andy_b
Footballguy
they were from the run of play but he doesn't play for the US. I am talking about US goals, not their oppositions goals.
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The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
The second goal against Mexico was a pretty good one too, O'Brien to Lewis to Donovan. Quaranta's goal was so nice because it was a string of passes executed under pressure in tight spaces, something which the US has almost always been unable to execute. That was well done, and it was great for me to see Davies delivering the final pass because I have certainly questioned his vision during the Confed Cup. Seeing the US pull off a goal like that after their good play against Spain and Brazil has me almost too excited. I hope the US can carry some of this play over to the qualifiers.
R. Jay Soward
Footballguy
Ohhhh I get it....you're saying the last 13 goals that the US has scored was during the run of play. I thought you were saying that they had scored 13 consecutive during the run of play without giving one up, which is where I was getting hung up...
andy_b
Footballguy
correct! I am only talking about how we have scored.I have not done the research but instinct tells me there have not been many streaks higher than 13 in the US' history in terms of consecutive run of play goals.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Now that we're all in agreement here
, this to me has been the most exciting development of the summer. After the Italy and 1st Brazil game, I read some comments calling our team the United Set-Pieces of America. The ability to score goals from free play against established teams, combined with our strong organization on set-pieces. Now we're getting somewhere!
Sebowski
Footballguy
His lack of speed or burst definitely showed last night. He had at least four opportunities to attack a good ball and he just didn't get there. I'm glad they tried him up front though. Good to see him moved around to see where he fits in best. I was hoping Davies was coming in for Ching as Ching was having a terrible game himself up to that point. Would have liked to see Adu and Davies together. Keeping Ching turned out to be a right move as that header was awesome. The only guy falling faster down the depth chart than Adu imo is Sacha.
The oterh side of this is they ahven't done much on set pieces.
R. Jay Soward
Footballguy
Sacha is either really good or really bad. Last year/early this year, he was really good. Lately, he's been really, really bad.
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
I missed watching a lot of last night's match, but had it on in the background as I did stuff around the house. What the hell was wrong with that announcer? I have never heard an announcer get so excited, nearly to the point of screaming, on a play that doesn't even result in a shot on goal. And then when the US finally scored, he screams "YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!" to the point where his voice was actually cracking. I realize that it's the US feed to US fans, but when did that a) become acceptible and b) anyone in their right mind would commentate like that? I've never seen that level of homerism from announcers, and I've seen some White Sox games.
R. Jay Soward
Footballguy
Max Bretos is like "the guy" at FSC. He did the Grenada game too.
He does a lot of the Argentinian games that they show. He's clearly bilingual, as you can hear the Spanish twang in his voice when he pronounces Spanish names.
I don't really mind him, actually. He's not great, but it's better than nothing.
He does a lot of the Argentinian games that they show. He's clearly bilingual, as you can hear the Spanish twang in his voice when he pronounces Spanish names.
I don't really mind him, actually. He's not great, but it's better than nothing.
andy_b
Footballguy
This is a fair point, but as a developing nation I think it is better to see the US scoring from the run of play instead of Gooch or Boca winning a header on a corner that causes a scramble for a goal.I don't think we are going to lose our set piece instinct, but developing the confidence to string together passes to score is going to take us from a marginal top 20 team to a marginal top 12ish team.Drunken Cowboy said:
prefontaine
Footballguy
Just fyi, that's the last we will see of Adu this year probably as he heads back to Benifica for training camp (this was prearranged, not a reaction to his play). I hope he has a good year and if so, maybe he will get some time in some friendlies leading up to the Cup.
Benny also headed out to Denmark presumably for the same reasons. I think Bradley told them both they better earn regular playing time with the club team if they want to be on the WC roster. If he stays healthy, I can't imagine that will be a problem for Benny given how he's looked.
Benny also headed out to Denmark presumably for the same reasons. I think Bradley told them both they better earn regular playing time with the club team if they want to be on the WC roster. If he stays healthy, I can't imagine that will be a problem for Benny given how he's looked.
andy_b
Footballguy
Benny looks to be able to provide the technical ability that only John O'Brien was able to provide (in the monumentally small windows that his glass like body was not injured)
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
I mainly watch the EPL, so yeah, I guess that is what I am used to.
Kendall
I heart waffles
Spanish annoucers are much more fun. In college, my roommates and I would turn on the Spanish commentary while playing FIFA just to hear "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!" and "OSO OSO OSO OSO."
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
Yeah, I've heard Spanish announcers like that before. I guess I just never thought about that being basically the same as the guy on FSC last night, just in Spanish. It was still weird how he would raise his voice if any American player came anywhere close to the box. "DAVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (followed by a pass)
eagles2007
Footballguy
holy crap. did anyone else just see what i saw in the panama-mexico game? the mexican coach got a red card for kicking a panama player (basically in the groin) and the player reacted and drew a red. that's a hell of a tradeoff for the mexicans. it was almost like woody hayes.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Didn't see it. Must say I'm shocked though given what good sports the Mexican team tends to be.-QG
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Fixed? Or are you referring to something else?
Kendall
I heart waffles
Clearly I don't speak spanish. I just typed it out phonetically. I tried to google it first, but that didn't turn out so well. Thanks for correcting me.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
It is worth noting the role that Feilhaber played on both this goal and the first goal against Hondouras. He is really one of our most creative players.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Sure, I was just curious if they were yelling something else I hadn't heard previously.Definition of Golazo
Example of a Golazo
Kendall
I heart waffles
That is absurd. I would consider firing the guy for being that stupid.
