in any in the Star Wars movies, has it? And this movie establishes it won't even protect you from a man swinging a stick at your head. So what's it good for? Fist fights?

I was really hoping they'd have Kung Fu guy hit someone in the head with his staff and the Stormtrooper just stand there looking back at him with shrugging shoulders and a quizzical tilt to his head as if to say, "what the #### did you think that was going to accomplish?"

 
The "Jyn and Tie Fighter-rising-from-bottom-of-screen" shot in the trailer was indeed a Trailer Only shot with no intention of putting it in the movie.

That's how these trailers work quite often. What's cool for a trailer and what's good for the cut of the movie are not always the same exact thing.
While its cool in theory, I think its a bit disingenuous with a franchise like this. If this was the 1st time we are introduced to the SW universe, then yea, you can whack a few scenes and it not make a difference. But in movies like this—where you are dealing with a long history of ships and other items that people know and have attachments to—one of the draws of this movie is to see specifically those things again. So while yes, it was cool that we got to see the Tie Fighter in the movie, I'm sure some people said at that teaser scene "Holy ####, look at that tie fighter ready to attack" b/c we've never seen a Tie Fighter appear that aggressive outside a ship vs ship battle. 

I know I was the same way with the AT-ATs. I said earlier in this thread, before I saw the movie, that I was gonna lose it when I saw them on screen again b/c they were my favorite vehicles from all of the movies.  If they had cut them out, I would have been a bit upset. 

 

 
It's so strange to me that there are people who don't think "wow that's a technological marvel" and instead think how it's not a perfect replica of a person who has passed away. 

30 years ago this would've been immensely praised. People are jaded AF. 
30 years ago someone would have been burned for being a witch if they created that. 

 
If anyone is interested some one took the time to cut together all 46 shots from the various trailers and teasers that did not make the final movie

http://kotaku.com/every-rogue-one-shot-that-was-in-the-trailers-but-not-1790297993
Multiple vader cut. 
Leaving out her sassy backtalk was a tremendous cut. Trying to make the hero out to be some rebellious spirit is such a badly overdone Hollywood cliche that it sticks out like a sore thumb in a movie anymore. Leaving it out made it her feel a lot more like a real person.

 
Just saw the movie.  Not a huge star wars fan, thought this movie was technologically very good, but the plot was just OK.  It seems they took the emotional investment angle sorta for granted with fans being invested in the series to begin with, and didn't do a ton of character development...but that's fine...it's star wars after all.

- The graphics and all were stunning.
- That CGI bad guy or whatever was unnerving...I didn't know going in that it was going to be CGI or that he was dead, but when he had parts and spoke I couldn't help but think there was just something off with it.  Like a robot wearing a persons mask or something.  I was kinda expecting that to be a reveal toward the end but it makes more sense now.
- I thought the female lead looked an awful lot like the lady chef from Treme

First half of the movie I wasn't digging it...not really invested.  My wife asked me where all the characters were from the last star wars movie we saw.  She's not a huge star wars fan either but wanted to see the next chapter and didn't know what this one was going in.  

But by the end of it, we were both reasonably satisfied with our time spent watching it.

 
Leaving out her sassy backtalk was a tremendous cut. Trying to make the hero out to be some rebellious spirit is such a badly overdone Hollywood cliche that it sticks out like a sore thumb in a movie anymore. Leaving it out made it her feel a lot more like a real person.
Presume there was more backstory to her and that though that got cut. Her and saw having cuts probably contributed to feeling as if no character development and Cassian moving to her side too fast. Also seems he missions may have made more sense. Whatever. The reshoots were done to make it feel more like episode 7. 

 
Look at the first photo on Cushing's IMDB page and then tell me the CGI was too stiff.

i think all existing Cushing footage should be replaced with the CGI version.

 
I thought it was great.  Need to see it again but I think I like it more than TFA.

The last 45mins is the best action of any Star Wars movie IMO.  The prequels should simply not exist, this is enough pre-ANH for me.

Also more proof that Lucas is a horrible director.  Now we have 2 movies by other directors (this one by the guy who did friggin Godzilla) that are far superior with the same base material.

 
shadyridr said:
I dunno. It was pretty much the entire trailer that didnt make it in. Movie still rocked though. its just weird.
Most trailers are that way really. It's just, this is Star wars. We notice every second of the footage.

 
jon_mx said:
If Disney was smart they would declare the first three episodes were just a bad dream and completely remake them == $$$$$
So Fox owns all 6 of the original movies. They own episode 4 forever and the other 5 until 2020. Legally Disney couldn't do anything till then. Which would mean like 2025 or so before any remake was executed. By then it may not be worth their time when the majority of people that hate the prequels will all be 55 to 70 years old.  

