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Might not be such a bad thing actually since he's played like horse#### this season.
He hasn't look good in a while....even in the WC he was lazy and looked down all the time. Sell him, Maxi Rodriguez and Babel. Bring in Gomez and a midfield upgrade. N'goal needs to see the field more too.
 
Great second half for Barca. Valencia outplayed them in the first. Scary game and good win.
They're just not clicking very well this year. There is a painfully high amount of Keita and Maxwell in the line-ups. Having to play Iniesta at a forward is really hurting the midfield flow, hopefully Jefecito can get up to speed quicker and free up Busquets to play in a more attacking role. Bojan has just been an abject failure so far this season, which is surprising given how strong he finished last campaign.
 
Did I miss somebody posting about the WC votes allegedly for sale? I'm sooooo shocked .... :goodposting:
our poor sport is such a mess off the field.
Not surprised at all that Nigeria is one of the federations implicated.
Was Nigeria the federation that was basically cancelled by FIFA at some point recently? If they were, how are they even on the balloting committee.
The Nigerian president shut the team down and was going to hold them out of international competitions for 2 years due to their poor showing at the WC until FIFA intervened
 
Great second half for Barca. Valencia outplayed them in the first. Scary game and good win.
They're just not clicking very well this year. There is a painfully high amount of Keita and Maxwell in the line-ups. Having to play Iniesta at a forward is really hurting the midfield flow, hopefully Jefecito can get up to speed quicker and free up Busquets to play in a more attacking role. Bojan has just been an abject failure so far this season, which is surprising given how strong he finished last campaign.
They had "no teeth" in the first. Made me long for Ibra or Eto'o to push Villa on the wing.
 
The Nigerian president shut the team down and was going to hold them out of international competitions for 2 years due to their poor showing at the WC until FIFA intervened
Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan's Facebook feed is very entertaining. I'm afraid clicking his like button would be an invitation to every spammer in the country, but it's worth the occasional look.
 
Brady Marino said:
Hey John Henry. You just got yourself a Premier League team that's historically prolific, but is desperately needs an injection of life. Please look into this. TIAOn a more serious note, how would Rooney fit with Liverpool? Would he play well with Torres?
I guess no one is above it but I've always liked Rooney and going back to Pool to play for the Reds would be a first class doosh move. I don't think it would be good at all for his image and he's already being beaten up in the press. If he has anyone worth their salt advising him, he would never consider Anfield as a destination. To me, there aren't many destinations in England that make sense. Newcastle maybe?
 
Bojan has just been an abject failure so far this season, which is surprising given how strong he finished last campaign.
If I were manager, he'd never play. But I have a real problem with guys with a dive first mentality. It bleeds over into the rest of the team and hurts work ethic imo. No idea how Pep feels about him but it wouldn't really shock me for him to be shipped in the January window.
 
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Kind of a weird article in that both Cherundolo and Bocanegra are listed as first at their spots, regardless of age, yet Brian Ching doesn't even place on a list that includes Teal Burnberry. I understand why Bradley brought Findley to the World Cup, but I think not choosing Ching hurt the team.
Well Dolo and Boca are still far and away the best fullbacks we have. Ching is what he is and was never great but always hard working. I have no problem with him and wouldn't mind his inclusion but it's not like he was ever Brian McBride or anything.
 
Brady Marino said:
Hey John Henry. You just got yourself a Premier League team that's historically prolific, but is desperately needs an injection of life. Please look into this. TIAOn a more serious note, how would Rooney fit with Liverpool? Would he play well with Torres?
I guess no one is above it but I've always liked Rooney and going back to Pool to play for the Reds would be a first class doosh move. I don't think it would be good at all for his image and he's already being beaten up in the press. If he has anyone worth their salt advising him, he would never consider Anfield as a destination. To me, there aren't many destinations in England that make sense. Newcastle maybe?
It's a testament to how much his star has fallen that there don't appear to be a lot of obvious options. Most of the teams that can afford him can afford to rotate him, which isn't going to make him happy. Maybe the transfer market will pick up or injuries will strike between now and January but it's hard to see any Premier League sides who'll be willing to break the bank for him.There historically aren't many English players who've had a lot of success abroad, and Rooney doesn't exactly seem the cosmopolitan type.
 
