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This could be.....interesting.C'mon Basel

This could be.....interesting.C'mon Basel

Just trying to repay me after his mediocre performance on my World Cup fantasy teamFREI

City is out too so I don't see it helping much.Hopefully the early drops don't adversely effect the four CL slots for England. A case could be made for Italy getting their 4th spot back.wowI guess MUFC can concentrate on the EPL now. Lotta ground to make up suckers!
And they get to play each other in the next round of the FA Cup.Manchester, so much to answer for
England's been comfortably on top in the coefficients. Worst case they drop to #2 behind Spain.Hopefully the early drops don't adversely effect the four CL slots for England. A case could be made for Italy getting their 4th spot back.
Just trying to repay me after his mediocre performance on my World Cup fantasy teamFREI![]()
sitting here watching with a buddy and i mention that, too. He was a bum
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I suspected the EPL was overrated, but this is absolutely shocking

I see that now. It's pretty rare for two English teams to go out so early because of the depth in the EPL, but even this year Serie A is the only league that has three teams advancing, everybody else is at two.England's been comfortably on top in the coefficients. Worst case they drop to #2 behind Spain.Hopefully the early drops don't adversely effect the four CL slots for England. A case could be made for Italy getting their 4th spot back.
Cheer up United - there's always the Europa League![]()
Take a look at Pablito Aimar of BenificaThis Shaqiriri dude is going to get a good look for a spot on my all short guys team![]()
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I suspected the EPL was overrated, but this is absolutely shocking and this confirms it

yes! He is already on my squad with Messi, Silva, Di Natale, Rossi, and Xavi to name a few.I may not win many air balls with this groupTake a look at Pablito Aimar of BenificaThis Shaqiri dude is going to get a good look for a spot on my all short guys team![]()
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Definitely a B team for Bayern.
That would be nice, but it would take a few years of this happening for that to take place.Hopefully the early drops don't adversely effect the four CL slots for England. A case could be made for Italy getting their 4th spot back.

Criticism of Donovan born of jealousy, ignorance
That glorious stretch from the fall of 2009 through the summer of ’10 was supposed to end the debate and quash the criticism. After all, what more could Landon Donovan have done?
Donovan resolved his differences with David Beckham, captained the L.A. Galaxy to the MLS Cup final and won his first league MVP award, putting to rest any questions about his maturity and ability to lead.
Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Brad Friedel, an American, criticized Landon Donovan's decision to play in the U.S. rather than take on a club career in Europe. (AP photo)
Then in January ’10 he went on loan to Everton of the English Premier League and quickly established himself as a starter. He scored two goals in 13 appearances and was named the club’s player of the month for January. Donovan wanted to stay longer, but the Galaxy insisted he return.
That summer, Donovan rose to the biggest occasion at all. Tainted in the minds of many by his miserable ’06 World Cup, he made amends in South Africa.
Donovan was the U.S. team’s best player across the four matches and scored three of the biggest goals in American soccer history. He kick-started the vital comeback against Slovenia with an emphatic run and finish shortly after halftime, put the U.S. into the knockout stage with his iconic strike against Algeria and coolly finished the penalty kick that sent the round-of-16 match vs. Ghana into overtime.
Donovan was clutch. He was professional. He was more than good enough to excel at the highest level. Time to move on.
Except in the mind of a U.S. national team legend who benefitted considerably from Donovan’s exploits. On Tuesday, Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Brad Friedel took to the BBC World Service airwaves to discuss Clint Dempsey, who just the day before had broken the record for goals by an American in the English Premier League.
Along with celebrating Dempsey’s accomplishment, Friedel used the opportunity to take a stunning swipe at another former U.S. teammate.
“You get a player like a Landon Donovan, who in my opinion chose to take the easy road and stay in the States. It’s much harder to ply your trade over here,” Friedel told the BBC. “(The Premier League) is the best league in the world to play in, and this is where (Dempsey) got better in my opinion. This is where he became one of the best the United States ever produced.”
