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[Moe.]

Ugh, Bornstein

Was Spector on the bench? Should have left Lichaj over there and brought him on.

 

[Genedoc]

Who had 3 goals in 30 minutes in the office pool?

 

[NutterButter]

Mexico has had a ton of opportunities

 

[Steve Tasker]

Crowd getting noticeably louder.

 

[Genedoc]

Our best D seems be possessing the ball and attacking. Turtling has resulted in a shooting gallery.

That looked like an awful yellow on LD.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Still hard to be upset.

No Holden, no Benny, no Jozy and Cher gets Cher gets hurt immediately and we are still up for now.

 

[Bonzai]

Forgot Bedoya was even on the field.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Mikey be selfish there

 

[Steve Tasker]

"ouch"

 

[Bonzai]

It was a good run.

 

[Chaos Commish]

 

[ffldrew]

should have left that go

 

[NewlyRetired]

Smart of Hernandez to not touch that.

 

[Genedoc]

I thought D was our strength. We pooped away a 2 goal lead in minutes.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I thought D was our strength. We pooped away a 2 goal lead in minutes.

D is not the US strength. Midfield is.

 

[Genedoc]

LD farts on a guy, draws a yellow. Adu gets intentionally kicked in the face...nothing.

 

[ffldrew]

i guess Bradley wants a hat trick

 

[NewlyRetired]

Got to get to half here

Sadly I don't see the make shift back line holding. Mexico is going to score a few more I fear.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I thought D was our strength. We pooped away a 2 goal lead in minutes.

D is not the US strength. Midfield is.

Especially with Bornstein in there. The stepdown from Cherundolo to him really shows tonight.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Mexico has now used 2 subs which means DiNigris should be the last one.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I thought D was our strength. We pooped away a 2 goal lead in minutes.

D is not the US strength. Midfield is.

Especially with Bornstein in there. The stepdown from Cherundolo to him really shows tonight.

Yeah and the second goal Lichai should have done better with too

 

[Steve Tasker]

Goodson just got smoked by Gio

 

[ffldrew]

with a two goal lead you should be marking the front guys on the hip - sadly we're just letting them run on by

 

[NewlyRetired]

Whatever happened to that giant defender we had - Guchioni (sp???)? I knew he ripped up his knee, but shouldn't he have been recovered and on this team by now?

Onyewu. He is on the team but has not played a minute all tournament and did not dress tonight. His form never recovered after the injury.

 

[LHUCKS]

that half flew by

 

[Steve Tasker]

Whatever happened to that giant defender we had - Guchioni (sp???)? I knew he ripped up his knee, but shouldn't he have been recovered and on this team by now?

Onyewu. He is on the team but has not played a minute all tournament and did not dress tonight. His form never recovered after the injury.

Yep, shame too. I think he's done for good.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Bob had one other choice in back but it was likely worse than the one he used.

He could have subbed in Ream for Cher and pushed Boca out wide again.

 

[TLEF316]

well, that's disappointing.

#### Bornstein

 

[NewlyRetired]

Whatever happened to that giant defender we had - Guchioni (sp???)? I knew he ripped up his knee, but shouldn't he have been recovered and on this team by now?

Onyewu. He is on the team but has not played a minute all tournament and did not dress tonight. His form never recovered after the injury.

Yep, shame too. I think he's done for good.

I think I agree, at least at the international level.

 

[NewlyRetired]

well, that's disappointing. #### Bornstein

Think of it as tied at half. If anyone told you that before the game you would have been ok. And I hate Bornstein as much as anyone but he is in a terrible spot here.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Bob had one other choice in back but it was likely worse than the one he used. He could have subbed in Ream for Cher and pushed Boca out wide again.

But Mexico was still getting good scoring opportunities even before Cherendolo left. I'm not sure the score would be different without the injury.

Probably true but there is no one who hoped Bornstein would be in this game over Cher.

 

[NutterButter]

Bob had one other choice in back but it was likely worse than the one he used. He could have subbed in Ream for Cher and pushed Boca out wide again.

But Mexico was still getting good scoring opportunities even before Cherendolo left. I'm not sure the score would be different without the injury.

 

[Moe.]

Bob had one other choice in back but it was likely worse than the one he used. He could have subbed in Ream for Cher and pushed Boca out wide again.

Or he could have put Spector in. Probably not that much better of an option.

 

[NewlyRetired]

This feels like a 4-2, 5-2 type game.

Bradley needs to figure out whether to give up offensively and try and get this to OT. I am not sure what tactically he can do here.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Serious question - I know he's at the very tail-end of his career and plays right back, but would you rather have Frankie Hejduk on the roster than Bornstein? I think I might.

 

[LHUCKS]

man, we just are way too weak defensively for us to have much hope here

over/under on Mexican goals is 4

 

[NewlyRetired]

Serious question - I know he's at the very tail-end of his career and plays right back, but would you rather have Frankie Hejduk on the roster than Bornstein? I think I might.

No. He rarely if ever plays in MLS anymore. Way too old.

 

[Genedoc]

Serious question - I know he's at the very tail-end of his career and plays right back, but would you rather have Frankie Hejduk on the roster than Bornstein? I think I might.

I don't know anything about these players, but from what I've seen/heard from you guys, I think I'd rather have you out there than Bornstein.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Bob had one other choice in back but it was likely worse than the one he used. He could have subbed in Ream for Cher and pushed Boca out wide again.

Or he could have put Spector in. Probably not that much better of an option.

I would not have minded that with thinking that Lichai stays on the left so it is not as disruptive.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Serious question - I know he's at the very tail-end of his career and plays right back, but would you rather have Frankie Hejduk on the roster than Bornstein? I think I might.

No. He rarely if ever plays in MLS anymore. Way too old.

You're probably right. I always had a soft spot for the guy, though.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

The Chandler backout finally might come back to haunt us in this tournament

 

[NutterButter]

This feels like a 4-2, 5-2 type game. Bradley needs to figure out whether to give up offensively and try and get this to OT. I am not sure what tactically he can do here.

For most of that half, it felt like we gave up offensively. We've had very few opportunities compared with Mexico which seems to have a solid one every few minutes.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Anyone know how good the two Mexican defenders were that got subbed out?

Salcido is an excellent player. Marquez was one of the best Mexican players ever but he is not in his prime any more.

 

[NewlyRetired]

This feels like a 4-2, 5-2 type game. Bradley needs to figure out whether to give up offensively and try and get this to OT. I am not sure what tactically he can do here.

For most of that half, it felt like we gave up offensively. We've had very few opportunities compared with Mexico which seems to have a solid one every few minutes.

It is playing exactly as we predicted in terms of opportunities for anyone who has watched the tournament. With the US being at less than full strength and Mexico peaking, most of us thought this would be a blow itStill feels like it might be.

 

[Steve Tasker]

 

[NewlyRetired]

Thoughts on US subs in the 2nd half?

Honestly there is not a lot of choices. We are so far down the depth chart already. I would guess Agudelo in for whom ever appears the most tired at 60 and then the last sub will be situational depending on how the game is going.

 

[NewlyRetired]

We all hated him that game too let's hope for something similar

 

[ffldrew]

jesus dos santos like a ghost

 

[NutterButter]

Howard seems to be having a rough game

 

[Genedoc]

Thoughts on US subs in the 2nd half?

I'd love to see another Goalie in there for team USA. Not in place of Howard, in addition to him.