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Here's an interesting article on the consequences of the Basque only policy at Bilbao.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sid_lowe/11/23/jonas/index.html
Good read. This was something I didn't realize:
Only five black players have represented Spain at senior level: Donato, Senna, Catanha, Engonga and Thiago.
It's such a small number, but that's pretty reflective of what I experienced while I lived there. Immigration is a fairly new phenomenon for the Spanish. Give this another 15 years, and I think you'll see quite a bit more diversity of skin tones for Spanish footballers. I anticipate there will be an uptick in the number of high quality players that hold multiple passports (mostly Latin America, but also Morocco and some Eastern European nations). We'll see how many choose to represent the country of their birth and how many choose to represent the country of their parents' birth.Prior to this the biggest "color barrier" was the integration of Gitano players into the Spanish team.
 
The ending of this United game got crazy...
Looks like it from the feed. Impressive that Bilbao got a win in Old Trafford. They are having a good year.
Marcelo Bielsa has been associated with the Chelsea manager job in the past week - maybe a 2nd or 3rd tier rumor, but still fun to think about.
I love Bielsa, but it's hard to think of a weirder match for an older team like Chelsea. If they're willing to turn the team over, why axe AVB?
 
The ending of this United game got crazy...
Looks like it from the feed. Impressive that Bilbao got a win in Old Trafford. They are having a good year.
Marcelo Bielsa has been associated with the Chelsea manager job in the past week - maybe a 2nd or 3rd tier rumor, but still fun to think about.
I love Bielsa, but it's hard to think of a weirder match for an older team like Chelsea. If they're willing to turn the team over, why axe AVB?
I don't expect it to happen, but I think Bielsa has the advantage over AVB of being 20 years older with more bona fides and great media skills. AVB was almost the same age as the old guard players he was trying to motivate (or oust) and was totally unprepared to deal with the English football press.
 
The ending of this United game got crazy...
Looks like it from the feed. Impressive that Bilbao got a win in Old Trafford. They are having a good year.
Marcelo Bielsa has been associated with the Chelsea manager job in the past week - maybe a 2nd or 3rd tier rumor, but still fun to think about.
I love Bielsa, but it's hard to think of a weirder match for an older team like Chelsea. If they're willing to turn the team over, why axe AVB?
I don't expect it to happen, but I think Bielsa has the advantage over AVB of being 20 years older with more bona fides and great media skills. AVB was almost the same age as the old guard players he was trying to motivate (or oust) and was totally unprepared to deal with the English football press.
I agree with that. And he was apparently aloof whereas Mourinho is supposed to be a genius with players of all nationalities (except for that weird semi-Spanish insurrection at Real). If Lamps and Terry are on the team, you're going to have to defer to them. And Chelsea seemed to play best with Lampard even though it defied my expectations of how I thought AVB wanted them to play. The guy is a goal scoring machine as a MF. Never seen anyone better at arriving late in the box and tucking away the chance.I will miss the slim cut European suits.
 
Not sure how I feel about this, but the league seems to be taking over the near impossible task of trying to get a stadium site in NY for team 20.Don Garber speaking

“It’s premature to talk about any specific site, but the league is taking the lead on developing a stadium. It’s the first time we’ve ever done that as part of the expansion process. There have been nine teams over last 10 years to build stadiums, but this is the first one where the league is driving most the important aspects. Architecture, consultants and environmental all work for the league. We will put together a project and then we hope to be able to deliver to a potential owner. We’ve been working with the mayor’s office and it has been a great resource for us, helping to steer us to sites that can be developed and where there is enough community support and to achieve success. There’s still work to do.”
 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.

 
MLS owners sold a 25% share of SUM for an estimated $150 million to an investment firm called Providence Equity Partners LLC. No word yet on how money will be used but might just get distributed to remove some of the start up losses the league had.

 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
 
This is a fun piece about an authors ongoing search for the original, and now lost, World Cup Trophy