As for Donovan?
“The profiling in the States sometimes is a lot more to do with sponsorships than what you actually do on the field," he said. "And listen, I’m not trying to take anything away from Landon because Landon has been absolutely magnificent for the U.S. as well. I’m just saying he gets a lot more notoriety because it’s sponsorship-driven over there.”
Hey, Landon! You’re a coward and you’re famous because you pitch Gatorade. No offense, OK?
The numbers are well known. At 29 years of age, Donovan has been capped 138 times and has scored 46 goals in a U.S. jersey, by far the most of any player. He has competed in three World Cups, scored a record five goals and won three CONCACAF Gold Cup titles.
Come to think of it, that’s probably why Donovan is famous.
But Friedel’s jab was as much, or even more, about Donovan’s club career as it was about his supposedly undeserved fame.
When Donovan was 17, he signed with Germany’s Bayer Leverkusen. It didn’t work out and he was back in MLS with the San Jose Earthquakes a little more than a year later, in ’01. He returned to Leverkusen in early ’05, played a few games and then when his original contract finally expired he signed permanently with the L.A. Galaxy.
Those “failures”—the first of which occurred when Donovan was a homesick teenager and the second of which barely constitutes a useful sample size—have stained Donovan’s pro career in the minds of many.
And it’s grossly unfair.
Putting aside the personal and lifestyle issues that might prompt a grown man to have a preference about where he lives and works, there is the common, self-hating refrain from many American soccer fans (and one player) who insist that MLS is too easy or that it ####### a player’s development.
Donovan was unavailable to comment while returning from the Galaxy’s Pacific exhibition tour, but it would be fascinating to hear his take on how easy it must to be the poster boy for American soccer.
Donovan is expected to be a dominant figure on the field for both club and country—every time out—and a marketing focal point off of it. The eyes of the public, the media and the opposition are on him constantly while the significant wear and tear of a physical, parity-driven MLS played in a country the size of Europe has surprised just about every foreigner who’s given it a chance.
Is the standard as high as the Premier League? Of course not.
To argue, however, that Donovan has had it “easy” as he’s worked diligently for the better part of a decade to build the sport in the U.S. is ungrateful. To argue that performing at such a consistently high level—not to mention winning four championships—in a taxing competition like MLS, amid such pressure and expectation, simply is ignorant.
If MLS stunted a player’s development, it sure didn’t show when Donovan was saving the U.S. in South Africa, or scoring the two goals in the ’02 World Cup that helped Friedel and the U.S. reach the quarterfinals. (Incidentally, the Americans’ two least-embarrassing players at the ’06 World Cup debacle in Germany were Dempsey and defender Jimmy Conrad. Both were MLS players at the time.)
Donovan’s reasons for re-signing with the Galaxy in ’09 are his own. But the claims that he cheated himself and/or American soccer by staying in MLS must stop. The sport and league are better because of his decision, and the pining from Everton fans hoping to have him back is testament to the fact Donovan is more than good enough to thrive in the old world.
As for Friedel? The 40-year-old has had a remarkable 14 years in England and deserves respect, despite his regrettable comment this week.
But it’s worth noting that he played just one game for the U.S. following that ’02 World Cup and left the national team for good after the spring of ’04. Friedel was in his early 30s, still young for a goalkeeper. Maybe he wanted to concentrate on his lucrative club career at the expense of playing for his country. Maybe he was tired of all the travel. Maybe he was reluctant to compete with Kasey Keller and the up-and-coming Tim Howard for minutes.
Maybe Friedel chose to take the easy road.
Europa League plays on Thursdays, do they'll both be playing weekend games on 1-2 days less rest after UEFA game days from here on out, for whatever that's worth.City is out too so I don't see it helping much..wowI guess MUFC can concentrate on the EPL now. Lotta ground to make up suckers!
