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I was browsing through that list as a noob to the soccer world. It seemed like there were a crap ton of Barca and Real Madrid players.

Not a whole lot of EPL players behind the Big 4 teams.

Again, it just seemed like it to me. I kinda skimmed the list yesterday...but that is just an impression, the facts probably do not support that.

Personally, I think Wayne Rooney is the best....but obv I am not even remotely knowledgeable enough to make that call.

 
prior to the WC, i'll take Rooney over Messi.

Messi's obviously tremendous, but i think Rooney is doing more with less around him. Man U's obviously a great team, but Messi's got 4 of the top 10-15 MF'er in the world providing him service.

Plus Rooney's obviously a better defedner.

You cant go wrong with any of the top 3 though. All of them are tremendous talents.

the one thing i liked about the list is that it gave me some background info i didnt know. I'm a big Evra fan. I had no idea that he such a late bloomer and has had issues getting on the field for France.

 
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I was browsing through that list as a noob to the soccer world. It seemed like there were a crap ton of Barca and Real Madrid players. Not a whole lot of EPL players behind the Big 4 teams.Again, it just seemed like it to me. I kinda skimmed the list yesterday...but that is just an impression, the facts probably do not support that.Personally, I think Wayne Rooney is the best....but obv I am not even remotely knowledgeable enough to make that call.
Well, Barcelona have been world beaters the past two years. To win as much as they have you need to have some pretty amazing talent. As to Real Madrid, they are the richest club in the world. Ronaldo, Kaka and Benzema are all new this season and an unbelieveable amount of money was spent to bring them it. It makes sense.The best players in the world tend to end up at the biggest clubs. Rooney has been lights out this year, he is definetely in the discussion for players right now.
 
one omission that stood out was Ibrahimovic. I gotta think he's one of the top 50 players on the planet.

My guess is that they only listed players who qualified for South Africa.
This...its a Top 50 players in the WC. It's tough for me to get fired up about including the best player on one of the 16 best teams in the WC in a top 50 list.
I also thought most of the first half of the list was defensible. I thought the second half was a bit curious. I did think they had Pirlo way too high. Like they thought it was 2006 or something.
Ballack too, he seems to be a shell of his former self recently... but at least he still has such a wonderful demeanor.
 
College of Charleston soccer sets sights on Italy

What a great trip this will be for these kids.

The College of Charleston men's soccer program announced plans for a two-week trip to Italy, running from May 13-28, at a press conference Monday at the Carolina First Arena.

The Cougars will make stops in several cities to play a total of eight matches against U-19 teams from some of the most competitive professional teams as well as Serie D (Division III) professional clubs. Highlights include matches against AC Milan, Inter Milan, AS Roma and Lazio.

"Part of what I do is to provide these young men with opportunities to grow," head coach Ralph Lundy said. "We want to go over there and play the toughest competition in a country that has the most passion for soccer."

...

The team departs on May 13 after a week-long training camp at Patriots Point. The Cougars' first stop will be in Momo to play the local team before moving on to Milan. Before facing youth teams from AC Milan and Inter Milan, Charleston will have an opportunity to watch AC Milan face Juventus in a crowd of 80,000 on May 16.
 
one omission that stood out was Ibrahimovic. I gotta think he's one of the top 50 players on the planet.

My guess is that they only listed players who qualified for South Africa.
This...its a Top 50 players in the WC. It's tough for me to get fired up about including the best player on one of the 16 best teams in the WC in a top 50 list.
I also thought most of the first half of the list was defensible. I thought the second half was a bit curious. I did think they had Pirlo way too high. Like they thought it was 2006 or something.
Ballack too, he seems to be a shell of his former self recently... but at least he still has such a wonderful demeanor.
Despite his form for Chelsea, Ballack is still the most influential player on the German squad and they will again make noise in the WC. No problem at all with his inclusion.
 
one omission that stood out was Ibrahimovic. I gotta think he's one of the top 50 players on the planet.

