scoobygang
Footballguy
I've heard more hype for "the Boss" than for Lletget. Zahavi is a new name to me.
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prefontaine
Footballguy
2 kids from Grapevine? Really? Wonder what club team they played on. I may have to go meet that coach.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Greg Garza has been in Portugal since 2008. Tied with G.D. Estoril Praia. Garza played for the Dallas Texans as a youth.Alex Molano moved to Croatia in in 2009. Not sure what youth team he played for
prefontaine
Footballguy
My nephew was searching for a club team recently and joined the Texans. Hmmmm....next time I go to a game I'll try to ask about Garza.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Your nephew must be an excellent player. The Texans are typically one of the top clubs in the country at most age groups.
prefontaine
Footballguy
He's 10. I have no idea how you can tell how a kid will develop at that age? He wants to play pro though so yeah it was a big deal making the team.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
What about Gale Agbossoumonde? Looks like he might be playing with Garza, but do you know what club he played for in Syracuse? We used to play Syracuse all the time....they were one of the big 4 upstate premier teams back in my day
ldman:...Buffalo Premier, Rochester Rhinos, Syracuse, and Broome County.
The Gator
Footballguy
Liverpool places 4th, book itDefinitely should have taken Christo up on the Liverpool vs. Newcastle bet.
They'll be in 5th sitting on 21pts after the weekend. Tottenham can't handle CL and EPL...and with a little luck Man City will come apart at the seems like they've show signs of already....
SofaKings
Footballguy
Make up for the missed call earlier?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
He played at Christian Brothers Academy before moving to Bradenton. After Bradenton, Miami FC signed him to a 3 year deal. Miami has recently loaned him out to Sporting Braga.Steve Tasker said:What about Gale Agbossoumonde? Looks like he might be playing with Garza, but do you know what club he played for in Syracuse? We used to play Syracuse all the time....they were one of the big 4 upstate premier teams back in my dayNewlyRetired said:
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Interesting argument it seems like we could have for the rest of our lives.
Which is more "American", boy born here but moves to another country at a young age (like Zahavi), or a kid like Boss, who was born in another country but moved here around 9 years old...
Seems like we are going to have an abundance of both sets going forward.
Which is more "American", boy born here but moves to another country at a young age (like Zahavi), or a kid like Boss, who was born in another country but moved here around 9 years old...
Seems like we are going to have an abundance of both sets going forward.
Eephus
Footballguy
depends who's the better player
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
honesty is the best policydepends who's the better player
Bonzai
Footballguy
depends who's the better player
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Sorry, I meant youth team. CBA is a very strong sports high school/prep school...same school that produced the Paulus brothers, among numerous other college/pro athletes in various sports.He played at Christian Brothers Academy before moving to Bradenton. After Bradenton, Miami FC signed him to a 3 year deal. Miami has recently loaned him out to Sporting Braga.Steve Tasker said:What about Gale Agbossoumonde? Looks like he might be playing with Garza, but do you know what club he played for in Syracuse? We used to play Syracuse all the time....they were one of the big 4 upstate premier teams back in my dayNewlyRetired said:
scoobygang
Footballguy
SoccerbyIves is reporting that Agudelo and Mikkel Diskerud will be in the senior squad picked for the South Africa friendly and that The Boss is also a strong possibility.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Presale today for the second leg of the women's playoff v. Italy - Saturday Nov. 27 at Toyota Park:
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
What happened to Jack Mac? Has he fallen out of favor in the national picture? He had a nose for the goal in limited action with the Union this season.Speaking of the Union, news came out a few days ago that Danny Mwanga will not be graduated from Generation Adidas status this year and therefore will not have to be protected for the upcoming expansion draft. Great news for us - we need as much help as possible.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
not sure. He came to the country as a 10 year old I think and played for CBA as a freshman (14 years old?) before going to Bradenton. I don't know who he played for between when he came and when he played for CBASorry, I meant youth team. CBA is a very strong sports high school/prep school...same school that produced the Paulus brothers, among numerous other college/pro athletes in various sports.He played at Christian Brothers Academy before moving to Bradenton. After Bradenton, Miami FC signed him to a 3 year deal. Miami has recently loaned him out to Sporting Braga.Steve Tasker said:What about Gale Agbossoumonde? Looks like he might be playing with Garza, but do you know what club he played for in Syracuse? We used to play Syracuse all the time....they were one of the big 4 upstate premier teams back in my dayNewlyRetired said:
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
not sure about Jack. This is not the final roster by any means for the World Cup and Rongen tends to try out numerous players before settling on a roster.I think it is smart for both the Union and for Mwanga himself to remain with the Union. He is too young to be changing teams so soon.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
No question that the Union would keep Mwanga as long as possible, but IMO if he plays lights out next season he's going to Europe. He's already on record as saying his dream is to play in France. Personally, since I know he's likely not long for MLS, I hope he stays at least until he gets his US citizenship and gets capped.