I can't be sure but I would bet the line ups for the Europa games will be made up of a great deal of reserve level players and players not seeing much time in EPL games.Europa League plays on Thursdays, do they'll both be playing weekend games on 1-2 days less rest after UEFA game days from here on out, for whatever that's worth.City is out too so I don't see it helping much..wowI guess MUFC can concentrate on the EPL now. Lotta ground to make up suckers!
I think the author takes a few unwarranted liberties to support his bias as well. Calling Friedels comments a "stunning swipe" and saying he called LD a "coward", unfairly characterizes Friedel's comment IMO.Great article on a reporters response to Friedel calling out Donovan for taking the easy road in his career.
Criticism of Donovan born of jealousy, ignorance
That glorious stretch from the fall of 2009 through the summer of ’10 was supposed to end the debate and quash the criticism. After all, what more could Landon Donovan have done?
Donovan resolved his differences with David Beckham, captained the L.A. Galaxy to the MLS Cup final and won his first league MVP award, putting to rest any questions about his maturity and ability to lead.
Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Brad Friedel, an American, criticized Landon Donovan's decision to play in the U.S. rather than take on a club career in Europe. (AP photo)
Then in January ’10 he went on loan to Everton of the English Premier League and quickly established himself as a starter. He scored two goals in 13 appearances and was named the club’s player of the month for January. Donovan wanted to stay longer, but the Galaxy insisted he return.
That summer, Donovan rose to the biggest occasion at all. Tainted in the minds of many by his miserable ’06 World Cup, he made amends in South Africa.
Donovan was the U.S. team’s best player across the four matches and scored three of the biggest goals in American soccer history. He kick-started the vital comeback against Slovenia with an emphatic run and finish shortly after halftime, put the U.S. into the knockout stage with his iconic strike against Algeria and coolly finished the penalty kick that sent the round-of-16 match vs. Ghana into overtime.
Donovan was clutch. He was professional. He was more than good enough to excel at the highest level. Time to move on.
Except in the mind of a U.S. national team legend who benefitted considerably from Donovan’s exploits. On Tuesday, Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Brad Friedel took to the BBC World Service airwaves to discuss Clint Dempsey, who just the day before had broken the record for goals by an American in the English Premier League.
Along with celebrating Dempsey’s accomplishment, Friedel used the opportunity to take a stunning swipe at another former U.S. teammate.
“You get a player like a Landon Donovan, who in my opinion chose to take the easy road and stay in the States. It’s much harder to ply your trade over here,” Friedel told the BBC. “(The Premier League) is the best league in the world to play in, and this is where (Dempsey) got better in my opinion. This is where he became one of the best the United States ever produced.”
As for Donovan?
“The profiling in the States sometimes is a lot more to do with sponsorships than what you actually do on the field," he said. "And listen, I’m not trying to take anything away from Landon because Landon has been absolutely magnificent for the U.S. as well. I’m just saying he gets a lot more notoriety because it’s sponsorship-driven over there.”
Hey, Landon! You’re a coward and you’re famous because you pitch Gatorade. No offense, OK?
The numbers are well known. At 29 years of age, Donovan has been capped 138 times and has scored 46 goals in a U.S. jersey, by far the most of any player. He has competed in three World Cups, scored a record five goals and won three CONCACAF Gold Cup titles.
Come to think of it, that’s probably why Donovan is famous.
But Friedel’s jab was as much, or even more, about Donovan’s club career as it was about his supposedly undeserved fame.
When Donovan was 17, he signed with Germany’s Bayer Leverkusen. It didn’t work out and he was back in MLS with the San Jose Earthquakes a little more than a year later, in ’01. He returned to Leverkusen in early ’05, played a few games and then when his original contract finally expired he signed permanently with the L.A. Galaxy.
Those “failures”—the first of which occurred when Donovan was a homesick teenager and the second of which barely constitutes a useful sample size—have stained Donovan’s pro career in the minds of many.