My guess is that they only listed players who qualified for South Africa.
This...its a Top 50 players in the WC. It's tough for me to get fired up about including the best player on one of the 16 best teams in the WC in a top 50 list.
I also thought most of the first half of the list was defensible. I thought the second half was a bit curious. I did think they had Pirlo way too high. Like they thought it was 2006 or something.
Ballack too, he seems to be a shell of his former self recently... but at least he still has such a wonderful demeanor.
Despite his form for Chelsea, Ballack is still the most influential player on the German squad and they will again make noise in the WC. No problem at all with his inclusion.
totally agreeBallack is still a force in international play - evidenced by German run at Euro 2008. He's been largely a disappointment at Chelsea (as has Deco who I'm also interested to see his role on Portugal this year, I remember him and Luis Figo played very well last WC), but I think the German's will have a very strong side, especially if they get some offense from the likes of Gomez/Podolski.....Klose is usually pretty consistent performer, it's the secondary striker for Germany that seems to be spotty at best. I like German's midfield, their defense seems a little young to me, but to be honest, I watch very little German soccer so I'm a bit unfamiliar with a few players back there these days.

 
Despite his form for Chelsea, Ballack is still the most influential player on the German squad and they will again make noise in the WC. No problem at all with his inclusion.
totally agreeBallack is still a force in international play - evidenced by German run at Euro 2008. He's been largely a disappointment at Chelsea (as has Deco who I'm also interested to see his role on Portugal this year, I remember him and Luis Figo played very well last WC), but I think the German's will have a very strong side, especially if they get some offense from the likes of Gomez/Podolski.....Klose is usually pretty consistent performer, it's the secondary striker for Germany that seems to be spotty at best. I like German's midfield, their defense seems a little young to me, but to be honest, I watch very little German soccer so I'm a bit unfamiliar with a few players back there these days.
Yah, but is he the 30th best player on the planet at this point? Sorry, I just don't see it.
 
Despite his form for Chelsea, Ballack is still the most influential player on the German squad and they will again make noise in the WC. No problem at all with his inclusion.
totally agreeBallack is still a force in international play - evidenced by German run at Euro 2008. He's been largely a disappointment at Chelsea (as has Deco who I'm also interested to see his role on Portugal this year, I remember him and Luis Figo played very well last WC), but I think the German's will have a very strong side, especially if they get some offense from the likes of Gomez/Podolski.....Klose is usually pretty consistent performer, it's the secondary striker for Germany that seems to be spotty at best. I like German's midfield, their defense seems a little young to me, but to be honest, I watch very little German soccer so I'm a bit unfamiliar with a few players back there these days.
Yah, but is he the 30th best player on the planet at this point? Sorry, I just don't see it.
If you base the discussion on International play and not club play than Id argue yes.
 
Despite his form for Chelsea, Ballack is still the most influential player on the German squad and they will again make noise in the WC. No problem at all with his inclusion.
totally agreeBallack is still a force in international play - evidenced by German run at Euro 2008. He's been largely a disappointment at Chelsea (as has Deco who I'm also interested to see his role on Portugal this year, I remember him and Luis Figo played very well last WC), but I think the German's will have a very strong side, especially if they get some offense from the likes of Gomez/Podolski.....Klose is usually pretty consistent performer, it's the secondary striker for Germany that seems to be spotty at best. I like German's midfield, their defense seems a little young to me, but to be honest, I watch very little German soccer so I'm a bit unfamiliar with a few players back there these days.
Yah, but is he the 30th best player on the planet at this point? Sorry, I just don't see it.
If you base the discussion on International play and not club play than Id argue yes.
When was the last time that he played a meaningful International game? I think it's a leap to assume that he somehow regains that form just by donning a German jersey. Fortunately, he will have the chance to prove one of us right.
 
