CletiusMaximus
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Chelsea makes a strong bid for Aguero
but there are some sticking points regarding the youngster's salary demands
but there are some sticking points regarding the youngster's salary demands
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Mjolnirs
Footballguy
The Battery defeated Atlanta F.C. (an amateur side) 2-0 last night. Charleston scored at the 37 second mark to start the match.Atlanta had three players and their coach sent off.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
We got knocked out in our quest for the 2010 US Open Cup
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Hmm, I hadn't realized that the Atlanta Silverbacks had folded until now.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I guess the amateur side wasn't just "happy to be there". I love the US Cup.A team from teh Men's league I played in out in SF won the Cup a couple times in the 70s and maybe 80s. The Greeks... or Greek American FC ... something Greek.
El Floppo
Footballguy
T&P gb.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Couple of important CONCACAF games tonight:
El Salvador at Honduras
T&T at Mexico
Should be the turning point for El Salvador- can their home form continue, or will they fold up on the road. I think the latter. 2-0 Honduras.
Also the turning point for Mexico who I'm figuring to absolutely spank T&T at Azteca. 4-0.
El Salvador at Honduras
T&T at Mexico
Should be the turning point for El Salvador- can their home form continue, or will they fold up on the road. I think the latter. 2-0 Honduras.
Also the turning point for Mexico who I'm figuring to absolutely spank T&T at Azteca. 4-0.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
it sucked pretty bad.It was a few weeks ago on a Wednesday night, 6:30. We were supposed to have like 15 players (our roster is 18 or 19) and only 9 guys showed. We were playing against a team from a lower league (League 2 compared to our League 1, if you will) at home...should've been an easy win.Well, they had 14 players so we were playing 9v11....we managed to go up 1-0 in like the 20th.....the other team just wasn't good. They were pretty funny about it too, their guys were telling me that we would have kicked their asses 6-0 if we were 11v11....I'm not a cocky *******, but they're right. In like the 40th, we gave up a goal, and then they got a PK right before the half and converted. So we went into the half down 2-1.
Second half, we're applying major pressure, but they get a counterattack and a huge collision in our box in the 63rd....penalty called on us, but it's worse - our captain breaks his arm on the play. Out for the season.
Game is delayed for like 20 minutes while they wait for paramedics (standard procedure, I guess....the guy was alright once we stabilized his arm). So now, it's getting dark. We're playing 8v11.....and they miss the PK. The ref decides that we're only playing 15 more minutes...we pour on the pressure, hit the post twice, and lose 2-1 after only 78 minutes.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Sure looks like that Chelsea offer was solid. I'm sure that 52m€ is something that Atlético is taking seriously. However, I really think that their CL hopes for next season will take a hard hit without el Kun. Furthermore, I think that IF el Kun goes, then it may be likely that Forlán goes as well. Forlán wants to win titles, and he may think that without el Kun, that hope is dead. Pongolle didn´t show a GD thing this year, and Luis García is a shell of his former self.
If either one of Forlán or Kun goes, they will have to pick up another quality striker in order to compete. If they don't, Atlético is staring at 8-10th place in La Liga next season.
If either one of Forlán or Kun goes, they will have to pick up another quality striker in order to compete. If they don't, Atlético is staring at 8-10th place in La Liga next season.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Just in case anyone wants to see a few pics, I was at the Chicago vs. Houston game last Friday. Hopefully the pics linked from Facebook work. My camera kinda sucks too...
Pregame huddle
Celebration after Stuart Holden's goal
Halftime
Fire fans light some flares
McBride looks frustrated
Pregame huddle
Celebration after Stuart Holden's goal
Halftime
Fire fans light some flares
McBride looks frustrated
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Wow. So Real is getting Kaka and C. Ronaldo? Geez.
Texas Football
Footballguy
Who will ManU go after to play CRonaldos spot? As a Liverpool fan I am liking this!
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Yeah...I honestly don't understand how they comeup with that money, but more power to them.In other news Setanta looks like its in trouble and looking to sell their US channel (they owe the EPL 30 million pounds by Monday for rights). ESPN is out now saying they aren't interested in the US operations/channel, but isn't commenting on interest in EPL rights (which in pr speak means they want the EPL rights, but not the channel). Interestingly the article in the Guardian article said its US operations are profitable which frankly surprised me. So I guess FoxSoccer and GolTV must also be profitable in some form.
Moe.
Footballguy
I had no idea Onyewu was leaving Standard Liege, this article says he is probably going to Birmingham City. SL will be in the Champions League next year, so I was excited about him getting that opportunity, but getting a chance to play in the EPL every week should be nice. Hopefully it works out better for him this time around. Any other high profile national team guys looking to relocate this summer?
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Kljestan to Celtic, maybe?
scoobygang
Footballguy
Ribery, I would think. And they could probably get Benzema and another player (maybe a central midfielder) with the leftovers.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Breaking the transfer record twice in one week? 