And it’s grossly unfair.
Putting aside the personal and lifestyle issues that might prompt a grown man to have a preference about where he lives and works, there is the common, self-hating refrain from many American soccer fans (and one player) who insist that MLS is too easy or that it ####### a player’s development.
Donovan was unavailable to comment while returning from the Galaxy’s Pacific exhibition tour, but it would be fascinating to hear his take on how easy it must to be the poster boy for American soccer.
Donovan is expected to be a dominant figure on the field for both club and country—every time out—and a marketing focal point off of it. The eyes of the public, the media and the opposition are on him constantly while the significant wear and tear of a physical, parity-driven MLS played in a country the size of Europe has surprised just about every foreigner who’s given it a chance.
Is the standard as high as the Premier League? Of course not.
To argue, however, that Donovan has had it “easy” as he’s worked diligently for the better part of a decade to build the sport in the U.S. is ungrateful. To argue that performing at such a consistently high level—not to mention winning four championships—in a taxing competition like MLS, amid such pressure and expectation, simply is ignorant.
If MLS stunted a player’s development, it sure didn’t show when Donovan was saving the U.S. in South Africa, or scoring the two goals in the ’02 World Cup that helped Friedel and the U.S. reach the quarterfinals. (Incidentally, the Americans’ two least-embarrassing players at the ’06 World Cup debacle in Germany were Dempsey and defender Jimmy Conrad. Both were MLS players at the time.)
Donovan’s reasons for re-signing with the Galaxy in ’09 are his own. But the claims that he cheated himself and/or American soccer by staying in MLS must stop. The sport and league are better because of his decision, and the pining from Everton fans hoping to have him back is testament to the fact Donovan is more than good enough to thrive in the old world.
As for Friedel? The 40-year-old has had a remarkable 14 years in England and deserves respect, despite his regrettable comment this week.
But it’s worth noting that he played just one game for the U.S. following that ’02 World Cup and left the national team for good after the spring of ’04. Friedel was in his early 30s, still young for a goalkeeper. Maybe he wanted to concentrate on his lucrative club career at the expense of playing for his country. Maybe he was tired of all the travel. Maybe he was reluctant to compete with Kasey Keller and the up-and-coming Tim Howard for minutes.
Maybe Friedel chose to take the easy road.
There will be a lot of Sunday games in Greater ManchesterI can't be sure but I would bet the line ups for the Europa games will be made up of a great deal of reserve level players and players not seeing much time in EPL games.Europa League plays on Thursdays, do they'll both be playing weekend games on 1-2 days less rest after UEFA game days from here on out, for whatever that's worth.City is out too so I don't see it helping much..wowI guess MUFC can concentrate on the EPL now. Lotta ground to make up suckers!
Both teams have the depth to platoon to some degree, true, but I don't think either will overtly tank in the Europa league either.I can't be sure but I would bet the line ups for the Europa games will be made up of a great deal of reserve level players and players not seeing much time in EPL games.Europa League plays on Thursdays, do they'll both be playing weekend games on 1-2 days less rest after UEFA game days from here on out, for whatever that's worth.City is out too so I don't see it helping much..wowI guess MUFC can concentrate on the EPL now. Lotta ground to make up suckers!
I read Friedels comments before I read the article and I have to admit that I kind of took the tone of the comments to be pretty much the same as the author. Friedel was way way off base here IMO. I think he could have made what ever his point was better. He should have just stuck with singing Dempseys praises instead of going out of his way to throw Landon under the bus.I think the author takes a few unwarranted liberties to support his bias as well. Calling Friedels comments a "stunning swipe" and saying he called LD a "coward", unfairly characterizes Friedel's comment IMO.Great article on a reporters response to Friedel calling out Donovan for taking the easy road in his career.
Criticism of Donovan born of jealousy, ignorance
That glorious stretch from the fall of 2009 through the summer of ’10 was supposed to end the debate and quash the criticism. After all, what more could Landon Donovan have done?