Despite his form for Chelsea, Ballack is still the most influential player on the German squad and they will again make noise in the WC. No problem at all with his inclusion.
totally agreeBallack is still a force in international play - evidenced by German run at Euro 2008. He's been largely a disappointment at Chelsea (as has Deco who I'm also interested to see his role on Portugal this year, I remember him and Luis Figo played very well last WC), but I think the German's will have a very strong side, especially if they get some offense from the likes of Gomez/Podolski.....Klose is usually pretty consistent performer, it's the secondary striker for Germany that seems to be spotty at best. I like German's midfield, their defense seems a little young to me, but to be honest, I watch very little German soccer so I'm a bit unfamiliar with a few players back there these days.
Yah, but is he the 30th best player on the planet at this point? Sorry, I just don't see it.
If you base the discussion on International play and not club play than Id argue yes.
When was the last time that he played a meaningful International game? I think it's a leap to assume that he somehow regains that form just by donning a German jersey. Fortunately, he will have the chance to prove one of us right.
The list was the 50 best players that will be at the WC 2010Last time he played a meaningful International game was Euro2008 final vs SpainHe is the captain of one of the best sides in the World. Is he the most spectacular/dynamic player in the world? No. But, he is a pretty effective central midfielder,
 
The list was the 50 best players that will be at the WC 2010Last time he played a meaningful International game was Euro2008 final vs SpainHe is the captain of one of the best sides in the World. Is he the most spectacular/dynamic player in the world? No. But, he is a pretty effective central midfielder,
So is Xabi Alonso, and he doesn't get a start for Spain all the time. For that matter, neither does Cesc.Ballack is not in the top 50 players in the world right now, or maybe just on the cusp. 'dinho is IMO with what he's shown at Milan these last two seasons.
 
Lots of Ballack love up in here. Like I said, the fun part about this is that it will play out for all of us to see this summer. I'll gladly admit that I was wrong if he steps up in the WC. But as of March 2, 2010, I don't consider him to be a top 30 player in the world cup so I'll agree to disagree with the Ballack supporters.

:shrug:

 
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Lots of Ballack love up in here. Like I said, the fun part about this is that it will play out for all of us to see this summer. I'll gladly admit that I was wrong if he steps up in the WC. But as of March 2, 2010, I don't consider him to be a top 30 player in the world cup so I'll agree to disagree with the Ballack supporters. :lmao:
I completely agree he isn't what he used to be and I don't know how high he should be ranked. But, he most likely gets bumped up in the ranking just by being the captain of a strong German squad.
 
Despite his form for Chelsea, Ballack is still the most influential player on the German squad and they will again make noise in the WC. No problem at all with his inclusion.
totally agreeBallack is still a force in international play - evidenced by German run at Euro 2008. He's been largely a disappointment at Chelsea (as has Deco who I'm also interested to see his role on Portugal this year, I remember him and Luis Figo played very well last WC), but I think the German's will have a very strong side, especially if they get some offense from the likes of Gomez/Podolski.....Klose is usually pretty consistent performer, it's the secondary striker for Germany that seems to be spotty at best. I like German's midfield, their defense seems a little young to me, but to be honest, I watch very little German soccer so I'm a bit unfamiliar with a few players back there these days.
Yah, but is he the 30th best player on the planet at this point? Sorry, I just don't see it.
If you base the discussion on International play and not club play than Id argue yes.
That's what's so confusing. If we're basing it on international play, Lampard should be below LD.
 
Lots of Ballack love up in here. Like I said, the fun part about this is that it will play out for all of us to see this summer. I'll gladly admit that I was wrong if he steps up in the WC. But as of March 2, 2010, I don't consider him to be a top 30 player in the world cup so I'll agree to disagree with the Ballack supporters. :shrug:
I completely agree he isn't what he used to be and I don't know how high he should be ranked. But, he most likely gets bumped up in the ranking just by being the captain of a strong German squad.
Maybe he's just the sort of guy who needs to be out there week-in and week-out. Someone like that isn't going to be in form sitting on the bench half of the time.Also, I was always a little confused with him deciding to go to Chelsea. I just don't think he fits there.
 
If you base the discussion on International play and not club play than Id argue yes.
That's what's so confusing. If we're basing it on international play, Lampard should be below LD.
Very confusing. Dani Alves doesn't play much for Brazil for instance, yet he is listed at 18 ahead of Maicon. Cesc is a sub for Spain yet is listed at 16. Meh, none of these lists are ever all that good.
 