... it wouldn't really shock me for him to be shipped in the January window.
Not gonna happen. He's the drop-in replacement for a lot of players there and is seen as a future star for them. He won't get shipped, but a loan is a small possibility I suppose.I'm still shocked that Valencia is playing so well after losing a lot of their top-level talent in the off season. They pushed Barça for much of the game.
 
... it wouldn't really shock me for him to be shipped in the January window.
Not gonna happen. He's the drop-in replacement for a lot of players there and is seen as a future star for them. He won't get shipped, but a loan is a small possibility I suppose.
Simply aren't deep enough at forward to ship him off outright. He has been seen as a future star for a long time, but if he cannot be favored over Messi and Iniesta for CF, it may be time to give up on him. I don't think he is really a top drop-in replacement; Pedro took that slot away from him by being more versatile and having a better nose for the goal. I would expect a true 9 to be brought in during the winter window, at least if we have plans to win anything.
 
Kind of a weird article in that both Cherundolo and Bocanegra are listed as first at their spots, regardless of age, yet Brian Ching doesn't even place on a list that includes Teal Burnberry. I understand why Bradley brought Findley to the World Cup, but I think not choosing Ching hurt the team.
Well Dolo and Boca are still far and away the best fullbacks we have. Ching is what he is and was never great but always hard working. I have no problem with him and wouldn't mind his inclusion but it's not like he was ever Brian McBride or anything.
I'm with you about McBride. Not exactly a guy that is going to set the world on fire or win games on his own for the US.I was highly disappointed that given his performance in his last friendly before the WC, he didn't get the call. He showed all of the best of his abilities in that game: heart, workrate, aerial strength but mainly it's getting his team-mates involved positively. I understand why Bradley took Findley- he gave the US it's best shot at approximating the attacking shape Davies gave us- but given performance, and what the team (in hindsight) needed- it should have been Ching.At this point, there is absolutely no reason to talk about him. He's at the end of a successful career, but is already too old/minimally useful for the beginning of the WCQ cycle, let alone the WC in Brazil.
 
... it wouldn't really shock me for him to be shipped in the January window.
Not gonna happen. He's the drop-in replacement for a lot of players there and is seen as a future star for them. He won't get shipped, but a loan is a small possibility I suppose.
Simply aren't deep enough at forward to ship him off outright. He has been seen as a future star for a long time, but if he cannot be favored over Messi and Iniesta for CF, it may be time to give up on him. I don't think he is really a top drop-in replacement; Pedro took that slot away from him by being more versatile and having a better nose for the goal. I would expect a true 9 to be brought in during the winter window, at least if we have plans to win anything.
This is kind of how I feel. In line in front of him are Messi, Villa, Pedro for sure and Iniesta moves up top as first fill in. And from what I've seen he's no better than Jeffrén. So if they bring in a real forward in January, and they seem to be linked to everyone, he falls even further down the depth chart. Add Cesc in the offseason (which frees up Iniesta even more) and it's not like he's behind a bunch of old guys and will move up that list down the line. And yeah, maybe he blossoms later but he just doesn't seem to have the right mentality to be an elite player. I don't know if it will happen (and it probably won't), but I'm just saying it wouldn't shock me.
 
