***Official Soccer Discussion Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[Steve Tasker]

Bradley should have put that home.

I wish he would've, but that's still an extremely difficult shot...

 

[NewlyRetired]

Unreal goal. We needed Timmy to have a monster game and he has not made one big stop all night

Worst I've seen Howard play in a while.

Who is the future after Howard?

No one yet. Timmy has been phenomenal all tournament. For those guys who are only watching this game don't be fooled by one bad game. Assuming no injury he is the keeper for at least 4-5 more years.

 

[NutterButter]

Can anyone blame this on Bob Bradley?

Can see how you could. Mexico just has far more skilled players

 

[Rustoleum]

Can the US remove the whole back line and just put a U-8 team in the box?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Can anyone blame this on Bob Bradley?

Hard to blame him for having 3 starters and his best bench player hurt. The US is lucky to have made the final IMO.

 

[NewlyRetired]

great chip by Dos Santoslooking forward to playing these bastards when we've got Chandler, Dolo, Altidore

Your missing two extremely important players in Holden and Benny.

 

[LHUCKS]

So where does Adu fit in with a completely healthy roster...super-sub??

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Can anyone blame this on Bob Bradley?

I don't see how to be honest. Coming into the tournament Mexico was clearly the huge favorite on paper, Bob was actually pretty ballsy with his formations and personnel the last three matches (exhibit A: Freddy Adu).Just have to tip your hat to Mexico, they're just the better team right now (I just threw up in my mouth a little typing that)

 

[NewlyRetired]

Jesus this thread has gotten frustrating with people who have watched the team play exactly one game in a year suddenly believing they know everything about the team.

Guys chill please.

 

[LHUCKS]

great chip by Dos Santoslooking forward to playing these bastards when we've got Chandler, Dolo, Altidore

Your missing two extremely important players in Holden and Benny.

Holden agreed...Benny is the most overrated player in this thread IMHO.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Bradley was useless on the ball to Dos Santos most of the night.

 

[NutterButter]

Ok stupid question, but what the hell is that Mexican forward's name. He's got Chacharito on his shirt, but they keep referring to him as Havier Hernandez. What's up with that?

 

[NewlyRetired]

So where does Adu fit in with a completely healthy roster...super-sub??

It will depend on what he does at club level. If he playing he is likely going to be on the roster.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Ok stupid question, but what the hell is that Mexican forward's name. He's got Chacharito on his shirt, but they keep referring to him as Havier Hernandez. What's up with that?

It's a nickname. His real name is Javier Hernandez.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Ok stupid question, but what the hell is that Mexican forward's name. He's got Chacharito on his shirt, but they keep referring to him as Havier Hernandez. What's up with that?

Javier Hernandez is his name...his nickname is "Chicharito", aka "Little Pea". He has Chicharito on his jersey.

 

[LHUCKS]

Bradley firing wide, Dempsey of the crossbar.

Surprisingly, this could easily be tied.

 

[whoknew]

Jesus this thread has gotten frustrating with people who have watched the team play exactly one game in a year suddenly believing they know everything about the team. Guys chill please.

Funny. I was just thinking how annoying it is when soccer snobs discourage new fans from enjoying and learning about the game.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

And fair play to Mexico tonight, I joked about the rolling around earlier but they stayed on their feet and played us straight up. Respect for that.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Jesus this thread has gotten frustrating with people who have watched the team play exactly one game in a year suddenly believing they know everything about the team. Guys chill please.

Just asking questions here. Would you prefer that we didn't tune in at all so the team toils in anonymity?

Almost every game in the Gold Cup has been sold out. Just because you are not watching, plenty of others are. Oh and questions are fantastic. Statements made to look like facts after watching a team play 75 minutes in a year is always going to be fraught with problems IMO.

 

[LHUCKS]

So where does Adu fit in with a completely healthy roster...super-sub??

It will depend on what he does at club level. If he playing he is likely going to be on the roster.

I think it's a given he's on the WC Qualifying roster.I'm wondering where he fits in if/when everybody is healthy from a playing time and strategic perspective.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Jesus this thread has gotten frustrating with people who have watched the team play exactly one game in a year suddenly believing they know everything about the team. Guys chill please.

Mexico is clearly better, but many US players played poorly tonight.

 

[NutterButter]

Jesus this thread has gotten frustrating with people who have watched the team play exactly one game in a year suddenly believing they know everything about the team. Guys chill please.

Funny. I was just thinking how annoying it is when soccer snobs discourage new fans from enjoying and learning about the game.

Yeah seriously

 

[ffldrew]

tough night in the office for Howard

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trying hard not to think of the result of the play, should Lichai have taken the red card on the 4th goal?

 

[Chaos Commish]

I hate this thread. I never would have bothered to find that mess on Mexican tv if not for this thread. That sucked.

 

[LHUCKS]

Jesus this thread has gotten frustrating with people who have watched the team play exactly one game in a year suddenly believing they know everything about the team. Guys chill please.

Funny. I was just thinking how annoying it is when soccer snobs discourage new fans from enjoying and learning about the game.

 

[LHUCKS]

tough night in the office for Howard

I can't think of a worse performance by him.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Trying hard not to think of the result of the play, should Lichai have taken the red card on the 4th goal?

I think they can still award the goal in that situation, and the red card.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trying hard not to think of the result of the play, should Lichai have taken the red card on the 4th goal?

I think he had to assume that the shot would not have been placed as perfectly as it was. There was no room for error based on how high Lichaj got up.

