Kendall
I heart waffles
I don't think the roster thing is going to be that big of an impact. Players under 21 can play for the first team without holding a roster spot, which should help a lot of the larger teams, like Man U.
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The Z Machine
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Yes, el Kun is still with my Atleti. Same with Forlán.Neither looks to be moving in this transfer period. The Atleti players are all saying the right thing this year. They want to win a spot in CL by taking one of the top 4 spots in la liga. They have the talent to do so and they really underachieved last year (especially at the start of the season).
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Which Toure? Serious question.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Yaya(the part about the wages seems unconfirmed; has been picked up by others but they are all attributing it to the original report from "News of the World".)
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Seattle trades Freddie Ljungberg to Chicago for a 2011 conditional draft pick per soccerbyives.com
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
interesting trade. With Castillo and Ljungberg (assuming his head is on straight) together it should create an interesting offensive pairing.One thing I never get about these trades, does this mean the Seattle frees up a DP slot because they moved a DP player?Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
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Steve Tasker
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We qualified for the promotion playoffs in 4th place. We'll play the 1st place team, who finished 8-1-2. We did beat them in the regular season - one of their 2 losses - but they didn't have any subs that day.
When I joined the team last offseason, they were 1-3-7, finishing with 6 points just 1 place above relegation in 11th. Last year we finished 7th. This year we finished 6-3-2 on 21 points and in 4th place. I have to think that even if we don't get promoted, we'll be in great shape for next year.
Exciting times for us. This game has been called, and I quote, "the most important game in the club's history".
When I joined the team last offseason, they were 1-3-7, finishing with 6 points just 1 place above relegation in 11th. Last year we finished 7th. This year we finished 6-3-2 on 21 points and in 4th place. I have to think that even if we don't get promoted, we'll be in great shape for next year.
Exciting times for us. This game has been called, and I quote, "the most important game in the club's history".
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Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Good luck!Man I'm glad we can't relegated out of our Y league. If that were the case we would drop every season.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I believe so. Seattle now has 2 DPs with N'Kufo and Fernandez, and they already "purchased" a 3rd DP slot. Now that 3rd slot is freed up with this trade, and the speculation Ive been reading is they may use that slot to retain Freddy Montero long termI'll be at PPL today, hoping that the Union's attack can overcome the sleep-inducing tactics of the Revs. Really hoping it's not 0-0
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Apparently the Buffalo Flash will be playing in the W-League (USL top division equivalent for women) final against the Vancouver Whitecaps. I didn't even know Buffalo had a team. Apparently their inaugural season was last year....kinda cool. I might check it out for a bit, but I struggle to watch women's soccer.
ETA: Game is on at 10 PM ET on FSC.
ETA: Game is on at 10 PM ET on FSC.
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NewlyRetired
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that was a tough dropping of two points for the Union last night. The Revs did not really deserve the draw and Phili needed the 3 points at home.Henry looks to have gotten off to a nice start with 2 assists to Angel in the 2-2 draw with Houston last night.
NewlyRetired
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http://www.socceramerica.com/article/39135...st-setback.html
Freddy Adu's future is again in limbo after his tryout at Swiss club Sion failed.
Sion was on the lookout for players because a one-year FIFA transfer ban will begin in January but it said Adu did not fit in with its plans.
"I know I'm going to be praying," Adu wrote on his Twitter account. "Until then I will be incognito."
Since joining Benfica in 2007, he has been loaned out to three teams, Monaco, Belenenses and Aris, but has failed to live up to expectations.
Freddy Adu's future is again in limbo after his tryout at Swiss club Sion failed.
Sion was on the lookout for players because a one-year FIFA transfer ban will begin in January but it said Adu did not fit in with its plans.
"I know I'm going to be praying," Adu wrote on his Twitter account. "Until then I will be incognito."
