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This is so strangeRonaldinho has a ton of international goals for Brazil and hasn't played that many games. I'd venture a guess that he's in the top 2-3 in gpg for Brazil in history. Robinho has been awful all year and I don't see a miraculous turn around in the next 3 months. Elano is also no where near the class of player of Ronaldinho. Obviously I'm speculating here, but I can't see anyway that Ronaldinho isn't selected. He's been very, very good all year long for Milan. I can see Fabiano as one striker, but not selecting Ronaldinho would be a mistake, imho.
Ronaldinho had a significantly worse year last year than Robinho. It's easy to forget how out of it Ronaldinho had been in the last two years. He had an indifferent last year at Barca and then a disaster with Milan. He didn't look particlarly good in the Olympics. When prefontaine (I think) predicted he'd have a huge year for Milan this year, a bunch of guys in this thread called him out on it. Dinho is still an indifferent defender. He lacks pace. And, of course, Brazil is literally stacked with talent. Ronaldinho has also never played all that well with Kaka (such as in the last World Cup), as they both need the ball.
 
Anyone watch the Bayern v Fiorentina game?

I'm curious to hear thought on the calls that the announcers had such issues with.

Obviously I'm a Bayern homer and I would like to hear unbiased thoughts.

#1 the red against Gobbi. They didn't show the best of views, but it looked to me like Gobbi's elbow did come up.

#2 Klose's goal. On the initial shot Klose was in an offside position, but it was a passive offside and not called. When the keeper knocked it back into play Olic headed it to Klose who was still in an offside position, but when Olic played the ball he, the ball and klose were all past the defenders. Doesn't that eliminate the offside call?

 
Anyone watch the Bayern v Fiorentina game?I'm curious to hear thought on the calls that the announcers had such issues with.Obviously I'm a Bayern homer and I would like to hear unbiased thoughts.#1 the red against Gobbi. They didn't show the best of views, but it looked to me like Gobbi's elbow did come up.#2 Klose's goal. On the initial shot Klose was in an offside position, but it was a passive offside and not called. When the keeper knocked it back into play Olic headed it to Klose who was still in an offside position, but when Olic played the ball he, the ball and klose were all past the defenders. Doesn't that eliminate the offside call?
Clearly offside.A player is in an offside position if he is in his opponents' half of the field and is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the next to last opponent. It has nothing to do with Olic's position.
 
Anyone watch the Bayern v Fiorentina game?

I'm curious to hear thought on the calls that the announcers had such issues with.

Obviously I'm a Bayern homer and I would like to hear unbiased thoughts.

#1 the red against Gobbi. They didn't show the best of views, but it looked to me like Gobbi's elbow did come up.

#2 Klose's goal. On the initial shot Klose was in an offside position, but it was a passive offside and not called. When the keeper knocked it back into play Olic headed it to Klose who was still in an offside position, but when Olic played the ball he, the ball and klose were all past the defenders. Doesn't that eliminate the offside call?
Clearly offside.A player is in an offside position if he is in his opponents' half of the field and is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the next to last opponent. It has nothing to do with Olic's position.
The ball is the factor I was forgetting. I knew they could both be past the last defender, but I forgot they both have to be behind the ball too.
 
The last goal was clearly an offside. Even Van Gaal said it after the game.

 
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I'm 58 minutes into the Arsenal game and I'd appreciate no spoilers, but I have to say that this may be the single worst game I've EVER seen a GK play in a game. I hate broad sweeping generalizations, but given the fact that Almunia is the starter and that Mannone has played reasonably well, IMO, Fabianski should never see the field again for Arsenal except in crap cup ties against awful opponents....not Champions League round of 16 matches against teams like Porto...
I was saying the same thing as I was watching it. Mannone was just signed to a long term deal and so was the 19 year old Polish kid(who's name is escaping me at the moment). It might simply be a vote of confidence from the manager, but Wenger said that the 19 year old will definitely play in the first team. They also have an 18 year old English kid named Shea to provide depth. All of this, in addition to an unforgivable game in the Champions league, should spell the end for Fabianski. Could he have recovered from one of those gaffes, probably... but both in the same game... doubtful.
 