My quest for football’s Holy GrailBy Simon KuperWhere is the Jules Rimet trophy? Football’s original world cup vanished in Rio de Janeiro in 1983 – or perhaps in Europe in the 1950s. Either way, the gilded statuette is missing. Almost everyone thinks it was melted down into gold bars in a Brazilian foundry. However, that’s probably wrong. I’ve hunted football’s version of The Maltese Falcon for years, and I believe it’s still around. Recent work – including the documentary Rimet Trophy, by Lorenzo Garzella, Filippo Macelloni and César Meneghetti – elucidates the mystery.When the Frenchman Jules Rimet created the World Cup, he needed a trophy. In 1929, the Parisian sculptor Abel Lafleur made him a 30cm statuette of Nike, Greek goddess of victory. Crucially, the trophy wasn’t solid gold: merely silver coated with gold. Yet nobody could resist it.According to the documentary, the first people to try to steal football’s greatest prize were the Nazis. During the war they searched the Roman apartment of the Italian football official Ottorino Barassi, but couldn’t find the Rimet. They missed the shoebox hidden under Barassi’s bed.After West Germany became world champions in 1954, the Rimet went to Frankfurt. Jim Lynch and Joe Coyle, now writing a book about the Rimet, believe that the trophy disappeared in 1957 or 1958 while under German control. The photojournalist Coyle noticed in photographs that the 1954 trophy didn’t look like the one awarded in Sweden in 1958. The 1958 trophy was 5cm taller and had a markedly different base. Lynch and Coyle established that the cup that reached Sweden from Germany in 1958 was a replica. That would mean the Rimet had then already disappeared.But some kind of cup, calling itself the Rimet, arrived in London in 1966 for the World Cup in England. Famously, that March it was stolen from an exhibition. A week later, a dog named Pickles found the cup under a bush in south London.That is well-known. Less well-known is that after Pickles’ discovery, England’s Football Association secretly asked the jeweller George Bird to make a replica. Bird produced a gilded bronze trophy that looked just like the cup Pickles had found, writes Martin Atherton in his book The Theft of the Jules Rimet Trophy. Now there were two Rimets, or perhaps three if the original had indeed disappeared in the 1950s.Bird’s tale has a curious postscript. After he died in 1995, his family auctioned his replica. “Copy of the Jules Rimet Cup”, said the description of lot 80 at a Sotheby’s auction in 1997. At auction, Bird’s cheap bronze fake went for an astonishing £254,500. The winning bidder was anonymous.“It was an absurd price,” a friendly auctioneer told me. “Unless you know it’s the real world cup. And the winning bidder knew.” The winning bidder presumably believed that in 1970, the English had performed a secret switch: kept the real Rimet and sent Bird’s replica to Mexico, host of the next tournament.That anonymous bidder turned out to be Fifa, the global football authority. In 2006, I asked Fifa if it had thought Bird’s trophy was the real Rimet. I didn’t expect a reply. But Fifa’s media office emailed back: “Yes, Fifa took the decision to buy this trophy as it was thought to be the original one.”However, Fifa was wrong. The trophy it bought turned out to be merely Bird’s replica. England had sent the real Rimet – or at least what it thought was the Rimet – to Mexico.When Brazil won its third World Cup in Mexico in 1970, it was allowed to keep the Rimet – or perhaps a 1950s German-made replica. In 1983, the trophy was stolen from Brazil’s football federation in Rio. Nobody has seen the thing since. Brazilian police found the thieves but not the trophy – the investigators said it had been melted down into gold bars. Having told this story, the police felt free to drop the case.But the story has holes. For a start, the Rimet couldn’t be melted into gold bars because it wasn’t solid gold. Most likely, the German replica wasn’t all gold either. Moreover, the police had no evidence the trophy had been melted down. Indeed, the convicted Argentine gold dealer Juan Carlos Hernández testified that he didn’t melt it down. An analysis of his foundry found traces of gold of a different quality from the trophy.At my request, the journalist Andrew Downie put these points to Pedro Berwanger, the Brazilian federal police officer who led the original investigation. Berwanger admitted: “Nobody really knows what happened to the cup. I wouldn’t sign a document swearing it was melted down.” He told Downie the trophy would be worth most intact: “It’d almost be like having the Holy Grail, owning this trophy.” Berwanger feels the investigation remains incomplete.Most likely, the Rimet is now in some crooked collector’s backroom, either in Brazil or Europe. I will keep looking.
 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
That is a good distinction you made (lowest attendance vs weakest fan base).San Jose has the lowest attendance, but that is due to the stadium issue more than the fan base as they pretty much sell out every game. Once the new stadium is built they should be fine.Other than that it is probably a race between Chivas USA and the Revs for weakest fan base. The Revs once were the shining beacon for MLS in the early days of attendance but so much of that has eroded from mismanagement from the front office. Whether it can ever be resurrected with out new ownership is hard to guess but being very close to it up here I have my doubts.I still think Chivas is going to move and be rebranded some day. The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
 
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You're right on a lot of counts there NR. I agree that the Chivas USA thing is a pretty failed experiment at this point. They're likely to move.