Kind of a weird article in that both Cherundolo and Bocanegra are listed as first at their spots, regardless of age, yet Brian Ching doesn't even place on a list that includes Teal Burnberry. I understand why Bradley brought Findley to the World Cup, but I think not choosing Ching hurt the team.
Well Dolo and Boca are still far and away the best fullbacks we have. Ching is what he is and was never great but always hard working. I have no problem with him and wouldn't mind his inclusion but it's not like he was ever Brian McBride or anything.
I'm with you about McBride. Not exactly a guy that is going to set the world on fire or win games on his own for the US.I was highly disappointed that given his performance in his last friendly before the WC, he didn't get the call. He showed all of the best of his abilities in that game: heart, workrate, aerial strength but mainly it's getting his team-mates involved positively. I understand why Bradley took Findley- he gave the US it's best shot at approximating the attacking shape Davies gave us- but given performance, and what the team (in hindsight) needed- it should have been Ching.At this point, there is absolutely no reason to talk about him. He's at the end of a successful career, but is already too old/minimally useful for the beginning of the WCQ cycle, let alone the WC in Brazil.
He could still be in the frame for the Gold Cup.
 
http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articl...vive_liverpool/

Thrift key as new owners look to revive Liverpool

LIVERPOOL, England—John Henry has cautioned that his Boston Red Sox ownership group will not throw cash at reviving fallen English giant Liverpool.

Henry met with supporters and local lawmakers Monday and afterwards confirmed that New England Sports Ventures would first seek to repair the ties between the club and the community that were damaged while Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr., the previous owners, were in control.

"We met with supporter groups. We didn't give any assurances -- we're here to listen and to learn from them, and we learned a lot today," Henry said. "I think the biggest issue was the sense of disenfranchisement and their sense of not being a part of their own club, so that's what we discussed. This was a big first step today."

The urgency of the task facing Henry was underlined Sunday -- two days after New England Sports Ventures completed its $476-million takeover of Liverpool -- when the team lost 2-0 at neighbor Everton. The result kept the Reds marooned in the Premier League's relegation zone on just six points from eight games.

But Henry has warned that NESV will be frugal owners, quipping: "I don't have 'Sheikh' in front of my name."

"When we spend a dollar, it has to be wisely," the American tycoon said. "We cannot afford player contracts that do not make long-term sense. We have to be smart, bold, aggressive."

So if manager Roy Hodgson wants funds to strengthen a squad that is currently heading toward the second tier, the commercial department will have to get busy.

"When we looked at Liverpool, the first thing that struck was there are opportunities here to really build a winner," Henry said. "The revenue potentials around the world -- it is a global football club -- and especially with the financial fair play rules, it is really going to be revenue that drives how good your club can be in the future. That is one thing that we think we are good at."

Red Sox fans across the Atlantic can testify to that.

"When we arrived at the Red Sox (in 2002), the New York Yankees were a juggernaut and it wasn't that much of rivalry," Henry said. "We turned it into a rivalry where we have gone toe-to-toe with the Yankees even though they have got a much higher revenue.

"They keep going up but we have gone up faster. We have got to the point where if you look at our wins and losses against the Yankees over the last nine years, we are almost dead even. ... If you think Boston is somehow on a par economically with New York, that's simply not true."

 
prefontaine said:
Slapdash said:
The Z Machine said:
prefontaine said:
... it wouldn't really shock me for him to be shipped in the January window.
Not gonna happen. He's the drop-in replacement for a lot of players there and is seen as a future star for them. He won't get shipped, but a loan is a small possibility I suppose.
Simply aren't deep enough at forward to ship him off outright. He has been seen as a future star for a long time, but if he cannot be favored over Messi and Iniesta for CF, it may be time to give up on him. I don't think he is really a top drop-in replacement; Pedro took that slot away from him by being more versatile and having a better nose for the goal. I would expect a true 9 to be brought in during the winter window, at least if we have plans to win anything.
This is kind of how I feel. In line in front of him are Messi, Villa, Pedro for sure and Iniesta moves up top as first fill in. And from what I've seen he's no better than Jeffrén. So if they bring in a real forward in January, and they seem to be linked to everyone, he falls even further down the depth chart. Add Cesc in the offseason (which frees up Iniesta even more) and it's not like he's behind a bunch of old guys and will move up that list down the line. And yeah, maybe he blossoms later but he just doesn't seem to have the right mentality to be an elite player.