I'm 58 minutes into the Arsenal game and I'd appreciate no spoilers, but I have to say that this may be the single worst game I've EVER seen a GK play in a game. I hate broad sweeping generalizations, but given the fact that Almunia is the starter and that Mannone has played reasonably well, IMO, Fabianski should never see the field again for Arsenal except in crap cup ties against awful opponents....not Champions League round of 16 matches against teams like Porto...
I was saying the same thing as I was watching it. Mannone was just signed to a long term deal and so was the 19 year old Polish kid(who's name is escaping me at the moment). It might simply be a vote of confidence from the manager, but Wenger said that the 19 year old will definitely play in the first team. They also have an 18 year old English kid named Shea to provide depth. All of this, in addition to an unforgivable game in the Champions league, should spell the end for Fabianski. Could he have recovered from one of those gaffes, probably... but both in the same game... doubtful.
Yeah- woof. Those were two absolute howlers.But he also had some nice saves mixed in too. :thumbup: I doubt his career at Arsenal is going to hang in the balance based on this one game- regardless of the huge-ousity of those mistakes. If every player- especially keepers- were judged on one specific bad game, there'd be nobody left to play.
 
Anyone watch the Bayern v Fiorentina game?

I'm curious to hear thought on the calls that the announcers had such issues with.

Obviously I'm a Bayern homer and I would like to hear unbiased thoughts.

#1 the red against Gobbi. They didn't show the best of views, but it looked to me like Gobbi's elbow did come up.

#2 Klose's goal. On the initial shot Klose was in an offside position, but it was a passive offside and not called. When the keeper knocked it back into play Olic headed it to Klose who was still in an offside position, but when Olic played the ball he, the ball and klose were all past the defenders. Doesn't that eliminate the offside call?
Clearly offside.A player is in an offside position if he is in his opponents' half of the field and is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the next to last opponent. It has nothing to do with Olic's position.
The ball is the factor I was forgetting. I knew they could both be past the last defender, but I forgot they both have to be behind the ball too.
Sorry- in a nitpicky mood I guess- but to be clear, they don't both have to be behind the ball; only the player receiving the pass must. :bag:
 
I am a newcomer to this thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned. A new independent film is being debuted at SXSW and it sounds worth checking out.

Pelada

On a day when the Champions League knockout rounds start, I wanted to draw your attention away briefly from the stadium lights to a marvelous new soccer documentary by four young Americans that I saw a sneak preview of on Monday. The film is called Pelada--the Brazilian term for pickup soccer--and it follows two former college standouts (Duke's Gwendolyn Oxenham and Notre Dame's Luke Boughen) as they visit 25 countries in search of pickup games and the stories of the people who play them.

The movie, which debuts at the prestigious South by Southwest Film Festival in Austin, Tex., on March 14, is a testament to the power of the world's game to dissolve the boundaries of gender, language and culture. Armed with a ball and a thirst for adventure, the Americans bribe their way into a Bolivian prison game, play for money in a Nairobi slum tournament and test the limits of Iranian authorities when Oxenham joins an all-male game in Tehran.

But what elevates Pelada from a cute highlight travelogue to something more resonant is the filmmakers' ability to find compelling stories and earn the trust of their interview subjects. "Once you play a game with someone, interview doesn't seem like the appropriate word," says Oxenham. "There's this level of intimacy that you don't get if you don't play soccer. Every place we went, you're then invited into their homes. Everyone's mother wants to cook for you."

"[Playing soccer] would change the situation from being an outsider having an interview with them to having a conversation with a friend," adds Boughen.

The result is a film that combines eye-popping cinematography (by co-directors Rebekah Fergusson and Ryan White) with human stories: the dreams of a teenage Brazilian girl nicknamed Ronaldinha; a lunchtime kickabout among workers building the Cape Town World Cup stadium; and an Italian writer who pens love poems to the sport. A tense game between Arabs and Jews in Jerusalem reveals the benefits (and very real challenges) that come with the sport.

Boughen and Oxenham are also clearly good players, and a running thread is the reaction in male-dominated soccer cultures to a woman who's eager to join them on the field. "It was funny because Luke would score three goals and nobody really cared because everyone can see he's a good [male] soccer player, but all I would have to do was a little pivot and everyone freaked out," says Oxenham. "There was very little negative reaction to me, except for maybe in Italy, where in a couple pickup games it was like, 'Who is this woman?' In Iran they passed the ball to me more than they did in any other country, whether I was in a good position or not, which was interesting to me."