I don't really think any two players are actually worth 160 million euros in transfer fees, no matter how good.
As to where Real is getting this kind of money: Perez announced that he had up to 250 euros to spend this transfer season. It is widely believed that this comes on loans. Of course, how he can get that type of credit in the economic situation of today(particularly in Spain) is anybody's guess.
I don't really think any two players are actually worth 160 million euros in transfer fees, no matter how good.
As to where Real is getting this kind of money: Perez announced that he had up to 250 euros to spend this transfer season. It is widely believed that this comes on loans. Of course, how he can get that type of credit in the economic situation of today(particularly in Spain) is anybody's guess.
scoobygang
Footballguy
If they didn't want to pay the MLS transfer fee last year, I doubt they'd do it this year (with Sasha out of form with both Chivas and the National Team).
scoobygang
Footballguy
I just wonder how Kaka and CR7 help that shaky defense.Breaking the transfer record twice in one week?I don't really think any two players are actually worth 160 million euros in transfer fees, no matter how good.As to where Real is getting this kind of money: Perez announced that he had up to 250 euros to spend this transfer season. It is widely believed that this comes on loans. Of course, how he can get that type of credit in the economic situation of today(particularly in Spain) is anybody's guess.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
It seems that Real is STILL in negociations for David Villa, rumored to be around 32m€. I don't think they have the capital to pull that one off, but wow what a lineup that would be.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I was just reading an article the other day about how teams that have a ton of debt are starting to have problems. I forget which Spanish team it was (I want to say Valencia, but I'm not sure)....but they're in trouble I guess. Putting the team up for sale, can't pay the bills, etc.Breaking the transfer record twice in one week?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I am pretty sure that Real has the clout to get any type of capital they ask for.That is an impressive lineup, but how much better is it really than the players they have there currently?In the attack they have:Gonzalo Higuaín Raúl Klass Jan Huntelaar Arjen Robben Wesley SneijderRuud van NistelrooyCertainly no slouches and their offense was not their weak point. Would those three really be 200 million euros better?
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
A lot of 4-3 finishes at the Bernabeu next year...I just wonder how Kaka and CR7 help that shaky defense.Breaking the transfer record twice in one week?I don't really think any two players are actually worth 160 million euros in transfer fees, no matter how good.As to where Real is getting this kind of money: Perez announced that he had up to 250 euros to spend this transfer season. It is widely believed that this comes on loans. Of course, how he can get that type of credit in the economic situation of today(particularly in Spain) is anybody's guess.
scoobygang
Footballguy
I have to admit that I didn't watch much soccer from 2003 to 2007 or so (except for the World Cup). Which means that I missed Kaka's Champions League heroics for AC Milan. So I have to admit that from what I've seen in the past two years, I find Kaka kind of overrated.
He's certainly a very good box to box midfielder. But he wouldn't have made my Best XI in the last two years.
He's certainly a very good box to box midfielder. But he wouldn't have made my Best XI in the last two years.
Native
Footballguy
Don't completely disagree with you, even though he IS a wonderful player. That said, his pass to Crespo in the CL final vs Liverpool was one of his crowning moments as a player and probably the single play that sticks out in most peoples minds. People come to expect that kind of magic every week but thats usually not the case.
scoobygang
Footballguy
That's why I was surprised when ESPN lost the Champions League. They routinely run all the major European League results on their crawls. A soccer play makes the Top Plays segment regularly. Its clear they're positioning themselves for some type of European League, IMO. I still think the UEFA leagues should band together and sell a "European Game of the Week" package for American audiences. I know I would watch that, and I have plenty of friends who weren't interested in soccer until they saw the very best players.
Robben is always hurt, ugh!I have not heard any word yet on who they will be on the prowl for, but there are a few more holes to be attended to also.Ideally, I wouldn't mind Ribery coming over - but I heard he isn't going anywhere for any type of reasonable transfer. Tevez may not be back, Giggs and Scholes are about at the end of the line, Van der Saar is at the end of the line.Earlier there was talk of Sergio Ramos coming over - that would be a nice back four with Evra/Rio/Vidic/Ramos - not sure if that is in the works any more.I guess we'll see how it plays out. Perhaps Berbatov will now be given the freedom to extend his play (as last year he was used much more in a setup role and asked to get the ball into the attack to Rooney and Ronaldo).
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Ribery would terrorize the Arsenal defense all day...
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I'm watching The Price is Right and they're spinning the big wheel.
Woman spins wheel
Drew (while wheel spins): So, where are you from?
Woman: Seattle!
Drew: Seattle? Go Sounders!
Woman gives him a blank stare. Awkward silence.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Like I noted earlier today, with the current Setanta mess I wouldn't be shocked if they end up with Setanta's EPL rights if not outright owning them. ESPN doesn't comment on this issue if they weren't extremely interested.
brewer
Footballguy
Drew's used to that kind of reception though...