 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
 
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Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
It's a strange thing, for sure, and we're all assuming they'll get the money back put into this from future owners. Definitely shows Garber/MLS's commitment to NYC having team #20. If I were a rival city for that spot, gotta say I'd be pissed and would be looking at jumping in later rather than spending precious resources on it now. FWIW- just saw Garber interview in ESPN and he mentions going past 20 teams eventually, due to the size and time-zone issues of the US vs Europe. No reason an NFL-type of league with two viable divisions could work... maybe.In terms of NYC spots- RBNY's stadium is definitely striking distance for those of us in the city, but to have a stadium on the MTA subways (instead of switching to PATH, for RBNY) would be huge. And would be a game-changer for whatever neighborhood is it's home. I'd still love to see it in the West Side rail-yards that the Jets/Olympics proposed- that would be optimum. Near Shea in Queens makes sense too, I guess- although there's no real immediate neighborhood there that I know of. Or somewhere in Brooklyn- especially if it means kicking out a bunch of doofus hipsters in the process. I'm still surprised the Nets' Russian owner hasn't been interested- although I'm not sure if there's room near the new Nets' arena. Randall's Island has been mentioned, but getting there is a #####. I wonder if sharing Columbia U's Football stadium is viable?
 
They could easily build a soccer specific stadium at Manhattan College if they allow the college team to play there as well

Foundation is already there and it is right on the 1 line

Not sure they would want to allow anyone else to play there though

 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
cool. Are you a season ticket holder?
 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
cool. Are you a season ticket holder?
No. I just buy tickets to a few games a year.
 
Looks like South Korea got a decent draw for the final round of qualifying. Interesting to note that Qatar has made it into the final round of qualifying.

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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- Australia will continue its fierce rivalry with Japan after the regional powers were drawn together in the final round of Asian qualifying for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

Australia and Japan were drawn in Group B during a ceremony Friday at the Asian Football Confederation's headquarters in Malaysia, along with fellow World Cup veteran Iraq, Jordan and Oman.

Group A comprises 2002 World Cup semifinalist South Korea, Iran, Lebanon, Uzbekistan and 2022 host Qatar.

The top two teams from each group will advance to the World Cup finals, while the two third-place teams will have a playoff for a further spot.

The home-and-away matches are scheduled from June 3, 2012 to June 18, 2013.

 
Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
cool. Are you a season ticket holder?
No. I just buy tickets to a few games a year.
Ahh ok. I just assumed because it was the Revs, it would not really be a destination type game for most. Is the atmosphere inside of LiveStrong as good as it appears on TV?
 
You're right on a lot of counts there NR. I agree that the Chivas USA thing is a pretty failed experiment at this point. They're likely to move.
Bring them to San Diego! We packed the local college stadium for them last month for their game against the Tijuana Xolos. Over 5,000 people. Think the exhibition game I went to last year was over 6k (forgot about the game this year). That's pretty good for an exhibition, isn't it?
 
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Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
cool. Are you a season ticket holder?
No. I just buy tickets to a few games a year.
Ahh ok. I just assumed because it was the Revs, it would not really be a destination type game for most. Is the atmosphere inside of LiveStrong as good as it appears on TV?
First home game of the year, St. Paddy's day, I figured what the hell. Plus a couple of buddies will be here from out of town and I want to show them the stadium. The atmosphere is great. The stadium really is absolutely gorgeous. It's a wonderful place to spend a few hours. I don't think it can compare to a place like Seattle in terms of the level of fervor but it's still great.
 
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Building a soccer specific stadium in one of the 5 (well, let's leave off S.I.) boroughs would be awesome. I think MLS could accelerate out of the corner they've turned in the last 2 years.
A well run NY team in NY with a stadium would give some added juice to the growth the league has experienced, I do agree in that. But am I wrong in thinking that building in NY is going to be a monumental task? I just worry so many resources and time will be thrown at the problem and other deserving cities will be ignored.
Yes it is a monumental task, but I'm fully convinced that MLS sees #20 NYC as the top priority, and rightfully so. They *should* be expending resources trying to make it happen.Who has the lowest attendance (or better yet weakest fan base) in the MLS? Chivas USA?
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
cool. Are you a season ticket holder?
No. I just buy tickets to a few games a year.
Ahh ok. I just assumed because it was the Revs, it would not really be a destination type game for most. Is the atmosphere inside of LiveStrong as good as it appears on TV?
First home game of the year, St. Paddy's day, I figured what the hell. Plus a couple of buddies will be here from out of town and I want to show them the stadium. The atmosphere is great. The stadium really is absolutely gorgeous. It's a wonderful place to spend a few hours. I don't think it can compare to a place like Seattle in terms of the level of fervor but it's still great.
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Great article on Grantland yesterday about the (recently defunct) Indios de Ciudad Juarez. Basically an excerpt from an upcoming book about the team and what it meant to that city.
I read this and it was very interesting. Here is a linkhttp://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7658418/an-excerpt-robert-andrew-powell-book-love-not-cowards-soccer-ciudad-juarez
 
I had no idea that Chievo and Bradley were playing Inter this afternoon on FSC. It's halftime now, 0-0. Anyone get a chance to watch? Hopefully it's being replayed later.