The filmmakers financed their project by piecing together grants and contributions, but they're still raising money to cover costs after spending around $250,000 on the project. While they have done a deal with PBS International for the international rights, they're hoping that the buzz from the South by Southwest Film Festival and others (they have applied to the Tribeca Film Festival in New York City) will lead to a distribution deal with a U.S. studio or television channel.

For now, though, they're excited about their film finally making its public debut. "It's surreal," Oxenham says. "You spend three years and you've got 400 hours of footage and getting it down to 80 or 90 minutes tops, it feels like you're killing babies left and right. But it's great to see it shaping up into the thing that you always imagined from the beginning."

Yet being accepted into a major film festival isn't the only news for Oxenham and Boughen. After crisscrossing the globe together, they're getting married in June. Part of their honeymoon may involve a screening of Pelada in Cape Town during the World Cup.

You can find more information about Pelada (including a movie trailer and tax-deductible donations) at www.pelada-movie.com.
Sound great :bag: Like most of you guys I'm sure, I've played pickup soccer all over the place and have found no better way of being immediately taken in by the home-peeps.

 
This is so strangeRonaldinho has a ton of international goals for Brazil and hasn't played that many games. I'd venture a guess that he's in the top 2-3 in gpg for Brazil in history. Robinho has been awful all year and I don't see a miraculous turn around in the next 3 months. Elano is also no where near the class of player of Ronaldinho. Obviously I'm speculating here, but I can't see anyway that Ronaldinho isn't selected. He's been very, very good all year long for Milan. I can see Fabiano as one striker, but not selecting Ronaldinho would be a mistake, imho.
Ronaldinho had a significantly worse year last year than Robinho. It's easy to forget how out of it Ronaldinho had been in the last two years. He had an indifferent last year at Barca and then a disaster with Milan. He didn't look particlarly good in the Olympics. When prefontaine (I think) predicted he'd have a huge year for Milan this year, a bunch of guys in this thread called him out on it. Dinho is still an indifferent defender. He lacks pace. And, of course, Brazil is literally stacked with talent. Ronaldinho has also never played all that well with Kaka (such as in the last World Cup), as they both need the ball.
This has been a great series of follow-ups, guys :thumbup:I didn't know about Dungha's dislike for him, but it makes sense given the type of player Dungha was, and the type of team Brasil has become under his guidance (far more disciplined). I guess you can't argue with him as well as Brasil has been playing.As well as Ronaldinho's been playing, Scooby is totally right- his defensive abilities/interest are a liability if he's playing a true MF role. Leonardo seems to be letting him play as a withdrawn striker, albeit strictly on the flank, without much defensive responsibility- and he is clearly thriving in that role. I don't see Elano giving Brasil anything near what Dinho does offensively (and I like Elano), but he is a better two-way player. Robinho can be great, but he isn't exactly a defensive dynamo either. I don't know what happened with him and Kaka, but he's been making his entire attacking Milan team much, much better this year. As amazing as the Brasilians are, and how stacked they are with talent, there's nobody out there that's playing at Ronaldinho's level right now. It's insanity to me that there isn't room on the Brasil squad to at least have him come off the bench.
 
I'm 58 minutes into the Arsenal game and I'd appreciate no spoilers, but I have to say that this may be the single worst game I've EVER seen a GK play in a game. I hate broad sweeping generalizations, but given the fact that Almunia is the starter and that Mannone has played reasonably well, IMO, Fabianski should never see the field again for Arsenal except in crap cup ties against awful opponents....not Champions League round of 16 matches against teams like Porto...
I was saying the same thing as I was watching it. Mannone was just signed to a long term deal and so was the 19 year old Polish kid(who's name is escaping me at the moment). It might simply be a vote of confidence from the manager, but Wenger said that the 19 year old will definitely play in the first team. They also have an 18 year old English kid named Shea to provide depth. All of this, in addition to an unforgivable game in the Champions league, should spell the end for Fabianski. Could he have recovered from one of those gaffes, probably... but both in the same game... doubtful.
Yeah- woof. Those were two absolute howlers.But he also had some nice saves mixed in too. :sarcasm: I doubt his career at Arsenal is going to hang in the balance based on this one game- regardless of the huge-ousity of those mistakes. If every player- especially keepers- were judged on one specific bad game, there'd be nobody left to play.
I generally agree. However, he is already second string to Almunia(who has done fairly well this season and is certainly the current clear cut #1), he is 24 and at the stage in his career where he should be starting for somebody, and there are capable guys on the depth chart behind him. You may be right, this game may not have all that much to do with it in the grand scheme of things, but my guess is that he is employed elsewhere in the not too distant future.
 