Since joining Benfica in 2007, he has been loaned out to three teams, Monaco, Belenenses and Aris, but has failed to live up to expectations.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Unbelievable game last night. It's amazing how often it comes down to the last second. We're the 4th seed in the playoffs (6-3-2, 21 points) playing against the 1st seed (8-2-1, 25 points), at their place.They come out confident, they're good team...they control the first 20 minutes or so before we start to create a few chances. But we keep them off the scoreboard and go into halftime 0-0.Second half, 60th (roughly) minute. They have a corner. Ball is played in and one of our defenders gets a head on it....but pops it up into the air. One of their players is on the backpost and actually chests it past the outstretched arms of our GK. Down 1-0. We start pushing forward and they start sitting back. We're generating a ton of chances but just can't finish. We get into stoppage time, the ref announces 2 minutes. They put a shot wide after about a minute, and we have a goal kick. Everyone rushes into the box, our GK included, as we all try to get anything on it. We have 9 players in their box and it gets crossed in, bounces around a few times, and falls right to one of our defenders - the same guy whose awkward header led to their goal. He takes a touch and places a perfect shot into the corner of the net....1-1 with just 30 seconds on the clock. They take the kickoff, and within seconds, the ref calls time.FIFA rules, 2 15-minute overtimes. We have all the momentum in the world, and their players just look stunned. We keep up the pressure, and a few minutes in, roughly the 97th, one of our strikers finally gets one. We go up 2-1 and manage to hold on for the win.It's our understanding that the 2 teams that meet in the championship are promoted, but we haven't gotten official word yet. Unfortunately, I will be out of town and will miss next Sunday's final.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Turns out our lower division team (our club fields 2 teams - not quite a first-team and reserve-team, more like a first-team and a team of older guys who used to play up but now want a little less competition) will be playing in their finals as well. Their league doesn't have promotion though. Good season all-around for us.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Sorry to keep clogging this thread with my own league exploits, but here's an interesting situation that has come up in a different league. This has no bearing on me, I don't even know the teams/players involved. But as a soccer fan, if you were the commissioner, what would you do? Sorry that it's so long....any thoughts?In the final game of the season, BUSS played against PFC. BUSS were in 2nd place at the time, PFC were in 6th. Over the course of the season, there had been rumblings that BUSS had been using ineligible (unregistered, meaning uninsured, which is a big no-no) players. The league, after hearing the numerous complaints, sent a board member to the BUSS/PFC game to check player credentials. The board member did not arrive until the game was nearing conclusion, presumably.PFC beat BUSS 4-1, putting them in 5th place (BUSS remained in 2nd). Top 4 teams make the promotion playoffs (this is the 2nd-highest league vying to make it to the Premier league). During this game, one of PFC's best players, "Bill", picked up his 4th yellow card. The league rules clearly state that when a player has aggregated 4 yellow cards, he is ineligible for the next game.In the postgame, the board member present reviewed player passes and asked BUSS players for extra identification. He determined that BUSS were using 2 ineligible players during BUSS/PFC game. The league by-laws read as follows (this applies to ineligible players as well, not just specifically unregistered ones...that's the argument):
In the aftermath, the league board made an executive decision: because there was no proof that BUSS had used ineligible players earlier in the season, their match results will stand. However, as they were caught cheating, they would not be allowed to play in the playoffs - moving PFC up to 4th and into the playoffs. The league did not specify the results of individual games, just that "the board made the decision to let the games stand, but remove them from the playoffs".PFC moved on and played CFC (1-seed) in the playoffs yesterday. Before the game, CFC's captain "reminded" PFC's captain that PFC's player, "Bill", had received a 4th yellow card and was ineligible, based on the comment that the "games stand". PFC called the league commissioner, who did not answer his phone, and left a message asking about Bill's status. PFC were short on players, and decided at halftime, with no response from the commissioner, to put Bill into the game. PFC upset CFC and won 2-0. CFC is disputing the result, citing the league bylaws above and the league board's comment about letting the games stand. PFC is saying the result should be upheld because if the league bylaws are to be followed, their game vs. BUSS should've been a BUSS forfeit - thus, Bill never received a 4th yellow card.I just think it's an interesting dilemma. What do you think? Anyone?
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
If the games stand then so does the yellow, IMO
How do you accumulate 4 yellows and get yourself suspended anyway?
WTF does he think he is, Paul Scholes?
How do you accumulate 4 yellows and get yourself suspended anyway?
WTF does he think he is, Paul Scholes?
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I think it all stems from poor wording by the league board. I think that, per their comment, the BUSS/PFC game stands, the yellow stands, and PFC forfeits their playoff game. But I can see their argument otherwise.
TU>I didn't even know the 4 YCs was a rule. I think the most that I've ever seen anyone on our team get is 2 in a season. 4 yellows in 11 games in a men's league, no matter how competitive, is kinda extreme.
TU>I didn't even know the 4 YCs was a rule. I think the most that I've ever seen anyone on our team get is 2 in a season. 4 yellows in 11 games in a men's league, no matter how competitive, is kinda extreme.
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Steve Tasker
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The ref was unaware of the card situation. In the past, the league has done a pretty good job of notifying both the teams and referees when a player is suspended, but there was no notification in this game. "Bill" had a player pass and was listed on the active roster, so for all the ref knew, he was an eligible player.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
CFC wins the appeal and moves on. PFC knew their was a card issue with Bill. The ref should have known, but didn't and PFC knowingly violated the rule.