I don't know if it will happen (and it probably won't), but I'm just saying it wouldn't shock me.
I largely agree with you, particularly regarding Cesc. I really hoped that Keirrison would be the future up top, but he hasn't been impressive on loan. I expect Bojan to find himself on loan or sold after this campaign if he doesn't stop whiffing his open chances.
 
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so bitterly disappointed, as it appears Rooney's time with United is short.

He is being sat again today in CL match due to an "ankle injury" and if you read between the lines here (and the fact he hasn't spoke to SAF in a month) it all but appears he is gone, and United will be forced to sell him as he will not be re-signing.

:rolleyes:

I have no idea where he ends up....I really hope it's not another EPL team. United direly need a midfield, with an almost finished Scholes and Giggs who can barely keep their health playing 60% of the time, and after that you have a whole lot of mediocrity in Carrick, Parks, Valencia is disappointing, Nani has flashes of brilliance, but cannot control the midfield play at all, rather an attacking wing, Hargreaves hasn't been seen in nearly 2 years, Anderson needs to be shipped off......maybe this will free up some cash to make a big signing? I dunno, but I'm going to miss Rooney miles more than I'll miss Ronaldo or Tevez. Attack may still be okay, Machedo and Oberton have shown tons of effort and desire, and Hernandez could make a top flight striker with a little polishing. Berbatov is very solid this year.

:lmao:

 
so bitterly disappointed, as it appears Rooney's time with United is short.He is being sat again today in CL match due to an "ankle injury" and if you read between the lines here (and the fact he hasn't spoke to SAF in a month) it all but appears he is gone, and United will be forced to sell him as he will not be re-signing.:banned:I have no idea where he ends up....I really hope it's not another EPL team. United direly need a midfield, with an almost finished Scholes and Giggs who can barely keep their health playing 60% of the time, and after that you have a whole lot of mediocrity in Carrick, Parks, Valencia is disappointing, Nani has flashes of brilliance, but cannot control the midfield play at all, rather an attacking wing, Hargreaves hasn't been seen in nearly 2 years, Anderson needs to be shipped off......maybe this will free up some cash to make a big signing? I dunno, but I'm going to miss Rooney miles more than I'll miss Ronaldo or Tevez. Attack may still be okay, Machedo and Oberton have shown tons of effort and desire, and Hernandez could make a top flight striker with a little polishing. Berbatov is very solid this year. :X
Yeah, I'm fearing the worst. They're still pretty sharp defensively, and I like Fletcher, Nani, and Valencia in the midfield, but they need a playmaker. Rooney just creates so much with his effort, how do you replace that?
 
so bitterly disappointed, as it appears Rooney's time with United is short.

He is being sat again today in CL match due to an "ankle injury" and if you read between the lines here (and the fact he hasn't spoke to SAF in a month) it all but appears he is gone, and United will be forced to sell him as he will not be re-signing.

:goodposting:

I have no idea where he ends up....I really hope it's not another EPL team. United direly need a midfield, with an almost finished Scholes and Giggs who can barely keep their health playing 60% of the time, and after that you have a whole lot of mediocrity in Carrick, Parks, Valencia is disappointing, Nani has flashes of brilliance, but cannot control the midfield play at all, rather an attacking wing, Hargreaves hasn't been seen in nearly 2 years, Anderson needs to be shipped off......maybe this will free up some cash to make a big signing? I dunno, but I'm going to miss Rooney miles more than I'll miss Ronaldo or Tevez. Attack may still be okay, Machedo and Oberton have shown tons of effort and desire, and Hernandez could make a top flight striker with a little polishing. Berbatov is very solid this year.