I agree, it was inch perfect. And Dolo never would have got to that shot either.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Trying hard not to think of the result of the play, should Lichai have taken the red card on the 4th goal?

I think he had to assume that the shot would not have been placed as perfectly as it was. There was no room for error based on how high Lichaj got up.

Agree - PK is like a 95-99% certain goal, the odds were far less on the Gio shot. It was just perfect placement, what can you do?

 

[LHUCKS]

I'd really like to know what's going on with Landon...disappeared in the second half.

The two non-starts were a bit weird too.

 

[ffldrew]

tough night in the office for Howard

I can't think of a worse performance by him.

And for crying out loud - Dolo goes out and the whole team collapses like a house of cards - one guy has that much of an effect?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trying hard not to think of the result of the play, should Lichai have taken the red card on the 4th goal?

I think they can still award the goal in that situation, and the red card.

Oh didn't know that. They must have tweaked a rule some where along the way. I know in the past it was a red and a PK.

 

[Slapdash]

tough night in the office for Howard

I can't think of a worse performance by him.

And for crying out loud - Dolo goes out and the whole team collapses like a house of cards - one guy has that much of an effect?

The team wasn't going to win with him in either.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

tough night in the office for Howard

I can't think of a worse performance by him.

And for crying out loud - Dolo goes out and the whole team collapses like a house of cards - one guy has that much of an effect?

Not really - they likely lose anyway. Maybe 3-2 instead of 4-2, but still

 

[Steve Tasker]

I hope our newer fans stick around for the long-term and keep asking questions in the thread...more the merrier...

 

[Spartans Rule]

tough night in the office for Howard

I can't think of a worse performance by him.

And for crying out loud - Dolo goes out and the whole team collapses like a house of cards - one guy has that much of an effect?

That was one of the worst guys for us to lose, but it's not like the defense was airtight before he went out. Mexico easily could've had 2-3 goals before Dolo left.

 

[LHUCKS]

tough night in the office for Howard

I can't think of a worse performance by him.

And for crying out loud - Dolo goes out and the whole team collapses like a house of cards - one guy has that much of an effect?

Yeah, they definitely did not rise to the occasion...quite the opposite actually.

 

[ffldrew]

tough night in the office for Howard

I can't think of a worse performance by him.

And for crying out loud - Dolo goes out and the whole team collapses like a house of cards - one guy has that much of an effect?

The defense started out shaky even before the injury. I don't think it would have changed much.

They came down their right side like it was a German Autobahn

 

[NewlyRetired]

Trying hard not to think of the result of the play, should Lichai have taken the red card on the 4th goal?

I think he had to assume that the shot would not have been placed as perfectly as it was. There was no room for error based on how high Lichaj got up.

Agree - PK is like a 95-99% certain goal, the odds were far less on the Gio shot. It was just perfect placement, what can you do?

Pk's I don't think are that high a %. I think it is more in the 70-75% range. Can't find it online though.

 

[Slapdash]

Good match in the attach from Adu, Landon, and Dempsey. The rest of the team was not very good tonight, but what else is new.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I hope our newer fans stick around for the long-term and keep asking questions in the thread...more the merrier...

Absolutely. The more questions the better. Sadly though I think a lot of people are like Genedoc who like the sport but have a hard time following club level because of no connection, which is very understandable.

 

[ffldrew]

Good match in the attach from Adu, Landon, and Dempsey. The rest of the team was not very good tonight, but what else is new.

Here is something I thought I would never find a way to post - but Freddy Adu was the USA MOTM

 

[NewlyRetired]

Good match in the attach from Adu, Landon, and Dempsey. The rest of the team was not very good tonight, but what else is new.

I didn't think Landon or Dempsey played well in the second half. Freddy was pretty consistent until he was subbed. Losing the Confed Cup placement hurts but if we trade it for Freddy's coming out party it may hurt a little less.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Trying hard not to think of the result of the play, should Lichai have taken the red card on the 4th goal?

I think they can still award the goal in that situation, and the red card.

I guess it would just be a PK. Still not worth the red imo

 

[LHUCKS]

Good match in the attach from Adu, Landon, and Dempsey. The rest of the team was not very good tonight, but what else is new.

I thought Bocanegra was solid given the circumstances.Howard, Bornstein, Goodson, Jones, Bedoya, Lichaj were all terrible.Lichaj gets a pass because he's still very inexperienced.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Good match in the attach from Adu, Landon, and Dempsey. The rest of the team was not very good tonight, but what else is new.

Here is something I thought I would never find a way to post - but Freddy Adu was the USA MOTM

I agree on both points And ironically, even though the team gave up 4 goals, I think Boca did ok.

 

[TLEF316]

ugh, that hurts.

Horrible night for Timmy. Flat footed on 2 goals, late to react on the other 2.

I know we probably would have lost anyway, but Bornstein was partially responsible for the first 2 goals. He's absolutely useless. I actually uttered the phrase "I wish Bornestein would die" at one point tonight.

Not proud of that one

 

[LHUCKS]

I didn't think Landon or Dempsey played well in the second half.

Agreed...I think there's something wrong with Landon from a cardio perspective. He has not been the same player.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I didn't think Landon or Dempsey played well in the second half.

Agreed...I think there's something wrong with Landon from a cardio perspective. He has not been the same player.

I still believe he is slowing down as a player. Others believe he is hurt. Guess we will know certainly when qualifying starts next year.