Portsmouth Seek Leave to Sell Players Outside Window

By REUTERS

Published: February 18, 2010

LONDON (Reuters) - Debt-ravaged Portsmouth confirmed on Thursday they have asked if they can be allowed to sell players outside the transfer window.

The request to the Premier League has been passed to both the English FA and soccer's world governing body FIFA who will have the final say on whether to waive the rules in a move that could help Portsmouth survive.

"FIFA can confirm it has received correspondence from the FA relating to the financial situation at Portsmouth FC and the proposed measures to be taken in this respect," the governing body said in a statement.

FIFA will need to make a decision quickly if the proposed sales are to help Portsmouth who urgently need to raise funds so they can pay off some of their bills and creditors.

A spokesman for the club said: "I can confirm we have put in a request to the Premier League to sell players outside the transfer window. It is something we are exploring." The winter transfer window was open from January 1 to February 1 and clubs cannot sell players again until the next window opens after the end of this season.

Portsmouth, bottom of the Premier League, face a winding-up petition from the Government's Revenue and Customs office over an unpaid tax bill of 11.7 million pounds on March 1.

The club, which say two interested parties are potential buyers, lodged a Statement of Affairs with the High Court in London on Wednesday to prove they are still a solvent company.

If Portsmouth are wound-up the players contracts cease to be assets of the club and it would also lose its membership of the Premier League.

That would have a huge impact on the competition, with the points clubs have won against them this season deducted from their current totals.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/02/18/...portsmouth.htmlWow, talk about a precipitous fall. From FA Cup winner and UEFA Cup qualifier to near collapse in less than 2 years.

 
I generally agree. However, he is already second string to Almunia(who has done fairly well this season and is certainly the current clear cut #1), he is 24 and at the stage in his career where he should be starting for somebody, and there are capable guys on the depth chart behind him. You may be right, this game may not have all that much to do with it in the grand scheme of things, but my guess is that he is employed elsewhere in the not too distant future.
Almunia has been pretty shaky this season too. It's a pretty big difference between Arsenal and the other clubs with the same ambitions. It's really hard to argue that Almunia is as good as Van Der Sar. Or Cech (this season, he was really off last season). Or Reina. Or even Friedel, Howard, and Given. At best, Almunia is in a class with Jaskalainnen, Scharner, Robert Greene, and maybe Joe Hart. Those guys are decent keepers, but nobody thinks of them as centerpieces of a championship team.
 
I generally agree. However, he is already second string to Almunia(who has done fairly well this season and is certainly the current clear cut #1), he is 24 and at the stage in his career where he should be starting for somebody, and there are capable guys on the depth chart behind him. You may be right, this game may not have all that much to do with it in the grand scheme of things, but my guess is that he is employed elsewhere in the not too distant future.
Almunia has been pretty shaky this season too. It's a pretty big difference between Arsenal and the other clubs with the same ambitions. It's really hard to argue that Almunia is as good as Van Der Sar. Or Cech (this season, he was really off last season). Or Reina. Or even Friedel, Howard, and Given. At best, Almunia is in a class with Jaskalainnen, Scharner, Robert Greene, and maybe Joe Hart. Those guys are decent keepers, but nobody thinks of them as centerpieces of a championship team.
No argument that Almunia isn't that great. But what does that say about Fabianski? He can't beat out a mediocre keeper and when he gets a shot on the top stage, he makes 2 of the worst keeping mistakes that Arsenal has seen in quite some time.
 