Even if the completed last game was ruled a forfeit, Bill earned a yellow because of his play. Even if the game "didn't happen", Bill's foul did.
Even if the completed last game was ruled a forfeit, Bill earned a yellow because of his play. Even if the game "didn't happen", Bill's foul did.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
that's great - congrats Tasker.Steve Tasker said:
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
Donovan to Everton doesn't look good. 
Landon Donovan's Summer Transfer Options Dwindle
BALTIMORE -- If Landon Donovan is to move abroad this summer, it's looking more and more like it's going to be with a club other than the two with which he's most often linked.
Manchester City is remaining coy about their interest but appears to have put pursuit of the U.S. national team midfielder on the back burner, while Everton has said it won't be able to meet the Los Angeles Galaxy's asking price. The transfer window for most European leagues, including England, closes Aug. 31.
Everton manager David Moyes, who coached Donovan during his successful 13-game loan spell at Everton in January-March, has admitted that the Liverpool-based club "don't have the finances." The British media is reporting that the Galaxy may ask for as much as $17 million for Donovan's rights.
"Don't you think I've asked my chairman to make it happen?" Moyes said. " We'd love to have Landon but he looks too expensive for us and we just don't have it ... The price the MLS want for him is very big and it's an additional problem because of his age (28)."
Everton has been quiet this offseason following its eighth-place finish last season. "All we've done is spend £1 million on Magaye Gueye (from French club Strasbourg) so far. Jermaine Beckford (from Leeds United) and Jan Mucha (from Legia Warsaw) were free, so we've spent no money by Premier League standards and will probably be the ones who spend the least this season."
Meanwhile, Manchester City has spent plenty of money (an estimated $115 million) by any standard. The ambitious club already has signed David Silva (from Valencia), Jérôme Boateng (from Hamburg), Yaya Touré (from Barcelona) and Aleksandar Kolarov (from Lazio) and continues to be linked to Inter Milan's Mario Balotelli, Aston Villa's James Milner, Wolfsburg's Edin Dzeko and others. The roster is bursting at the seams.
Two weeks ago, City coach Roberto Mancini revealed that the club was targeting Donovan, among others, as it launches its bid for a place in the UEFA Champions League. Not much else was heard during the team's U.S. tour, which concluded Saturday night in Baltimore with a 3-0 loss to, of all teams, Inter. Any discussions between Donovan and City likely were exploratory and occurred through intermediaries. They may not have involved the Galaxy or MLS.
Mancini was forced to return to his native Italy due to his father's ailing health and he did not coach the team on Saturday. That responsibility fell to assistant Brian Kidd, who played in the North American Soccer League in the early 1980s. Kidd told FanHouse that he was unaware of any additional movement on the club's part regarding Donovan.
"I haven't heard anything personally, to be honest," he said.
City head of communications Vicky Kloss told FanHouse that the transfer window can be a real adventure for the club now that it's so well funded. "I think the first transfer window when Abu Dhabi had taken over in January 2009, I think we were linked with about seventy players. Seven-zero," she said. "We were actually in contact with about seven or eight, truly. And we brought in about five that window. So you have take it with an enormous pinch of salt, those kind of stories."
Kloss said City wouldn't shy away from investing in a player who may be part of a squad rotation plan, but that other clubs and agents often work to inflate a potential transfer fee because of City's wealth. The acquisition then becomes problematic, unless the player is a true global star. Donovan isn't.
The Galaxy's asking price clearly is too high for Everton. Is it too high for City and Abu Dhabi's millions as well?
"Everything is thought through, with our owners, everything is done by a plan. If you put forward a reasonable plan, there will be funds to resource that," Kloss said. "Now, we've had plenty of times we've walked away from players because the demands from the club are just utterly ludicrous ... We will get linked to players that we've never even had a conversation with, or their agents, because we're Manchester City. Chelsea would have suffered from that years ago and probably still do. Just to drive up the price."
City already has signed a few players, and it still has its eye on at least a couple more. It seems that the club genuinely would like to have Donovan, but it certainly doesn't need him, and there are plenty of reasons not to spend that much money on a 28-year-old who has never succeeded long-term in Europe. City has bigger fish to fry.
Donovan still may move abroad, but the transfer likely will involve a wealthy club that has kept its interest quiet. Not many teams will fit that description.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I heard that Liverpool has a potential buyer that says that Liverpool's shares are basically worthless as the value of the franchise is equal or less than its debt.
Basically bankrupt.
Does that mean that I can buy it for $1000 or something?