 
So Fox owns all 6 of the original movies. They own episode 4 forever and the other 5 until 2020. Legally Disney couldn't do anything till then. Which would mean like 2025 or so before any remake was executed. By then it may not be worth their time when the majority of people that hate the prequels will all be 55 to 70 years old.  
I'd still buy my ticket for it today......especially if I can get a future early bird senior citizen discount.

 
So Fox owns all 6 of the original movies. They own episode 4 forever and the other 5 until 2020. Legally Disney couldn't do anything till then. Which would mean like 2025 or so before any remake was executed. By then it may not be worth their time when the majority of people that hate the prequels will all be 55 to 70 years old.  
From what I understand Fox owns the distribution rights(physical and digital) forever and the other 5 until 2020, but that is only the physical distribution for the other 5.  Disney controls the digital distribution for all but #4 right now.

Now these are just the physical distribution rights (ie being able to release again in Theater or release in a box set ect).  I don't quite understand if or how those rights would prevent Disney from remaking any of the movies if they wanted right now.  

Even though I don't think there is any indication Disney wants to re-make the movies, I don't think anything would prevent them from starting on #1 today and have it ready just in time for 2020 when the physical distribution rights transfer to Disney.

 
Most trailers are that way really. It's just, this is Star wars. We notice every second of the footage.
Come on now, most trailers are not like that.  They may have a scene or two missing from the movie but 95% of that trailer was not in the movie.  Again no big deal but stop twisting things. 

 
From what I understand Fox owns the distribution rights(physical and digital) forever and the other 5 until 2020, but that is only the physical distribution for the other 5.  Disney controls the digital distribution for all but #4 right now.

Now these are just the physical distribution rights (ie being able to release again in Theater or release in a box set ect).  I don't quite understand if or how those rights would prevent Disney from remaking any of the movies if they wanted right now.  

Even though I don't think there is any indication Disney wants to re-make the movies, I don't think anything would prevent them from starting on #1 today and have it ready just in time for 2020 when the physical distribution rights transfer to Disney.


seeing how Disney is currently in the mood to do live action remakes of every animated film from their vault, I wouldn't write off the idea of Disney getting an itch in 15 years to try to retell the origin story of the greatest villian in space.

 
Did you read what I wrote? This happens with trailers All. THE. TIME. It's only because it's Star Wars that anyone is giving a damn. Star Wars is serious business.
It's not serious business to me. I didn't even know who general tarkin was or that he died. 

 
Yeah I kept waiting for Vader to burst through the smoke and choke somebody. Never happened.  Didn't really bother me though.

 
seeing how Disney is currently in the mood to do live action remakes of every animated film from their vault, I wouldn't write off the idea of Disney getting an itch in 15 years to try to retell the origin story of the greatest villian in space.
Ok, I don't really "care" about things like this, but how do you just completely dismiss 3 major movies that grossed billions? 

 
Between the trailer whining and the reshoots drama it's like people are only learning for the first time how movies have been made for decades.

 
Ok, I don't really "care" about things like this, but how do you just completely dismiss 3 major movies that grossed billions? 
that's not dismissing it at all. It's turning money into MORE money.

Jungle Book did fine in original release. Was a fine animated classic. But they turned it into a newer, live action movie that brought them even MORE money for the same story. They'll do the same with many more animated classics in years to come.

A good story is the hardest part. With this live-action-remake kick, they already have a story people know and love but are just repackaging it as something new and shiny.

Share holders rejoice...

 
that's not dismissing it at all. It's turning money into MORE money.

Jungle Book did fine in original release. Was a fine animated classic. But they turned it into a newer, live action movie that brought them even MORE money for the same story. They'll do the same with many more animated classics in years to come.

A good story is the hardest part. With this live-action-remake kick, they already have a story people know and love but are just repackaging it as something new and shiny.

Share holders rejoice...
Yea but those live action movies are pretty similar to the cartoons and even then they don't follow a 1-9 episodic line. I don't know how you already have a 1-3 that supposedly leads into the rest of the series and then just unilaterally dismiss that as it not existing in favor of a new set. Just seems weird. 

 
One impressive thing is that people are loving this movie despite all the CGI...I don't have a problem with a sci-fi movie being chock-full of CGI but a large group of hardcore Star Wars fans are obsessed with the idea of "practical effects" and when JJ Abrams brought that back a lot more for TFA, people were stoked. 

Obviously the CGI used in the prequels was nowhere near this level AND was used very poorly, but its still good to see this franchise get the CGI monkey off its back and show that it can be used VERY effectively in the right hands.

No surprise really but I was glad to see there was no backlash for all the (necessary) CGI, coming off the success of TFA.

 
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One impressive thing is that people are loving this movie despite all the CGI...I don't have a problem with a sci-fi movie being chock-full of CGI but a large group of hardcore Star Wars fans are obsessed with the idea of "practical effects" and when JJ Abrams brought that back a lot more for TFA, people were stoked. 