I generally agree. However, he is already second string to Almunia(who has done fairly well this season and is certainly the current clear cut #1), he is 24 and at the stage in his career where he should be starting for somebody, and there are capable guys on the depth chart behind him. You may be right, this game may not have all that much to do with it in the grand scheme of things, but my guess is that he is employed elsewhere in the not too distant future.
Almunia has been pretty shaky this season too. It's a pretty big difference between Arsenal and the other clubs with the same ambitions. It's really hard to argue that Almunia is as good as Van Der Sar. Or Cech (this season, he was really off last season). Or Reina. Or even Friedel, Howard, and Given. At best, Almunia is in a class with Jaskalainnen, Scharner, Robert Greene, and maybe Joe Hart. Those guys are decent keepers, but nobody thinks of them as centerpieces of a championship team.
No argument that Almunia isn't that great. But what does that say about Fabianski? He can't beat out a mediocre keeper and when he gets a shot on the top stage, he makes 2 of the worst keeping mistakes that Arsenal has seen in quite some time.
Oh, I wasn't defending Fabianski. I didn't see the Porto game, but what apparently happened fit exactly into what I think of Fabianski. He's a very talented "shot-stopper" but he exercises appalling judgment and communication skills. I was a bit impressed by Mannone earlier in the year. Not quite as good a shot-stopper as Fabianski, but I thought he controlled his area better. I think he took some blame on a goal in one of the CL group stage games (I think he missed a cross), but I remember thinking it was a play that I routinely see Almunia miss too.
 
I am a newcomer to this thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned. A new independent film is being debuted at SXSW and it sounds worth checking out.

Pelada

On a day when the Champions League knockout rounds start, I wanted to draw your attention away briefly from the stadium lights to a marvelous new soccer documentary by four young Americans that I saw a sneak preview of on Monday. The film is called Pelada--the Brazilian term for pickup soccer--and it follows two former college standouts (Duke's Gwendolyn Oxenham and Notre Dame's Luke Boughen) as they visit 25 countries in search of pickup games and the stories of the people who play them.

The movie, which debuts at the prestigious South by Southwest Film Festival in Austin, Tex., on March 14, is a testament to the power of the world's game to dissolve the boundaries of gender, language and culture. Armed with a ball and a thirst for adventure, the Americans bribe their way into a Bolivian prison game, play for money in a Nairobi slum tournament and test the limits of Iranian authorities when Oxenham joins an all-male game in Tehran.

But what elevates Pelada from a cute highlight travelogue to something more resonant is the filmmakers' ability to find compelling stories and earn the trust of their interview subjects. "Once you play a game with someone, interview doesn't seem like the appropriate word," says Oxenham. "There's this level of intimacy that you don't get if you don't play soccer. Every place we went, you're then invited into their homes. Everyone's mother wants to cook for you."

"[Playing soccer] would change the situation from being an outsider having an interview with them to having a conversation with a friend," adds Boughen.

The result is a film that combines eye-popping cinematography (by co-directors Rebekah Fergusson and Ryan White) with human stories: the dreams of a teenage Brazilian girl nicknamed Ronaldinha; a lunchtime kickabout among workers building the Cape Town World Cup stadium; and an Italian writer who pens love poems to the sport. A tense game between Arabs and Jews in Jerusalem reveals the benefits (and very real challenges) that come with the sport.

Boughen and Oxenham are also clearly good players, and a running thread is the reaction in male-dominated soccer cultures to a woman who's eager to join them on the field. "It was funny because Luke would score three goals and nobody really cared because everyone can see he's a good [male] soccer player, but all I would have to do was a little pivot and everyone freaked out," says Oxenham. "There was very little negative reaction to me, except for maybe in Italy, where in a couple pickup games it was like, 'Who is this woman?' In Iran they passed the ball to me more than they did in any other country, whether I was in a good position or not, which was interesting to me."

The filmmakers financed their project by piecing together grants and contributions, but they're still raising money to cover costs after spending around $250,000 on the project. While they have done a deal with PBS International for the international rights, they're hoping that the buzz from the South by Southwest Film Festival and others (they have applied to the Tribeca Film Festival in New York City) will lead to a distribution deal with a U.S. studio or television channel.

For now, though, they're excited about their film finally making its public debut. "It's surreal," Oxenham says. "You spend three years and you've got 400 hours of footage and getting it down to 80 or 90 minutes tops, it feels like you're killing babies left and right. But it's great to see it shaping up into the thing that you always imagined from the beginning."

Yet being accepted into a major film festival isn't the only news for Oxenham and Boughen. After crisscrossing the globe together, they're getting married in June. Part of their honeymoon may involve a screening of Pelada in Cape Town during the World Cup.

You can find more information about Pelada (including a movie trailer and tax-deductible donations) at www.pelada-movie.com.
Sound great :lmao: Like most of you guys I'm sure, I've played pickup soccer all over the place and have found no better way of being immediately taken in by the home-peeps.
Yeah, this definitely sounds interesting. If someone sees where it ends up getting picked up I'd like to know.
 