Basically bankrupt.
Does that mean that I can buy it for $1000 or something?
Sure, if you can service the debt.
I never liked Barca. The latest crap the players have been pulling with respect to Fabregas has cemented it. Those guys are a bunch of ##### bags:
http://www.tribalfootball.com/arsenal-midf...r-calls-1019511He's under contract, shut the #### up.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I think Gillette and Hicks are looking for something in the neighborhood of $800 mil.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
There was that post-world cup final lockerroom photo where Ramos and Puyol had put a Barca jersey on Cesc in the heat of the celebration. I remember thinking that picture must really be pissing off some people in north london.
bentley
Footballguy
That was Hicks talking out his ###. Think they're down to 500 or so now. Regardless, #### those guys.Last night my wife came home from Target and proudly presented me with a shirt from "that soccer team you like." It was a ManU shirt. Her only defense was that they both wear red. I told her that she was now my third favorite person in the world behind our son and Kenny Huang (the guy that's supposed to be leading the charge to buy Liverpool). She was not amused.
For those of you scoring along at home, Mack Brown is fourth on the list, followed by my parents and then Neftali Feliz.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Yep, let's take the word of someone who hasn't spoken to Cesc all summer on the situation. That's brilliant.
Yep, let's take the word of someone who hasn't spoken to Cesc all summer on the situation. That's brilliant.
I understand why you can't be honest in this situation. I don't understand why you think your opinion means anything when the crap these guys have pulled is more than well-documented.
Native
Footballguy
Yep, let's take the word of someone who hasn't spoken to Cesc all summer on the situation. That's brilliant.
May be in the minority, but I cant stand Barca. Arrogant pricks.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
One of my favorite players.Not exactly a shock though. Players are going to play through injuries in the World Cup. I doubt the Dutch or Robben have any regrets.If my wife came home with a Liverpool shirt, I would have knocked her down to bottom 10 for sure.IF she came home with a Chelsea or Barca shirt, I would have KHTFO
How can the wife of a lifetime Liverpool fan not know any better?!?!?!?
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Desert_Power
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All indications are that Cesc wants to return to Barca at some point and has told Arsenal management and his Spanish teammates this since May. I don't really see what is wrong with the players that are being asked about the situation saying that they think Cesc wants to return and that they would like him too, it happens all the time. Now it would be wrong if Barca(particularly Puyol) was making the comments your "article" and The Sun attributed to them, but Puyol has claimed that is fake. That doesn't sound more than well-documented to me. But, I wouldn't expect you to let facts get in the way of your ranting against BarcelonaYep, let's take the word of someone who hasn't spoken to Cesc all summer on the situation. That's brilliant.I understand why you can't be honest in this situation. I don't understand why you think your opinion means anything when the crap these guys have pulled is more than well-documented.
NMYMND
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bentley
Footballguy
I KNOW! After all the struggles and pain we've been through over the last 18 WHOLE MONTHS of fandom, you think she'd appreciate it more.
GoFishTN
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El Floppo
Footballguy
MLS stuff...
Rafa might debut this weekend vs Fire- coach is saying he'll play holding MF role... Henry added 2 assists to Angel last weekend vs Dynamo. This could be something nice.
Mathis is retiring! Always loved this guy for his fearlessness and moxie (not his fitness)- I'm always suprised when I hear that's he's still around, but will miss him now that he'll be gone.
Onalfo fired as coach of DC. Yeah. No ####.
Rafa might debut this weekend vs Fire- coach is saying he'll play holding MF role... Henry added 2 assists to Angel last weekend vs Dynamo. This could be something nice.
Mathis is retiring! Always loved this guy for his fearlessness and moxie (not his fitness)- I'm always suprised when I hear that's he's still around, but will miss him now that he'll be gone.
Onalfo fired as coach of DC. Yeah. No ####.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Props to Seattle and Toronto for getting through to the CCL group stages.
Surviving in Central American road games - that's progress.
Now can LA beat PRI by 4 tonight to put 5 MLS teams in the groups? Unlikely but stranger things have happened.
Surviving in Central American road games - that's progress.
Now can LA beat PRI by 4 tonight to put 5 MLS teams in the groups? Unlikely but stranger things have happened.
El Floppo
Footballguy
all around. I thought Seattle and Tonto were done- sounded like DPs played major roles in both?And stranger than LA winning by 4 would still be LA losing 4-1 at home to PR. They are free-falling... went down 3-0 in the first 20 minutes last weekend to the Fire. Defense looked ragged and open to each and every counter- even if their MF controlled most of the game offensively.Red Stars in full ascent.
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