Obviously the CGI used in the prequels was nowhere near this level AND was used very poorly, but its still good to see this franchise get the CGI monkey off its back and show that it can be used VERY effectively in the right hands.

No surprise really but I was glad to see there was no backlash for all the (necessary) CGI, coming off the success of TFA.
It also helps that 15 years of computer advancement has taken place since then as well. 

 
It also helps that 15 years of computer advancement has taken place since then as well. 


Of course. Like I said above, obviously the stuff in the prequels was nowhere near this level.

But it was also implemented terribly in the prequels. Almost everything CGI was shiny and sparkling new in a galaxy that had been shown as almost grungy and realistic 30 years earlier. A lot of people wrote that off by making it "headcannon" that the Imperial subjugation of the Republic, and subsequent rebellion, set technology, etc. back and we saw a less advanced galaxy in the middle of a war in the original trilogy...but really the prequels were just cartoonish the way things were perfect, bright, and shiny all the time. It was really bad, even setting aside the comparatively inferior technology of the time.

 
shadyridr said:
I dunno. It was pretty much the entire trailer that didnt make it in. Movie still rocked though. its just weird.
I love this. I already avoid trailers once  I decide I want to see a movie because they usually give away too much. Nice to see trailers being intriguing while still not ruining movies.

 
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Yea but those live action movies are pretty similar to the cartoons and even then they don't follow a 1-9 episodic line. I don't know how you already have a 1-3 that supposedly leads into the rest of the series and then just unilaterally dismiss that as it not existing in favor of a new set. Just seems weird. 
Take the basics of the plot lines. Toss the rest. Tons to play with there. Not saying they would, but seems it would be fairly easy to do. 

 
I love this. I already avoid trailers once  I decide I want to see a movie because they usually give away too much. Nice to see trailers being intriguing while still not ruining movies.
Yes - the solution is to not watch the trailer of a movie you're going to see. Then you won't know which parts of the trailer aren't in the movie.

 
GregR said:
Leaving out her sassy backtalk was a tremendous cut. Trying to make the hero out to be some rebellious spirit is such a badly overdone Hollywood cliche that it sticks out like a sore thumb in a movie anymore. Leaving it out made it her feel a lot more like a real person.
More Vader, more Saw, and more depth between Jyn and Cassian was alluded to in the trailers and would have helped imo.  

 
Saw it tonight. Thought it was pretty good, not great, not bad. Wanted more of the kung fu jedi, thought the robot was pretty funny, Vader stuff was sweet. 

It's nuts that Disney can roll out an ok movie tied to Star Wars and make a billion plus dollars a pop. Great investment by them.

 
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GregR said:
Just got back from seeing it for the first time. Enjoyed it. The battle at the end made the movie.

One thing I couldn't get away from in watching the first half though. What the hell do Stormtroopers even wear armor for? It's never stopped a laser blast in any in the Star Wars movies, has it? And this movie establishes it won't even protect you from a man swinging a stick at your head. So what's it good for? Fist fights?

I was really hoping they'd have Kung Fu guy hit someone in the head with his staff and the Stormtrooper just stand there looking back at him with shrugging shoulders and a quizzical tilt to his head as if to say, "what the #### did you think that was going to accomplish?"
Surely the year+ of publicity surrounding concussions and cte/ head trauma has sensitized audiences to the point that Disney wouldn't dare treat blows to the head as being any less serious than blaster fire...

 
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Was good not great.  Liked the ending.

Without the Force would have liked a heavier dose of the other aspects that make Star Wars great. Aliens and set design.  Something on par with the Jaba scenes from previous movies.

Not really any scenes nor battles that were iconic in this one.  The asian duo could have delivered more. The stick is lame.

That said I still liked it a lot.  

 
Was good not great.  Liked the ending.

Without the Force would have liked a heavier dose of the other aspects that make Star Wars great. Aliens and set design.  Something on par with the Jaba scenes from previous movies.

Not really any scenes nor battles that were iconic in this one.  The asian duo could have delivered more. The stick is lame.

That said I still liked it a lot.  
You didn't like the space battle?  That bit at the end with the ramming of the Star destroyer was cool. Unique too.  

 
Those first three movies were crud. I get wanting to build a new house to replace some pretty cruddy houses, but its on a foundation of poop. 

You can do a stand-alone Darth Vader movie that covers new territory, not three Decembers' worth of going back over the same old thing.

 
Watched it again.  First half kind of boring and confusing, second half awesome.  They coulda condensed the first hour into 20 minutes.

 
Those first three movies were crud. I get wanting to build a new house to replace some pretty cruddy houses, but its on a foundation of poop. 

You can do a stand-alone Darth Vader movie that covers new territory, not three Decembers' worth of going back over the same old thing.
Right. This is the better route IMO. A Vader movie and an Obi-Wan movie makes up for those and tells more interesting stories. I would bet this is the path they end up on. 

 

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