Oh, I wasn't defending Fabianski. I didn't see the Porto game, but what apparently happened fit exactly into what I think of Fabianski. He's a very talented "shot-stopper" but he exercises appalling judgment and communication skills. I was a bit impressed by Mannone earlier in the year. Not quite as good a shot-stopper as Fabianski, but I thought he controlled his area better. I think he took some blame on a goal in one of the CL group stage games (I think he missed a cross), but I remember thinking it was a play that I routinely see Almunia miss too.
Appalling judgment would be being quite kind.
 
And, forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Evra who kicked the ball away after the foul??? Can they protest this call?
:banned: I thought it was Carrick who kicked it, Evra who fouled... anybody else know?
I thought the same but I think it is bc that is what the announcer said. Iirc, the camera zoomed to the ref and never showed a replay (except of SAF throwing a little tantrum)
yeah, I went out and found a replay. Carrick actually flicked the ball into Evra's path, so it appeared that Evra kicked it away. But it was in fact Carrick. In my eyes, it was a very harsh card for stalling because of the fact Carrick is not a "dirty" player. First red card ever for him I believe. Does he make hard tackles and draw yellows? Sure, everyone does. But the ref has to know when a player is already on a card, and has to know the player he is dealing with. If it were Fletcher or Scholes that did that, well, I can see the case for a second yellow, as both of these players have histories of not exactly being the cleanest players.so, I'll officially call off my protest on this one
 
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yeah, I went out and found a reply. Carrick actually flicked the ball into Evra's path, so it appeared that Evra kicked it away. But it was in fact Carrick. In my eyes, it was a very harsh card for stalling because of the fact Carrick is not a "dirty" player. First red card ever for him I believe. Does he make hard tackles and draw yellows? Sure, everyone does. But the ref has to know when a player is already on a card, and has to know the player he is dealing with. If it were Fletcher or Scholes that did that, well, I can see the case for a second yellow, as both of these players have histories of not exactly being the cleanest players.so, I'll officially call off my protest on this one
I've never regarded Scholes as dirty. He's simply the most inept tackler I've ever seen in my life.
 
I am a newcomer to this thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned. A new independent film is being debuted at SXSW and it sounds worth checking out.

Pelada

On a day when the Champions League knockout rounds start, I wanted to draw your attention away briefly from the stadium lights to a marvelous new soccer documentary by four young Americans that I saw a sneak preview of on Monday. The film is called Pelada--the Brazilian term for pickup soccer--and it follows two former college standouts (Duke's Gwendolyn Oxenham and Notre Dame's Luke Boughen) as they visit 25 countries in search of pickup games and the stories of the people who play them.

The movie, which debuts at the prestigious South by Southwest Film Festival in Austin, Tex., on March 14, is a testament to the power of the world's game to dissolve the boundaries of gender, language and culture. Armed with a ball and a thirst for adventure, the Americans bribe their way into a Bolivian prison game, play for money in a Nairobi slum tournament and test the limits of Iranian authorities when Oxenham joins an all-male game in Tehran.

But what elevates Pelada from a cute highlight travelogue to something more resonant is the filmmakers' ability to find compelling stories and earn the trust of their interview subjects. "Once you play a game with someone, interview doesn't seem like the appropriate word," says Oxenham. "There's this level of intimacy that you don't get if you don't play soccer. Every place we went, you're then invited into their homes. Everyone's mother wants to cook for you."

"[Playing soccer] would change the situation from being an outsider having an interview with them to having a conversation with a friend," adds Boughen.

The result is a film that combines eye-popping cinematography (by co-directors Rebekah Fergusson and Ryan White) with human stories: the dreams of a teenage Brazilian girl nicknamed Ronaldinha; a lunchtime kickabout among workers building the Cape Town World Cup stadium; and an Italian writer who pens love poems to the sport. A tense game between Arabs and Jews in Jerusalem reveals the benefits (and very real challenges) that come with the sport.