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Yeah, I'm fearing the worst. They're still pretty sharp defensively, and I like Fletcher, Nani, and Valencia in the midfield, but they need a playmaker. Rooney just creates so much with his effort, how do you replace that?
You just can't. It would be a huge mistake to let him go. It seems like slowly United is losing their playmakers and I don’t think the replacements are up to par, yet. When they had Ronaldo, Tevez, and Rooney they could overwhelm any backline, the goals almost had to come. Now I can’t figure out just who is supposed to scare opposing teams. They have great talent but I don't know who can be the playmaker and generate the chances, particularly against top sides.
 
I'd love to see them add one of those young German playmakers. Very different player than Rooney, but Schweinsteiger at United would be awesome. That said, I'm at a loss for the most part on who they could add this year to remain competitive at a top level. Knowing Fergie, he won't panic and sell the farm to get someone immediately. They're likely looking at couple down years while they get their #### together.

 
Bonzai said:
I'd love to see them add one of those young German playmakers. Very different player than Rooney, but Schweinsteiger at United would be awesome. That said, I'm at a loss for the most part on who they could add this year to remain competitive at a top level. Knowing Fergie, he won't panic and sell the farm to get someone immediately. They're likely looking at couple down years while they get their #### together.
I could see Bale making the move... but now that Spurs are Euro contenders, they might be less inclined to sell. They'd need others as well.
 
Bonzai said:
I'd love to see them add one of those young German playmakers. Very different player than Rooney, but Schweinsteiger at United would be awesome. That said, I'm at a loss for the most part on who they could add this year to remain competitive at a top level. Knowing Fergie, he won't panic and sell the farm to get someone immediately. They're likely looking at couple down years while they get their #### together.
I think a lot of United targets were locked up pretty good and long in the off season. Ozil, Bale, Modric off the top of my head. Germans don't necessarily fare well in the epl. There is going to be a huge bidding war on Bastian Schweinsteiger as I'm pretty sure he is the most prominent guy with a contract up....again I haven't looked into it too much. Kaka is available, but I don't see United going after him.
 
some great trivia I'm sure everyone will be interested in regarding the opening goal in today's CL game between Chelsea and Spartak. Yuri Zhirkov's score was his first ever goal for Chelsea in a competitive game since being signed over a year ago; also was the first goal ever scored by a Russian against a Russian team in Champions League history and the first goal given up by Spartak in this year's CL.

Blues TCB; up 0-2 at the half in near freezing temps in Moscow.

 
Cadú for Cluj puts one in each net! Bayern and Cluj knotted at 1-1 in the 32nd minute.

eta

A second own goal for Cluj and Bayern is up 2-1!

 
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RM vs Milan.... yummy. Wish I had remembered to DVR it. :hot:
can set the DVR via the internet? We can do that for the Direct TV boxes.
we're in our post-fire sublet... everythings all ####ed up.
Sucks floppo. I think FSC will replay this tonight though. I was showing a friend how to use the Directv app to record last night and I thought I remembered they were replaying it. Madrid is destroying them though. Milan has had a few opportunities but they are taking desperate chances and leaving themselves in bad positions on the counter. I would be surprise if Madrid doesn't score a couple more. My guess is this match ends about 4-1.Oh, and :lol: at Seedorf diving out of the way of the ball while in the wall on the first goal. If it wasn't such a crazy thought that an Italian team could be fixing a game, I would think he might have done it on purpose :popcorn:
 
Sucks floppo. I think FSC will replay this tonight though. I was showing a friend how to use the Directv app to record last night and I thought I remembered they were replaying it.
I don't see it on the schedule to be replayed on FSC, but they could be replaying it on your local FSN affiliate. They do that sometimes.
 
Nice to read that the Emirates faithful gave Eduardo a standing ovation upon his entrance today.
That was one of the ugliest broken legs in the history of broken legs.
Agreed. I think I referenced a "reverse-Eduardo" the other day when discussing Wilshere's terrible tackle on the Birmingham player.I'm just glad he's back on the field and playing. He might not have been a prototypical "top 4 EPL" type of striker, but he was serviceable, and you could always count him to make a decent play. Sad to see him go, but it was probably for the best for his career.
 

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