If you base the discussion on International play and not club play than Id argue yes.
That's what's so confusing. If we're basing it on international play, Lampard should be below LD.
Very confusing. Dani Alves doesn't play much for Brazil for instance, yet he is listed at 18 ahead of Maicon. Cesc is a sub for Spain yet is listed at 16. Meh, none of these lists are ever all that good.
Also good to see so many Asian players there...
 
Great article on my boys and what it's like in Madrid in terms of soccer: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...ope&cc=5901

LA LIGA REVIEW

Undercover at the Calderon

By Eduardo Alvarez

I usually stay around for the full evening, watching every match on the telly and talking politics until the 9pm game finishes. That's why she voiced her surprise when I wore my jacket and gloves at 7.45pm: "Where are you going?" she said. "To the Calderon. I'm going to watch Atletico and Valencia," I replied. Utter contempt then appeared on my mother's face. "Why on earth?"

...

Nothing had changed at the top of the table, so I decided I couldn't lose anything if I went to the Manzanares to watch arguably two of the best Spanish sides. I answered my mother's question with a quick "It'll be a good match", but she came back with another issue: "Who are you going to root for? Are you going to pretend you support Atletico? You don't look, sound or behave like an Atletico supporter!" My response of: "Whatever, mother," got the following putdown, as only a mother can: "OK, son, I might be wrong - you just behaved like one of them".

I left the house reflecting on how, during the last two seasons, the rojiblancos have made an art of their historical trait of beating the best sides and losing to the worst ones. I can state with no fear of being wrong that watching Atletico this season is the 'Ultimate Entertainment Football Experience'.

Nothing is off limits when they are on the pitch. If they're up 3-0, you have the distinct feeling that they can still lose the match, and if they trail 3-0, you easily talk yourself into an unforgettable comeback. This is simply fantastic when you're a neutral, and worth the price of every ticket to watch them play, but utterly insufferable if you count yourself among their fan base. Thank God I was born far away from the Manzanares river.

I hopped into a cab. An Atletico flag hung on its rear-view mirror. When I told the driver my destination, he said: "Are you going to watch Atletico? What for? It's a La Liga match. This season we only care about knockout tournaments". A great way to justify their poor La Liga form, and their good performance in both the Copa del Rey and the Europa League.

We had a good chat about the team, during which I played the role of die-hard rojiblanco until we arrived at the stadium. "Do you really support Atletico?" he asked as I was paying for the ride. "Why that question?" I said. "You just don't sound like an Atletico supporter, mate," he replied.

Perplexed by this comment (and obviously thinking that my mother, as usual, may have a point), I walked into one of the iconic watering holes near the Calderon, a bar called El Chiscon, ordered the classic 'cana' (approximately 200ml of draft lager) and started to speak with the group of Atletico supporters standing next to me, all of them watching the second half of Sevilla and Athletic de Bilbao.

We amiably discussed the impressive form of Jose Antonio Reyes, the frustrating sequence of injuries Kun Aguero has suffered, and how Jurado could be an impressive offensive midfielder if he were a bit more... well... manly. The most talkative, named Miguel, bought me a 'tubo' (literally, a 'pipe', a tall and slim glass with approximately 300ml of draft lager) and kept talking about the club non-stop.

I turned down his subsequent offers of a 'cacharrito' (any mixture including two doses of hard liquor plus any soda or cola) or a taste of his 'calimocho' (wine, cola and ice, as terrible as that sounds) and got my stuff together to leave. He then grabbed me by the arm and said into my ear: "You're a nice bloke, but you speak like a madridista. Keep your mouth shut if you want to watch the match in peace."

Shocked, I entered into the stadium thinking this had to be some kind of conspiracy orchestrated by my mother, but quickly found my seat and got distracted by the almost full house and the chants of the Frente Atletico, insulting Valencia's keeper Cesar Sanchez because of his madridista past. The pitch conditions were far from ideal, as the rain and snow of the last few weeks had taken their toll, but the atmosphere was fantastic.