Boughen and Oxenham are also clearly good players, and a running thread is the reaction in male-dominated soccer cultures to a woman who's eager to join them on the field. "It was funny because Luke would score three goals and nobody really cared because everyone can see he's a good [male] soccer player, but all I would have to do was a little pivot and everyone freaked out," says Oxenham. "There was very little negative reaction to me, except for maybe in Italy, where in a couple pickup games it was like, 'Who is this woman?' In Iran they passed the ball to me more than they did in any other country, whether I was in a good position or not, which was interesting to me."

The filmmakers financed their project by piecing together grants and contributions, but they're still raising money to cover costs after spending around $250,000 on the project. While they have done a deal with PBS International for the international rights, they're hoping that the buzz from the South by Southwest Film Festival and others (they have applied to the Tribeca Film Festival in New York City) will lead to a distribution deal with a U.S. studio or television channel.

For now, though, they're excited about their film finally making its public debut. "It's surreal," Oxenham says. "You spend three years and you've got 400 hours of footage and getting it down to 80 or 90 minutes tops, it feels like you're killing babies left and right. But it's great to see it shaping up into the thing that you always imagined from the beginning."

Yet being accepted into a major film festival isn't the only news for Oxenham and Boughen. After crisscrossing the globe together, they're getting married in June. Part of their honeymoon may involve a screening of Pelada in Cape Town during the World Cup.

You can find more information about Pelada (including a movie trailer and tax-deductible donations) at www.pelada-movie.com.
Sound great :banned: Like most of you guys I'm sure, I've played pickup soccer all over the place and have found no better way of being immediately taken in by the home-peeps.
Yeah, this definitely sounds interesting. If someone sees where it ends up getting picked up I'd like to know.
I've seen some lengthy excerpts from this - going back a year or more - on youtube and the like. Its good stuff, but not necessarily something I would expect to be a feature-length documentary.
 
TLEF316 said:
not sure why Anderson isnt better. He's a beast in FIFA 10.
I read an article (on Soccernet I think) about him recently. He had a really bad ankle injury and apparantly hasn't trully recovered his same quickness/speed that he had before the injury. The article talked about how it really hadn't been noticed because Man U deployed him in more of a defensive mid-field role and kept him back instead of allowing him to rush forward and attack with the freedom he had in Portugal.
 
TLEF316 said:
not sure why Anderson isnt better. He's a beast in FIFA 10.
I read an article (on Soccernet I think) about him recently. He had a really bad ankle injury and apparantly hasn't trully recovered his same quickness/speed that he had before the injury. The article talked about how it really hadn't been noticed because Man U deployed him in more of a defensive mid-field role and kept him back instead of allowing him to rush forward and attack with the freedom he had in Portugal.
well....he's an absolute 2 way beast in FIFA 10. Best player on the united roster behind Rooney nad Vidic.
 
TLEF316 said:
not sure why Anderson isnt better. He's a beast in FIFA 10.
I read an article (on Soccernet I think) about him recently. He had a really bad ankle injury and apparantly hasn't trully recovered his same quickness/speed that he had before the injury. The article talked about how it really hadn't been noticed because Man U deployed him in more of a defensive mid-field role and kept him back instead of allowing him to rush forward and attack with the freedom he had in Portugal.
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TLEF316 said:
not sure why Anderson isnt better. He's a beast in FIFA 10.
I read an article (on Soccernet I think) about him recently. He had a really bad ankle injury and apparantly hasn't trully recovered his same quickness/speed that he had before the injury. The article talked about how it really hadn't been noticed because Man U deployed him in more of a defensive mid-field role and kept him back instead of allowing him to rush forward and attack with the freedom he had in Portugal.
He may have had an ankle injury......Anderson has been in the doghouse for a long time now, and is visibly extremely unhappy with his role/pt on the club. He has a world of athletic and offensive talent, however, he is a piss poor passer, his tackling/defense is barely adequate, at best. At only 21, he's still got a long time ahead of him, but he has a lot of growing up to do. Stories of him leaving the club without permission, complaining about his lack of pt, basically being a prima donna, and he has yet to prove himself as a world class player at a consistent rate. If the midfield weren't so banged up, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he goes out on loan..perhaps permanently.eta - I thought you were speaking of an injury earlier this season, not the break that happened 3+ years ago.
 