 
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
This was my thought as well as an outside observer. I still think the name sounds ridiculous, but the rebranding effort as a whole appears to have been a great success.
 
The good news for the teams that are struggling is that no one could have had a worse fan base than KC. The new ownership in KC transformed every thing about the organization and now it is one of the best supported teams in the league. The rebranding (which we all hated), has been an enormous success on and off the field (which shows how little we know :( ).
I think everyone just hated the name. I still do. I don't see the need to alter our language just because we're talking about a sport that is popular overseas. I hate it when people call the field a pitch and the jerseys a kit. To be honest you could have called the team just about anything and as long as they're playing in Livestrong Park it would have been a success. I don't think things would be looking any different here if they had kept the Wizards moniker. BTW I'll be at the game next weekend when your Revs come to town.
This was my thought as well as an outside observer. I still think the name sounds ridiculous, but the rebranding effort as a whole appears to have been a great success.
I agree. I think many of us fixated too much on the name which is only a small portion of a rebranding effort.

Moe is likely 100% right in that the organization made so many good moves off the field, that they would have been successful no matter what they named the team (with in reason of course).

 
Holy crap. I just saw the headline at MLSNet and it references the 17th year of the league.

I could be mixing and matching memories from a few early games, but I think the first game I went to was during the remnants of a hurricane and DC won 1-0 in the wind and mist over the Carlos Valderrama-led Mutiny.

Seems completely impossible that it was so long ago.

 
Anyone have a link to Liverpool - Sunderland streaming (that I can view on an iPad)?Muchas gracias.
sorry to be late to this.in the future, do this1) download the app called Iswifter (it is a simple browser that allows you to watch Flash based content)2) Use the following site for the streams: www.firstrowsports.eu This site tends to have many feeds, with differing levels of qualityIf you don't download iswifter or something similar, you are going to have a near impossible task of finding a feed that will run on the safari or atomic browser on the ipad.
 
Holy crap. I just saw the headline at MLSNet and it references the 17th year of the league. I could be mixing and matching memories from a few early games, but I think the first game I went to was during the remnants of a hurricane and DC won 1-0 in the wind and mist over the Carlos Valderrama-led Mutiny.Seems completely impossible that it was so long ago.
Time does go by too fast sometimes.A good bit of trivia this year is that the old NASL lasted exactly 17 years before folding. Safe to say MLS will go a bit longer than that. And considering where they were one decade ago when MLS was near folding, it is almost a miracle.
 
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Time does go by too fast sometimes.A good bit of trivia this year is that the old NASL lasted exactly 17 years before folding. Safe to say MLS will go a bit longer than that. And considering where they were one decade ago when MLS was near folding, it is almost a miracle.
Glad it's still around. Going to take my 6-year old stepson to his first game this Spring. Looking forward to that.I looked up the game and double holy crap -- I had it right. 7/12/96 and Hurricane Bertha was up the east coast. DCU 1-0 Mutiny on an Etcheverry goal.
 
Time does go by too fast sometimes.A good bit of trivia this year is that the old NASL lasted exactly 17 years before folding. Safe to say MLS will go a bit longer than that. And considering where they were one decade ago when MLS was near folding, it is almost a miracle.
Glad it's still around. Going to take my 6-year old stepson to his first game this Spring. Looking forward to that.I looked up the game and double holy crap -- I had it right. 7/12/96 and Hurricane Bertha was up the east coast. DCU 1-0 Mutiny on an Etcheverry goal.
DC has a nice team this year. A little questionable defensively but are in the upper 4 teams in the league with their midfielders and forwards (Kitchen, Pontius, Najar, Boskovich, DeRo and Salahi should provide a good amount of goals through out the season)
 
For those interested, I'm reading that MLS Direct Kick is free this weekend on InDemand

I guess we'll see at 6:00. Im interested to see what Le Toux does with Vancouver today

 
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For those interested, I'm reading that MLS Direct Kick is free this weekend on InDemand

I guess we'll see at 6:00. Im interested to see what Le Toux does with Vancouver today
Me too. There are a bunch of games I want to watch this weekend but may not have time. I am hopeful to see some of these, depending on conflicts