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I'd settle for another 6-2 finish.A lot of 4-3 finishes at the Bernabeu next year...I just wonder how Kaka and CR7 help that shaky defense.Breaking the transfer record twice in one week?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I think they will certainly keep Tevez now. I wouldn't worry too much, Manchester has the deepest squad around.Personally, I am a fan of Dimitar and hope to see him be able to play his game with United if they don't bring in someone else up top.
I'm not quite worried, cupboards aren't exactly barren for sure.It is tough to lose arguably the best player in the world when he is what, 22 years old? I'm not sold Tevez would/should come back. He would add nice depth, but the skills he possesses don't replace what was lost in Ronaldo. Berbatov has some of those skills.And of course, there is plenty of money now to be spent. Lets not forget about Zoran Tosic, nor the 18 year old Brazillian twins either (Rafael made a small impact last year, where Fabio made nothing). Also, Chelsea and Liverpool seem to have added some quality established depth.Wouldn't mind seeing Pato coming to Old Trafford, I love the way that guy plays...when he does get his head into the game at least.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Well Ronaldo is 24 years old. So you must be talking about Messi, who turns 22 this month.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I wonder what EPL rights Setanta has. It seems to be a unique sharing arrangement of sorts with Fox, but Fox seems to carry more games, so I wonder exactly how it is divvied up.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
June 11 (Reuters) - Manchester United have accepted a world record bid of 80 million pounds ($131.7 million) from Real Madrid for Portuguese winger Cristiano Ronaldo, the English champions said on Thursday.
United, who fended off the Spanish club’s interest in the World and European Player of the Year 12 months ago, have given the nine-times European champions the go-ahead to talk to him.
But what else can buy for 80 million pounds?
Here are a few ideas:
* As many as 1.31 million Apple iPhones.
* You can buy 93 Bugatti Veyron cars, each costing 850,000 pounds ($1.4 million).
* It can fly a person to the International Space Station three times, with spare change of more than 15 million pounds.
* You can buy a Big Mac for the entire population of Canada.
* It can buy around 138,000 ounces of gold.
* It could buy you 80 per cent of the 100 million pounds being sought for the purchase of English Championship (second division) club Newcastle United.
United, who fended off the Spanish club’s interest in the World and European Player of the Year 12 months ago, have given the nine-times European champions the go-ahead to talk to him.
But what else can buy for 80 million pounds?
Here are a few ideas:
* As many as 1.31 million Apple iPhones.
* You can buy 93 Bugatti Veyron cars, each costing 850,000 pounds ($1.4 million).
* It can fly a person to the International Space Station three times, with spare change of more than 15 million pounds.
* You can buy a Big Mac for the entire population of Canada.
* It can buy around 138,000 ounces of gold.
* It could buy you 80 per cent of the 100 million pounds being sought for the purchase of English Championship (second division) club Newcastle United.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Bayern's asknig price for Ribery was reported to be 65 mil. euros. The difficulty in replacing Cronaldo is that he is a dynamic winger and an extremely prolific goal-scorer, so very difficult to replace his production with one player. Ribery may come closest to filling that role. A Robben/Schneider duo would be a massive let-down on both roles in my opinion.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Real should've bought 80% of Newcastle and turned them into a foreign academy to funnel players to the big club
Desert_Power
Footballguy
He looked pretty magical during his Champions League run and deserved every bit the accolades he received for it. In the two years since he has played well, but not well enough to even be in consideration for a Best XI side. I would think that when you are paying 70 million euros in a transfer fee you would want to be getting a player that was.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Robben was OK, Sneijder was a disappointment, RVN is getting long in the tooth, and Raúl, other than the fact that I hate him, is ancient and in his death throes of a career. I think that 2 out of Huntelaar, Sneidjder, and Robben are on the outs. The "Dutch Experiment" at Real is fast coming to a close. They'll WANT out, especially if they really do land Villa.They'll keep Higuaín I think, and lord knows that Guti isn't going anywhere.It sure looks like Real reloaded to take on Barça. Should make for an interesting season in la Liga. Ronaldo will get to match up against Puyol at least 2x more, which alone I think will be intriguing.What would Real's starting lineup be if they land Villa?4-4-2?
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Footballguy
I always thought that Kaka was criminally overshadowed in the media by Ronaldinho for a few years. He never really got the credit he was due, at least in the American media, IMO. There were a few years where he was probably the best in the world..
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I forgot that Real also has Javier Saviola. There's a glut of attacking talent on that squad, and I'm SURE that some of those guys want out.
Maybe there's an opportunity for Atlético if they do end up selling either el Kun or Forlán.
Maybe there's an opportunity for Atlético if they do end up selling either el Kun or Forlán.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
If the price is 65 mil, then I think the market shrinks to just Real Madrid. I cannot see another club paying that. Barca looks like they will lose interest when it is north of 40.I disagree that Robben/Schneider would be a let down if brought into Manchester. I think they are both very dangerous players, particularly when they are on the pitch together. I likely rate them higher than most, but in the 07/08 campaign they were a nightmare to play against.
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