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TLEF316 said:
not sure why Anderson isnt better. He's a beast in FIFA 10.
I read an article (on Soccernet I think) about him recently. He had a really bad ankle injury and apparantly hasn't trully recovered his same quickness/speed that he had before the injury. The article talked about how it really hadn't been noticed because Man U deployed him in more of a defensive mid-field role and kept him back instead of allowing him to rush forward and attack with the freedom he had in Portugal.
He may have had an ankle injury......Anderson has been in the doghouse for a long time now, and is visibly extremely unhappy with his role/pt on the club. He has a world of athletic and offensive talent, however, he is a piss poor passer, his tackling/defense is barely adequate, at best. At only 21, he's still got a long time ahead of him, but he has a lot of growing up to do. Stories of him leaving the club without permission, complaining about his lack of pt, basically being a prima donna, and he has yet to prove himself as a world class player at a consistent rate. If the midfield weren't so banged up, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he goes out on loan..perhaps permanently.

eta - I thought you were speaking of an injury earlier this season, not the break that happened 3+ years ago.
Yeah, from what I've read about the guy he hasn't been the same player since that ankle injury, people just didn't know it because right after the inury he came to United and because of SAF (how he used him and the spats between them) nobody knew it.
 
Thanks Andy.Davies.... wow.

Again- regardless of how fast he's coming back to being able to run around, it remains to be seen if he'll get back the power, quickness and pace that made his game special. I really hope he does. Also really hope he doesn't rush himself back into further injurt. Forgive me for being a nervous nelly here... :shock:

 
Donovan starting on the left for Everton against Man U.
Ooof, he takes a whiff at a deflection handball at the top of the 6-yard box that would have put Everton up 2-1
Can't be too harsh. It got on him fast. He's had a good game so far. Fits in with Everton well.I absolutely love the Rooney-Berbatov combo of workrate and seeming effortlessness. That flick Berbatov made to put Rooney through early in the game was sublime.

 
Donovan starting on the left for Everton against Man U.
Ooof, he takes a whiff at a deflection handball at the top of the 6-yard box that would have put Everton up 2-1
Can't be too harsh. It got on him fast. He's had a good game so far. Fits in with Everton well.I absolutely love the Rooney-Berbatov combo of workrate and seeming effortlessness. That flick Berbatov made to put Rooney through early in the game was sublime.
True, I just would have loved to see him bury it though. I also like what I see from the Saha-Belyaltedinov combo, especially with Cahill being out. The Russian is making some good crossing runs behind Saha that will convert if they keep it up.After last weeks win at Chelsea, I would love to see them take out ManU this week. It's been a great match so far, lots of back and forth.

Landon has been a great spark for the Toffees, I just wish he can get more than five more games out of it....

 
Reading the updates on the guardian:

54 min: United look the most likely all of a sudden. Rooney twists and turns on the left, sending a deep cross to the far post. Berbatov is on hand to guide a cushioned header just wide right of goal. An unlucky miss. His head drops momentarily. He's probably dreaming of smoking a ###### while listening to Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud by Miles Davis.
lol
 
How's that for two substitutions.....Gosling and Rodwell both come on and score late for Everton to take 3 points. Awesome!

Wow, what a Premiership double the last two matches for Everton, first Chelsea, then ManU. God I wish they would have started the season better....

 
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7:45 AM!!!??? not PM?..... :shrug:
You missed a good one. LD looks right at home in the EPL.
:pickle:Saw him interviewed on SkySports last week as he collected the Everton POM award- said all the right things, very gracious towards Everton, didn't rule out coming back, and basically called Rooney the best player on the planet.Saw a newsticker this morning that said he was definitely going back to the MLS at the end of his official loan spell.I'm an LD fan- especially since that US away loss to CR- but I have to feel Everton's good play andseries ofresults since pretty much LD's arrival is more about them being a good team that's hitting it's stride at the right time than LD being the missing catalyst. But I'm happy if he's somehow being perceived that way.Totally agree that he fits in to the league- a bit of a suprise to me as I didn't know if he'd be able to match the physicality (although I guess it remains to be seen if he could handle a full season). Really happy to see yet another US player be more than just another set of legs out there. LD, Dempsey, McBride, Reyna- all of them became integral and key, if not major, components of their squads.
 
It's too bad LD can't stay. I really think it would benefit the USMNT this summer.

Watching this Liverpool-Man City game, it's easy to see why Liverpool is struggling. Its MF is a disaster. There had to be half a dozen errant passes in the first half that I'd never expect to see in the past. Gerrard's frustration is palpable..

 
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