derek245583
Footballguy
Just got finished watching...Mancini is a sackless cowherd. How about they try and win a ####### home game for once. They better get someone that refuses to play defense in the window or City wont make the CL...AGAIN.What a poor showing by the City players...the fans did their part.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Also, my best-dressed remarks about Mancini may have been a bit off. Chris Hughton gave him a run for his money today...
derek245583
Footballguy
lol, freudian imo
The Gator
Footballguy
Offa
Footballguy
It's a rememberance day poppy.is that an ###penny on his lapel?
In Flanders fields the poppies blowBetween the crosses, row on row,It's a rememberance day poppy.is that an ###penny on his lapel?
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Oh, please. The truth of the matter is he's one of the best. And by being one of the best, he refs a lot of the games we get to see. I bet you couldn't name two other refs without looking them up, yet 10 are out there every week.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I don't claim to know a lot about the different referees, but I think Howard Webb is consistently excellent. The WC final earlier this year had to be one of the most difficult challenges I've ever seen for a referee in any sport, with unfathomable pressure, and he did an excellent job in my opinion.
prefontaine
Footballguy
Roster
Goalkeepers: Dominic Cervi (Glasgow Celtic, Scotland), Brad Guzan (Aston Villa, England)
Defenders: Gale Agbossoumonde (Estoril Praia, Portugal), Nat Borchers (Salt Lake), Jonathan Bornstein (Tigres, Mexico), Clarence Goodson (Brondby, Denmark), Eric Lichaj (Aston Villa, England), Tim Ream (New York), Jonathan Spector (West Ham, England)
Midfielders: Alejandro Bedoya (Orebro, Sweden), Brian Carroll (Columbus), Mikkel Diskerud (Stabaek, Norway), Eddie Gaven (Columbus), Logan Pause (Chicago), Robbie Rogers (Columbus)
Forwards: Juan Agudelo (New York), Teal Bunbury (Kansas City), Robbie Findley (Salt Lake)
Anyone wanna give me a scouting report on the bolded? Also, absolutely fantastic to be getting Bunburry and Diskerud capped for the US.
Goalkeepers: Dominic Cervi (Glasgow Celtic, Scotland), Brad Guzan (Aston Villa, England)
Defenders: Gale Agbossoumonde (Estoril Praia, Portugal), Nat Borchers (Salt Lake), Jonathan Bornstein (Tigres, Mexico), Clarence Goodson (Brondby, Denmark), Eric Lichaj (Aston Villa, England), Tim Ream (New York), Jonathan Spector (West Ham, England)
Midfielders: Alejandro Bedoya (Orebro, Sweden), Brian Carroll (Columbus), Mikkel Diskerud (Stabaek, Norway), Eddie Gaven (Columbus), Logan Pause (Chicago), Robbie Rogers (Columbus)
Forwards: Juan Agudelo (New York), Teal Bunbury (Kansas City), Robbie Findley (Salt Lake)
Anyone wanna give me a scouting report on the bolded? Also, absolutely fantastic to be getting Bunburry and Diskerud capped for the US.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
We're going Bunburying!!!