Both teams started poorly, showing that their midweek matches - Valencia defeated Club Brugge in the extra time, while Atletico won at Galatasaray in the very last second of normal time - had been tough. After a dull start, Atletico started to take control of proceedings, especially through the impressive Reyes.

In the 20th minute, he entered the Valencia area and was brought down, but the incident was completely ignored by the referee. In the following piece of play, with most of the stadium still booing at deafening levels, Valencia scored through David Silva, who kept the ball for a good 20 seconds inside Atletico's box while no one bothered him.

"Now it looks bleak," the guy next to me said. "Valencia are going to kill us with their fast counter attacks." But Atletico maintained their tempo and forced Spain international Marchena into an infantile mistake, giving the ball away to Aguero and then blatantly handling the ball inside his own box to prevent the forward from scoring.

Amazingly enough, the referee waved play on once again under infernal noise from the crowd. The fourth official called him and explained what had actually happened, so Marchena received his marching orders (no pun intended) and Diego Forlan scored from the penalty spot.

In less than five minutes, I had witnessed the essence of this Atletico season. When everything seemed lost, in just one play the match dynamics were completely inverted and everyone went from hell to heaven. After drawing level, Atletico completely dominated the game. Reyes kept creating scoring chances for Aguero and Forlan, but they were well below their own high standards and for a long time it looked like they were not going to be able to beat an impressive Cesar.

Valencia's keeper kept getting bigger and bigger, and made at least seven amazing saves from various positions. After each save, he stood defiant looking at the Frente Atletico, who stepped up their chants: "Cesar, you die" or "Cesar is not a goalie, is a w****** from a nightclub" were profusely repeated. Two months older than his coach, this season's Cesar looks more immature than ever, and has grown fond of provoking rival fans when he plays away from home - just remember Valencia at Sevilla last January.

His exhibition was ended by Aguero's delicate header in the 78th minute. At this point, the valencianistas lost their poise and were lucky to finish with nine players - Miguel saw a red card after a vicious tackle from behind on Reyes, while Manuel Fernandes and Chori Dominguez should thank the ref for not being sent off. Forlan and substitute Jose Manuel Jurado rounded an impressive 4-1 win for Atletico.

From what I saw, it's hard to explain how Atletico are 16 points behind Valencia in the rankings, but then you have to remember the rojiblancos' ability to show up for big matches and their lack of consistency when facing smaller sides. Currently, their biggest star is Reyes, who ranks up there with any of Spain's best offensive midfielders. It would make sense to give him at least one chance before the final 23 are chosen.

After the whole emotional rollercoaster ended, I left the stadium and hailed a cab. The driver wore a Real Madrid track top. "Were you watching the match?" he asked. "Yes, it was fantastic," came my reply. "But you don't support Atletico, do you? You don't look like one of them". The lesson, as usual: listen to your mother.
It's kind of hard to explain, but you can just see it in people's faces and demeanor if they're a Real or Atleti fan.
 