Montreal at Vancouver (should be a fun start to a renew an old rivalry)

LA at RSL (will showcase two of the leagues best teams)

NY at Dallas (will be NBC's first soccer game)

KC at DC (plenty of talent on both teams)

Philly at Portland (ESPN2 national game on Monday night and you can't beat the atmosphere in Portland, makes any game more fun to watch)

 
For those interested, I'm reading that MLS Direct Kick is free this weekend on InDemand

I guess we'll see at 6:00. Im interested to see what Le Toux does with Vancouver today
Me too. There are a bunch of games I want to watch this weekend but may not have time. I am hopeful to see some of these, depending on conflicts

Montreal at Vancouver (should be a fun start to a renew an old rivalry)

LA at RSL (will showcase two of the leagues best teams)

NY at Dallas (will be NBC's first soccer game)

KC at DC (plenty of talent on both teams)

Philly at Portland (ESPN2 national game on Monday night and you can't beat the atmosphere in Portland, makes any game more fun to watch)
I wonder just how important MLS has been/will be to Canada's National program, and growing the sport there in general.
 
Anyone have a link to Liverpool - Sunderland streaming (that I can view on an iPad)?Muchas gracias.
sorry to be late to this.in the future, do this1) download the app called Iswifter (it is a simple browser that allows you to watch Flash based content)2) Use the following site for the streams: www.firstrowsports.eu This site tends to have many feeds, with differing levels of qualityIf you don't download iswifter or something similar, you are going to have a near impossible task of finding a feed that will run on the safari or atomic browser on the ipad.
:hifive:Thank you!
 
I had no idea that Chievo and Bradley were playing Inter this afternoon on FSC. It's halftime now, 0-0. Anyone get a chance to watch? Hopefully it's being replayed later.
It will be replayed at 8:00pm tonight.
So as a 20 year Inter fan, I was surprised to see upon watching most of the replay, that I was routing for Bradley and Chievo. My US homerism trumps all allegiances apparently.And I loved seeing Bradley go toe-to-toe with Maicon most of the game and holding his own- I think MB was playing on the Left.

 
Ream gets the start again for Bolton and assisted on the first goal today with a cross from the edge of the box.
What did you think of Ream today?I watched part of the game- thought he looked decent going forward, and positioned himself well defensively (is he playing as a MF sweeper/holding MF?), but is still too easily beat off the run, in the air and off the dribble. Great assist though- the goal-scorer was wide open, but Ream did a good job finding him. over a couple of other players.
 
For those interested, I'm reading that MLS Direct Kick is free this weekend on InDemand

I guess we'll see at 6:00. Im interested to see what Le Toux does with Vancouver today
Me too. There are a bunch of games I want to watch this weekend but may not have time. I am hopeful to see some of these, depending on conflicts

Montreal at Vancouver (should be a fun start to a renew an old rivalry)

LA at RSL (will showcase two of the leagues best teams)

NY at Dallas (will be NBC's first soccer game)

KC at DC (plenty of talent on both teams)

Philly at Portland (ESPN2 national game on Monday night and you can't beat the atmosphere in Portland, makes any game more fun to watch)
Dammit.I'm a fan of the league obviously, and I still wasn't aware this was opening weekend.

 
For those interested, I'm reading that MLS Direct Kick is free this weekend on InDemand

I guess we'll see at 6:00. Im interested to see what Le Toux does with Vancouver today
Me too. There are a bunch of games I want to watch this weekend but may not have time. I am hopeful to see some of these, depending on conflicts

Montreal at Vancouver (should be a fun start to a renew an old rivalry)

LA at RSL (will showcase two of the leagues best teams)

NY at Dallas (will be NBC's first soccer game)

KC at DC (plenty of talent on both teams)

Philly at Portland (ESPN2 national game on Monday night and you can't beat the atmosphere in Portland, makes any game more fun to watch)
I wonder just how important MLS has been/will be to Canada's National program, and growing the sport there in general.
That's a great question. Whenever I see them play, Canada seems like a team essentially equivalent to the US- a couple of good players capble of changing the game and a bunch of guys who fill the gaps (obviously at a simplistic level). But Canada just seems like they're lacking depth in comparison and have more holes in the role-player bunch. I'd have to assume the influx of MLS teams will help that in the same way it's helped the US.
 
First things first for Canada - they need to start becoming a semi-regular hex participant again. I dont think theyve been there since the 1998 WC cycle but I could be mistaken.

The good news is I think this year is the best chance Canada has had for a long time to make it back to the hex. They're grouped with Honduras, Cuba and Panama this summer. I think they can finish top 2 in that group.

 

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