The Gator
Footballguy
What does knowing many refs have to do with knowing is this guy has been shaky of late?Christo said:
I know three:
Howard Webb
The guy Fergie called fat
That bald guy
I think Webb had a bad world cup final and his last handful of matches I have seen, he's been bad. The AC Milan/Real Madrid game was a joke. I think he's becoming too famous and is more interested in being the player's friend rather than reffing.
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NewlyRetired
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We have talked about Tim Ream a lot in this thread if you go back a ways.He is lanky ball playing central defender. We likened him earlier to a young Carlos Bocanegra (and not just because they are both lefties). Ream was drafted in the second round this year but ended up starting all 30 matches for the Red Bulls. Both his coach and Henry were extremely impressed with his skills.prefontaine said:
The US has an abundance of nice young central defenders and I am confident that some of them should pan out at the international level. Ream is my favorite of them because I like a ball playing defender but he certainly still has a ways to go. That being said he is about the same level Bocanegra was was Boca was a rookie in MLS.
Juan Agudelo is a very interesting player. He is only 17 and I believe he holds the distinction of being the very first player to be produce by an MLS academy to play in the MLS playoffs, in which I believe he started for Red Bull recently. He is another of the many transplants we have. Born in Colombia, but moved here when he was a kid (8 or 9 I think). He is a 6'+ thinish striker who has some obvious ball skills. He is a very interesting prospect. Might be too young to factor in this cycle, but smart to get him involved asap as I am sure he would likely be eligible for Colombia as well.
Brian Carroll is a solid MLS player, defensive midfielder by trade. But at 29, and being light years behind players like Bradley, Edu, he is not going to factor in any current or future cycle unless we see a bunch of midfielders get hurt.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Unless I am mistaken, I don't think this game will cap tie either player to the US. It is just a friendly.But I get confused on the rules to be honest.prefontaine said:
prefontaine
Footballguy
Thanks for the breakdown. I now remember the Ream discussion. It is a friendly and the way the rule is right now I believe if you play in a friendly, you have to file paperwork a la Castillo or Germany Jones. It doesn't forever tie you but since we all know FIFA has been known to change the rules it's smart. Plus now players have to make a big show of changing federations and aren't likely to do it unless they are simply not in our plans. If you've never been capped in a senior friendly, you can be "recruited" to play in the other country a lot easier imo.
NMYMND
Footballguy
Race to Host in 2022 Getting Interesting
The United States’ bid to host the 2022 World Cup has come under fresh threat thanks to a surprising surge of support for rival bidder Qatar.
U.S. Soccer had been feeling pretty good about its prospects for the Dec. 2 decision, but has been rocked by the recent revival of a Qatar bid that is still under investigation for alleged collusion but continues to gain backing within the 24-member FIFA Executive Committee nonetheless.
The United States’ bid to host the 2022 World Cup has come under fresh threat thanks to a surprising surge of support for rival bidder Qatar.
U.S. Soccer had been feeling pretty good about its prospects for the Dec. 2 decision, but has been rocked by the recent revival of a Qatar bid that is still under investigation for alleged collusion but continues to gain backing within the 24-member FIFA Executive Committee nonetheless.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I was watching Ream quite a bit when he came into Philly for the final home game of the season. He doesn't look super impressive physically when you see him in person as opposed to someone like Omar Gonzalez, but he plays the game very intelligently, pretty consistently makes the correct decisions with his passing and clearing out from the back, he's good in the air and he plays very calm at the back. I think he eventually becomes a mainstay for the Nats.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
this is a fair evaluation.Interesting that you mentioned Gonzalez, as he is almost the opposite of Ream. Strong in the air and on tackles and a physical specimen. I could easily see Gonzo and Ream playing together much they way Gooch and Boca did (similar sizes, skills, strengths etc).
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Agreed - Gonzalez is just a monster who just physically stifles attacks up the middle - I think they would pair up nicely.
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