R. Jay Soward
Footballguy
Kendall and friends:
"GOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLL BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR"
"GOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLL BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR"
Kendall
I heart waffles
Kentucky public schools didn't really put an emphasis on foriegn languages (or the english language really). I had one year of Spanish in the second grade, one year of Russian in the 4th grade (which consisted of what I now believe to be our Eastern European janitor playing us VHS tapes of Russian fairy tales), and three years of remedial French in high school where my friend and I drew cartoons with French captions that we centered around a character named "Doobie the Giant Blunt."Kendall and friends:"GOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLL BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR"
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I've always been partial to thisSure, I was just curious if they were yelling something else I hadn't heard previously.Definition of Golazo
Example of a Golazo
R. Jay Soward
Footballguy
Yeah, I posted that like 6 times in this thread, figured I'd let someone else post it this time.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I've always been partial to this
R. Jay Soward
Footballguy
Kentucky public schools didn't really put an emphasis on foriegn languages (or the english language really). I had one year of Spanish in the second grade, one year of Russian in the 4th grade (which consisted of what I now believe to be our Eastern European janitor playing us VHS tapes of Russian fairy tales), and three years of remedial French in high school where my friend and I drew cartoons with French captions that we centered around a character named "Doobie the Giant Blunt."Kendall and friends:"GOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLL BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR"
at the Russian Fairy Tales and Doobie the Giant Blunt
prefontaine
Footballguy
Looks like a few of our national team players are on the move. Davies reportedly heading to France to play for Sochaux. And Altidore got loaned out again by Villareal to Olympiakos. Both seem like pretty good moves and hopefully they both earn a lot of pt.
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
I couldn't figure out what he was writing... Thanks for the correction DP. I was thinking, is this something that I haven't heard before?Sure, I was just curious if they were yelling something else I hadn't heard previously.
Definition of Golazo
Example of a Golazo
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Just watched the Javier Aguirre clip. He obviously wasn't *trying* to kick the dude in the balls. This wasn't a Rooney stomp. He was trying to stop the Panamanian player from playing the ball out of bounds.
Not to defend him too much, but it's obvious that he's more comfortable using his feet than his hands to stop the momentum of an object and that's what he was trying to do. It surely wasn't malicious. Javier Aguirre isn't really a hothead AFAIK and never really got into it when he was coaching for Atlético in la Liga.
It was a pretty dumb move though and the red was deserved.
Not to defend him too much, but it's obvious that he's more comfortable using his feet than his hands to stop the momentum of an object and that's what he was trying to do. It surely wasn't malicious. Javier Aguirre isn't really a hothead AFAIK and never really got into it when he was coaching for Atlético in la Liga.
It was a pretty dumb move though and the red was deserved.
eagles2007
Footballguy
its also a great tradeoff. coach for player and team has to play a man down?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Do you have a link to Jozy's move that isn't on goal.com?There may not be a worse site out there.
R. Jay Soward
Footballguy
Here's a Greek article - but I can't read it
, it might be based on the goal.com article.Apparently Olympiakos supporters are livid with this move. And they seem to think they'll be playing a 4-5-1 this year with Altidore as the 3rd or 4th option up top.Hopefully that's not the case, but I don't know much about them. They have Matt Derbyshire and Diogo who are apparently 1 and 2 for them. They both had decent numbers in limited action last year, but I only barely remember Derbyshire from his Blackburn days.
But then again, nothing's official. Villarreal and Olympiakos aren't reporting it, but they aren't denying it. No word whatsoever, last I heard.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
It appears that Javier Pastore is going to sign for Palmero from Argentinian club Huracan. Word is that he turned down from United to go there. Keep this kid in the back of your mind, he looks like he could be something special.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Thanks, goal normally takes there articles from local tabloid sources. I haven't seen anything on this in the American, Brittish, or Spanish press which their would be if this has happened yet. Goal.com reports every rumor as if the move is imminent, you have to be careful about believing it.Here's a Greek article - but I can't read it
Hopefully that's not the case, but I don't know much about them. They have Matt Derbyshire and Diogo who are apparently 1 and 2 for them. They both had decent numbers in limited action last year, but I only barely remember Derbyshire from his Blackburn days.
But then again, nothing's official. Villarreal and Olympiakos aren't reporting it, but they aren't denying it. No word whatsoever, last I heard.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Villarreal lost both Nihat and Guille Franco this offseason. Jozy was 5th on the depth chart behind those two. Rossi and Llorente were the starters and they usually played a 4-4-2. Being 3rd on their depth chart would mean that Jozy would see some action, starting in some games and comin on as a sub in others. Sure we'd like to see him get regular starting PT, but being 3rd on a team like Villarreal wouldn't be too shabby.
This is assuming that they don't pick up another striker.
Ooops... I just read that they recently signed Jonathan Pereira, which would mean that Jozy is 4th. Disregard the above paragraphs. Hopefully they loan him out to a club that starts him. Olympiakos wouldn't be that club. He's better off at Villarreal.
This is assuming that they don't pick up another striker.
Ooops... I just read that they recently signed Jonathan Pereira, which would mean that Jozy is 4th. Disregard the above paragraphs. Hopefully they loan him out to a club that starts him. Olympiakos wouldn't be that club. He's better off at Villarreal.
Don't really know. But I haven't seen most of them before.
Bonzai
Footballguy
Who scored?
Should they replay that a few more times so the announcers can really be sure it was the right call?
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