Top 50 by club

BARCELONA

1 Lionel Messi

5 Xavi

7 Andres Iniesta

18 Dani Alves

28 Thierry Henry

33 Gerard Pique

48 Yaya Toure

39 Carles Puyol

MADRID

2 Cristiano Ronaldo, Portugal

4 Kaka, Brazil

15 Iker Casillas, Spain

26 Gonzalo Higuain, Argentina

44 Karim Benzema, France

MAN UNITED

3 Wayne Rooney, England

19 Nemanja Vidic, Serbia

42 Patrice Evra, France

CHELSEA

6 Didier Drogba, Ivory Coast

10 Michael Essien, Ghana

22 Frank Lampard, England

30 Michael Ballack, Germany

37 John Terry, England

40 Nicolas Anelka, France

41 Ashley Cole, England

LIVERPOOL

8 Fernando Torres, Spain

9 Steven Gerrard, England

36 Javier Mascherano, Argentina

INTER

13 Samuel Eto'o, Cameroon

20 Wesley Sneijder, Netherlands

21 Maicon, Brazil

31 Julio Cesar, Brazil

35 Lucio, Brazil

BAYERN

12 Franck Ribery, France

47 Philipp Lahm, Germany

32 Arjen Robben, Netherlands

34 Miroslav Klose, Germany

OTHERS

11 David Villa, Spain

14 Luis Fabiano, Brazil

16 Cesc Fabregas, Spain

17 Gianluigi Buffon, Italy

23 Andrea Pirlo, Italy

24 Carlos Tevez, Argentina

25 Robin van Persie, Netherlands

27 Diego Forlan, Uruguay

29 Sergio Aguero, Argentina

38 David Silva, Spain

43 Marek Hamsik, Slovakia

45 Yoann Gourcuff, France

46 Daniele De Rossi, Italy

49 Giorgio Chiellini, Italy

50 Landon Donovan, United States

 
by country

ARGENTINA (5)

1 Lionel Messi

24 Carlos Tevez

26 Gonzalo Higuain

29 Sergio Aguero

36 Javier Mascherano

BRAZIL (6)

4 Kaka

14 Luis Fabiano

18 Dani Alves

21 Maicon

31 Julio Cesar

35 Lucio

ENGLAND (5)

3 Wayne Rooney

9 Steven Gerrard

22 Frank Lampard

37 John Terry

41 Ashley Cole

FRANCE (6)

12 Franck Ribery

28 Thierry Henry

40 Nicolas Anelka

42 Patrice Evra

44 Karim Benzema

45 Yoann Gourcuff

GERMANY (3)

30 Michael Ballack

34 Miroslav Klose

47 Philipp Lahm

ITALY (4)

17 Gianluigi Buffon

23 Andrea Pirlo

46 Daniele De Rossi

49 Giorgio Chiellini

IVORY COAST (2)

6 Didier Drogba

48 Yaya Toure

NETHERLANDS (3)

20 Wesley Sneijder

25 Robin van Persie

32 Arjen Robben

SPAIN (9)

5 Xavi

7 Andres Iniesta

8 Fernando Torres

11 David Villa

15 Iker Casillas

16 Cesc Fabregas

33 Gerard Pique

38 David Silva

39 Carles Puyol

OTHERS (7)

2 Cristiano Ronaldo, Portugal

10 Michael Essien, Ghana

13 Samuel Eto'o, Cameroon

19 Nemanja Vidic, Serbia

27 Diego Forlan, Uruguay

43 Marek Hamsik, Slovakia

50 Landon Donovan, United States

 
Liverpool lost Skrtel for two months and Fabio Auriello for one month. Mascherano might be seeing some more time on the back line. Oof.

 
Also, there's no way that Gerard Piqué is #33. I really like the guy as a player, but he needs some more seasoning to be included in this list. Do people think he's really better than Sergio Ramos? Yes, they play different positions, but still...

 
Also, there's no way that Gerard Piqué is #33. I really like the guy as a player, but he needs some more seasoning to be included in this list. Do people think he's really better than Sergio Ramos? Yes, they play different positions, but still...
I haven't always been a fan but must say I have been particularly impressed with this steady play the last few times I've seen him
 
Looks like Stu Holden may have already made enough of a mark to stick around at Bolton. Coyle seems to be showering him with praise over the last few days and it sounds like he has a real shot at solidifying a spot in the starting 11. I think if he can grow with the team like Dempsey did, that it's a pretty good spot for him for the next few years.

 
Also, there's no way that Gerard Piqué is #33. I really like the guy as a player, but he needs some more seasoning to be included in this list. Do people think he's really better than Sergio Ramos? Yes, they play different positions, but still...
I haven't always been a fan but must say I have been particularly impressed with this steady play the last few times I've seen him
Piqué benefits from having an all world partner at CB with him... that is when Puyol doesn't have to play on the wing where he's much less effective. Plus Piqué also benefits from a midfield with exceptional ball handling and passing skill. Both Xavi and Iniesta are great off the ball, which makes distributing to them even easier and an area where IMO Piqué still needs some work.On the defensive side he's improved by leaps and bounds since becoming a starter at Barça.
 