Donovan resolved his differences with David Beckham, captained the L.A. Galaxy to the MLS Cup final and won his first league MVP award, putting to rest any questions about his maturity and ability to lead.
Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Brad Friedel, an American, criticized Landon Donovan's decision to play in the U.S. rather than take on a club career in Europe. (AP photo)
Then in January ’10 he went on loan to Everton of the English Premier League and quickly established himself as a starter. He scored two goals in 13 appearances and was named the club’s player of the month for January. Donovan wanted to stay longer, but the Galaxy insisted he return.
That summer, Donovan rose to the biggest occasion at all. Tainted in the minds of many by his miserable ’06 World Cup, he made amends in South Africa.
Donovan was the U.S. team’s best player across the four matches and scored three of the biggest goals in American soccer history. He kick-started the vital comeback against Slovenia with an emphatic run and finish shortly after halftime, put the U.S. into the knockout stage with his iconic strike against Algeria and coolly finished the penalty kick that sent the round-of-16 match vs. Ghana into overtime.
Donovan was clutch. He was professional. He was more than good enough to excel at the highest level. Time to move on.
Except in the mind of a U.S. national team legend who benefitted considerably from Donovan’s exploits. On Tuesday, Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Brad Friedel took to the BBC World Service airwaves to discuss Clint Dempsey, who just the day before had broken the record for goals by an American in the English Premier League.
Along with celebrating Dempsey’s accomplishment, Friedel used the opportunity to take a stunning swipe at another former U.S. teammate.
“You get a player like a Landon Donovan, who in my opinion chose to take the easy road and stay in the States. It’s much harder to ply your trade over here,” Friedel told the BBC. “(The Premier League) is the best league in the world to play in, and this is where (Dempsey) got better in my opinion. This is where he became one of the best the United States ever produced.”
As for Donovan?
“The profiling in the States sometimes is a lot more to do with sponsorships than what you actually do on the field," he said. "And listen, I’m not trying to take anything away from Landon because Landon has been absolutely magnificent for the U.S. as well. I’m just saying he gets a lot more notoriety because it’s sponsorship-driven over there.”
Hey, Landon! You’re a coward and you’re famous because you pitch Gatorade. No offense, OK?
The numbers are well known. At 29 years of age, Donovan has been capped 138 times and has scored 46 goals in a U.S. jersey, by far the most of any player. He has competed in three World Cups, scored a record five goals and won three CONCACAF Gold Cup titles.
Come to think of it, that’s probably why Donovan is famous.
But Friedel’s jab was as much, or even more, about Donovan’s club career as it was about his supposedly undeserved fame.
When Donovan was 17, he signed with Germany’s Bayer Leverkusen. It didn’t work out and he was back in MLS with the San Jose Earthquakes a little more than a year later, in ’01. He returned to Leverkusen in early ’05, played a few games and then when his original contract finally expired he signed permanently with the L.A. Galaxy.
Those “failures”—the first of which occurred when Donovan was a homesick teenager and the second of which barely constitutes a useful sample size—have stained Donovan’s pro career in the minds of many.
And it’s grossly unfair.
Putting aside the personal and lifestyle issues that might prompt a grown man to have a preference about where he lives and works, there is the common, self-hating refrain from many American soccer fans (and one player) who insist that MLS is too easy or that it ####### a player’s development.
Donovan was unavailable to comment while returning from the Galaxy’s Pacific exhibition tour, but it would be fascinating to hear his take on how easy it must to be the poster boy for American soccer.
Donovan is expected to be a dominant figure on the field for both club and country—every time out—and a marketing focal point off of it. The eyes of the public, the media and the opposition are on him constantly while the significant wear and tear of a physical, parity-driven MLS played in a country the size of Europe has surprised just about every foreigner who’s given it a chance.
Is the standard as high as the Premier League? Of course not.
To argue, however, that Donovan has had it “easy” as he’s worked diligently for the better part of a decade to build the sport in the U.S. is ungrateful. To argue that performing at such a consistently high level—not to mention winning four championships—in a taxing competition like MLS, amid such pressure and expectation, simply is ignorant.
If MLS stunted a player’s development, it sure didn’t show when Donovan was saving the U.S. in South Africa, or scoring the two goals in the ’02 World Cup that helped Friedel and the U.S. reach the quarterfinals. (Incidentally, the Americans’ two least-embarrassing players at the ’06 World Cup debacle in Germany were Dempsey and defender Jimmy Conrad. Both were MLS players at the time.)
Donovan’s reasons for re-signing with the Galaxy in ’09 are his own. But the claims that he cheated himself and/or American soccer by staying in MLS must stop. The sport and league are better because of his decision, and the pining from Everton fans hoping to have him back is testament to the fact Donovan is more than good enough to thrive in the old world.
As for Friedel? The 40-year-old has had a remarkable 14 years in England and deserves respect, despite his regrettable comment this week.
But it’s worth noting that he played just one game for the U.S. following that ’02 World Cup and left the national team for good after the spring of ’04. Friedel was in his early 30s, still young for a goalkeeper. Maybe he wanted to concentrate on his lucrative club career at the expense of playing for his country. Maybe he was tired of all the travel. Maybe he was reluctant to compete with Kasey Keller and the up-and-coming Tim Howard for minutes.
Maybe Friedel chose to take the easy road.
Jesus, an already young and talented team gets even younger. Very cool. Do you know if he is a DP for salary or for transfer fee?There are two levels to the youth DP in terms of the cap hitAges 21 to 23: $200,000.20 or younger: $150,000.Looks like the Union will have the honor of popping the cherry on MLS' new "Young Designated Player" category with the signing of 21-year old forward and Costa Rica international Josue Martinez from Saprissa.Love the Young DP rule, only carries a cap hit of $200k. Reports are that the Union paid $500k for the transfer. Hopefully this paves the way for similar young talent signings in MLS.
As it turns out, Novak just came out and said that Martinez will NOT be a DP, and that allocation money the team received from last year's Carlos Ruiz sale will go towards Martinez's cap hit. It's gotta be a ton of allocation money if the reports are true about paying Saprissa half a mil for the transfer.Jesus, an already young and talented team gets even younger. Very cool. Do you know if he is a DP for salary or for transfer fee?There are two levels to the youth DP in terms of the cap hitAges 21 to 23: $200,000.20 or younger: $150,000.Looks like the Union will have the honor of popping the cherry on MLS' new "Young Designated Player" category with the signing of 21-year old forward and Costa Rica international Josue Martinez from Saprissa.Love the Young DP rule, only carries a cap hit of $200k. Reports are that the Union paid $500k for the transfer. Hopefully this paves the way for similar young talent signings in MLS.
The allocation money is a huge item in building teams now. And unlike the salary cap, the amount varies from team to team and is very hard to follow who has what assets available to spend. I would prefer a more open system where the fans know what each team has to spend.As it turns out, Novak just came out and said that Martinez will NOT be a DP, and that allocation money the team received from last year's Carlos Ruiz sale will go towards Martinez's cap hit. It's gotta be a ton of allocation money if the reports are true about paying Saprissa half a mil for the transfer.Jesus, an already young and talented team gets even younger. Very cool. Do you know if he is a DP for salary or for transfer fee?There are two levels to the youth DP in terms of the cap hitAges 21 to 23: $200,000.20 or younger: $150,000.Looks like the Union will have the honor of popping the cherry on MLS' new "Young Designated Player" category with the signing of 21-year old forward and Costa Rica international Josue Martinez from Saprissa.Love the Young DP rule, only carries a cap hit of $200k. Reports are that the Union paid $500k for the transfer. Hopefully this paves the way for similar young talent signings in MLS.