Looks like Stu Holden may have already made enough of a mark to stick around at Bolton. Coyle seems to be showering him with praise over the last few days and it sounds like he has a real shot at solidifying a spot in the starting 11. I think if he can grow with the team like Dempsey did, that it's a pretty good spot for him for the next few years.
I called it.I'd be a bit worried with Bolton in constant relegation fear, though.

 
US Lineup

-------------Findley------------Altidore--------

--Donovan-----Torres-------Bradley-------Holden--

--Bornstein----Bocanegra----DeMerit-------Spector--

-----------------------Howard-------------------------

 
US Lineup-------------Findley------------Altidore----------Donovan-----Torres-------Bradley-------Holden----Bornstein----Bocanegra----DeMerit-------Spector-------------------------Howard-------------------------
Surprisingly offensively oriented. Excited to see JFT in the middle of the field. Hopefully that doesn't mean that Bradley will just sit in front of the back four. I don't think you can gift possession in the middle of the field to the Dutch. I would have liked to have seen a true target striker, but we didn't bring one. We'll see if Findley can play the Davies role.
 
GK - Howard - annoys me with how long he holds the ball but not much else to say

RB - Spector - had his hands full with Elia early but for the most part, I thought he equipped himself quite well. Sure he got beat a time or two but that's a lot of quickness to deal with and when Robben switched sides in the 1h for a bit he actually matched up better I thought (and the Dutch quickly scrapped that idea). Did pretty good going forward at the right times

CB - Demerit - he positions himself really well and I think he'll be fine if he has to play. Hopefully he won't have to get in any foot races though

CB - Boca - meh. His marking at times is suspect and it appears he'll be a liability overall. Unfortunately, I don't think we have better if Gooch is out and he does provide a decent target on set pieces

LB - Bornstein - his speed keeps him from being totally useless...but just barely. Since both Robben in the 1h and Elia in the 2nd just worked him over, somehow we thought it was a good idea to slide him to CB. My only hope here is that Bob is trying to decide if he should make the roster bc he can handle multiple positions

RM - Holden - thought he played pretty well. Good work rate and all our offense in the 1h (not much) ran down his flank

CM - Bradley - yeomans work. He had to cover a lot of ground and track Sneijder. But he did a good job and was a real physical presence. Clearly not a good job on the 2nd goal but created many opportunities and closed down the middle of the field quite well

CM - Torres - ick. For the most part he was invisible both defensively (notice how often Bradley was forced to track back on the left in the 1h) and even offensively. He seems to be uncomfortable with the speed of play as well as just seeming to not be prepared for the physicality of playing central mid in europe

LM - Donovan - bowser of a game. Obv he can afford such but it makes us look much less threatening

FW - Findley - didn't provide much. He had one fantastic first touch only to innocuously chip it to the keeper. I think this game pretty much sunk his chances of making the squad

FW - Altidore - seemed to work okay. He still shows flashes but I'm not sure he has that nose for the goal. But he's a foul drawing mother

SUBS

Beasley - unfortunate how he had to come on. His speed looked dangerous at times and he looks like the old DMB. Pretty darn effective on set pieces too. I'd be quite happy if he can play like this in the WC.

Edu - He did a much better job than Torres of defending. His passes aren't crisp and he wasn't always showing well but he does appear quite calm on the ball. Hopefully he will continue to play for Rangers bc he can be part of this team and vie for a starting role

Bedoya - another that seems a step too slow at times. Looked good in attack and makes nice runs. He would be more effective with more time I think bc he was making runs that people just weren't expecting. But didn't seem to apply pressure well which I think as a fringe player you just can't do

Pearce - he gets major points for not being named Bornstein to me. I thought he did okay and understands positioning pretty well. Would have liked to see him in the game vs Robben when they were really pushing down that flank

Johnson - Nothing to write home about. He just doesn't make good decisions. I honestly have no idea who our other striker is going to be. Hopefully not EJ

Goodson - incomplete

 

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